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#9661 narusaku4ver

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 01:17 PM

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Feb 2 2013, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Step 1: Sakura confesses to Sasuke and gets no answer.
Step 2: Hinata confesses to Naruto and gets no answer.
Step 3: Sakura confesses to naruto and gets a weird answer.
Step 4: Naruto confesses to Sakura.
???
Profit.

The difference between Sakura's confessions and Hinata's is that on both of her confession she was expecting a answer it was a real confession on Hinata's case she just declared herself to Naruto but wasnt expecting an answer.

and i disagree with you Sakura got her answer i think you're saying that they werent bought up on later parts, Sakura's confession to Sasuke had an answer but wasnt what she expected.

Edited by narusaku4ver, 02 February 2013 - 01:21 PM.


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Posted 02 February 2013 - 01:20 PM

QUOTE (narusaku4ver @ Feb 3 2013, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The difference between Sakura's confessions and Hinata's is that on both of her confession she was expecting a answer it was a real confession on Hinata's case she just declared herself to Naruto but wasnt expecting an answer.

and i disagree with you Sakura got her answer i think you're saying that they didnt bought up, Sakura's confession to Sasuke had an answer but wasnt what she expected.

ON her confession to Naruto she got the answer she expected Naruto would not accept.

I love you Sasuke kun.

You're annoying. Thank you.


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#9663 narusaku4ver

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 01:24 PM

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Feb 2 2013, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I love you Sasuke kun.

You're annoying. Thank you.

The problem with her confession is that it was never brought up from Sasuke's part and from Sakura only when she tried to kill him .
The thank you words were the same as from Naruto on 615.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 01:33 PM

Honestly, it all goes down to Naruto. Sakura's confession was a fail, but at least she got one respectful word. It's not love, but it's a gratitude. Hinata's confession was not meant to have an answer, rather she wanted him to know that before she dies. Sakura's confession to Naruto was questionable because it's interrupted by Sasuke's talk (go figure). You can call it fail but it's not really a fail in terms of Naruto rejected it because he doesn't love her, rather because he felt something is wrong about Sasuke. Now, it lies on Naruto. Sasuke got nothing and couldn't care less. Naruto, with the idea of solve Sasuke's problem to open doors, is Kishi's excuse to hold on the romance until the end, especially since Sasuke is more likely to become the final battle for Naruto. Plus, from what I heard, it always feel like it's us guys' job to do the confession. After all, it is our job to do the proposal, or at least most case I have seen. Give or take.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 01:54 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Feb 2 2013, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Honestly, it all goes down to Naruto. Sakura's confession was a fail, but at least she got one respectful word. It's not love, but it's a gratitude. Hinata's confession was not meant to have an answer, rather she wanted him to know that before she dies. Sakura's confession to Naruto was questionable because it's interrupted by Sasuke's talk (go figure). You can call it fail but it's not really a fail in terms of Naruto rejected it because he doesn't love her, rather because he felt something is wrong about Sasuke. Now, it lies on Naruto. Sasuke got nothing and couldn't care less. Naruto, with the idea of solve Sasuke's problem to open doors, is Kishi's excuse to hold on the romance until the end, especially since Sasuke is more likely to become the final battle for Naruto. Plus, from what I heard, it always feel like it's us guys' job to do the confession. After all, it is our job to do the proposal, or at least most case I have seen. Give or take.

It wasnt despite Naruto's accepting it at first reaction he knew that something was wrong, something happened for her to confess to Naruto, when she bring up Sasuke then she said he wasnt nothing for her anymore like she severted her bonds with Sasuke then he closed himself there.
He didnt wanted her to cut her bonds with Sasuke like that it wasnt because she really loves him but because of bonds he didnt believed that Sasuke meant nothing for her anymore after her cry in front of that ninjas.
The confession served as a development for Naruto that Sakura wasnt the same girl of part 1 and Naruto cant do the things alone and by herself because it was making Sakura suffer too.

