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#961 Otaru

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 07:41 PM

 

I remember it. It is one of my favorites and a masterpiece.

 

Anyway, it was not so simple like Kyoko not wanting admitting her feelings. Kyoko was a widow, and for a long time she did not WANT moving on. Moreover, falling in love again implied to her that she was somehow betraying or dismissing her late husband.

 

Yeah it's true it's not really the same as I said

 

But some of the scenes of Kyoko with Yusaku always make me think about NaruSaku.


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Posted 18 May 2014 - 08:03 PM

So how she will move on from Sasuke since she showed until now she loves him?
She will realize because Sasuke is bad? on which will become good in the end? Not because she will fall in love with Naruto later? Didnt many people here told me many times that Sakura will choose Naruto over Sasuke on equal grounds isnt contradictory to think she's already in love with Naruto when she shows the contrary everytime?
We have Kakashi and that line which can be irrelevant depending on what lead Kakashi to that conclusion.

 

It could happen multiple ways, could be from what the Infinate tsukuyomi(?)  shows her, could be be simple realisation that once Sasuke actually becomes an attainable dream she realises she doesn't really want him....AND that is with the assumption that she still thinks she is in love with Sasuke, she might just like him now and no longer love him, nobody thinks Ino still loves Sasuke, yet nothings been shown that suggests her feelings have changed either, she was the one who was crying when it the Rookie Nine decided to kill Sasuke, Sakura had a deeper attachment to Sasuke, and she still wants to save him, same as Naruto.

 

Why do keep saying Sakura loving Sasuke has to do with her realising how good or bad he is? Love doesn't work that way, look at Karin she loves Sasuke even after he almost killed and would have died if not for Sakura? Sakura knows what Sasuke is capable of, when he returned to their side only her and Sai were shown to be weary and distrustful, she knows what Sasuke is capable of but she still hopes that the person who dived infront of Naruto when fighting Haku is still in there somewhere. She has yet to realise she's already got over Sasuke, and fallen for Naruto, so it's not contradicting anything, There is a saying 'you are the last person to know' Everyone around them sees it, but the two people who matter the most, Naruto doesn't see it because he still think she's the same 13 year old who told him to save Sasuke for her, and she is too focused on her mission to save Sasuke that she doesn't realise her own feelings.

 

 

The main reason why i dont get this is that, we already got many moments and even a confession and Sakura thinking about her feelings for Naruto.
Still he pretty much confirmed her feelings for Sasuke after this(Summit) and 540 supporting the fact she still "loves" Sasuke, it was never shown that Sakura has now feelings for Naruto and she acknowledges it, all i see is something platonic whom is strongly inclined become love because Sai told her that Naruto loves her thus making Naruto a potential lover.
 

 

Chapter 540 has been grossly misintepreted (even by myself originally) in my opinion, I think it was to show a contradiction to what the person who confessed to her said, 'If it's somone Sakura likes, he must be a great person' and the first thought that popped into her head was the perfect person to contridict that statement, and it's been less than a week since she saw that person who was a raving lunatic. It was to emphasize the point that just because you are a nice person you'll not fall for someone who is not suitable, also as I have said before, Sakura might still thinks she loves Sasuke, her brain has been pre-programmed to think she loves Sasuke, and because the situation with Sasuke has never been resolved she hasn't managed to move past it. Once she's dealt with her baggage related to Sasuke she'll hopefully be able to move forward. (Also this was when Kishi was at his trolling the fandom peak, he trolled SakuNaru fanbase with the confession, the NaruHina fanbase with the lase of resolution after her confession. He was at his peak...I think it's only this year he has been more forward about the pairings, i'm still shocked Kakashi got to finish his internal monologue last week.)

 

 

Yep Naruto loves Sakura but there's also the possibility of open ending.
It's either NS or open ending.

 

I can't see an open ending, largely because Kishi has made such a big deal about these feelings, about lost loves, and about family so I can't see Kishi not ending it with a Epilogue set a few years in the future, he needs to resolve this for the decade and a half he has deliberately let the fanbase on.


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Posted 18 May 2014 - 09:01 PM

I hope next chapter isn't filler. This one was more made to be a cliffhanger than anything else.

