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Opinion of Sakura

  1. I love her! She's my favorite! (47 votes [43.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 43.52%

  2. I really like her, she's one of my favorites (47 votes [43.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 43.52%

  3. I like her, but she's not a favorite (10 votes [9.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.26%

  4. She's okay, but can be annoying/useless sometimes (4 votes [3.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.70%

  5. I don't care about Sakura (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. I hate Sakura (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 12:44 AM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Aug 15 2012, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Umm, well I used to hate Sakura, then I liked her. Pretty much as simple as that and practically for the same reasons everyone pointed out already.

I wouldn't mind seeing Sakura fight again. The way she punched the Zetsu clone was...brilliant. I loved it. I was laughing and in awe from that one panel. "That's the Sakura I know and love" I thought. "Not the one weeping over Sasuke." Sakura has definitely come a long way since part 1 and she has only gotten better since. Some rough spots, but what character doesn't have them?

I would love to see her fight again and would enjoy seeing her fight practically anybody as long as it was good, but one thing I want to really see is her beliefs and emotions put on the line for one final moment. Every time Sakura made a choice, she always had to choose the choice that was available, not what she wanted. So I want to see that one moment; THE moment where Sakura finally says "This is where I stand. This is who I am and nothing will change that."

Maybe we already have that moment already, but I would like just one more moment where she stands up for her believes and choices on freewill, not because of circumstance. I am not sure if I am coming of clearly. If you all don't understand, I am sorry.



If I may say, I actually liked what she said for this reason. (I'm sorry mods, but I am going to somewhat bash Hinata here. I can't say what I want to without putting down Hinata's character a little bit. So forgive me. It will have a point, trust me)

It has shown how far Sakura has gotten to understanding herself. In Part 1, she was selfish and we all admit that. It was all about her; her looks, her "crush", her reputation, her life. She has grown up since then and it shows. She doesn't see herself as better or sees herself out as something special anymore. Yeah she is special, but she doesn't think that this makes her better, just different. Previously, she wanted to stand out and for the popular kids to notice her, yet learned that the not so popular kids were the most who saw her the most.

Compare and contrast this to what Hinata has said where she said that she is going to be with Naruto and hold his hand and such. While she is nice and her character reflects that, she has also gotten more selfish. I am glad she got confidence, but she looks like she is only doing this for Naruto and that's it.

Sakura on the other hand shows that she knows it is not just about her. It is not just about what she wants and how she feels. She loves Naruto, but she understands that she has to think about others. "not just me..." She has her own agenda, but knows that it is not about her. It is about Naruto. It is about the others. She is putting his needs before her own and she wants to support him no matter what decision he makes. That alone speaks bounds. That's why I like that scene.


THIS! Thank you James I have said this dozens of times the only reason Hinata is fighting in the war its only for Naruto. She's not fighting to protect her village, her friends, her clan or even the shinobi world it's all about Naruto (if that's not selfish I don't know what is).

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 02:10 AM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Aug 15 2012, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
THIS! Thank you James I have said this dozens of times the only reason Hinata is fighting in the war its only for Naruto. She's not fighting to protect her village, her friends, her clan or even the shinobi world it's all about Naruto (if that's not selfish I don't know what is).


One of the things that bothered me about the way the Hinata thread went is people endlessly mentioned that the sheer paucity of evidence that showed that Hinata was nice outside of Naruto, therefore, she we cannot say she is nice, yet, because there is no evidene she spazzing of her family of village, therefore, she doesn't give a crap about either. People were treating the absence of evidence two different ways without explaining why.

The problem I had with that is it completely takes Hinata's role and tries to extrapolate from it a negative trait (selfishnes) while complaining that Hinata fans do just the opposite (assume she is nice to everyone because she is nice to Naruto).

