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[luffyq1]

The time that he would bought up the confession already passed when he meet her again and reminded about how she was strong, i dont think that he would talk with Hinata about her confession because he's a typical shounen hero, because this logic still has a double standard, how Sakura can pursue Sasuke if she knows that Naruto loves her?
I hope you get it.

He didn't think about her confession, he thought about her rescue attempt. There's a clear difference. And how is my logic a double standard? My logic does not only apply to Naruto addressing the issue, but with Sakura as well. These issues need a resolution if any of these characters wish to purse a romantic relationship.

Naruto saying that he does not love her will only break her heart and makes things worse the best is her learning though interactions which is the most probably.

There are a billion ways of rejecting someone without coming off as a douchebag. Of course there will be heartbreak, but that's to be expected from a rejection.

Naruto does not worries about Hinata on the same way that Sakura does about Naruto, Naruto and Hinata relationship did not reached the same level of their interaction.
He wasnt concerned about her on this war, he didnt even noticed her when she arrived, he was more concerned about Sakura, he even asked if she was fine.

Umm? Ok.

And yes it makes sense, it's going on the same way when Naruto learned that Sakura loved Sasuke, he didnt back off from pushing a relationship with Sakura

Naruto: "Sakura-chan, you really like Sasuke huh?"

Edited by luffyq1, 04 February 2013 - 12:09 AM.

[Zatheko]

IMO i don't see much of a difference if she sees him with sakura and decides to back off or if he rejects her because of sakura, either way it is still her being denied a reletionship with him and I think whatever feels would come from either of these options would be the same in the end.

[narusaku4ver]

He didn't think about her confession, he thought about her rescue attempt. There's a clear difference. And how is my logic a double standard? My logic does not only apply to Naruto addressing the issue, but with Sakura as well. These issues need a resolution if any of these characters wish to purse a romantic relationship.

There will be no resolution Sakura knows that it will hurt Naruto therefore she will not attempt to pursue Sasuke even if Naruto says "it's okay" she have a great concern not about only Naruto's well being but his happiness as well.
Sakura loving Naruto in the end and Naruto saying "i cant accept because i dont want to hurt Hinata's feelings" is a bad joke.
If Hinata's confession is meant to be important to a point that Naruto cant pursue Sakura so i dont believe there will be NS in the end i only see Sasuke as a wall for Naruto not Hinata.
An open ending without any pairing possibilities.

There are a billion ways of rejecting someone without coming off as a douchebag. Of course there will be heartbreak, but that's to be expected from a rejection.

Naruto wasnt rejected either.
Hinata seeing Naruto loving Sakura is not a rejection where did you get this?

Umm? Ok.

This part was irrelevant so i deleted.

Naruto: "Sakura-chan, you really like Sasuke huh?"

What are you trying to imply with it?

Edited by narusaku4ver, 04 February 2013 - 12:26 AM.

[luffyq1]

IMO i don't see much of a difference if she sees him with sakura and decides to back off or if he rejects her because of sakura, either way it is still her being denied a reletionship with him and I think whatever feels would come from either of these options would be the same in the end.

So Naruto can read Hinata's thoughts by understanding that she realizes that she won't purse a romantic relationship with him? Damn, that's pretty complicated.

[narulsaku]

are you saying the base of ns depends on sasuke? not on narutos or sakuras feelings.

[narusaku4ver]

are you saying the base of ns depends on sasuke? not on narutos or sakuras feelings.

the wall for NS but not the base.
the base is sakura's feelings but what blocks Naruto is sasuke.

[Zatheko]

So Naruto can read Hinata's thoughts by understanding that she realizes that she won't purse a romantic relationship with him? Damn, that's pretty complicated.

Whaaa? I never implied naruto could read thoughts...

Its a shounen naruto doesnt have to confront her for her feelings, as a side character in all honesty hinatas feelings should not matter in this anime, sounds mean i know but its true. They really don't need closure its the fans that want closure.

also the main point of my first post was that the feeling of rejection will be the same weather naruto himself rejects her or she sees naruto with someone else.

Edited by zatheko, 04 February 2013 - 12:39 AM.

[narusaku4ver]

So Naruto can read Hinata's thoughts by understanding that she realizes that she won't purse a romantic relationship with him? Damn, that's pretty complicated.

I still dont get why are you implying that Naruto is concerned about Hinata's feelings.
When he never showed this, the only person who cared about other's person feelings is Sakura.

There was any necessity of Sai saying that Naruto loves Sakura it wasnt even needed, if Naruto see Sakura again pursuing Sasuke he would not even confess now it cant be undone she knows that Naruto loves her, and she's concerned about Naruto's happiness to a point that she was willing to offer herself to Naruto.

Without Sai saying that "Naruto loves you" Naruto's confession would be pretty much like Obito's ending in a failure because Rin still loved Kakashi and wanst going to force his love into her.

After Rin realized that Obito loved her it wanst even shown that she was pursuing Kakashi their relationship would lead to nowhere romantically speaking off.

Edited by narusaku4ver, 04 February 2013 - 12:40 AM.

[StriderC]

That was me when I woke up. I couldn't decide if I wanted it to be real or not.

