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#961 Michi

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 08:18 PM

I bet I'll definitely check out every Wednesday by mistakely for latest release of Naruto & end up realising it already ended

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 08:35 PM

This has probably been said a million times before but am I the only who just loves the fact that the Byakugo seal is still on Sakura's forehead semi-permanently like Tsunade's now? Around the time it was first revealed I was caught up in quite a few battle/feat debates about her new strength, with the most popular of those debates being Hinata vs Sakura. Now ofcourse I know Sakura would win even before the seal given databook stats but people used to always argue how Sakura's Byakugo was a once-in-three years deal, much to my dismay as I'd always stress how it would remain there semi-permanently. I just love the fact that it's still there even with her chakra drained in the manga. Not that any of that matters now since Kishi went made it fodder with Godruto's and Kamisuke's OOTB uberh4x powerups. :ermm:



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Posted 27 October 2014 - 08:57 PM

Guys... shall i say to you what will happen in the movie?

Its simple...

The manga Naruto will END conclusively in 2 weeks.Meaning that Kishi will make a ~10 year timeskip to show us

how Naruto is the Hokage and also his own family (maybe only his children and not the wife to troll us).

 

THE MOVIE will be about the 3 years after the war and -7 years before the shown timeskip in the manga..

Kishi wont rely on the movie.. to end the manga conclusively.....its so simple..

 

Finally.. if there is gonna be another arc after this.. i mean the new era projocect in which Kishi wont be the plot creator..

It will be about the 7 year after the movie until the final timeskip in the manga.

 

He wont let the final final ending of the series (meaning the ~10 years timeskip) be made by other people.. since he is the one who created "Naruto" and he will be the ONE TO END IT..

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 09:24 PM

This has probably been said a million times before but am I the only who just loves the fact that the Byakugo seal is still on Sakura's forehead semi-permanently like Tsunade's now? Around the time it was first revealed I was caught up in quite a few battle/feat debates about her new strength, with the most popular of those debates being Hinata vs Sakura. Now ofcourse I know Sakura would win even before the seal given databook stats but people used to always argue how Sakura's Byakugo was a once-in-three years deal, much to my dismay as I'd always stress how it would remain there semi-permanently. I just love the fact that it's still there even with her chakra drained in the manga. Not that any of that matters now since Kishi went made it fodder with Godruto's and Kamisuke's OOTB uberh4x powerups. :ermm:

 

Naruto and Sasuke were outpacing everyone else by leaps and bounds before they even met Hagoromo. The notion that these these deus ex machinas acted as a necessary turning point with which no one else could hope to glance the same realm of status and strength as the privileged duo is wrong, in my opinion. Part of Kishi's underlying reasoning for the seal was to probably ensure that Sakura has a chance of fulfilling her generational duty of surpassing Tsunade. But that's just Sakura playing catch-up. And there's no certainty that she will be able to maintain the same level of chakra expenditure as she's been doing in this battle against the Jubi. The seal might be retainable, but the power inside of it needs to be replenished after exhausting her supply - that could take 3 more years worth of concentrating chakra to her forehead. 



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Posted 27 October 2014 - 09:46 PM

 

Naruto and Sasuke were outpacing everyone else by leaps and bounds before they even met Hagoromo. The notion that these these deus ex machinas acted as a necessary turning point with which no one else could hope to glance the same realm of status and strength as the privileged duo is wrong, in my opinion. Part of Kishi's underlying reasoning for the seal was to probably ensure that Sakura has a chance of fulfilling her generational duty of surpassing Tsunade. But that's just Sakura playing catch-up. And there's no certainty that she will be able to maintain the same level of chakra expenditure as she's been doing in this battle against the Jubi. The seal might be retainable, but the power inside of it needs to be replenished after exhausting her supply - that could take 3 more years worth of concentrating chakra to her forehead. 

 

First, I never made an argument that Naruto and Sasuke were standard leveled before. I simply said their power ups made Sakura's Byakugo fodder. She could have at least competed to some degree prior Hagoromo's intervention.