For Sakura it was all the case but the things wasnt the same anymore Sakura now knows that Naruto loves her, if she feels unworthy or not it does not change the fact that he loves her.

I'm not expecting Naruto's confession because if he confess Sakura would accept because of pity or even because she does not want to hurt Naruto, she knows that he really loves her, her confession served that she is willing to accept Naruto's feelings despite loving another man.
Which makes me have the conclusion that what i'm expecting is a interaction of Naruto and Sakura on the final battle and Sakura falling for Naruto after a talk with Naruto.

Edited by narusaku4ver, 02 February 2013 - 02:07 PM.


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Posted 02 February 2013 - 02:10 PM

QUOTE (narusaku4ver @ Feb 2 2013, 08:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It wasnt despite Naruto's accepting it at first reaction he knew that something was wrong, something happened for her to confess to Naruto, when she bring up Sasuke then she said he wasnt nothing for her anymore like she severted her bonds with Sasuke then he closed himself there.
He didnt wanted her to cut her bonds with Sasuke like that it wasnt because she really loves him but because of bonds he didnt believed that Sasuke meant nothing for her anymore after her cry in front of that ninjas.
The confession served as a development for Naruto that Sakura wasnt the same girl of part 1 and Naruto cant do the things alone and by herself because it was making Sakura suffer too.

For Sakura it was all the case but the things wasnt the same anymore Sakura now knows that Naruto loves her, if she feels unworthy or not it does not change the fact that he loves her.

I'm not expecting Naruto's confession because if he confess Sakura would accept because of pity or even because she does not want to hurt Naruto, she knows that he really loves her, her confession served that she is willing to accept Naruto's feelings despite loving another man.
Which makes me have the conclusion that what i'm expecting is a interaction of Naruto and Sakura on the final battle and Sakura falling for Naruto after a talk with Naruto.

The possibility of their next conversation is really plenty. I do wonder how Kishi would handle this. I do feel like he has been trying to avoid this issue as long as he can. We just need to end that battle first before going any further.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 02:32 PM

there is just one answer to all there questions. that is TIME. Time ll answer all of them. all we need to do just be patient and watch.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 02:58 PM

QUOTE (narulsaku @ Feb 2 2013, 02:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
there is just one answer to all there questions. that is TIME. Time ll answer all of them. all we need to do just be patient and watch.

Following this logic so we should not even be here debating at the first place and this thread should be locked because the answer is to wait and see.

Edited by narusaku4ver, 02 February 2013 - 02:58 PM.


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Posted 02 February 2013 - 03:00 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Feb 2 2013, 05:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The possibility of their next conversation is really plenty. I do wonder how Kishi would handle this. I do feel like he has been trying to avoid this issue as long as he can. We just need to end that battle first before going any further.

Kishi seems that he doesn't want to feed NS like he does before. Like he's going to give more to NS but not like before, as in an excessive way. On each event or maybe randomly from time to time.

There's nothing more to build on except for another three or four moments that he can manages without making them together.

Edited by T XD, 02 February 2013 - 03:02 PM.


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Posted 02 February 2013 - 03:12 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Feb 2 2013, 03:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kishi seems that he doesn't want to feed NS like he does before. Like he's going to give more to NS but not like before, as in an excessive way. On each event or maybe randomly from time to time.

There's nothing more to build on except for another three or four moments that he can manages without making them together.

It's not a matter of "he does not want" but a matter of he cant.
Why on blazes after a NH moment he always push off, the same with SS, when Sakura hugged Sasuke on that part 1 we never seen the outcome of that, he simply pretend that nothing happened and even Sasuke still was arrogant and called her annoying.
this stuff never happened with NS, he just avoid to see the outcome of it.

Even the handholding, he was talking with Kurama about changing chakra and the ability at all never was to meant something important from his part, the outcome of that was only to Hinata not even to Naruto.

