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[K9ofChaos]

The country names on the map seem out of place. I hope that it's just a mistranslation.


Not to sure about the whole "unified" headband thing. I guess I just like it better when they have the headbands of there respective villagers. The shinobi uniforms are okay but I too think that characters look better with their own clothes on that show off their personality and traits.


I'm pretty sure that this war isn't going to be a one-battle-war and would feature a series of battles like any other war in history (with a few exceptions of corse). Kishi said this series will keep going on and I think that this war will go on until the end of the series unless there's a part 3 that takes place after the war. I won't give up until I can get this message across this forum.


Did somebody say that Sakura was wearing a mini-skirt?

Edited by K9ofChaos, 03 November 2010 - 09:34 PM.

[Lid]

I'm looking forward to Naruto & company knocking Kabuto and the Akatsuki around for the next couple chapters.

[jim1982]

The country names on the map seem out of place.


I hope that it's just a mistranslation.

Mist country seamed to move compared to where it was on the map in chapter nine. and whats up with the whole "rock" and "stone" countries. I thought iwa(rock) was in earth country not stone.

[K9ofChaos]

Mist country seamed to move compared to where it was on the map in chapter nine. and whats up with the whole "rock" and "stone" countries. I thought iwa(rock) was in earth country not stone.

The Land of Water is were the Hidden Mist is located and I'm not sure if they're referring to the countries names or villages names but I don't think Kishi would retcon something like this on purpose unless it's a mistake on his part or the translators part.

[jason voorhees]

Mist country seamed to move compared to where it was on the map in chapter nine. and whats up with the whole "rock" and "stone" countries. I thought iwa(rock) was in earth country not stone.

i have a feeling naruto is not going to be entering the war till late when all seems lost. The yellow flash or so they will think will save there butts.

[Miss Soupy]

Actually, it is quite possible. What Minato sealed in Naruto was none other than a part of his soul. When Minato's job was done, his soul went to the afterworld. And so did Kushina. So, I'm thinking Kabuto is saving them and Jiraiya for Naruto, specifically. I'm thinking if this does happen, Sakura will be the one to go up against Kushina. Although I'm not sure about the other two.

Wasn't Minato's soul taken by the shinigami? He is stuck in the shinigami fighting half of the Kyuubi's chakra for all eternity.

[James S Cassidy]

Not those parts, no. The only two times that happened in DragonBall were in the 12th DBZ movie (Fusion Reborn, I believe) and DragonBallGT, neither of which are canon, and Kishimoto explicitly stated that in regards to DragonBall, he disliked everything after the Sayajin saga, the time in which those do take place.

Doesn't mean he didn't read them/watch them. Canon or not, I am sure he saw them at some point. Otherwise how can he not like it if he hasn't seen them?

Also, most of the villains brought back to life on those occasions were nothing but flies by the time the went to fight the Z fighters.

Yeah, like I said, the Ninjas like Zabuza and Haku will be nothing, but flies to the them. The only thing that might give them a chance is that fact that they are nearly indestructible. Emphasis on "nearly"

"He is Vigo, you are like the buzzing of flies to him."

And yeah, I'd imagine Kishimoto won't dwell too much on each and every ressurected fighter; as I said, we know what they can do already, and I'd imagine he'd show us just enough to give us the idea of what's going on. I could only imagine what a nightmare it would be for him to draw each and every little detail. As for deaths, Kishimoto has been spineless when it came to killing the Rookie 9 or most anyone under the age of 20(although, to be fair, almost no author in the shonen business ever kill off their core cast members, and when they do its temporary), so I doubt that will happen. However, what I do see is all the Kages dying; now THAT will impact the war in Madara's favor.

I once mentioned that sometimes some characters are still alive because they are meant to die at the end. This may apply to some of the character now. They could be casualties of war. It sort of like what happened at the end of Deathly Hollows where Fred got killed and Prof. Lupin.

The Kages is kind of obvious however you said Kishimoto might not want to kill his core cast. Gaara is part of his core cast and he is a Kage. So the assumption that all the Kages dying is overruled by your earlier statement.

However, I will like to add that some of the characters are not really core cast. Some barely had impact on the story at all. (No I am not talking abut Hinata. She actually did something. Ten-ten is not what I call a "core cast." She barely does anything, has even less lines than Hinata, and had made little to no impact to the story at all.

