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[Atheck]

Of course. Sakura is well on her way of  becoming one of the strongest Kunoichi's ever. There are not many ninjas that could cope with her strength. She would easily beat any Hyuuga because
1) She is a long range fighter. 2) Her Byakugou seal- This gives her insane power and also makes her invincible.
3) She has been shown to also possess a huge amount of chakra. Its safe to say she can outlast Hiashi quite comfortably.

 
It's difficult to estimate anything relating to CQC from Sakura. She's never really shown any quickness or dexterity, or fluidity in her movements, or the adaptableness necessary to countering and outperforming a skilled opponent in taijutsu. The brunt of her power seems to be derived from rushing forward and trying to clobber her opponents in the face. She's so uncompromisingly rigid with these tried-and-true methods that she comes across as simplistic and linear whenever she fights. We've never even seen her use her CES throughout other portions of her body besides that instance where she elbowed a Zetsu into the ground. How does she expect to fight if her arms are preoccupied or if she's faced with a situation where punches are unfeasible? 
 
On the other hand, we've seen some fairly impressive taijutsu manoeuvres from Neji before, a man who was logically inferior to his uncle at the time. Not only did he outperform someone with the same head-on tactics as Sakura, he did so while being outnumbered several to one. 
 

Neji dominating in his fight against Naruto

If Chunin Exams Neji could perform that well, just imagine how incredible Hiashi is. The man has a 5 in taijutsu for a reason. And we can't forget the size of his Kaiten when he fought those shinobi during the Konoha Invasion arc or his Vacuum Wall Palm (a much more powerful variation of the standard Air Palm). I think Sakura would be easily beaten if the fight were to come down to skill alone. It's the devastation of her punches and the longevity of her regeneration that act as saving graces for Sakura's chances in this match-up.

[narusaku256]

 
It's difficult to estimate anything relating to CQC from Sakura. She's never really shown any quickness or dexterity, or fluidity in her movements, or the adaptableness necessary to countering and outperforming a skilled opponent in taijutsu. The brunt of her power seems to be derived from rushing forward and trying to clobber her opponents in the face. She's so uncompromisingly rigid with these tried-and-true methods that she comes across as simplistic and linear whenever she fights. We've never even seen her use her CES throughout other portions of her body besides that instance where she elbowed a Zetsu into the ground. How does she expect to fight if her arms are preoccupied or if she's faced with a situation where punches are unfeasible? 
 
On the other hand, we've seen some fairly impressive taijutsu manoeuvres from Neji before, a man who was logically inferior to his uncle at the time. Not only did he outperform someone with the same head-on tactics as Sakura, he did so while being outnumbered several to one. 
 

Neji dominating in his fight against Naruto

If Chunin Exams Neji could perform that well, just imagine how incredible Hiashi is. The man has a 5 in taijutsu for a reason. And we can't forget the size of his Kaiten when he fought those shinobi during the Konoha Invasion arc or his Vacuum Wall Palm (a much more powerful variation of the standard Air Palm). I think Sakura would be easily beaten if the fight were to come down to skill alone. It's the devastation of her punches and the longevity of her regeneration that act as saving graces for Sakura's chances in this match-up.

I dunno whether Sakura would beat Hiashi or not but....there's one more factor to consider! That's experience! It is the unspoken truth that Hiashi has way more experience than Sakura or even Naruto for that matter! If you base of Naruto on pure raw strength as someone against Hiashi, even Naruto would have hard time defeating him. He will! But its going to be difficult for him! But ofcourse, this is valid when we only take Taijutsu under consideration! If we add Ninjutsu to the comparison, Naruto would beat Hiashi. Even so, not easily, but with considerably less effort as against Taijutsu on Taijutsu!

Sakura vs Hiashi....is a tough one! But...I do think Sakura would win this one if she has her Byakugou since Hiashi would hit her chakra gate and she'd instantly heal it! She is smart enough and can land a powerful blow on Hiashi which can go in for a KO. But ofcourse if Hiashi let's her! Not that she can't, she can but she would require a flawless strategy which heavily includes the use of diversions to conquer Hiashi's Kaiten AND then hitting him with a lethal punch which she can generate pretty easily! The main obstacles are Hiashi's experience and his Kaiten! Conquer those and the battle belongs to Sakura! But unfortunately, they are hard to conquer! Its a tough one...really!

Quite oddly....I can say with guarantee that Tsunade would beat Hiashi fair and square! Hiashi's experience pales infront of Tsunade's!

Edited by narusaku256, 03 September 2014 - 04:49 PM.

[Hiraishin]

It's the devastation of her punches and the longevity of her regeneration that act as saving graces for Sakura's chances in this match-up.