LMAO So you had a dream about Naruto and Sakura as well.

TXD

Your avatar looks epic but I can barely tell what's going on. Do you have a bigger one??

[luffyq1]

There will be no resolution Sakura knows that it will hurt Naruto therefore she will not attempt to pursue Sasuke even if Naruto says "it's okay" she have a great concern not about only Naruto's well being but his happiness as well.

Yes, she knows that Naruto is in love with her. But in no way is she obligated to love Naruto back. Naruto has been through the emotional pain of realizing that Sakura is in love with Sasuke. Naruto supports Sakura's happiness. If Sakura wants to purse a relationship with Sakura, it would not be surprising to Naruto at all that she would want that. And all Sakura wants to do is be of use to Naruto. Why in the blazes should she not purse a relationship with Sasuke because it might hurt him? That's like saying Naruto won't pursue a relationship with Sakura because it might hurt Hinata.

Sakura loving Naruto in the end and Naruto saying "i cant accept because i dont want to hurt Hinata's feelings" is a bad joke.
If Hinata's confession is meant to be important to a point that Naruto cant pursue Sakura so i dont believe there will be NS in the end i only see Sasuke as a wall for NS not Hinata.
An open ending without any pairing possibilities.

Yet you only apply that logic to Sakura. You serious?

Naruto wasnt rejected either.

He kinda was. Through watching the way Sakura treats Sasuke, Naruto came to the conclusion that she doesn't feel the same way about him. So that leads him to ask the painful rhetorical question: --Click here to view--

Whaaa? I never implied naruto could read thoughts...

Never said that you did imply it. I was merely breaking down the scenario scene that I think does not make any sense.

Edited by luffyq1, 04 February 2013 - 12:55 AM.

[Zatheko]

Never said that you did imply it. I was merely breaking down the scenario scene that I think does not make any sense.

If you mean that naruto would somehow understand that hinata is fine with him loving sakura or something then ok, but naruto doesn't need to know that hinata is fine with it, hinata is a side character no matter how you look at it her love for naruto in all honesty does not need closure no matter how you look at it, it would be nice for it to be closed yes but that doesnt mean it HAS to.

[narusaku4ver]

Yes, she knows that Naruto is in love with her. But in no way is she obligated to love Naruto back. Naruto has been through the emotional pain of realizing that Sakura is in love with Sasuke. Naruto supports Sakura's happiness. If Sakura wants to purse a relationship with Sakura, it would not be surprising to Naruto at all that she would want that. And all Sakura wants to do is be of use to Naruto. Why in the blazes should she not purse a relationship with Sasuke because it might hurt him? That's like saying Naruto won't pursue a relationship with Sakura because it might hurt Hinata.

Where i'm saying that she's obligated to love Naruto's back?
I'm saying is that she does have a huge concern about Naruto's happiness therefore she cant pursue sasuke.
Hypothetically speaking that she will still love Sasuke.

The bolded.
For the same reason she confessed to Naruto, No it's not.

Naruto never confessed to Sakura because he knew it would become a mess, it would reach the point it's now.

Yet you only apply that logic to Sakura. You serious?

Yes i apply because Sakura is the only one that showed concern about Naruto's feelings, it wasnt show Naruto being concerned about Hinata's feelings it wasnt even the reason why he rejected Sakura's confession.
He was likely going to accept despite being weird until she bought up Sasuke and look that it was right after Hinata's confession.

He kinda was. Through watching the way Sakura treats Sasuke, Naruto came to the conclusion that she doesn't feel the same way about him. So that leads him to ask the painful rhetorical question: --Click here to view--

This is not a rejection he was realized that she loved someome else and if she was happy with him therefore he would not push his love into her, making Sasuke to be a wall for Naruto, and if it continued like this, Naruto would never confess or do something, this is the reason why he didnt pushed it but still he loved her.
This was the point were Naruto could move on but he has not, so why drop now?
Why Sai told sakura that Naruto loved her? ( Sai did what Naruto probably would never do)

Edited by narusaku4ver, 04 February 2013 - 01:05 AM.

[James S Cassidy]

This never ending loop of emotions from NaruHina, NaruSaku, and SasuSaku is getting weird.

At the end of the day someone has to give in. Some one has to stop being stubborn and accept their feelings. Someone is going to get hurt, but if they are a strong character it SHOULDN'T bother them too much.

I may hate Hinata and her character, but from what I have seen, even from her own fans, they see her as being weak-willed and unable to take rejection. I disagree. Even with the hate I have for her, I still respect her character and I know that if Hinata truly loves Naruto she would support the things that make him happy. With or without her. If she doesn't, then she truly is that selfish.

I hold Sakura in the same regard and give the same respect.

[narusaku4ver]

This never ending loop of emotions from NaruHina, NaruSaku, and SasuSaku is getting weird.

At the end of the day someone has to give in. Some one has to stop being stubborn and accept their feelings. Someone is going to get hurt, but if they are a strong character it SHOULDN'T bother them too much.