It would be foolish to not expect some casualties in this war and good chance this time they are not coming back.

Also, I doubt that the revived nin have any major strength boosters. Since, first of all, while tropes like large amounts of chakra and transformations have been used, it's almost never about physical strength. Characters like Naruto are still vulnerable to genjutsu, and the zombie nin are likely immune to Tsunade's and Sakura's medical ninjutsu, as they do after all defy the laws of human biology. Since they can't be killed, there's no need to give them a boost of any kind; if for any reason they're disadvantaged against other fighters, they will just regenerate until their opponent is exhausted.

Again like I said, the strength they were at when they died is probably the same strength they are at right now. Just with the added bonus of regeneration and being undead.

Many have said this already, we don't know what other techniques could counter act the Edo-tensei. Madara could just suck them all into oblivion if he wanted I guess.
So it's unknown what will happen.

As for what team Naruto will be on, I'd imagine the close/midrange fighters. If nothing else, I'd imagine he'd want to be with his teammates while going into battle, if only to protect them. Also, that turtle island thing just arrived at Kumo, and Naruto just said the "mission" was over, so one way or another, he's going to find out about the war VERY soon. Whether someone important actually tells him and assigns him to a group, or he finds them fighting is something to be determined. However, I don't see much point in protecting Naruto and Killer Bee from the Akatsuki anymore. They're ready to fight back, they're going to need every weapon they can get. Plus, with Yamato captured, Madara will know where to find them anyway. There's really no point in hiding them anymore.

Naruto is not really ready yet since he is just now trying to control the Nine-tails chakra. I know they are trying to protect them, but they are also their trump cards when Stuff Having Insidious Taste hits the fan.

[Davidos]

Wasn't Minato's soul taken by the shinigami? He is stuck in the shinigami fighting half of the Kyuubi's chakra for all eternity.

Yup you're right Miss Soupy same as Sarutobi so its unlikely that they can be made into zombies and Minato isn't probably the 6th coffin either which shocked Madara so much (which people are still saying it might be ><).
Unless Kabuto has found a way to get their souls back >_> but then in the panel where they show the previouses kages they should be there aswell.

I am wondering though since Naruto can now make the chakra claws/hands from the Kyuubi I am hoping it also means he can make the tails and use that in combat aswell!
Abit similar to Bee and his octopus legs.

Edited by Davidos, 03 November 2010 - 10:35 PM.

[Cloud]

The best thing was Dat cover! Naruto in between the Kunoichi like that, all he needs is his shades and arm around them especially dat Ino.

You're doing it wrong.



You forgot DAT FACE.

[tricksie]

Do corpses not rot in Naruto-land? Dan died like what 20-25 years ago?

I don't think Kabuto knew who Naruto's parents were, so he likely wouldn't reanimate them. But Jiraiyaa, Yahiko and Konan are suspiciously missing.

And who cares about the former jinchurriki! Unless they have some awesome powers in their own right, they're going to be just like any other nins without their beast. Gaara's sand control stayed on after the extraction, but it's only plot-hole-no-jutsu holding it up. It should have gone away with the bijuu since that was the source of that power.

Kabuto is definitely the more sinister baddie now. With his unlimited knowledge collected over years and years, the combination of his own powerful skills with Orochimaru's talents, plus an undefined goal, Kabuto is clearly the wild card. He's on his own side, and he's got a bag tricks with something to terrify everyone, from Madara to Sasuke to Tsunade, and on down the line.

Again, though, suspiciously absent in his corpse army is someone tailor-made for Naruto. You could argue Nagato, but eh... He spent several chapters trying to kill him anyway. So no big shakes there. Jiraiya would be the one I would choose as a horrific opponent. Or Kabuto may be operating on his knowledge of Naruto's love of his teammates to back him into a corner. Simply put it's the living that represent the bigger tug on his heartstrings than the dead. Either going after Sakura or Sasuke. Or both.

Also, Kabuto now has Yamamoto, rifling through his knowledge. He is the only one who mentioned Sakura's affection for Naruto early on, and witnessed her confession very recently. So Kabuto will have fresh knowledge with which to manipulate. Jus' sayin.'

Last thing, as far as Naruto joining up in a unit, I honestly don't think he'll go in one. Just as his skill is outside typical classification (it stopped at genin technically, although he's at kage/sage-level power now), and his weapons are based on his own strength (shurikens and kunai only back up his natural abilities), I think he will fight outside of a classified group. Perhaps fighting with a group, but not as an assigned member.