This ignores her role within the series. As has been repeated numerous times, Hinata is a side character. By her very nature she is of limited importance. In her case, she matters only for her feelings for Naruto. Without them, she is TenTen or Shino. Of course, she is fighting for Naruto over those things because that's her tie to the story at this point. This is especially the case when looking at it from the standpoint of pairings. If Kishimoto wants to drag that out for the rest of the series then it makes sense that is what she fights for.

I don't think he's intending to convey the message that she's the awful inherently selfish human being who doesn't give a rip about her family or village. Those things are generic to a character who has a limited and defined existence. To read that into her statement is read more into that what is actually there.

I personally hate the scene because of the enormous length of time it took for her to figure out that she needed to stand on her own two feet. Naruto was a crutch. She's not doing it mind you, just resolving to do it. Nearly 500 chapters after her introduction, for all the progress she is supposed to have made, she really hasn't made any. All talk, no action.

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Oh and one more!
-Was it only me, who actually hated when Sakura said, "not only me, but we will all fight through this together!" ? I know I might be selfish but she was always sidelined with the rest of the villagers or rookie 9 even though she's the main character and member of team 7. Why, when she finally might get a fight, she is going to fight along the side side characters of rookie 9? My only hope is that Kabuto is still alive, and she will get the slug mode and fight him. And Kishi better not slack off her development, using the Naruto movie as excuse!


Yeah, that's my primary complaint about how he has handled Sakura. He did showing this in the beginning of Part 2 and lost it after that. Now that Naruto and Sasuke have recieved so many power-up she's not even in the same league as them. In Part 1, it seemed like she was moving from playing ninja to being ninja, and that was a defining moment when she had moved from one to the other. In Part 2, it's just kinda been....I don't know...just there. She does stuff, it's important stuff too, but I don't know if I'd call it fighting together. It's a support to Naruto's lead and as of now she has openly deferred to him.

I think Kabuto's done.

I want her to fight Sasuke along with Naruto.

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 04:03 AM

QUOTE (Nate River @ Aug 15 2012, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One of the things that bothered me about the way the Hinata thread went is people endlessly mentioned that the sheer paucity of evidence that showed that Hinata was nice outside of Naruto, therefore, she we cannot say she is nice, yet, because there is no evidene she spazzing of her family of village, therefore, she doesn't give a crap about either. People were treating the absence of evidence two different ways without explaining why.


As I said, she is nice, but really narrow-minded. I don't think you can deny that. The million dollar question that cannot be put into practice is if she had a choice between the clan and Naruto, who would she pick? Granted these kind of questions can be applied to anyone, but the biggest difference is reaction time. If she answered "Naruto" immediately, then it shows.

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The problem I had with that is it completely takes Hinata's role and tries to extrapolate from it a negative trait (selfishnes) while complaining that Hinata fans do just the opposite (assume she is nice to everyone because she is nice to Naruto).

This ignores her role within the series. As has been repeated numerous times, Hinata is a side character. By her very nature she is of limited importance. In her case, she matters only for her feelings for Naruto. Without them, she is TenTen or Shino. Of course, she is fighting for Naruto over those things because that's her tie to the story at this point. This is especially the case when looking at it from the standpoint of pairings. If Kishimoto wants to drag that out for the rest of the series then it makes sense that is what she fights for.


Funny enough, I never saw Hinata as selfish until that chapter was shown. I thought for sure during the NaruSaku hug scene that she was more accepting of Naruto loving someone else because she cared about his happiness. I thought "Oh, good for you Hinata. I know you love hm, but it's good to let them be happy if you truly love them," but the way she came off with that whole inner monologue just came off as her being extremely selfish. Ever other person talks about themselves with the others. Hinata just talks about herself.

It is a mistake Kishi has made to her character and thus the blame of why her character is selfish and mono-tonal. We keep saying she is this background character that fills this spot, but she has acted on the plot enough to be deemed more than just a background character. She at least caused an event in the manga to occur if only for one moment in time which can be said more than what Ten-Ten can say. I mean, if she is such a background character then why does she pop up in places where Naruto talks with her directly? He has yet to even talk to Ten-Ten on that kind of personal level.

