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[六道仙人]

So I guess 619 explains to us that Rin meant the world to Obito LOL

Didn't we knew already that?

Edited by 六道仙人, 05 February 2013 - 11:47 PM.

[luffyq1]

Didn't we knew already that?

Something as illogical as that is still currently hard to swallow, no matter what BS revelation that came out of 619.

[Don-kun]

So I guess 619 explains to us that Rin meant the world to Obito LOL

Well he wanted to make out with one of her picture so I guess it was more of an obsession with her, the moment she die he felt that his world ended.
His 2nd best friend in some way sadly was the one who killed her after bowing to protect her with his life according to Obito's flashback.

@Chatte
I'm a man, but I strongly believe that the treatment Kishi gives his female character especially Sakura, has no name or any rational comprehension.
Kishi can make a speech about his male character, but the moment he says something about his female it's never a compliment it's mostly something not too positive or sometimes negatives. Sakura, was meant to be hated, It's creepy to make out with one of my own female creation, but it's fine to date Shikamaru.
Tell me when was the day Kishi ever stated something negative about Sasuke, or anyone of those SJ for that matter?
Everything is about Naruto saving Sasuke, but what about the way he treated his friends?

Edited by Don-kun, 05 February 2013 - 11:57 PM.

[Slextrem]

This story has become a lot cheesier than I thought it was going to be.

[StriderC]

This story has become a lot cheesier than I thought it was going to be.

Ugh, tell me about it. This whole love thing with the Uchiha is so blah to me right now honestly. LMAO I wonder what's next. If they find love after they've gained the sharingan and the MS, the super fantastic ultimate of all the ultimate techniques will be born... I'm calling it now... LMAO

I enjoyed the hokages though!!! It was pretty cool seeing how the first and second are as brothers.

Edited by StriderC, 06 February 2013 - 01:35 AM.

[Slextrem]

Ugh, tell me about it. This whole love thing with the Uchiha is so blah to me right now honestly. LMAO I wonder what's next. If they find love after they've gained the sharingan and the MS, the super fantastic ultimate of all the ultimate techniques will be born... I'm calling it now... LMAO

I enjoyed the hokages though!!! It was pretty cool seeing how the first and second are as brothers.

He'll unlock the powers of the sparkle stone and turn into the beautiful hero of love and justice, Sailor Sasuke. He'll right wrongs and vanquish all evil with the power of his pink heart moon rod stick of truth. In the name of Itachi, he will punish you.

... --Click here to view--

The First Hokage was my favorite part of the chapter.
I can't believe he caused Tsunade's gambling addiction.

Edited by Slextrem, 06 February 2013 - 01:48 AM.

[StriderC]

He'll unlock the powers of the sparkle stone and turn into the beautiful hero of love and justice, Sailor Sasuke. He'll right wrongs and vanquish all evil with the power of his pink heart moon rod stick of truth. In the name of Itachi, he will punish you.

... --Click here to view--

The First Hokage was my favorite part of the chapter.
I can't believe he caused Tsunade's gambling addiction.

I'm freaking dyingggggg!! Did you just do that? I bet you did! ROTF! Nice job!

And I actually enjoyed his personality. I kind of figured Tobi was gonna be a bit of a badass in attitude but I wasn't expecting he and his brother to be opposites.
Now I really hope he sees his granddaughter again. I actually don't even want her to die even more now... T_T

[luffyq1]

The power of love compels you!

[Slextrem]

I'm freaking dyingggggg!! Did you just do that? I bet you did! ROTF! Nice job!

And I actually enjoyed his personality. I kind of figured Tobi was gonna be a bit of a badass in attitude but I wasn't expecting he and his brother to be opposites.
Now I really hope he sees his granddaughter again. I actually don't even want her to die even more now... T_T

Nah, I just googled "Sailor Sasuke". I'm surprised there were so many hits for that search...

Neither did anyone, I think. LOL. The likelihood of Naruto becoming Hokage skyrocketed with this chapter. I would really like to see him and the First Hokage together in the same room. I feel like they would interact the same way that Naruto interacts with Killer Bee.
I had forgotten that she was on the brink of death. It's really sad... Poor Tsunade.