 

 

p.s. Thanks for the explanation DattebayoXShannaro about Sakura's build up.

there is no filler in manga


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Posted 18 May 2014 - 09:25 PM

On the brightside, at least Naruto don't have to intervene and be like, "How could you like him? He's putting you in danger! I can protect you." You know, actual love triangle. A bad one...

 

Well, no, that could never happen with how the manga events transpired.  Naruto respects Sakura enough not to tell her who she should like, and he also respects Sasuke enough to not badmouth him, though I can't comprehend why.



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Posted 18 May 2014 - 09:42 PM

there is no filler in manga

I know, it just felt like nothing really happened in the chapter besides Madara getting his other eye and about to activate the Tsukuyomi.


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Posted 18 May 2014 - 09:43 PM

I'm just saying love triangle always get ugly when all three are involved physically. That's why we should be thankful Sasuke isn't part of it. Physically that is.

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 10:09 PM

I'm just saying love triangle always get ugly when all three are involved physically. That's why we should be thankful Sasuke isn't part of it. Physically that is.

 

Imagine if Naruto was a harem....*shivers at the thought*


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Posted 18 May 2014 - 10:22 PM

Naruto a harem? Oh God NO! For the love of humanity anything but that!


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Posted 18 May 2014 - 10:25 PM

Imagine if Naruto was a harem....*shivers at the thought*

He would end up with Tenten.
I recently read the world only god knows which ended last month, and despite being a shounen.
I'm still butthurt that the main character ended with the most boring female character with the least development(chihiro) in contrast to relationships he strongly developed on Haqua and Kanon.
I dont even need to point out that he turned his partner Elsie into a kittening superweapon that in the end wished to be his sister.(she become his "real" sister in the end).

Although i enjoyed the series and the main character was quite unique, he was really my type of main.

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 11:14 PM

 
Yeah it's true it's not really the same as I said
 
But some of the scenes of Kyoko with Yusaku always make me think about NaruSaku.


I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who read Maison Ikkoku, it's one of my favourite manga :)
 
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Posted 19 May 2014 - 12:09 AM

I'm just saying love triangle always get ugly when all three are involved physically. That's why we should be thankful Sasuke isn't part of it. Physically that is.

yeah sasuke is only interested in building his own village


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Posted 19 May 2014 - 12:11 AM

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who read Maison Ikkoku, it's one of my favourite manga :)

 

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 12:41 AM

He would end up with Tenten.
I recently read the world only god knows which ended last month, and despite being a shounen.
I'm still butthurt that the main character ended with the most boring female character with the least development(chihiro) in contrast to relationships he strongly developed on Haqua and Kanon.
I dont even need to point out that he turned his partner Elsie into a kittening superweapon that in the end wished to be his sister.(she become his "real" sister in the end).

Although i enjoyed the series and the main character was quite unique, he was really my type of main.

What, twgok already end? I tought the manga end with open ending, seem that keima doesn't interest in romance thing, and the canon pairing with the girl he reject? Lol this is interesting, I will read it again.

If naruto, become a harem, I think it will like ichigo 100% or love hina.
If naruto end in part one, then yes open ending would happen.

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 12:59 AM

What, twgok already end? I tought the manga end with open ending, seem that keima doesn't interest in romance thing, and the canon pairing with the girl he reject? Lol this is interesting, I will read it again.

Yes man, the ending was rushed on the last three chapters and he ended with the least developed girl and with the least screentime.

If naruto, become a harem, I think it will like ichigo 100% or love hina.
If naruto end in part one, then yes open ending would happen.

The trend with harem mangas is that they always deliver disappointing endings, i thought Twgok was going to be different but the author got sick and decided to rush the ending, by making Eslie the last boss and a superweapon that wishes to be his sister and he ends with Chihiro.
The end is all the other girls being depressed and some other two crying.
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Posted 19 May 2014 - 01:14 AM

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The last arc just like buu saga, that's what the impression I got.
Three last chapter feel rush? Don't tell me the manga getting axed, because of poor rating.
Well tbh, chihiro is my first heroine and the second is the cross dresser girl.

At least the author has the ball to end harem manga with a definite pairing. So prop to him, because most harem usually end with no pairing, especially the shonen one.