And yes, Kishi could have easily changed something in Hinata in several scenes to show her grow even just a little, but he doesn't. He kept her roughly the same, if only just more outspoken and confident.

I don't know, we keep saying she is "not important," but Kishi gives her these scenes like she is.

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I don't think he's intending to convey the message that she's the awful inherently selfish human being who doesn't give a rip about her family or village. Those things are generic to a character who has a limited and defined existence. To read that into her statement is read more into that what is actually there.


Honestly, I don't know what he is intending, but the way he keeps conveying her comes off as such. Intended or not, it is as is it. Kishi also intended for Sakura to be well liked and truthful, yet fans call her a b*tch and a liar. At least with Sakura he tries to show something difference, but Hinata....it is like a broken record with the same message "Naruto-kun."

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I personally hate the scene because of the enormous length of time it took for her to figure out that she needed to stand on her own two feet. Naruto was a crutch. She's not doing it mind you, just resolving to do it. Nearly 500 chapters after her introduction, for all the progress she is supposed to have made, she really hasn't made any. All talk, no action.


We talking about Hinata or Sakura here? If you're talking about Hinata then yeah she has shown no progress since part one. I had hoping she would have been more accepting during the NaruSaku hug scene, but I guess not. If you're talking about Sakura, then I disagree.

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 07:05 AM

I like how we keep getting back to the Sasori fight. I think that's mainly because it's basically her only important fight so far in the series. Nothing other fights she's had ever changed the ninja world, or even just the village, at all.

Sakura deserved at least 2 more fights like the Sasori fight.

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 09:37 AM

I don't think Sakura is defined by the Sasori fight, the problem is people seem to want to define her that way...

She has accomplished many things in the manga if you examine what responsibility she has in Konoha (or has been given), Kishimoto has guided her character down a very subtle path which I feel most people have ignored.

...either cuz they hate her or they just want huge fights to define any character

just my opinion though.....

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 10:15 AM

again, when you have high hopes for a character only for them to be thrown into the support role, that barely does anything exciting, then what do you expect?

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 10:29 AM

I expect I am reading it differently than you I see Sakura as exactly the role I place her in, with grit, determination, brains, and beauty wub.gif the perfect companion/life partner for Naruto.

I won't go into all the minutia because I start work in about ten or so minutes, for example though

during Pain's invasion of Konoha where she rescues the little girl and kills the summon with one punch then heals the girl from her injury, that is the type of Heroine I admire. There was no fanfare, no glory seeking, she just saw what was needed and tried her best to accomplish her goal...

just as she always does...

that is why she is the heroine of the manga and why I admire her in a nutshell


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Posted 16 August 2012 - 12:13 PM

QUOTE (Verilance @ Aug 16 2012, 04:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think Sakura is defined by the Sasori fight, the problem is people seem to want to define her that way...

She has accomplished many things in the manga if you examine what responsibility she has in Konoha (or has been given), Kishimoto has guided her character down a very subtle path which I feel most people have ignored.

...either cuz they hate her or they just want huge fights to define any character
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I expect I am reading it differently than you I see Sakura as exactly the role I place her in, with grit, determination, brains, and beauty wub.gif the perfect companion/life partner for Naruto.

I won't go into all the minutia because I start work in about ten or so minutes, for example though

during Pain's invasion of Konoha where she rescues the little girl and kills the summon with one punch then heals the girl from her injury, that is the type of Heroine I admire. There was no fanfare, no glory seeking, she just saw what was needed and tried her best to accomplish her goal...

just as she always does...

that is why she is the heroine of the manga and why I admire her in a nutshell

I think I'm going to quote this whenever someone tells me that Sakura is useless or boring. Perfect. Thank you.