[MangaReader]

Someone once reminded me of this but I love how the fact that despite Kishi saying he sucks at writing romance, his whole plot got setup by it XD

Edited by MangaReader, 06 February 2013 - 02:43 AM.

[rocci]

Someone once reminded me of this but I love how the fact that despite Kishi saying he sucks at writing romance, his whole plot got setup by it XD

Yeah it's kind of ironic

[MangaReader]

Yeah it's kind of ironic

I always love how in story's the first 100% true bad guy always has some tragic story that sets up the hero's story, bringing it full circle.

[narulsaku]

@slextrem -- tsunade is going to make it. if not who ll be the next hokage?

[AzureWaters]

You should be already vomiting it happened with Minato and Kushina, and it's obvious that is going to happen again, chp.3 could be a foreshadowing.

Expecting originality on Naruto, i prefer to believe on Santa Claus.

No it didn't, in fact. The parallels with MinaKushi are almost entirely supported by fanon; while Kishi could have potentially used it for NaruSaku he hasn't at the present time. You can see similarities with the pairing, but it hasn't been referenced by the mangaka or actually helped NaruSaku with its development. ObiRin is the one that could be legitimate (and this is if Kishi actually uses that pairing for NS- if not it will end up in a similar manner to MK scenario)

Your second statement isn't a very good argument to use in favor of NS.

Edited by AzureWaters, 06 February 2013 - 05:50 AM.

[Slextrem]

@slextrem -- tsunade is going to make it. if not who ll be the next hokage?

Kakashi or Naruto.

I highly doubt that she's going to live. This is her third time facing an almost-death experience in Shippuden - it seems like it's her time to go. Think of her circumstances. She's literally split in half. The last time we saw her, she was barely clinging to life with only enough chakra to have Katsuyu save the other Kages and no other medics around to help her. (I'm not a believer in the "Sakura's been reverse summoned" theory.)

She could have Katsuyu heal her, but that would mean letting all of the other Kage die. As Konoha's number one medical ninja and respected Hokage, I don't believe Tsunade is going to let that happen. She's going to sacrifice herself to save everyone else. It's quite honorable. Sad, but honorable.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Kakashi or Naruto.

I highly doubt that she's going to live. This is her third time facing an almost-death experience in Shippuden - it seems like it's her time to go. Think of her circumstances. She's literally split in half. The last time we saw her, she was barely clinging to life with only enough chakra to have Katsuyu save the other Kages and no other medics around to help her. (I'm not a believer in the "Sakura's been reverse summoned" theory.)

She could have Katsuyu heal her, but that would mean letting all of the other Kage die. As Konoha's number one medical ninja and respected Hokage, I don't believe Tsunade is going to let that happen. She's going to sacrifice herself to save everyone else. It's quite honorable. Sad, but honorable.

This. I really hate the idea of Tsunade dying, she's one of my favorite characters. But I'm sad to say it's been a long time coming. Tsunade has had several near-deaths throughout the series, each of them shortening her life more and more. And I feel like she has already chosen: Could either live and save herself or use or remaining chakra to help the others. I can't see her coming out of this and if by some miracle she does, I can only say it would be highly unrealistic.

She's dying a death fitting for an Hokage so I guess I can accept that.

[Codus N]

I'm still leaning on Minato taking the role of Hokage again (after breaking out of ET). I know it goes against the theme, but honestly, there is no other candidate fit enough to take it. Kakashi is more fitting than Naruto, but he definitely won't take it as he has stated before. And he definitely won't now that he learned of what happened to Obito. Kakashi has probably realized now that he's essentially the cause of everything gone wrong these past years. I doubt Kakashi would feel deserving of the position.

Naruto, well..... I think he certainly has gained wisdom on par to Hashirama himself over the years. But he still doesn't have the maturity to balance it out. Sure, Hashirama is very much like Naruto, but he has the right level of maturity to balance his laid back personality. Look at Shikamaru. Still laid back as ever, but when the chips are down, his maturity surfaces.

Edited by Codus N, 06 February 2013 - 06:29 AM.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

I'm still leaning on Minato taking the role of Hokage again (after breaking out of ET). I know it goes against the theme, but honestly, there is no other candidate fit enough to take it. Kakashi is more fitting than Naruto, but he definitely won't take it as he has stated before. And he definitely won't now that he learned of what happened to Obito. Kakashi has probably realized now that he's essentially the cause of everything gone wrong these past years. I doubt Kakashi would feel deserving of the position.