That's what I thought too. She would probably outlast Hiashi, because of the Byakugou and all, but he's lmore skilled than her imo, at least in taijutsu. And Sakura would be at a disadvantage because she needs to get close to hit her opponent, while a technique like Vaccuum Palm can be used from a distance. Sakura could wear him out by avoiding his attacks and maybe get in a couple of punches (she can read his fighting style and adapt to it and if need be use kawarimi or something, idk if the Byakugan can read through that or anything, and if she's hit she can always heal herself or use creation rebirth/byakugou) and, once he's tired, get in close and take him out.

edit: ooh, rocci reminded me about katsuyu. If Sakura is allowed to use her, then she could get her to spit acid on his ass, and cover her when Hiashi tries to attack. Yeah, Sakura would definitely win in that instance imo.

Edited by Hiraishin, 03 September 2014 - 05:13 PM.

[rocci]

If hiashi vs sakura happen. Sakura will win this 9 out of 10 with katsuyu restriction.
Sakura max out puch aoe beat hiashi kaiten aoe.
Could sakura with close fight? Unless she has ssm, I don't think she could win it.

[Nostradamus]

You guys are way over estimating the Hyuuga's and Hiashi. You're forgetting the fact that Kishi trolled the Hyuuga clan big time.

The Hyuuga clan is the most pitiful clan out there. All that's left of them is their catchphrase "The Hyuuga's are the strongest in Konoha" and that's it.

[elmas]

Hiashi is Konoha's the strongest clan's leader!!!....But Sakura will be the winner .

[ns.Believe.It]

 
It's difficult to estimate anything relating to CQC from Sakura. She's never really shown any quickness or dexterity, or fluidity in her movements, or the adaptableness necessary to countering and outperforming a skilled opponent in taijutsu. The brunt of her power seems to be derived from rushing forward and trying to clobber her opponents in the face. She's so uncompromisingly rigid with these tried-and-true methods that she comes across as simplistic and linear whenever she fights. We've never even seen her use her CES throughout other portions of her body besides that instance where she elbowed a Zetsu into the ground. How does she expect to fight if her arms are preoccupied or if she's faced with a situation where punches are unfeasible? 
 
On the other hand, we've seen some fairly impressive taijutsu manoeuvres from Neji before, a man who was logically inferior to his uncle at the time. Not only did he outperform someone with the same head-on tactics as Sakura, he did so while being outnumbered several to one. 
 

Neji dominating in his fight against Naruto

If Chunin Exams Neji could perform that well, just imagine how incredible Hiashi is. The man has a 5 in taijutsu for a reason. And we can't forget the size of his Kaiten when he fought those shinobi during the Konoha Invasion arc or his Vacuum Wall Palm (a much more powerful variation of the standard Air Palm). I think Sakura would be easily beaten if the fight were to come down to skill alone. It's the devastation of her punches and the longevity of her regeneration that act as saving graces for Sakura's chances in this match-up.

Heh, I don't think its fair to take the Chuunin exam as an example. It was a long time ago and back then Naruto and Sakura were just very young rookies.

 

 I really believe Neji was made to look awesome in the beginning stages of their fight just to highlight Naruto's underdog status then. Do you remember Neji taunting Naruto about destinies and how a loser like Naruto could never beat someone who was born with gifts of skill? That matchup was pretty much Neji( the naturally gifted and sheer genius) vs Naruto( the underdog considered as a loser).

 

Naruto's strongest jutsu, the shadow clone was made to look like no-match to Neji's skills initially just to show how much of a mismatch it seemed. But then finally Naruto ended up beating Neji by a shadow clone jutsu. This was used to highlight Naruto's 'never give up' ninja way and that even the ones who are not born talented can beat the genius by sheer hard work and dedication.

[narusaku256]

You guys are way over estimating the Hyuuga's and Hiashi. You're forgetting the fact that Kishi trolled the Hyuuga clan big time.
The Hyuuga clan is the most pitiful clan out there. All that's left of them is their catchphrase "The Hyuuga's are the strongest in Konoha" and that's it.

He's trolling every clan out there except Senju! He loves poking holes in Uchihas! Good grief he did not write about the Uzumaki clan.....

[Branden]

Guys Sakura is not a fighter. She's a healer. If she went up against a jonin level combat specialist she would be defeated. Just remember back to when Tsunade fought against Kabuto. Medics don't last long in direct confrontation.

[elmas]

He's trolling every clan out there except Senju! He loves poking holes in Uchihas! Good grief he did not write about the Uzumaki clan.....

But he values Uchiha clan more.........But he trolls more,too

[rocci]

He's trolling every clan out there except Senju! He loves poking holes in Uchihas! Good grief he did not write about the Uzumaki clan.....

He will write about uzumaki clan since naruto suit from its fighting style(sealing).

@braden
Well, sakura, tsunade, and kabuto are battle medic who can last longer when fighting againt jounin level opponent. Especially for sakura and tsunade who have super punch and instant regeneration.