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 12:35 PM

QUOTE (Verilance @ Aug 16 2012, 06:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I expect I am reading it differently than you I see Sakura as exactly the role I place her in, with grit, determination, brains, and beauty wub.gif the perfect companion/life partner for Naruto.

I won't go into all the minutia because I start work in about ten or so minutes, for example though

during Pain's invasion of Konoha where she rescues the little girl and kills the summon with one punch then heals the girl from her injury, that is the type of Heroine I admire. There was no fanfare, no glory seeking, she just saw what was needed and tried her best to accomplish her goal...

just as she always does...

that is why she is the heroine of the manga and why I admire her in a nutshell


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Posted 16 August 2012 - 01:06 PM

QUOTE (Verilance @ Aug 16 2012, 06:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I expect I am reading it differently than you I see Sakura as exactly the role I place her in, with grit, determination, brains, and beauty wub.gif the perfect companion/life partner for Naruto.

I won't go into all the minutia because I start work in about ten or so minutes, for example though

during Pain's invasion of Konoha where she rescues the little girl and kills the summon with one punch then heals the girl from her injury, that is the type of Heroine I admire. There was no fanfare, no glory seeking, she just saw what was needed and tried her best to accomplish her goal...

just as she always does...

that is why she is the heroine of the manga and why I admire her in a nutshell

Agreed. As much as I wish I saw her more, I wish she fought more and I wish she fought alongside Naruto more...I am glad her character is not defined by her interactions with Naruto. Fighting or otherwise.

Hinata's character is only defined by her interactions with him. Her one moment of true character development was in the chunin exams, but that has been long eclipsed by her persistent hero-worship of Naruto.

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 02:28 PM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Aug 15 2012, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As I said, she is nice, but really narrow-minded. I don't think you can deny that. The million dollar question that cannot be put into practice is if she had a choice between the clan and Naruto, who would she pick? Granted these kind of questions can be applied to anyone, but the biggest difference is reaction time. If she answered "Naruto" immediately, then it shows.


Yeah, I can.

If you want to go negative traits, KnS's self-absorbed is more accurate. Narro-minded implies she's not open to anything else. No evidence of that. At best, we have her seeing the universe through her i.e. self-absorbed. Then again, I don't think he's trying to portray that and the kind of thing I'd expect from a satellite character anyway.

What is the actual reaction time? Not sure how you gauge that in 573.

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Funny enough, I never saw Hinata as selfish until that chapter was shown. I thought for sure during the NaruSaku hug scene that she was more accepting of Naruto loving someone else because she cared about his happiness. I thought "Oh, good for you Hinata. I know you love hm, but it's good to let them be happy if you truly love them," but the way she came off with that whole inner monologue just came off as her being extremely selfish. Ever other person talks about themselves with the others. Hinata just talks about herself.


For most people, it's the confession that made them believe that.

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It is a mistake Kishi has made to her character and thus the blame of why her character is selfish and mono-tonal. We keep saying she is this background character that fills this spot, but she has acted on the plot enough to be deemed more than just a background character. She at least caused an event in the manga to occur if only for one moment in time which can be said more than what Ten-Ten can say. I mean, if she is such a background character then why does she pop up in places where Naruto talks with her directly? He has yet to even talk to Ten-Ten on that kind of personal level.

And yes, Kishi could have easily changed something in Hinata in several scenes to show her grow even just a little, but he doesn't. He kept her roughly the same, if only just more outspoken and confident.

I don't know, we keep saying she is "not important," but Kishi gives her these scenes like she is.


I don't see it as a mistake, I see it as fans reading things that simply aren't there. I don't think that Kishimoto picked that reason in order to show what selfish person she is. I think he had her picked because her universe as a character is completely defined by her feelings for Naruto. She has no meaning outside of that.

