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[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Well despite Sakura being his objective he was more of a Hokage, surpass Sasuke and acknowledgement.


Well the difference is that on part 1 Hinata was shy and did nothing for Naruto, her shyness was a problem for her she could not support Naruto she was there hiding behind a tree all the time even on when they searched for Sasuke she barely interacted and only stood behind a tree.
Databooks says that for her last development is to overcome the shy attitude, since 615 she wasnt to shy anymore to do nothing to Naruto, i did not see 615 as Hinata trying to force her love into Naruto, she didnt make a romantic speech, look at her speech she didnt say "i love you Naruto" or something that implies it, she supported doing a common speech about friendship nothing more or less, she woudl force if she did "Naruto your nindo changed me, i was a loser...., i'm here at your side..." sort off like this then i would say that she's forcing.

Hinata character is about "shy".

Disagree. It was true Hinata was all about "shy" but she's not like that anymore. Still quiet and meek but she gained some more confidence in 615 to stand up to her crush. Honestly, I do. 573's line: "This time I will hold your hand and walk with you!" was what I interpreted as her trying to be more upfront over her feelings and actually try to be with him. Though Hinata said nothing about her own personal feelings for him in 615, she still caressed his cheek during that entire speech. That was her not so subtly expressing her feelings for him. Someone who only saw Naruto as a friend wouldn't do that. So yes, I do think that supports Hinata forcing her feelings.

Hinata has enough dignity and maturity to realize a speech about her feelings when her cousin just died is completely disrespectful and unneccessary. She does not have enough dignity, on the other hand, to stop herself from fangirling over a hand-holding.


@Don-Kun: Personally, I don't think it's Kishi being terrible at writing romance. It's just that Hinata's character development is centered around acknowledgement and her love for Naruto, not exactly getting to know him and be with him. Hinata is so madly in love with Naruto because he heavily affected her life indirectly and made her want to change herself. Ironically, hero-worship love not the genuine "I love the person he is on the inside" type of love.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 09 February 2013 - 01:10 AM.

[MangaReader]

@Don-Kun: Personally, I don't think it's Kishi being terrible at writing romance. It's just that Hinata's character development is centered around acknowledgement and her love for Naruto, not exactly getting to know him and be with him. Hinata is so madly in love with Naruto because he heavily affected her life indirectly and made her want to change herself. Ironically, hero-worship love not the genuine "I love the person he is on the inside" type of love.

I thought of this myself, but I guess stealing is alright to the Hinata fans (after all, her nindo is Naruto's exactly down to the letter). So she's far from perfect as they make her out to be.

[Slextrem]

Tonight I realized that Eowyn is the Hinata of The Lord of the Rings.

... --Click here to view--

The next time you decide to watch The Two Towers, try adding "-kun" every time Eowyn says, "Lord Aragorn!"
You'll see what I mean.

[neoshadow]

Tonight I realized that Eowyn is the Hinata of The Lord of the Rings.

... --Click here to view--

The next time you decide to watch The Two Towers, try adding "-kun" every time Eowyn says, "Lord Aragorn!"
You'll see what I mean.

So if that's the case who is the Faramir of Naruto?
It has to be someone who shares similarities to Naruto as Faramir did to Aragorn so I'm going to say either Kiba or Gaara.

Edited by neoshadow, 09 February 2013 - 08:31 AM.

[StriderC]

I like eowyn wayyyyyy more than hinata for sure though. Lol she's badass in RoTK.

[narusaku4ver]

Disagree. It was true Hinata was all about "shy" but she's not like that anymore. Still quiet and meek but she gained some more confidence in 615 to stand up to her crush. Honestly, I do. 573's line: "This time I will hold your hand and walk with you!" was what I interpreted as her trying to be more upfront over her feelings and actually try to be with him. Though Hinata said nothing about her own personal feelings for him in 615, she still caressed his cheek during that entire speech. That was her not so subtly expressing her feelings for him. Someone who only saw Naruto as a friend wouldn't do that. So yes, I do think that supports Hinata forcing her feelings.

Hinata has enough dignity and maturity to realize a speech about her feelings when her cousin just died is completely disrespectful and unneccessary. She does not have enough dignity, on the other hand, to stop herself from fangirling over a hand-holding.

No it's not you sum up everything about her dont being shy to help Naruto, about the last part why it would be disrepectful and unnecessary? her whole speech was unnecessary, that "healing" on the shoulder was unnecessary since Naruto already throw two rasenshurikens with that dislodged arm, if she did a romantic speech or doing a speech about friendship the outcome would be the same.
But no she did the friendship speech, she ws willing to die for Naruto but Neji cut it off saying that everyone is there willing to die for him, making Naruto see that Hinata wasnt special.