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 01:30 AM

@darkrest
The last arc just like buu saga, that's what the impression I got.
Three last chapter feel rush? Don't tell me the manga getting axed, because of poor rating.
Well tbh, chihiro is my first heroine and the second is the cross dresser girl.

At least the author has the ball to end harem manga with a definite pairing. So prop to him, because most harem usually end with no pairing, especially the shonen one.

The manga itself didnt got axed because of the ending but on the ending discussions most people complained about chihiro and also the elsie factor.
Overall i give 7/10 to the manga.
I felt the MC really unique and interesting.

I dont see merit on the author for ending a harem manga with a definitive pairing at the end of the story.
Highschool DxD as example Issei and Rias are already canon since volume 6.
Heroines likeable are pretty much subjective matter but pratically everyone i bumped into the discussion dislike chihiro and keima because the lack of development and panel time.

Anyway my hopes are for Date a Live hope it doenst have a disappointing ending.

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 02:04 AM

Hey I want to ask you guys opinion about something. I know most of you are going to disagree with me but I wanted to know if a few agree....

What would any of you think of Sakura having to face Madara alone and almost dying in the process?? Like if she were to be the only one to get out of the infinite tsukiyomi's spell, luckily for her genjutsu affinity, and would have to find a way to stop it completely to free everyone else....

Reason why I'm asking is because ever since she has shown of releasing her yin seal in the last chapter and fully activating genesis rebirth to me it's like it's foreshadowing something bad to happen to Sakura. Much like what happened to tsunade after she faced Madara with the other kage......

I would imagine if this were to occur it would be similar to how Hinata faced pain.......except Sakura would be getting a worse beating but still ends up stopping the tsukiyomi. Now please don't get me wrong because I don't want to see a girl getting beaten up by a tyrannical man what's so ever..........but we have seen multiple times of Sakura being beaten to a bloody mess, bruised, cutted and pierced by a sword in the stomach!!! And I don't think Kishi is going to stop..... And with the manga being so close to ending and there being one final evil villain.....he may very well do it again with Sakura having to face Madara!!

To me if Sakura were to face Madara alone and doing whatever it took to stop His Tsukiyomi or at least delay it would be very beneficial to her character development and popularity as of late. I don't if I'm correct in this (and if I'm not please prove me wrong) but has most of Sakura's most greatest or badass moments have been involved when she looks like she's been ran over by a train!?!? And around those times most of the fandom was thinking of her in a better light because this woman would whatever it took to fight for what she believed in?? To deliver a message to us, the audience??? I believe if this were to happen to sakura it would cement her holding as the heroin in the manga and people wouldn't think twice about it!!!!

Now as far her almost......"ALMOST" dying when fighting Madara............ Well come on she's facing the guy who, how did sawyer7mage said it, is F'n the world and was using Obito as his condom!?!? O_o she isn't gonna make it out In one piece and especially with her seal now activated and she can instant regenerate..... She's gonna possibly lose some limbs in the process!!! And in the end when she is successful of stopping?? the tsukiyomi and if her seal disappears and no longer healing her anymore while still having critical injuries........ I wouldn't put it past a certain blond ninja to "bring her back to life" :D lol

Now that's all I got to say and if anyone that reads this disagrees please tell me and If anyone who does feel free to do the same X) I just had to get that off my chest and to see what others may think about this.....

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 02:09 AM



I can't see an open ending, largely because Kishi has made such a big deal about these feelings, about lost loves, and about family so I can't see Kishi not ending it with a Epilogue set a few years in the future, he needs to resolve this for the decade and a half he has deliberately let the fanbase on.

I agree. Especially after 631, I mean if he was gonna do an open ending, then why even confirm Sakura to be like Kushina? That pretty much told us the end pairing right there.


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Posted 19 May 2014 - 02:12 AM

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Yes the main character is unique, I mean most shonen harem manga usually has a wimpy character that for some reason getting popular to the most beautiful girl in the manga.

What's date a live? manga, anime, or light novel? If it has a definite pairing than it could end with satisfied manner.