Without that connection she is just another member of the Rookie 9. Someone defined her as a satellite character in another thread and I think that's spot on. So it makes sense that her stated reason for fighting is contained within that orbit, especially when her other scenes in war all focus around Naruto. Fighting for you family or your village are fine and dandy, but still generic reasons almost everyone and their grandma in that army can draw from. Nothing unique or special and if she didn't have such a defined existence than I would expect that. But she does such an existence and I expect from you'll see seem similar things in the future.

I don't think in that chapter with that setting and mood that he's secretly taking a dump all over her while praising everyone else. It does not fit. People complain about who certain elements of the fandom reach to try and create ways to hate Sakura, well, I see this as the Hinata equivalent.

My gripe, again, about the scene is it is something that is supposed to look like development, and it is to a degree (at least she sees the problem), but it's much less than advertised. Hinata has spent her entire existence since the chunnin exams resolving to do things (whether with herself or with Naruto), but she doesn't do. Just talks.

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Honestly, I don't know what he is intending, but the way he keeps conveying her comes off as such. Intended or not, it is as is it. Kishi also intended for Sakura to be well liked and truthful, yet fans call her a b*tch and a liar. At least with Sakura he tries to show something difference, but Hinata....it is like a broken record with the same message "Naruto-kun."


No, fans keep reading that into her actions.

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We talking about Hinata or Sakura here? If you're talking about Hinata then yeah she has shown no progress since part one. I had hoping she would have been more accepting during the NaruSaku hug scene, but I guess not. If you're talking about Sakura, then I disagree.


Hinata. I'm talking about her declaration in 573. It confirmed a long standing belief I had about her character.

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.either cuz they hate her or they just want huge fights to define any character


I cannot speak for anyone else, but neither is the case for me.

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Agreed. As much as I wish I saw her more, I wish she fought more and I wish she fought alongside Naruto more...I am glad her character is not defined by her interactions with Naruto. Fighting or otherwise.


That's pretty much it for me.

When Itachi reveled that he thought his mistake (well one of them) was going it alone, well, I want it to be more substance than form and having her fight along side with him during the final fight fits both that and her original declaration to fight with him. It's not about seeing her kick ass or anything like that. There is no indication that her abilities have changed or evolved, so I'm not expecting to see anything new on that front. Sasuke is not just Naruto's problem and I don't want him to fight like it is.

Naruto is fighting Tobi along side three others and I don't think it's too much to ask that he do the same with her, especially since Sasuke is her teammate as well. She failed to stop him just as Naruto did. She pledged to help him bring her back as well. In fact, she tried to when they first found him, why not now as well?

I don't care much about any of the other fights (she has no personal connection to Tobi for example) or if she fights one on one with anyone else (who would it be?). Just that particular fight. Having her duke it out with Kabuto, only to be sidelined during the final confrontation with Sasuke wouldn't make me any happier.

Like I said before, I don't see it as matching up the declarations that are coming out people's mouths.

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I don't know, we keep saying she is "not important," but Kishi gives her these scenes like she is.


EDIT: I said limited importance. Not "not important."

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 02:30 PM

Well I guess I think differently then you guys. Kishi was hyping her up to be something genjutsu related, but then he completely throws that aside and gives her a support role. If that isn't disappointing I don't know what is.

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 03:20 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Aug 16 2012, 09:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well I guess I think differently then you guys. Kishi was hyping her up to be something genjutsu related, but then he completely throws that aside and gives her a support role. If that isn't disappointing I don't know what is.


No I completely agree with you Branden. I believe that is exactly what he did with her. Maybe he realized that she wasn't such a popular character in the beginning so he did not worry too much about following through with what he set up. Then part 2 came along and her popularity sky rocketed, but he's stuck in the other plots that he developed.