I may hate Hinata and her character, but from what I have seen, even from her own fans, they see her as being weak-willed and unable to take rejection. I disagree. Even with the hate I have for her, I still respect her character and I know that if Hinata truly loves Naruto she would support the things that make him happy. With or without her. If she doesn't, then she truly is that selfish.

I hold Sakura in the same regard and give the same respect.

Put Ino and Karin on this mess too.

[narulsaku]

yes james i do agree with ya but what if she doesnt let go? can she change narutos thoughts? i am feeling like guilty asking that question so please dont misunderstand me.

[Slextrem]

LMAO So you had a dream about Naruto and Sakura as well.

LOL. Yes sir! It's probably because we spent such a long time recording the podcast right before I went to bed.

[narulsaku]

LOL. Yes sir! It's probably because we spent such a long time recording the podcast right before I went to bed.

oh so how its going? did ya get a comment on them?

[Don-kun]

@luffyq1
I believe he meant that Sakura now knows that Naruto truly loves her and is willing to go to the end of the word for her, so giving the scene where Sasuke is back in the picture it's hard to imagine that Sakura will go running back to him and crush Naruto's heart since she genuinely concern about him as a person, his feelings and wants to see him happy, in other words Naruto will have to tell Sakura that he fall in love with someone else.

@narusaku4ver
You cannot say Sakura will never go back to Sasuke, it's better to say that it's highly unlikeable that she will go back running to Sasuke and crush Naruto's heart, highly unlikeable yes, but never say impossible.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

This never ending loop of emotions from NaruHina, NaruSaku, and SasuSaku is getting weird.

At the end of the day someone has to give in. Some one has to stop being stubborn and accept their feelings. Someone is going to get hurt, but if they are a strong character it SHOULDN'T bother them too much.

I may hate Hinata and her character, but from what I have seen, even from her own fans, they see her as being weak-willed and unable to take rejection. I disagree. Even with the hate I have for her, I still respect her character and I know that if Hinata truly loves Naruto she would support the things that make him happy. With or without her. If she doesn't, then she truly is that selfish.

I hold Sakura in the same regard and give the same respect.

A lot of Hinata's fans confuse me. They constantly preach and admire her, seeing as the goddess of all that is good and pure. Statements like "Hinata's such a strong person! She tries so hard!" are nice and all, yet her extreme fans say things like "Hinata loves Naruto more than her own life! She can't live without him. (I actually saw a comment like that once on YT and it had 30 likes ) That's why she needs to be with him. She deserves him and the happiness they can give each other." You can't have both of these statements and have the same standing argument. They are terribly contradictory. Being needy =\=Being strong. It's either one or the other.

I completely love Naruto & Sakura, but I have never seen either of them being unable to accept rejection or being broken beyond repair if the person they love didn't love them. Naruto's proven to be pained and really, really sad if Sakura god forbid chose Sasuke in the end instead of him. But he'd be okay with it in the end because Sakura would be happy. And with Sakura, she's made it clear she can live without Sasuke as well. She was willing to be the mature one and recognize the reality of Sasuke during the Kage Summit. Plus, she put Naruto's safety above her love for Sasuke. Not to mention she was willing to have Naruto hate her by killing Sasuke so his burden would be lifted and he wouldn't kill himself trying too hard to bring him back. I see a very strong, independent girl here. She's not the complete Sasuke satellite who once screamed to him that without him she would be truly alone and wanted to leave the village with him. I do not see this needy girl some people of the Naruto fandom make her out to be. Reminds me of a fanfic when Sakura screamed at Naruto angrily for putting Sasuke in prison when she loved him. Just.

Hinata ... I'm less sure of. She does revolve entirely around Naruto and her love for him. However, I don't think she would completely give up on life and happiness if Naruto didn't love her. I personally think she would accept whatever happens, it doesn't matter if had her feelings returned or not. That's what 573 meant. Hinata may be needy in always wanting Naruto to notice her or acknowledge her, but she's not that needy. At least, I would hope not.


@naru|saku: If Hinata still loves Naruto at the end and she isn't with him, I will facepalm. Sure I'd be mostly satisfied if she focused more heavily on her heiress role but that's just ... sad. You know Naruto's not gonna ever be with her and if he ends up with Sakura, he'll be with her his entire life until one of them die. Just ... what's the point of having her still have this attachment when it's not going anywhere? Plus, the NH fans would rage at Kishi for making her have these feelings forever and not letting her have him, I will be disappointed because it's unnecessary for her character. Now seeing Naruto as a friend .. will that be her turning point even more.

It's not impossible for Hinata to change his feelings. However, I doubt that will happen because Kishi confirmed Naruto was still in love with Sakura at the time of the Kage Summit (Narutoverse timeline= A few weeks ago). Having him fall for Hinata just because she gave him a pep talk in 615 makes it seem like he's really fickle (which Naruto isn't) and bad writing. Bad writing, as simple as that. Plus, Naruto being consistent in his affections for a whole year in the Naruto timeline only to move on when he doesn't really have a reason to (Can't say Sakura's love for Sasuke. That didn't stop him and he grew to love her even more in Part 2) this late in the series is IMO illogical and random.

[narulsaku]

yes thats also a point. so after ns what ll happen to hinata? or kishi ll kill her before that!