About the last bolded
This is a joke right? Lee, a lot of chapters even Sakura was wavering because of Neji's death and Hinata didnt felt anything, Naruto should realize that by himself the whole 615 and that speech was OOC.
Anyone could be Neji's cousin there minus Hinata.

Edited by narusaku4ver, 09 February 2013 - 11:14 AM.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

No it's not you sum up everything about her dont being shy to help Naruto, about the last part why it would be disrepectful and unnecessary? her whole speech was unnecessary, that "healing" on the shoulder was unnecessary since Naruto already throw two rasenshurikens with that dislodged arm, if she did a romantic speech or doing a speech about friendship the outcome would be the same.
But no she did the friendship speech, she ws willing to die for Naruto but Neji cut it off saying that everyone is there willing to die for him, making Naruto see that Hinata wasnt special.

About the last bolded
This is a joke right? Lee, a lot of chapters even Sakura was wavering because of Neji's death and Hinata didnt felt anything, Naruto should realize that by himself the whole 615 and that speech was OOC.
Anyone could be Neji's cousin there minus Hinata.

The speech was a good moment for her, I'm not criticizing that. I'm just saying holding is cheek like that wasn't needed like the speech was (since the friendship speech was needed since Kishi forced Naruto to be OOC so Hinata could have a moment). That's why I said it was a romantic gesture and could qualifiy as forcing her feelings on him. Oh I agree with you, that fact that Neji included everyone ended the possible NH moment for sure.

Hinata felt something, she did cry when she found out Neji died. Harder than Naruto, I will add. However, he was having a breakdown and she wasn't so she recovered before him for some reason despite Neji being her cousin. The logic, huh? Couldn't agree more but Hinata's character is so underdeveloped she had to put everyone OOC of character to actually get somewhere.

[Slextrem]

I like eowyn wayyyyyy more than hinata for sure though. Lol she's badass in RoTK.

I like her much better in Return of the King than I do in The Two Towers. She definitely has a stronger resolve than Hinata in both movies, but the way she acts around Aragorn is just... ugh.

So if that's the case who is the Faramir of Naruto?
It has to be someone who shares similarities to Naruto as Faramir did to Aragorn so I'm going to say either Kiba or Gaara.

I don't really think it matters. The author (or director? I don't know if the Faramir/Eowyn hint was in the book or just added to the movie...) was nice and included them together at the very end, but that doesn't mean that Kishimoto will be as mindful about Hinata. She is just a side character, after all. I'm not sure why so many people think that she needs to end up with someone at the end.

Edited by Slextrem, 09 February 2013 - 04:09 PM.

[MangaReader]

I don't really think it matters. The author (or director? I don't know if the Faramir/Eowyn hint was in the book or just added to the movie...) was nice and included them together at the very end, but that doesn't mean that Kishimoto will be as mindful about Hinata. She is just a side character, after all. I'm not sure why so many people think that she needs to end up with someone at the end.

Because from what I can tell... people relate more to Hinata then Naruto when it comes to dating (even if their guys). Seriously, that is an actually response I got quite a few times

[Tsubaki]

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[sushi.]

*Bringing some things to discuss*

guys, what do you think about this?!

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This is the first time someone has kidded about Hinata to Naruto? The series is on its edge, and this is the first time. XD If we go waaaay back in part 1, you get the first time someone kidded about Sakura to Naruto. Konohamaru was teasing Naruto about his "girlfriend" Sakura. And how many times have Sai talked about NS? He ships them so hard, lol I bet he would paint them quite frequently in the future..(in all secrecy of course )

He knew that little comment could hurt Hinata? If he's that observant of emotions, he would never have told Ino to stop crying.

To be honest, I wouldn't like if Kiba's words were even meant for Sakura. "You always act tough around ----, huh?"
Naruto acts tough around everyone. He should let himself be free with emotions when around the girl he loves(that is to some degree exactly what he does around Sakura) I want him to let himself breathe. Now - I did not take Kiba's words seriously, it was just a joke in my eyes. But if it was meant to be, this is my take on it.

Edited by sushi., 10 February 2013 - 02:24 AM.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

*Bringing some things to discuss*

guys, what do you think about this?!

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That moment when you realize that Konohamaru teased Naruto about being Sakura being his girlfriend and then again later when Gamakichi was implying she was also his girlfriend when Naruto was so desperate to save her from Gaara. Does this mean NS got a moment? Honestly, I take those NS examples and the NH one with a grain of salt. I don't see this big deal we should make over it when seriously, they're exactly the same. Back in Part 1, Sakura had no romantic feelings for Naruto at the time of those remarks and for the NH one, Naruto still has no feelings for her like that. It's obvious.

