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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:00 AM

QUOTE (narulsaku @ Feb 4 2013, 12:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes thats also a point. so after ns what ll happen to hinata? or kishi ll kill her before that!


If Kishimoto kills Hinata off, more than half of the Naruto fandom will hate him forever. laugh.gif Plus, the NH fans will be quick to say "Naruto only ended up with Sakura 'cause Hinata died!" th_7eyytubokky7rehok1k.gif


My prediction is Hinata realizing Naruto doesn't love her and remember again that her heiress role is more important than some guy who you crush on 24/7. After that, she will gain more confidence and lead the Hyuga Clan, honoring Neji and making her father proud. I will be elated if Hinata ends up on not caring about romance as much as she does now. It would be kinda disatisifing for her to still be so romance-obsessed when that's really almost her entire character. sleep.gif

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:06 AM

hey this is odd but i was wondering if hinata becomes like tsunade. what do ya think?

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:09 AM

QUOTE (narulsaku @ Feb 3 2013, 08:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
oh so how its going? did ya get a comment on them?

There are a few comments. You can go check it out on JamesSCassidy's podcast thread. happy.gif

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:48 AM

QUOTE (narulsaku @ Feb 3 2013, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes james i do agree with ya but what if she doesnt let go? can she change narutos thoughts? i am feeling like guilty asking that question so please dont misunderstand me.


Then she is too selfish and she doesn't deserve him. Love is not about getting what you want, but loving someone enough before yourself. Remember, infatuation vs love.

Infatuation is selfish and selfish satisfying. Love is selfless at no matter what the cost.

Hinata should understand this. If she decides to kill herself or stop living her life because Naruto doesn't love her, then she doesn't know what love is and has no life beyond it. Hinata would be even more pathetic then she is now. As I said, I respect her enough to know and trust she isn't like this.

A lot of people want NH to be together because of guilt or infatuation or something like that, but love is nothing like that.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:50 AM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Feb 4 2013, 02:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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You cannot say Sakura will never go back to Sasuke, it's better to say that it's highly unlikeable that she will go back running to Sasuke and crush Naruto's heart, highly unlikeable yes, but never say impossible.

I say impossible because it was shown that it is, on the scenario that she still loves Sasuke which has great chances of not happening.


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Posted 04 February 2013 - 10:25 AM

nah i dont think sakura will ever go to sasuke. after all those devlopments between ns . ss is dead in my eyes.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:26 PM

If Hinata doesn't make more progress on letting go her infatuation on Naruto, and focuses on other important things at the end, then that will be a big damage for her character. I doubt that Kishi will let her character sink that much mellow.gif

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:22 PM

yes i doubt that too , but is there anyother idea. she has to realise that naruto truly loves sakura and he look upon hinata as a friend. no different than ino or anyother though naruto has strong feeling for her than ino or someone! its like sakura 100% hinata 20% ino5% .

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:26 PM

QUOTE (narulsaku @ Feb 4 2013, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes i doubt that too , but is there anyother idea. she has to realise that naruto truly loves sakura and he look upon hinata as a friend. no different than ino or anyother though naruto has strong feeling for her than ino or someone! its like sakura 100% hinata 20% ino5% .

Well, she's in the friends category. It still won't be any difference. Simple as that XD

Edited by T XD, 04 February 2013 - 02:28 PM.


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Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:30 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Feb 4 2013, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, she's in the friends category. It still won't be any difference. Simple as that XD

then why kishi made it that complex.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:43 PM

QUOTE (narulsaku @ Feb 4 2013, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
then why kishi made it that complex.

He had evolves it to this rate to make suspension and to keep the fans reading. Plus, somewhat for drama purposes.

Edited by T XD, 04 February 2013 - 02:45 PM.


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Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:54 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Feb 4 2013, 09:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He had evolves it to this rate to make suspension and to keep the fans reading. Plus, somewhat for drama purposes.

i guess you are right ! and for sakura she still loves sasuke. now i wonder how he is going to stop nh and ss for ns.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:59 PM

I wish I knew what everyone was talking about... missing a whole day sucks. From what I can tell though, everyone seem to wants Hinata to drop her hero worship of Naruto and Sakura to give up on her false impression of Sasuke

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 08:29 PM

I feel like we always end up getting back to that topic in here tongue.gif.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:54 PM

QUOTE (Qia @ Feb 4 2013, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I feel like we always end up getting back to that topic in here tongue.gif.