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 03:53 PM

QUOTE (Orenji @ Aug 16 2012, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No I completely agree with you Branden. I believe that is exactly what he did with her. Maybe he realized that she wasn't such a popular character in the beginning so he did not worry too much about following through with what he set up. Then part 2 came along and her popularity sky rocketed, but he's stuck in the other plots that he developed.

i don't think so. if kishi thought like this we would have been seeing her differently then she is now as a character and trust me she is popular, not in western areas that much but in other areas she 's popular especially in japan and supposing that he thought like this then part 2 came, he wouldn't negate her cause of the plots cause she's the heroine so he can't do that. he just focuses on naruto and his battles, i know it's kinda too much but he writes in his own style like every mangaka and there are things that they can't change when writing manga especially related to main characters.
who knows, the manga won't finish till 1 to 2 years so we may see sakura more, i'm sure of it.

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 05:26 PM

QUOTE (Orenji @ Aug 16 2012, 11:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No I completely agree with you Branden. I believe that is exactly what he did with her. Maybe he realized that she wasn't such a popular character in the beginning so he did not worry too much about following through with what he set up. Then part 2 came along and her popularity sky rocketed, but he's stuck in the other plots that he developed.

@branden and orenji: I don't know.... I don't see him as sidelining Sakura alone in Part 2. Kishimoto sidelined nearly all of them after the Pain arc. Except for Shikamaru, everyone else went to the bench.

I wish there was a more clear cut villain at this point. Or rather, a villain who's made his powers, his stakes and/or his motivations known. Things just seem a little scattered right now. Like Kabuto...big buildup, but then he is easily defeated (meaning no collateral damage except the loss of someone who was already dead), and left standing in a cave, apparently. Conveniently down but not out, so he can be brought back at a crucial time.

Back to Sakura, I think this ploy applies to her as well. Kishimoto would have laid out his story well in advance. Not the minor details, but the big plot: who's the hero, who's the bad guy, who's the love interest, how they get their powers, etc. Kishimoto would have laid out her powers and why she had them. We may not know why, but I'm sure he does.

Anyway, just as he's been steadily leaving openings for the bad guys to come back at a moment's notice and have it still be within the framework of their storyline, I think the same applies to Sakura.

Just because her genjutsu abilities haven't been seen in a long time doesn't mean they've been kicked to the curb. All the big villains — Tobi, Madara and Sasuke — wield a mean genjutsu. And there has been only one person expressly mentioned as being able to see through genjutsus, several times: that's right, the hero's best girl, Sakura.

I think it will come back around in its importance, and just like every other big development, readers will go back and say "Oh yeah! I forgot that was in there!" Also, checking for continuity is one of the most important jobs of an editor. So he's got people around him making sure that he picks up the earlier plot threads he's laid down.

I don't have any proof, but I don't think he's forgotten about her. I think her moment to shine will be part of wider "surpassing the previous generation" moment, when she (and probably the other rookies too) will have to rise to the occasion and fight in the place of Tsunade and the older generation.



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Posted 16 August 2012 - 05:47 PM

QUOTE (tricksie @ Aug 16 2012, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Back to Sakura, I think this ploy applies to her as well. Kishimoto would have laid out his story well in advance. Not the minor details, but the big plot: who's the hero, who's the bad guy, who's the love interest, how they get their powers, etc. Kishimoto would have laid out her powers and why she had them. We may not know why, but I'm sure he does.

Anyway, just as he's been steadily leaving openings for the bad guys to come back at a moment's notice and have it still be within the framework of their storyline, I think the same applies to Sakura.

Just because her genjutsu abilities haven't been seen in a long time doesn't mean they've been kicked to the curb. All the big villains — Tobi, Madara and Sasuke — wield a mean genjutsu. And there has been only one person expressly mentioned as being able to see through genjutsus, several times: that's right, the hero's best girl, Sakura.

I think it will come back around in its importance, and just like every other big development, readers will go back and say "Oh yeah! I forgot that was in there!" Also, checking for continuity is one of the most important jobs of an editor. So he's got people around him making sure that he picks up the earlier plot threads he's laid down.