The last hope of SS is NH happening they cant even deny it, they may say Sasuke coming back but they forgot that Sakura now knows that Naruto loves her, if she has to be with Sasuke, Naruto has to move on.

Edited by narusaku4ver, 02 February 2013 - 03:15 PM.


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Posted 02 February 2013 - 03:20 PM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Feb 2 2013, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Speaking of Chikara, I really get the feeling that Naruto will actually propose somehow in the middle of battle later. Either the Sasuke battle or the one against either Madara or Orochimaru. That'd almost top Ed's proposal in FMA IMO.


Talking about unworthy, undeserved, guilty, or whatsoever, something came into my mind, a proposal/confession scene like,

(every shinobi in the middle of war, jumping around, fighting, punching, attacking, but there's one scene of Sakura and Naruto side by side, yelling at each other so they can hear each other words)

Naruto: Sakura-chan! Stay away from here! It's dangerous!
Sakura: Stop worrying me!
Naruto: I know, but--
Sakura: I know I always did smallest thing to you, I can't help you, I'm useless. But it's not the right time for me to be such a damsel in distress and being someone who always got protected. I know I'm not good enough for you. But this time, no matter what you say, let me help you to fight all this enemy. I'm kunoichi too, even I'm not the strongest!
Naruto: *pulling his hand to Sakura*
Sakura: Whaa--
Naruto: You're good enough to me
Sakura: What? I can't hear you! *jumping from big stone*
Naruto: *take Sakura to somewhere save like behind a big stone*
Sakura: Naruto, what are you--
Naruto: You are good enough for me
Sakura: ...
Naruto: No. You're more than what could I ask for. You're not useless or any crap you just said
BOOOMM!
Naruto: We'll continue this conversation later
Sakura: Baka. Make sure that you, we, will remain alive after this war end. Promise?
Naruto: *kiss Sakura's forehead, quicky* Promise of a lifetime

wub.gif hahahaa, sometimes I love being a fanfiction author sleep.gif forgive my wild imagination

Edited by Heaven on Earth, 02 February 2013 - 03:20 PM.


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Posted 02 February 2013 - 03:21 PM

QUOTE (narusaku4ver @ Feb 2 2013, 06:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's not a matter of "he does not want" but a matter of he cant.
Why on blazes after a NH moment he always push off, the same with SS, when Sakura hugged Sasuke on that part 1 we never seen the outcome of that, he simply pretend that nothing happened and even Sasuke still was arrogant and called her annoying.
this stuff never happened with NS, he just avoid to see the outcome of it.

Even the handholding, he was talking with Kurama about changing chakra and the ability at all never was to meant something important from his part, the outcome of that was only to Hinata not even to Naruto.

The last hope of SS is NH happening they cant even deny it, they may say Sasuke coming back but they forgot that Sakura now knows that Naruto loves her, if she has to be with Sasuke, Naruto has to move on.

I wasn't talking about the outcomes of the moments. I was talking what possibly Kishi is thinking in regard of the NS moments that he's going to do in the future, and that maybe too, not in the same amount as before since it has already a strong base XD

QUOTE (Heaven on Earth @ Feb 2 2013, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Talking about unworthy, undeserved, guilty, or whatsoever, something came into my mind, a proposal/confession scene like,

(every shinobi in the middle of war, jumping around, fighting, punching, attacking, but there's one scene of Sakura and Naruto side by side, yelling at each other so they can hear each other words)

