As I said, she is nice, but really narrow-minded. I don't think you can deny that. The million dollar question that cannot be put into practice is if she had a choice between the clan and Naruto, who would she pick? Granted these kind of questions can be applied to anyone, but the biggest difference is reaction time. If she answered "Naruto" immediately, then it shows.
Yeah, I can.
If you want to go negative traits, KnS's self-absorbed is more accurate. Narro-minded implies she's not open to anything else. No evidence of that. At best, we have her seeing the universe through her i.e. self-absorbed. Then again, I don't think he's trying to portray that and the kind of thing I'd expect from a satellite character anyway.
What is the actual reaction time? Not sure how you gauge that in 573.
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Funny enough, I never saw Hinata as selfish until that chapter was shown. I thought for sure during the NaruSaku hug scene that she was more accepting of Naruto loving someone else because she cared about his happiness. I thought "Oh, good for you Hinata. I know you love hm, but it's good to let them be happy if you truly love them," but the way she came off with that whole inner monologue just came off as her being extremely selfish. Ever other person talks about themselves with the others. Hinata just talks about herself.
For most people, it's the confession that made them believe that.
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It is a mistake Kishi has made to her character and thus the blame of why her character is selfish and mono-tonal. We keep saying she is this background character that fills this spot, but she has acted on the plot enough to be deemed more than just a background character. She at least caused an event in the manga to occur if only for one moment in time which can be said more than what Ten-Ten can say. I mean, if she is such a background character then why does she pop up in places where Naruto talks with her directly? He has yet to even talk to Ten-Ten on that kind of personal level.
And yes, Kishi could have easily changed something in Hinata in several scenes to show her grow even just a little, but he doesn't. He kept her roughly the same, if only just more outspoken and confident.
I don't know, we keep saying she is "not important," but Kishi gives her these scenes like she is.
I don't see it as a mistake, I see it as fans reading things that simply aren't there. I don't think that Kishimoto picked that reason in order to show what selfish person she is. I think he had her picked because her universe as a character is completely defined by her feelings for Naruto. She has no meaning outside of that.
Without that connection she is just another member of the Rookie 9. Someone defined her as a satellite character in another thread and I think that's spot on. So it makes sense that her stated reason for fighting is contained within that orbit, especially when her other scenes in war all focus around Naruto. Fighting for you family or your village are fine and dandy, but still generic reasons almost everyone and their grandma in that army can draw from. Nothing unique or special and if she didn't have such a defined existence than I would expect that. But she does such an existence and I expect from you'll see seem similar things in the future.
I don't think in that chapter with that setting and mood that he's secretly taking a dump all over her while praising everyone else. It does not fit. People complain about who certain elements of the fandom reach to try and create ways to hate Sakura, well, I see this as the Hinata equivalent.
My gripe, again, about the scene is it is something that is supposed to look like development, and it is to a degree (at least she sees the problem), but it's much less than advertised. Hinata has spent her entire existence since the chunnin exams resolving to do things (whether with herself or with Naruto), but she doesn't do. Just talks.
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Honestly, I don't know what he is intending, but the way he keeps conveying her comes off as such. Intended or not, it is as is it. Kishi also intended for Sakura to be well liked and truthful, yet fans call her a b*tch and a liar. At least with Sakura he tries to show something difference, but Hinata....it is like a broken record with the same message "Naruto-kun."
No, fans keep reading that into her actions.
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We talking about Hinata or Sakura here? If you're talking about Hinata then yeah she has shown no progress since part one. I had hoping she would have been more accepting during the NaruSaku hug scene, but I guess not. If you're talking about Sakura, then I disagree.
Hinata. I'm talking about her declaration in 573. It confirmed a long standing belief I had about her character.
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.either cuz they hate her or they just want huge fights to define any character
I cannot speak for anyone else, but neither is the case for me.
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Agreed. As much as I wish I saw her more, I wish she fought more and I wish she fought alongside Naruto more...I am glad her character is not defined by her interactions with Naruto. Fighting or otherwise.
That's pretty much it for me.
When Itachi reveled that he thought his mistake (well one of them) was going it alone, well, I want it to be more substance than form and having her fight along side with him during the final fight fits both that and her original declaration to fight with him. It's not about seeing her kick ass or anything like that. There is no indication that her abilities have changed or evolved, so I'm not expecting to see anything new on that front. Sasuke is not just Naruto's problem and I don't want him to fight like it is.
Naruto is fighting Tobi along side three others and I don't think it's too much to ask that he do the same with her, especially since Sasuke is her teammate as well. She failed to stop him just as Naruto did. She pledged to help him bring her back as well. In fact, she tried to when they first found him, why not now as well?
I don't care much about any of the other fights (she has no personal connection to Tobi for example) or if she fights one on one with anyone else (who would it be?). Just that particular fight. Having her duke it out with Kabuto, only to be sidelined during the final confrontation with Sasuke wouldn't make me any happier.
Like I said before, I don't see it as matching up the declarations that are coming out people's mouths.
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I don't know, we keep saying she is "not important," but Kishi gives her these scenes like she is.
EDIT: I said limited importance. Not "not important."