[Chatte]

Guys Sakura is not a fighter. She's a healer. If she went up against a jonin level combat specialist she would be defeated. Just remember back to when Tsunade fought against Kabuto. Medics don't last long in direct confrontation.

You realize you're comparing a rusty Tsunade who hadn't slept in days, back then, right?!

[elmas]

Tsunade puched Madara's susanoo and you know it's Madara.Well Sakura punched a God so a Hyuuga will lose against Sakura right now.

[narusaku256]

Heh, I don't think its fair to take the Chuunin exam as an example. It was a long time ago and back then Naruto and Sakura were just very young rookies.
 
 I really believe Neji was made to look awesome in the beginning stages of their fight just to highlight Naruto's underdog status then. Do you remember Neji taunting Naruto about destinies and how a loser like Naruto could never beat someone who was born with gifts of skill? That matchup was pretty much Neji( the naturally gifted and sheer genius) vs Naruto( the underdog considered as a loser).
 
Naruto's strongest jutsu, the shadow clone was made to look like no-match to Neji's skills initially just to show how much of a mismatch it seemed. But then finally Naruto ended up beating Neji by a shadow clone jutsu. This was used to highlight Naruto's 'never give up' ninja way and that even the ones who are not born talented can beat the genius by sheer hard work and dedication.

I...personally think that its not fair to call Naruto as a guy not born with talent and succeeds only by hardwork! Sure he was an underdog, sure he lacked skill then...but have you ever given a thought about Naruto's childhood? Sasuke had ITACHI as his brother. Its apparent they atleast trained together sometimes and Sasuke would atleast try to match his brother thus improving himself in that process! And seeing that it was Itachi....I need not explain how strong Sasuke would get in the process of surpassing his elder brother

Neji was born as a Hyuuga! His father trained him! And seeing how strict the Hyuugas are, its apparent for Neji to be strong as well. Everyone except Sakura and Naruto(for the time being) belonged to a reputed clan and had each of their clan's specialities. Sakura had a simple family background and yet she has managed to come this far and is said to have strength even stronger than Tsunade's said by Hashirama himself! She might have surpassed Tsunade, one of the legendary Sanin as well. And considering that she was born in a simple family without any bloodline ability, this feat that she has achieved is quite extraordinary! Now Naruto, though this guy belonged to the prestigious Uzumaki clan, his childhood was total crap. He literally had no one! Jiraiya was on a mission to spy on Akatsuki and only met him when he was 12. Uptil then....all that Naruto learnt was by himself! And in that condition, facing someone as strong as Zabuza and even defeating him, is quite applausible! Did you see how quick Naruto progressed when Jiraiya took over him? At times, he managed to surprise Jiraiya himself! All this requires talent man! Its unfair to call Naruto an underdog! You can call it unexploited talent but NOT underdog because underdog literally means having no talent! He even learnt making Rasenshuriken pretty quickly when Kakashi himself stated that even for an experienced ninja, mastering nature transformation can take as long as ten years or even more and its no guarantee that he'd learn it after that! And Naruto mastered that in what? Like....in a couple of days? Not even Minato or Kakashi or even Jiraiya for that matter couldn't do it! Hell Kakashi was also shocked when he first saw Naruto using normal Rasengan! Jiraiya trained for years and yet he could not master senjutsu fully and again Naruto accomplished it in days! All this requires a lot of talent goddamit! Its really unfair to call Naruto an underdog! You call it unexploited talent but NOT underdog!

[Chatte]

WHy don't we move this to the Sparring grounds? It's kinda off-topic...

[soraandven]

so today's chapter i guess is gonna have everyone freed i just hope there's no nh moment what i want is someone to mention sakura doing cpr it could lead to a ns kiss making it canon then the nh/ss fans willl go insane

[Gravenimage]

I'm pretty sure after the IT is dispelled Naruto will search for Hinata (he knows where to find her because he shares a mental link with her). He will tell her how much he loves her and then they will kiss.

[Branden]

You realize you're comparing a rusty Tsunade who hadn't slept in days, back then, right?!

And a Kabuto who wasn't allowed to kill her. I'd say trying to use nonlethal force against someone using lethal force is more difficult than using your full strength while you're tired. Adrenaline kicks and the sleep part won't matter for a while.

[FoolishYoungling]

I'm pretty sure after the IT is dispelled Naruto will search for Hinata (he knows where to find her because he shares a mental link with her). He will tell her how much he loves her and then they will kiss.

Please don't spoil the chapter. At least you didn't spoil them about how Naruto will ask her for some kids. Crap.... now I'm spoiling everyone too.

[luffyq1]

You realize you're comparing a rusty Tsunade who hadn't slept in days, back then, right?!

Not only that, but iirc wasn't she afraid of blood at the time?