Naruto, well..... I think he certainly has gained wisdom on par to Hashirama himself over the years. But he still doesn't have the maturity to balance it out. Sure, Hashirama is very much like Naruto, but he has the right level of maturity to balance his laid back personality. Look at Shikamaru. Still laid back as ever, but when the chips are down, his maturity surfaces.

I don't say Naruto's not ready to be Hokage because of his cheerfulness and playfulness. No matter what, Naruto will always be a kid at heart just like Hashirama. My problem is that I don't think he can deal with more deaths as an Hokage. He'd blame himself too badly. That's the emotional maturity he's lacking. He took a step towards improvement with 616 but I don't think he's ready for that responsibility.

[Slextrem]

This. I really hate the idea of Tsunade dying, she's one of my favorite characters. But I'm sad to say it's been a long time coming. Tsunade has had several near-deaths throughout the series, each of them shortening her life more and more. And I feel like she has already chosen: Could either live and save herself or use or remaining chakra to help the others. I can't see her coming out of this and if by some miracle she does, I can only say it would be highly unrealistic.

She's dying a death fitting for an Hokage so I guess I can accept that.

Bolded: Spot on! With everything that's going on right now, it would feel really bizarre for her to miraculously live through this. She was already given a miraculous second chance when Dan healed her, and they don't call them "miracles" for nothing.

This is also why I don't think Sakura is going to get reversed summoned to the area.
First off, she doesn't have a contract with the slugs. I suppose this could be the big unveiling of Sakura's contract with them, but I wouldn't like that at all. If she had a contract with them all along, then why hasn't she been using them?

Secondly, I doubt she'd be able to heal Tsunade's injuries on her own. Maybe if she had Shizune with her, but I don't know if she could handle mending Tsunade's body back together. At least not without completely depleting all of her chakra, which would leave her incapable of fighting.

Third, Tsunade must know that Sakura is on the battlefield right now. One would think that she would hesitate before having the girl reverse summoned away from the battle, where she could be saving the lives of various other shinobi.

Fourth, is it even possible for Tsunade to transfer a power to Sakura (like some have theorized)? Assuming it is, Sakura wouldn't be able to get the upgrade from Tsunade anyway, considering the woman has no more chakra left. Her remaining chakra is going towards saving the other Kage. Unless, she somehow doesn't require chakra to give Sakura an upgrade... That would be such a butt-pull.

Fifth, if Sakura somehow manages to get the long awaited, butt-pull upgrade from Tsunade, that still leaves her who knows how far away from the battlefield. There's no point in getting a new jutsu if she's too far away to use it on the enemy.

Sixth, even if she was able to get there on time, do we really think she would be in the right mental state to fight with Madara and Obito? Naruto completely broke down when Jiraiya died. Wouldn't Sakura do the same, (especially so since she would have seen her sensei completely split in half)?

Lastly, it would feel out of place. I know we're all wanting her to get some attention, but switching the focus in the middle of the battle with the Alliance (again) to Sakura, so that she can maybe but most likely not save Tsunade and possibly get a new jutsu that she probably won't get to use until much later in the series, would feel just as forced as the idea of Hinata performing a love-love combo attack with Naruto to stop the Jyuubi and save the day.

Of course I could be completely wrong. Kishimoto has proven that he's alright with going against logic. It's a possibility, but in my mind, it's not a very likely one. I feel that Sakura's development is going to occur somewhere during the battle, which also hammers the final nail in Tsunade's coffin - to me anyway.

Edited by Slextrem, 06 February 2013 - 06:54 AM.

[Codus N]

I don't say Naruto's not ready to be Hokage because of his cheerfulness and playfulness. No matter what, Naruto will always be a kid at heart just like Hashirama. My problem is that I don't think he can deal with more deaths as an Hokage. He'd blame himself too badly. That's the emotional maturity he's lacking. He took a step towards improvement with 616 but I don't think he's ready for that responsibility.

That's why I said he still doesn't have the maturity to back that wisdom up. With the wisdom he has gained, does he also have the maturity to handle the wisdom he's gained??