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[Dreamer]

We'll have one side saying one thing and one side saying another. Graven will go into three paragraphs, Ciarhda will be about two, Goku says Kishi's interview says otherwise and that NS is canon and nothing else, I'll make the face and scream "Cycle!!!" While seething about the interview everyone mentioned beforehand and go into a rant about it and then we'll wind up just back where we started about Hinata and Sakura where I again and everything is hunky dory. Add a couple of arguements for Sakura's feelings and Soupy being realistic and that's basically it.

Either I'm a pessimist or this is too repetive for me.

Sorry i couldn't help myself but that was . Yeah, one things for sure at least for me, is we should see a steady climb of NS development to come.

Edited by Uzumakikage, 30 July 2010 - 03:27 AM.

[crazyefra]

The silly thing is some people still believe that Kishi wants NH because he made an NH drawing the same one that is only an early sketch of what would later be known as Hinata

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[Insurrection]

We'll have one side saying one thing and one side saying another. Graven will go into three paragraphs, Ciarhda will be about two, Goku says Kishi's interview says otherwise and that NS is canon and nothing else, I'll make the face and scream "Cycle!!!" While seething about the interview everyone mentioned beforehand and go into a rant about it and then we'll wind up just back where we started about Hinata and Sakura where I again and everything is hunky dory. Add a couple of arguements for Sakura's feelings and Soupy being realistic and that's basically it.

Either I'm a pessimist or this is too repetive for me.

(Insurrection sticks with soupy

(i stick with Ciarhda


i agree with everything but the soupy park ill end it there


nother note: it seems the kish thinking hinata fans are loud park came true from his interview.
i trust the interview so far not much of anything has ben off if you think.

Not even then, one sided romantic feelings do not a pairing make. (Something Sakura even admits in her confession to Sasuke) While even early (first moments in chapter 5, just two chapters after her introduction) in part 1 Kishimoto was dropping hints that Sakura had subconscious romantic feelings for Naruto- actually more like semiconscious (re her thought in chapter 13- wondering why she was having romantic feelings for Naruto.)

And as for naruhina- nope, nothing mutual there either, Hinata hero worships Naruto, Naruto thought Hinata was a weird girl, and both he and Rock Lee were angered by Neiji's brutal beat down of Hinata, both made the same vow. Yet neither Rock Lee or Naruto have ever since thought of Hinata as anything other than a friend.

OH GOD!!! I'M RIGHT AGAIN!!!



Did anybody finish the Chibi Kushina Approves Seal yet? It ain't over til it's over with Kishi but it would be funny.

Edited by Insurrection, 30 July 2010 - 03:53 AM.

[Dreamer]

I've seen an Yondaime approves seal done at NF but not Kushina yet. I may make one tomorrow if i'm not too busy.

Edited by Uzumakikage, 30 July 2010 - 03:57 AM.

[Insurrection]

Alright you know what I'm going to start something new, don't know if we need to make a thread for this but I'm getting tired of seeing other website forums saying Kushina is not like Sakura and more like Hinata so we need to list EVERY DETAIL so this can be settled.

Even if chapter 39 of Naruto had him call Hinata a weirdo!!!

Edited by Insurrection, 30 July 2010 - 04:23 AM.

[Dreamer]

So now, we got possible pairings:

Sakura
Temari
Tsunade
Karui
Karin maybe
Ino maybe
Hinata-chapter confirmed it probably won't happen.

That's my two cents!

Now that you think about it Mei is like Kushina.

Edited by Uzumakikage, 30 July 2010 - 04:30 AM.

[Insurrection]

So now, we got possible pairings:

Sakura
Temari not sure
Tsunade loves Jiraiya
Karui
Karin maybe No idea
Ino maybe is stuck in another triangle
Hinata-chapter confirmed it probably won't happen. Hopefully.

*knockonwood*

Mei is more flirtatious.

Edited by Insurrection, 30 July 2010 - 04:33 AM.

[Zin]

Alright you know what I'm going to start something new, don't know if we need to make a thread for this but I'm getting tired of seeing other threads saying Kushina is not like Sakura and more like Hinata so we need to list EVERY DETAIL so this can be settled. Even if chapter 39 of Naruto had him call Hinata a weirdo!!!

Kushina is outgoing. Hinata is reserved. Kushina is prone to anger. Hinata is calm. Kushina talks alot. You almost have to hold a gun to Hinata's head to get her to talk...

Honestly though, it doesn't matter what you tell anti-NaruSaku fans. Even if you win the argument that Sakura is like Kushina they'll just resort to saying he hasn't listened to anything else his mother told him so why would he listen to that.

All it really takes to realize that NaruHina is ridiculous is the fact that Kishi uses foreshadowing in practically every single aspect of his manga. But out of all that foreshadowing none of it, absolutely none of it, has anything to do with Hinata. Seriously, I think the only reason Kishi even inserted her confession was to appease the fans...Anyone could've triggered Naruto's seal breaking, Kishi just used to opportunity for fan service...

[ciardha]

Temari not sure

Temari's more the sarcastic tsundere than the hot tempered tsundere.

[Grace]

I will bring up the opinions of this awesome person: Slextrem of Youtube has made three videos on the topic of comparing Sakura, Hinata, and Karin to Kushina.

Sakura Version
Hinata Version
Karin Version

(Note, she's not quite as....nice to anti-NS fandoms as we try to be, but I still think she gets her points across well. Although some of her info/counters are repeated in all three videos, I think it's because they were meant to be taken individually--the info is still valid all the same.)

Heads-up: She tends to favor Sakura

(Just went back and re-watched the Karin video; it seems a little lacking in comparison to the others, but that's due to Slextrem not thinking there's much of a similarity at all outside of hair-color.