 

Secondly, this was the first time Sakura had used this technique so it could be argued that it took three years of concentrated chakra control to create the seal as opposed to fill it up.. per se. There's no established limit to the seal to contribute to it's formation upon being full since it has remained even after being severely exerted. It was mentioned that she had been allocating small portions of her chakra to her forehead for the three years however Sakura is a medicnin and also a kunoichi, which means she uses her chakra quite frequently. That's quite a small amount she's been saving then. I don't see why allocating larger amounts over a smaller time frame wouldn't have a similar effect. Especially considering she's arguably more accustomed to it.

 

 

Btw it's been a long day and I'm sleepy as hell. Just a little heads up if I seem a bit incoherent.



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Posted 27 October 2014 - 09:55 PM

Is the information about chapter 699/700 having tons of color pages legit?? I remember some of you saying it may have been false info and I just wanna see if it's confirmed or not :)

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 09:57 PM

Yeah i was wondering about that too, I see everyone on FB is posting that.

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 10:03 PM

I hope its true.


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Posted 27 October 2014 - 10:08 PM

Yeah i was wondering about that too, I see everyone on FB is posting that.

There was nothing in WSJ about it apparently but Riku said the person who posted it was very reliable, so it is most likely true.


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Posted 27 October 2014 - 10:11 PM

Yeah i was wondering about that too, I see everyone on FB is posting that.

Hey LadyGT, im so looking forward for your new Doujins :D

Cant wait till you release them ^^


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Posted 27 October 2014 - 10:14 PM

I hope you are right. I really want to see a conclusive ending, and that includes the romance sub-plot , in the manga.

 

Btw I like your signature  :hehehe:

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 10:21 PM

Hmmmm I guess it wouldn't be too bad to have a chapter worth of color pages lol

If there happens to be a pairing moment at the end with Naruto and Sakura, we can actually tell if Sakura is blushing from the coloring and not just from the little scribbles Kishi usually uses!! :fu: lol

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 10:25 PM

First, I never made an argument that Naruto and Sasuke were standard leveled before. I simply said their power ups made Sakura's Byakugo fodder. She could have at least competed to some degree prior Hagoromo's intervention.


Doubtful. Their speed, strength, jutsu arsenal, and feats all paint a different picture to what her proclamation suggests. That's just the end the result when the author fails to adequately portray the character with the necessary feats to counter what they have shown. Frankly, I don't believe the current Sakura is an equal to the Sasuke and Naruto from the second Shippuden and Invasion of Pain arcs respectively, but that's another thing.
 

Secondly, this was the first time Sakura had used this technique so it could be argued that it took three years of concentrated chakra control to create the seal as opposed to fill it up..per se. There's no established limit to the seal to contribute to it's formation upon being full since it has remained even after being severely exerted. It was mentioned that she had been allocating small portions of her chakra to her forehead for the three years however Sakura is a medicnin and also a kunoichi, which means she uses her chakra quite frequently. That's quite a small amount she's been saving then. I don't see why allocating larger amounts over a smaller time frame wouldn't have a similar effect. Especially considering she's arguably more accustomed to it.


Maintaining the external visual seal itself doesn't require much chakra. Tsunade's returned to her with just the residual chakra that Dan's spirit was able to siphon off to her. What I'm questioning is how Sakura is expected to resupply all of the chakra she used to heal thousands of shinobi, summon an enormous slug, use regeneration on one occasion, and create three transdimensional gateways that were stated to be taxing for the personification of the Jubi's limitless power in a short time period. Realistically, it makes no sense.

If I were to use an analogy, I would compare the seal to a gas tank. The chakra that Sakura was allocating was used not only to create the whole tank itself, but fill it as well. Once the supply of gas is exhausted, there's nothing substantial occupying that empty container. Now the tank could be refilled, and the added step of actually needing to build the tank may not be required anymore, but you still need to supply the gas to fill up the tank (just as Sakura's seal was "filled up" in #632 after three years of constant supplying).

Certain theories seem to argue that just the formation of the seal was all that's necessary for the increased chakra reserves - as though the container that's supposed to house the energy somehow offers a near limitless energy supply like the bijuu. The seal's supply does diminish after extensive use. It might continue to physically appear on the forehead, but that huge reservoir of chakra inside of it should be almost completely gone. And Sakura doesn't have the outside resources to replenish it any more quickly than what it originally took to build it up in the first place. She might have an easier time collecting the chakra, but the amount of stamina she's able to provide and the time it takes shouldn't be radically different.