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 02:30 AM

He would end up with Tenten.
I recently read the world only god knows which ended last month, and despite being a shounen.
I'm still butthurt that the main character ended with the most boring female character with the least development(chihiro) in contrast to relationships he strongly developed on Haqua and Kanon.
I dont even need to point out that he turned his partner Elsie into a kittening superweapon that in the end wished to be his sister.(she become his "real" sister in the end).

Although i enjoyed the series and the main character was quite unique, he was really my type of main.

 

Please, can you put these in spoiler tags to prevent fans still reading that manga from getting spoiled?

 

Hey I want to ask you guys opinion about something. I know most of you are going to disagree with me but I wanted to know if a few agree....

What would any of you think of Sakura having to face Madara alone and almost dying in the process?? Like if she were to be the only one to get out of the infinite tsukiyomi's spell, luckily for her genjutsu affinity, and would have to find a way to stop it completely to free everyone else....

Reason why I'm asking is because ever since she has shown of releasing her yin seal in the last chapter and fully activating genesis rebirth to me it's like it's foreshadowing something bad to happen to Sakura. Much like what happened to tsunade after she faced Madara with the other kage......

I would imagine if this were to occur it would be similar to how Hinata faced pain.......except Sakura would be getting a worse beating but still ends up stopping the tsukiyomi. Now please don't get me wrong because I don't want to see a girl getting beaten up by a tyrannical man what's so ever..........but we have seen multiple times of Sakura being beaten to a bloody mess, bruised, cutted and pierced by a sword in the stomach!!! And I don't think Kishi is going to stop..... And with the manga being so close to ending and there being one final evil villain.....he may very well do it again with Sakura having to face Madara!!

To me if Sakura were to face Madara alone and doing whatever it took to stop His Tsukiyomi or at least delay it would be very beneficial to her character development and popularity as of late. I don't if I'm correct in this (and if I'm not please prove me wrong) but has most of Sakura's most greatest or badass moments have been involved when she looks like she's been ran over by a train!?!? And around those times most of the fandom was thinking of her in a better light because this woman would whatever it took to fight for what she believed in?? To deliver a message to us, the audience??? I believe if this were to happen to sakura it would cement her holding as the heroin in the manga and people wouldn't think twice about it!!!!

Now as far her almost......"ALMOST" dying when fighting Madara............ Well come on she's facing the guy who, how did sawyer7mage said it, is F'n the world and was using Obito as his condom!?!? O_o she isn't gonna make it out In one piece and especially with her seal now activated and she can instant regenerate..... She's gonna possibly lose some limbs in the process!!! And in the end when she is successful of stopping?? the tsukiyomi and if her seal disappears and no longer healing her anymore while still having critical injuries........ I wouldn't put it past a certain blond ninja to "bring her back to life" :D lol

Now that's all I got to say and if anyone that reads this disagrees please tell me and If anyone who does feel free to do the same X) I just had to get that off my chest and to see what others may think about this.....

 

Sakura cannot face Madara alone.  We've already seen the results.  She's already the heroine, no need to prove herself.  Her haters will continue to find things to bash her with regardless of her achievements.  About her genjutsu talent, despite being able to counter genjutsu at a young age, I doubt anything can get out of Infinite Tsukiyomi.  It not only entangles and cocoons a person in rooots, but while inside, the Shinju is draining a person's charka.  Even if a person can break out of it, by the time he/she does, the shinobi is most likely too weak from the chakra drain to escape the roots.  I believe Sakura will truly accept the meaning of Yamato's words of "It doesn't matter if what you do is big or small, but the strength of your feelings."   Let's face it.  At this point in time, there's no way she's going to become super strong enough to be able to fight Madara.  However, instead of contemplating on what she can't do, she'll start focusing on what she can.  Also, this doesn't mean that she will give up on her goal is to stand with her teammates in terms of power and be at the front, but she'll focus on that after the war.  Right now, she'll focus on what she can do.

 

@darkrest
Yes the main character is unique, I mean most shonen harem manga usually has a wimpy character that for some reason getting popular to the most beautiful girl in the manga.

What's date a live? manga, anime, or light novel? If it has a definite pairing than it could end with satisfied manner.

 

Light novel, with an anime adaptation, currently two seasons, with season two airing now.  I recommend it, rocci.


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