[tricksie]

First off, you don't need the actual corpse of the person who died to ressurect him. You just need to kill somebody, mix the corpse with Ash, and depending on what soul you want to summon, it will take the form of that person. Orochimaru summoned two Hokages using his own henchmen as vessels, and during the Tsunade arc, Kishi pretended to have Tsunade consider using Jiraiya and Naruto as sacrifices to see Dan and her brother again. So, Kabuto didn't do any grave-digging at all; he did a lot of SACRIFICING....

As for using the knowledge of Sakura's feelings/Naruto's feelings, I don't think that will come into play, and if it does, I think it would have more to do with "Hold his TEAMMATE hostage!", and that's if things are going badly for Kabuto and Madara; I can't imagine that it will so soon or so fast.

Remembered after I posted about Orochimaru's summoning the past hokages. Sacrifices, right. Totally forgot.

And I don't mean Team 7 knowledge in an awful, fanficy sense. But more like a something that would bring them full circle, to their team origins, before it branches off to Naruto/Sasuke bonds.

I guess what I mean is that you have two powerful opponents in Sasuke and Kabuto who have fairly deep, first-hand knowledge of Naruto and (to a lesser extent) Sakura. As usual, I'm hoping for more character development...and lowering my expectations all the time. (Hello? Year of Kakashi? Year of Sakura? Did I blink and miss it?) However for hostage taking, it already happened with Konan/Yahiko/Nagato, so I'm not really expecting it. Fingers crossed for something better!

[Codus N]

Yup you're right Miss Soupy same as Sarutobi so its unlikely that they can be made into zombies and Minato isn't probably the 6th coffin either which shocked Madara so much (which people are still saying it might be ><).
Unless Kabuto has found a way to get their souls back >_> but then in the panel where they show the previouses kages they should be there aswell.

I am wondering though since Naruto can now make the chakra claws/hands from the Kyuubi I am hoping it also means he can make the tails and use that in combat aswell!
Abit similar to Bee and his octopus legs.

*Sigh* like I've said, Minato only sealed a part of his soul in the Death God not the WHOLE of it. The other part went to Naruto and disappeared after his job was done, meaning his soul went to the afterlife. Remember that Kushina mentioned that she would be meeting Minato again before she disappeared. Which is clear as day that Minato's soul has definitely gone to the afterlife.

[jason voorhees]

Wasn't Minato's soul taken by the shinigami? He is stuck in the shinigami fighting half of the Kyuubi's chakra for all eternity.

half was inside naruto then or was that his chakura?

Edited by hypno toad, 04 November 2010 - 03:18 AM.

[Strangelove]

6 Rasengans, Naruto is the Sage of the Six Paths <3

[Codus N]

hat half was inside naruto then or was that his chakura?

Just to explain, It's Yin-Yang manipulation. Yin gives form to the fail-safe device in the seal, which takes the form of Minato himself. Yang gives life to the form of the fail-safe device which is Minato's soul himself. Chakra is essentially the same as one's soul.

[Dreamer]

You're doing it wrong.



You forgot DAT FACE.

Can't forget dat as well.

I'm real excited for the Edo-Tensei's though, especially the jinchuuriki, i mean what good are they without having acess to their bijuu power. Hopefully Naruto and Bee will take on the other jinchuuriki's by themselves. It would be cool if the other jin's also get a flashback and who knows maybe Naruto can free them from Kabuto's control with his RM life force power.

Edited by Dreamer, 04 November 2010 - 03:34 AM.

[Chii]

I'm pretty sure there were coffins missing for a reason. Big reveal for Naruto anyone? And you can see in a couple panels that some characters are cut off. I wouldn't be surprised if Jiraiya is gonna show up or something.

As for Minato and Kushina...it's hard to say. Kushina was pretty famous, so I don't see why she wouldn't be there especially since she's a previous jinchuuriki, but if Sandaime isn't there, it's safe to say Minato won't be either. BUT WHO KNOWS. I think some zombies are hiding.

But Sakura what's up with you? lmao

Why are you wearing a skirt when you're going to war? 8|

[soot-r]

Even when things are serious gai finds the time to make me laugh. I don't think Kabuto just selected character randomly, but has some psychological reasons.