......thoughts on that? =D )

Edited by Kushina, 30 July 2010 - 05:10 AM.

[pharix]

Mei is scary D:

[Toasty Warrior]

What Kushina said in 504 definitely has helped NaruSaku out a lot more, thank you Kushina!

[Insurrection]

I will bring up the opinions of this awesome person: Slextrem of Youtube has made three videos on the topic of comparing Sakura, Hinata, and Karin to Kushina.

Sakura Version
Hinata Version
Karin Version

(Note, she's not quite as....nice to anti-NS fandoms as we try to be, but I still think she gets her points across well. Although some of her info/counters are repeated in all three videos, I think it's because they were meant to be taken individually--the info is still valid all the same.)

Heads-up: She tends to favor Sakura

(Just went back and re-watched the Karin video; it seems a little lacking in comparison to the others, but that's due to Slextrem not thinking there's much of a similarity at all outside of hair-color.

......thoughts on that? =D )

She does make the best complete arguements I have heard so far. Gotta say that helps me out a lot. Slextrem did good.

She also points out when someone points out they're comparing Hinata to Kushina they switch her to Minato, makes no sense. So Kushina X2 FTW

By the way if anyone truly cares it's been 1 year 5 months and 4 days or 519 days since the Hinata confession or pairing development and our last believed development was via mangastream...12 hours ago. Why I took the time to say this? I don't know I just wanted to use the website where it tells you how long it's been since a certain date Did you guys know it's been 24160 days since D-Day?

Edited by Insurrection, 30 July 2010 - 05:52 AM.

[Grace]

She does make the best complete arguements I have heard so far. Gotta say that helps me out a lot. Slextrem did good.

She also points out when someone points out they're comparing Hinata to Kushina they switch her to Minato, makes no sense. So Kushina X2 FTW

By the way if anyone truly cares it's been 1 year 5 months and 4 days or 519 days since the Hinata confession or pairing development and our last believed development was via mangastream...12 hours ago. Why I took the time to say this? I don't know I just wanted to use the website where it tells you how long it's been since a certain date Did you guys know it's been 24160 days since D-Day?

Agreed, I like that her arguments are based on solid proof from the manga, and that she took the time to debunk/validate multiple claims and speculations rather than just one or two. (Though it's still really obvious that she's biased in our favor and against, er.....others.)

Pointing out how long it's been may actually be worth noting--while it can be argued that Kishimoto seems to like taking his time in tying plot threads together, this may just prove that Hinata really has had her finale whereas there's obviously more in store for NaruSaku.

Edited by Kushina, 30 July 2010 - 06:07 AM.

[Codus N]

I've seen an Yondaime approves seal done at NF but not Kushina yet. I may make one tomorrow if i'm not too busy.

Can I see it?? since a Minato approval seal is pretty much the same since he basically said: "Yeah, what your mother said."

[catsi563]

She does make the best complete arguements I have heard so far. Gotta say that helps me out a lot. Slextrem did good.

She also points out when someone points out they're comparing Hinata to Kushina they switch her to Minato, makes no sense. So Kushina X2 FTW

By the way if anyone truly cares it's been 1 year 5 months and 4 days or 519 days since the Hinata confession or pairing development and our last believed development was via mangastream...12 hours ago. Why I took the time to say this? I don't know I just wanted to use the website where it tells you how long it's been since a certain date Did you guys know it's been 24160 days since D-Day?

One thing i noted in her Hinata rant was something ive always taken issue with NaruHina fans. This was the notion that it was Naruto who was Directly responsible for making Hinata into the person she was. This does a great disservice to hinatas character in that it invalidates her entire growth and confession.

the entire point of Hinatas character is that she admired Naruto and used his determination as the inspiration to change and become stronger. To insinuate that Naruto was responsible for this change implies he built her up like a set of legos.

[Insurrection]

One thing i noted in her Hinata rant was something ive always taken issue with NaruHina fans. This was the notion that it was Naruto who was Directly responsible for making Hinata into the person she was. This does a great disservice to hinatas character in that it invalidates her entire growth and confession.

the entire point of Hinatas character is that she admired Naruto and used his determination as the inspiration to change and become stronger. To insinuate that Naruto was responsible for this change implies he built her up like a set of legos.

That's great, why are you quoting me though? Not a swipe it's just that this seems more directed to the vids then my remark.

[Grace]

One thing i noted in her Hinata rant was something ive always taken issue with NaruHina fans. This was the notion that it was Naruto who was Directly responsible for making Hinata into the person she was. This does a great disservice to hinatas character in that it invalidates her entire growth and confession.

the entire point of Hinatas character is that she admired Naruto and used his determination as the inspiration to change and become stronger. To insinuate that Naruto was responsible for this change implies he built her up like a set of legos.

I don't know about it going so far as saying he "built her up"--remember, he has been directly responsible for change in other characters, but didn't necessarily build them up either--but I agree that saying Naruto's responsible for her growth really cuts down Hinata as the person she is. She was inspired by Naruto and chose to use that inspiration herself; she did all of the building with Naruto's image as a sort of spring-board.

[Leney]

Honestly thinking about what Kushina said, I'm not sure how much of a NaruSaku booster it is. Those other rules? Naruto hasn't really been all that steadfast in following them. So the NaruHina folks could easily spin it that way. EDIT: In fact they're already doing it. And lots of 'oh well Naruto can't live with a person just like his mother, they'd kill each other!'. Oh and 'eww oedipus complex homg!'

Edited by Leney, 30 July 2010 - 12:52 PM.