That's usually the case. Our discussions seem to always come back to the same points. sweat.gif

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 10:16 PM

You guys should check out the podcast. We have discuss stuff like this and I'm happy to see more subscribers, comments, etc. Spread the word. happy.gif

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 11:07 PM

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You guys should check out the podcast. We have discuss stuff like this and I'm happy to see more subscribers, comments, etc. Spread the word. happy.gif


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Posted 04 February 2013 - 11:08 PM

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Ah I already did it and peopel are highly pleased by it! So happy! ^^

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:06 AM

ah i wish if i could see that. but i cant in my mobile. its not 3g.man!

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:31 AM

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A lot of Hinata's fans confuse me. They constantly preach and admire her, seeing as the goddess of all that is good and pure. Statements like "Hinata's such a strong person! She tries so hard!" are nice and all, yet her extreme fans say things like "Hinata loves Naruto more than her own life! She can't live without him. (I actually saw a comment like that once on YT and it had 30 likes sleep.gif ) That's why she needs to be with him. She deserves him and the happiness they can give each other." You can't have both of these statements and have the same standing argument. They are terribly contradictory. Being needy =\=Being strong. It's either one or the other.

I completely love Naruto & Sakura, but I have never seen either of them being unable to accept rejection or being broken beyond repair if the person they love didn't love them. Naruto's proven to be pained and really, really sad if Sakura god forbid chose Sasuke in the end instead of him. But he'd be okay with it in the end because Sakura would be happy. And with Sakura, she's made it clear she can live without Sasuke as well. She was willing to be the mature one and recognize the reality of Sasuke during the Kage Summit. Plus, she put Naruto's safety above her love for Sasuke. Not to mention she was willing to have Naruto hate her by killing Sasuke so his burden would be lifted and he wouldn't kill himself trying too hard to bring him back. I see a very strong, independent girl here. She's not the complete Sasuke satellite who once screamed to him that without him she would be truly alone and wanted to leave the village with him. I do not see this needy girl some people of the Naruto fandom make her out to be. Reminds me of a fanfic when Sakura screamed at Naruto angrily for putting Sasuke in prison when she loved him. Just. facepalm.png

Hinata ... I'm less sure of. She does revolve entirely around Naruto and her love for him. However, I don't think she would completely give up on life and happiness if Naruto didn't love her. I personally think she would accept whatever happens, it doesn't matter if had her feelings returned or not. That's what 573 meant. Hinata may be needy in always wanting Naruto to notice her or acknowledge her, but she's not that needy. At least, I would hope not.


@naru|saku: If Hinata still loves Naruto at the end and she isn't with him, I will facepalm. facepalm.png Sure I'd be mostly satisfied if she focused more heavily on her heiress role but that's just ... sad. You know Naruto's not gonna ever be with her and if he ends up with Sakura, he'll be with her his entire life until one of them die. Just ... what's the point of having her still have this attachment when it's not going anywhere? Plus, the NH fans would rage at Kishi for making her have these feelings forever and not letting her have him, I will be disappointed because it's unnecessary for her character. Now seeing Naruto as a friend .. will that be her turning point even more. smile.gif

It's not impossible for Hinata to change his feelings. However, I doubt that will happen because Kishi confirmed Naruto was still in love with Sakura at the time of the Kage Summit (Narutoverse timeline= A few weeks ago). Having him fall for Hinata just because she gave him a pep talk in 615 makes it seem like he's really fickle (which Naruto isn't) and bad writing. Bad writing, as simple as that. Plus, Naruto being consistent in his affections for a whole year in the Naruto timeline only to move on when he doesn't really have a reason to (Can't say Sakura's love for Sasuke. That didn't stop him and he grew to love her even more in Part 2) this late in the series is IMO illogical and random.


Kishimoto confirmed it? Can I see where he said this please?





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