Naruto: Sakura-chan! Stay away from here! It's dangerous!
Sakura: Stop worrying me!
Naruto: I know, but--
Sakura: I know I always did smallest thing to you, I can't help you, I'm useless. But it's not the right time for me to be such a damsel in distress and being someone who always got protected. I know I'm not good enough for you. But this time, no matter what you say, let me help you to fight all this enemy. I'm kunoichi too, even I'm not the strongest!
Naruto: *pulling his hand to Sakura*
Sakura: Whaa--
Naruto: You're good enough to me
Sakura: What? I can't hear you! *jumping from big stone*
Naruto: *take Sakura to somewhere save like behind a big stone*
Sakura: Naruto, what are you--
Naruto: You are good enough for me
Sakura: ...
Naruto: No. You're more than what could I ask for. You're not useless or any crap you just said
BOOOMM!
Naruto: We'll continue this conversation later
Sakura: Baka. Make sure that you, we, will remain alive after this war end. Promise?
Naruto: *kiss Sakura's forehead, quicky* Promise of a lifetime

wub.gif hahahaa, sometimes I love being a fanfiction author sleep.gif forgive my wild imagination

That was such a romantic scene. Too much feelings wub.gif

Edited by T XD, 02 February 2013 - 03:25 PM.


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Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:13 PM

@narusaku4ver
what haha i didnt mean that. just kidding. how could you possibly think that just wait and watch. then we didnt even need a fanclub.and heaven on earth you can be a writer if you dont have a wild imagination. i loved the idea . i think kishi should do the same that will make sure ns. i would like to finish it. (naruto finishes the battle he becomes very badly injured.near to death after obito sacrifises himself. naruto falls down and lays on the ground quitely and closing his eyes he says if he could say sakura that how much he loves her. sakura hears that standing near him and goes to him and kisses him . how was that i know i know it doer suck . i was never good at fics ahh.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:37 PM

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You're 14???? The way you speak makes you seem...older. Wow.

Heey dont underestimate us! I just turned 15 on jan 31st, lol we're pertty sharp :cool:

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Heey dont underestimate us! I just turned 15 on jan 31st, lol we're pertty sharp :cool:


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Posted 02 February 2013 - 05:02 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Feb 1 2013, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In other words he's saying that Naruto's feelings for his love interest may shift (meaning he will stop loving Sakura and start loving Hinata). Obviously he's a NH fan and I find his theory biased. I think it's BS that he's coming up with such a theory when there's NOT a single trace of evidence in the manga that indicates Naruto changing his feelings for Sakura and falling for Hinata out of the blue. I haven't seen a single panel that he's thinking of her in a romantic light, Naruto made it VERY CLEAR who he loves back at ch 3. Why do NH fans have to always check for impossible evidence that isn't in the manga to come up with their theories that Naruto no longer loves Sakura??? He made it clear what his feelings for Hinata stand for after her confession from 437 when he didn't even bother to check up on her after he return to Konoha from defeating Pain. Then Kishi made it even clearer with 565 when he saved her and thanked her for saving him when he was about to be taken by Pain (he NEVER brought up her confession, that's enough to say that he's not interested in her that way). Then there's 616 which it was" supposed" to be the chapter to make NH canon, NOT a single thought from Naruto when he hold her hand that he was seeing her in a romantic light (he just took her hand, gave her chakra and let her hand go that's it).

Dear God it looks like the only way solve this problem with NH fans is for Kishi to remind us in every chapter who Naruto loves. In every chapter he will have to make Naruto think about Sakura thinking if she was all right or saying" where's Sakura-chan?" or calling out to her. If he does that it will get annoying, even as a NS fan I have my limits and if I ever see Naruto acting like that then my respect for him will vanish. Because if he does act like that, then he'll be no better than Hinata (who has Naruto in her brain 24/7). Kishi has made it clear, he has done the devleopment and he has shown it through hints and parallels who Naruto loves. The day I see Naruto blushing at Hinata and acting like a complete goofball in front of her, then that's the day Kishi has troll the NS fandom and turn his manga into a pile of sh**.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 05:17 PM

A bit off topic, but I've been sort of brainstorming/pondering lately.

I honestly think NH is impossible at this point. Maybe back in the Pein arc, if Kishi wanted to, he could have easily developed it. But it's too late now. Why?