I think what really sold how insignificant it was was how Naruto reacted to it. Normally, if statements like that are implying romance and it had some truth to it, Naruto would either get embarrassed or tell the person to shut up. He's done that a lot when it came to his feelings for Sakura. Examples are when Sai asked if Naruto loved Sakura and he blushed and was all uncomfortable initally. The 6th movie also shows this from spoilers, when Kushina teased Naruto about trying to impress the "hero" of the village (Sakura) and he also got embarrassed and told her to shut up.

Lol, kinda reminds me of this exchange in the 3rd movie:
Sai: "You know, I read in a book that women become much stronger to help the man she loves--"
Sakura: "Shut up, Sai!!

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 10 February 2013 - 02:40 AM.

[kirabook]

Ah, I had completely forgotten that Kiba said that. I didn't even know what he meant until later (probably due to strange translation I think)

I get teased about being in a relationship all the time, or I used to back in high school. (My friends swore up and down that a teacher and I had a thing. o_O) So joking about that stuff isn't really... strong? Even back in part 1, I don't think Konohamaru and Gamakichi joking about Sakura being his girlfriend meant very much, although it was cute sometimes.

[MangaReader]

*Bringing some things to discuss*

guys, what do you think about this?!

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Oh the depths that people will go...

[luffyq1]

Normally, if statements like that are implying romance and it had some truth to it, Naruto would either get embarrassed or tell the person to shut up. He's done that a lot when it came to his feelings for Sakura.

But wait, why would Naruto react to Kiba's comment when he is in the middle of battle? I'm sure he didn't pay that any attention because he was in the middle of battle, just like he didn't pay any attention to Gamakichi's comment in 135. That's the way I see it.



But everything else you said I agree with

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

But wait, why would Naruto react to Kiba's comment when he is in the middle of battle? I'm sure he didn't pay that any attention because he was in the middle of battle, just like he didn't pay any attention to Gamakichi's comment in 135. That's the way I see it.



But everything else you said I agree with

There's still time for a reaction. Everyone was arriving and saying something while the big villains were just standing and watching (Me: "SHOULD'NT YOU BE ATTACKING???"). It could've been brief but it would give the NH fans more to fangirl/fanboy over other than wishful thinking that this means Naruto likes Hinata now. That's what I'm saying. Naruto did react. He just said "Hey!" XD. Kishi could've put the shut up line or embarrassment if Naruto actually feels anything for her.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 10 February 2013 - 08:23 AM.

[redragon88]

This is the first time someone has kidded about Hinata to Naruto? The series is on its edge, and this is the first time. XD If we go waaaay back in part 1, you get the first time someone kidded about Sakura to Naruto. Konohamaru was teasing Naruto about his "girlfriend" Sakura. And how many times have Sai talked about NS? He ships them so hard, lol I bet he would paint them quite frequently in the future..(in all secrecy of course )

Like this?



That's such a Sai thing to do. I can only imagine if Naruto and Sakura entered his room afterwards.

[luffyq1]

There's still time for a reaction. Everyone was arriving and saying something while the big villains were just standing and watching (Me: "SHOULD'NT YOU BE ATTACKING???"). It could've been brief but it would give the NH fans more to fangirl/fanboy over other than wishful thinking that this means Naruto likes Hinata now. That's what I'm saying. Naruto did react. He just said "Hey!" XD. Kishi could've put the shut up line or embarrassment if Naruto actually feels anything for her.

Good point. I just feel like if NS is going to be canon, he's really treading on thin ice when it comes to whether or not Naruto really likes Hinata. I mean, the scene where he says it's all in her eyes is really something imo. Like wtf? I didn't know he can tell how Hinata's feeling just by looking into her eyes, and Hinata could tell it was the real Naruto by looking into his eyes. I mean, really? That's way too much fanservice to something that's not going to be canon, right? I would like to know your take on that scene.

Edited by luffyq1, 10 February 2013 - 09:37 AM.

[PhenixElite]

Good point. I just feel like if NS is going to be canon, he's really treading on thin ice when it comes to whether or not Naruto really likes Hinata. I mean, the scene where he says it's all in her eyes is really something imo. Like wtf? I didn't know he can tell how Hinata's feeling just by looking into her eyes, and Hinata could tell it was the real Naruto by looking into his eyes. I mean, really? That's way too much fanservice to something that's not going to be canon, right? I would like to know your take on that scene.

"Your strong its all in your eyes". Means that shes strong because of her eyes (byakugan). Never seen anythin romance related or special in that scene. Also where do you get the part from that naruto knows how hinata feels by looking into her eyes? All he did was a pep talk nothing more, so whats so special on the scene?

@Tsubaki: If you post such a link, could you pls write if its NH or NS related cause i dont want to read that NH crap.

[luffyq1]

"Your strong its all in your eyes". Means that shes strong because of her eyes (byakugan).

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