I don't have any proof, but I don't think he's forgotten about her. I think her moment to shine will be part of wider "surpassing the previous generation" moment, when she (and probably the other rookies too) will have to rise to the occasion and fight in the place of Tsunade and the older generation.

I like the idea of all of this very very much =3

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 06:09 PM

QUOTE (tricksie @ Aug 16 2012, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just because her genjutsu abilities haven't been seen in a long time doesn't mean they've been kicked to the curb. All the big villains — Tobi, Madara and Sasuke — wield a mean genjutsu. And there has been only one person expressly mentioned as being able to see through genjutsus, several times: that's right, the hero's best girl, Sakura.

I think it will come back around in its importance, and just like every other big development, readers will go back and say "Oh yeah! I forgot that was in there!" Also, checking for continuity is one of the most important jobs of an editor. So he's got people around him making sure that he picks up the earlier plot threads he's laid down.


I'm not so sure. Genjustsu has been important...for the Uchiha. In part 1, we have some instances of prominence (Tayuya and Kin), but in Part 2, is there a prominent user that doesn't posses the Uchiha surname? And the more often than not its Tsukiyomi being used. Naruto used to be really vulnerable to that technique (more so than the other two), but with him becoming friends with Kyuubi, he no longer is. He can get out of it the same way Bee did. You add to that being able to detect Zetsu. While not being genjutsu, the principle still ought to apply especially with most of the users being squarely in the evil corner.

Naruto's vulnerability is not what it was. Not that she couldn't play a part in such a thing (Naruto still has to recognize he is in one, and he's pretty bad at that), I just don't share your confidence that it will happen.

As to surpassing Tsunade, I think she will just not sure where. It might be more along the lines of saving her friend (as compared to Dan, Orochimaru), but in terms of straight ability...where has Tsunade truly failed? I don't see an obvious place for surpassing her there. But then again, I think the theme is more about correcting or not making the mistakes of the past than it is straight ability. So, I think we may only see that if the two converge (i.e. she need to surpass Tsunade in terms of ability in order to save someone Tsunade cannot)


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Posted 16 August 2012 - 07:52 PM

QUOTE (Nate River @ Aug 16 2012, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As to surpassing Tsunade, I think she will just not sure where. It might be more along the lines of saving her friend (as compared to Dan, Orochimaru), but in terms of straight ability...where has Tsunade truly failed? I don't see an obvious place for surpassing her there. But then again, I think the theme is more about correcting or not making the mistakes of the past than it is straight ability. So, I think we may only see that if the two converge (i.e. she need to surpass Tsunade in terms of ability in order to save someone Tsunade cannot)

Not surpass as in overtake her in power. But surpass in that Sakura will become the "Tsunade" of her generation.

I don't think that surpassing theme is about power, instead it's about comparative importance in their spectrum of time. Minato was able to fight off the threats for a little while, taking down Tobi and buying the village some time until Naruto came of age to work well with the kyuubi and defend it. But Naruto will surpass Minato in that he will be the one who takes care of the threat and wipes out the source of the problems, the ninja lifestyle of hatred.

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 09:04 PM

I agree with Verilance that Sakura's accomplishments isn't just about how many battles she's been in or how many badass opponents she's taken down. It's about the little things. I think that Sakura will not only surpass Tsunade and become the greatest medical ninja of her generation, but I also strongly believe that there is still a role for Sakura to play.

Like tricksie mentioned, her genjutsu ability is a great example, but I also think it will happen because of the general theme that surrounds her character. A big part of her character arc is that she want's to be someone who can help Naruto and Sasuke instead of just sitting on the sidelines. I guess you could say that that goal was destroyed in the kage summit arc, but if that's the case then I'm honestly a little disappointed. To me, doing so would make her into a somewhat tragic character and I would hate for that to happen.

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 09:45 PM

i honestly think that sakura in the future chapters will play an important role, kishi can't deny her. the manga won't finish till at least 1 year.




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