If Kishi were to make NH canon, he not only has to address the fact of Naruto having feelings for Hinata, but also the fact of Naruto not having feelings for Sakura anymore. Seriously, I absolutely can't see that happening.

Another point is that if he truly wanted NH to be canon, he wouldn't have made a huge movie with Naruto having feelings for Sakura. Sure, you can argue that he was just being nice to the NS fans, but honestly, do people actually think he would waste a whole movie teasing a ship that would never be canon?

Perhaps RtN was his way of compensating for the future of the manga; in a way, telling NS/Sakura fans to hold on and wait for their moments.

Edited by swagosaurus, 02 February 2013 - 05:19 PM.



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Posted 02 February 2013 - 05:27 PM

QUOTE (swagosaurus @ Feb 2 2013, 12:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A bit off topic, but I've been sort of brainstorming/pondering lately.

I honestly think NH is impossible at this point. Maybe back in the Pein arc, if Kishi wanted to, he could have easily developed it. But it's too late now. Why?

If Kishi were to make NH canon, he not only has to address the fact of Naruto having feelings for Hinata, but also the fact of Naruto not having feelings for Sakura anymore. Seriously, I absolutely can't see that happening.

Another point is that if he truly wanted NH to be canon, he wouldn't have made a huge movie with Naruto having feelings for Sakura. Sure, you can argue that he was just being nice to the NS fans, but honestly, do people actually think he would waste a whole movie teasing a ship that would never be canon?

Perhaps RtN was his way of compensating for the future of the manga; in a way, telling NS/Sakura fans to hold on and wait for their moments.


And this is why I'm not worried at all about NS at this point (and probably why the NS fandom in Japan isn't either). The only thing I'm concerned for right now is Sakura getting more development with this war, and how Kishi actually PLANS on having NS happen (he can do it in a lot of ways, but that confession definitely needs to be brought up again).

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 05:37 PM

QUOTE (swagosaurus @ Feb 2 2013, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A bit off topic, but I've been sort of brainstorming/pondering lately.

I honestly think NH is impossible at this point. Maybe back in the Pein arc, if Kishi wanted to, he could have easily developed it. But it's too late now. Why?

If Kishi were to make NH canon, he not only has to address the fact of Naruto having feelings for Hinata, but also the fact of Naruto not having feelings for Sakura anymore. Seriously, I absolutely can't see that happening.

Another point is that if he truly wanted NH to be canon, he wouldn't have made a huge movie with Naruto having feelings for Sakura. Sure, you can argue that he was just being nice to the NS fans, but honestly, do people actually think he would waste a whole movie teasing a ship that would never be canon?

Perhaps RtN was his way of compensating for the future of the manga; in a way, telling NS/Sakura fans to hold on and wait for their moments.

Yeah exactly i agree with you man.

Hey guys about that NS event in japan on march, like will it be on the internet or an actual event like, during the cberry blossom festival that takes place in japan, in march on sakuras b-day (oh kishi, youuu) like will it be in person or what? And what arebthey gonna do? Are they gonna invite kishi? Lol or maybe a ns eveny in the manga will happen hhhm a girl can dream right?

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 05:43 PM

QUOTE (Canadian_DJ @ Feb 2 2013, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah exactly i agree with you man.

Hey guys about that NS event in japan on march, like will it be on the internet or an actual event like, during the cberry blossom festival that takes place in japan, in march on sakuras b-day (oh kishi, youuu) like will it be in person or what? And what arebthey gonna do? Are they gonna invite kishi? Lol or maybe a ns eveny in the manga will happen hhhm a girl can dream right?

It will be an event in Japan, and in March from what I remember. I don't know if they're going to invite Kishi, but IMO, I think they will.
Maybe a NS moment in the manga in March, or Sakura doing a major role... cause I don't think he'll do a NS event in the manga, like a chapter laugh.gif

Edited by T XD, 02 February 2013 - 05:44 PM.





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