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 10:40 PM

Did Jump themselves make these color pages for 697?

 

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 10:43 PM

Doubtful. Their speed, strength, jutsu arsenal, and feats all paint a different picture to what her proclamation suggests. That's just the end the result when the author fails to adequately portray the character with the necessary feats to counter what they have shown. Frankly, I don't believe the current Sakura is an equal to the Sasuke and Naruto from the second Shippuden and Invasion of Pain arcs respectively, but that's another thing.
 

Maintaining the external visual seal itself doesn't require much chakra. Tsunade's returned to her with just the residual chakra that Dan's spirit was able to siphon off to her. What I'm questioning is how Sakura is expected to resupply all of the chakra she used to heal thousands of shinobi, summon an enormous slug, use regeneration on one occasion, and create three transdimensional gateways that were stated to be taxing for the personification of the Jubi's limitless power in a short time period. Realistically, it makes no sense.

If I were to use an analogy, I would compare the seal to a gas tank. The chakra that Sakura was allocating was used not only to create the whole tank itself, but fill it as well. Once the supply of gas is exhausted, there's nothing substantial occupying that empty container. Now the tank could be refilled, and the added step of actually needing to build the tank may not be required anymore, but you still need to supply the gas to fill up the tank (just as Sakura's seal was "filled up" in #632 after three years of constant supplying).

Certain theories seem to argue that just the formation of the seal was all that's necessary for the increased chakra reserves - as though the container that's supposed to house the energy somehow offers a near limitless energy supply like the bijuu. The seal's supply does diminish after extensive use. It might continue to physically appear on the forehead, but that huge reservoir of chakra inside of it should be almost completely gone. And Sakura doesn't have the outside resources to replenish it any more quickly than what it originally took to build it up in the first place. She might have an easier time collecting the chakra, but the amount of stamina she's able to provide and the time it takes shouldn't be radically different.


I don't think that's how the seal works. For 3 years she basically carved a space in her forehead to store chakra which apparently is a long drawn out process but to re-fill it after it's used out won't take another 3 years. Maybe a few months but another 3 years wouldn't be so practical.


 


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Posted 27 October 2014 - 10:51 PM

I don't think that's how the seal works. For 3 years she basically carved a space in her forehead to store chakra which apparently is a long drawn out process but to re-fill it after it's used out won't take another 3 years. Maybe a few months but another 3 years wouldn't be so practical.


So the seal's formation is what actually took up the lion's share of those 3 years? The chakra supply that she stored inside it, chakra that enabled her to power a technique comparable to the power of Kaguya/the Jubi, is replaceable with just a few months worth of concentrating a fraction of energy using average stamina levels? I don't think Sakura's concentration would allow her to match Kisame or A's enormous bijuu sized reserves in a monthly time frame, much less a fraction of the nine bijuu's overall stamina.

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 10:53 PM

Did Jump themselves make these color pages for 697?

 

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yup, digitally.


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Posted 27 October 2014 - 11:00 PM

 

yup, digitally.

Thanks. These colors aren't considered canon, right? I think they did one before where they had Sasuke's Rinnegan and it was colored red.



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Posted 27 October 2014 - 11:03 PM

Thanks. These colors aren't considered canon, right? I think they did one before where they had Sasuke's Rinnegan and it was colored red.

 

the first times yes, then they changed into purple lol


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Posted 27 October 2014 - 11:06 PM

So the seal's formation is what actually took up the lion's share of those 3 years? The chakra supply that she stored inside it, chakra that enabled her to power a technique comparable to the power of Kaguya/the Jubi, is replaceable with just a few months worth of concentrating a fraction of energy using average stamina levels? I don't think Sakura's concentration would allow her to match Kisame or A's enormous bijuu sized reserves in a monthly time frame, much less a fraction of the nine bijuu's overall stamina.


I agree with the bolded. Remember that she carved and also stored at the same time. So forming the seal will be a longer process but to just replenish it won't take another 3 years. That would be ridiculous. I think replenishing it would just take a  few months close to year to fully bring it to it's full capacity. Not to mention she won't be fighting all the time and most likely won't be using it. I see her seal as part of her chakra network. When dormant her chakra naturally feeds it without her need to concentrate her chakra to the seal.


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