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[narusaku4ver]

@kirabook

Just think about what Sakura said: "He's a fool to love someone like me". Think about it through your perspective. If you thought that about a guy what would it mean towards you.

This is the same as Sakura saying "Why love me, of all people? I'm the last one you should be giving this kind of affection, you fool."

At the very least Sakura feels that Naruto is better off loving someone other than her. She feels she's not the right person for Naruto, that she won't give him the best happiness given the way she believes she made him suffer. That's why she thinks he's a fool for loving her.

It's not that Sakura feels unworthy because she believes she's the scum of the earth, she feels unworthy because she believes there are better options for Naruto than her and she believes Naruto deserves the best.

Yeah.
therefore it lifted Naruto's burden and kishi didnt pushed it because i believe it will be bought again, Sakura's smilling and after her knowing about Naruto's love towards her she become even more gentle to him, when they come back she give that smile, 573 with we will gonna be together for me it's the first time that she showed intentions on being side by side with Naruto it didnt bought up again, but because of this she wants to "prove" something to Naruto.
Naruto making Sakura realize that "it's not like that" may will be how NS will be canon without "pity" or because Sasuke wasnt there.

Edited by narusaku4ver, 02 February 2013 - 01:01 AM.

[Don-kun]

@narusaku4ver
Wow just wow, the explanation you gave us regarding that scene is quite accurate my friend that is how I also saw it, Sakura will not think better about herself when it comes to Naruto until Naruto address that issue with her.
We see all these curve balls Kishi throw at the readers when it comes to the love aspect of the Manga, but you cannot have Sakura showing something more than friendship towards Naruto, understanding and want to help him more than anyone else, Naruto showing the readers that so far Sakura is the only person he sees in a romantic light plus many other stuff NaruSaku have in his favor to end the Manga with Naruto hooking up with someone who never saw him the same way Sakura did, plus the worst part is when the only thing that draws that person to Naruto is her admiration and romantic feeling towards him, but zero concern about Naruto as a person, his problems, his feelings and others stuff.

The pairing is so simple and worst this being a Shōnen manga, I guess pairing preference block other from the obvious.

Side Note: Are you narusaku4ver from NF?

[swagosaurus]

Yeah, to me it seems like it's mainly guilt that drove her to do all those things, along with a pinch of unworthiness. This all leads to something I've come to think about and believe.

I honestly think that Sakura is in love with Naruto, but isn't particularly aware of it. Yamato's speech is probably the biggest piece of evidence towards this theory. She could very well be in love with Sasuke as well, but her feelings for him are kinda...meh, at best. Her feelings for Sasuke never drive her to do drastic things (cough running at the kyuubi cough).

If you all remember, it took Sai, an emotionless, socially inept person, for her to realize Naruto loves her. It's almost like she's as dense as Naruto is when it comes to that kind of stuff.

[Don-kun]

Yeah, to me it seems like it's mainly guilt that drove her to do all those things, along with a pinch of unworthiness. This all leads to something I've come to think about and believe.

I honestly think that Sakura is in love with Naruto, but isn't particularly aware of it. Yamato's speech is probably the biggest piece of evidence towards this theory. She could very well be in love with Sasuke as well, but her feelings for him are kinda...meh, at best. Her feelings for Sasuke never drive her to do drastic things (cough running at the kyuubi cough).

If you all remember, it took Sai, an emotionless, socially inept person, for her to realize Naruto loves her. It's almost like she's as dense as Naruto is when it comes to that kind of stuff.

I disagree with this statement so much, to me this is a reason why people bash Sakura in an unfair way when she doesn't deserve it.

Sakura likes Naruto, loves him is another question since it has only being speculated but not affirmed by her apart from her confession.
The thing with Naruto is that after the Poal and the destroyed look he saw on her when he failed to bring back Sasuke he created an emotional wall, since part two Sakura has being the one making the push (245, 261, 297, the feeding scene, 450 and confession are example of Sakura trying to get closer to Naruto) but the way he behave perhaps block her mind of the possibility that Naruto really likes her, is more like her believing that Naruto always teasing her plus the fact that he has proven in many occasions that he support her love for Sasuke while he always try to encourage her to keep believing in Sasuke.

Reason why Sai knew Naruto perhaps loves Sakura in on serious manner was the fact that after Sakura was away the mask he wore fall off allowing Sai to ask him based on his body language, the fact that Naruto was very surprise/ freakout that Sai was able to notice his feelings for Sakura tell the readers that it's something he tries to keep to himself. With Sakura it took her to remember those words he used on the Poal when, he told her he can tell how she feels since he feels the same way, those specific words is what allow Sakura to understand that she was really hurting Naruto when she ask him to bring back Sasuke to her.

Many readers try to use the excuse that if Sakura his own teammate didn't know how Naruto feels about her how can we expect Hinata, the difference is obvious, Naruto tries to hide the fact that he loves her from her.


About Hinata, the reason why I believe that she will stop chasing Naruto, is the fact that many of the Rookies find out how Naruto felt towards Sakura via Sai, something that might be addressed in future chapters.

Edited by Don-kun, 02 February 2013 - 03:25 AM.

[narulsaku]

@selextream , Qia , mangareader you dont know about xxromance girlxx. you should read her fics. i wont be surprised if you ll rate it 11 of 10. you know what she was the one at whom i was jellous for the first time in my 16 years life. not now though. haha.

[Qia]

@selextream , Qia , mangareader you dont know about xxromance girlxx. you should read her fics. i wont be surprised if you ll rate it 11 of 10. you know what she was the one at whom i was jellous for the first time in my 16 years life. not now though. haha.

I'll keep that in mind.

And about Sakura's confession:

here --Click here to view--

I think Sai might have unintentionally made it worse here.

Guys...what do you think about this though? Because I don't think Sakura ever actually gave a reason for deciding to kill Sasuke, did she? Do you think this is one of the reasons or the only one? Or if it's one of her motivations at all? It just seems so backwards, to me, that she would suddenly want to kill him because she loves him so much, when she's never expressed these thoughts of killing him before even though her feelings would have been there all this time. That's one thing I don't understand...and I can't remember if someone ever explained this par o.0 (about her killing Sasuke because she loves him).

Edited by Qia, 02 February 2013 - 04:53 AM.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

guys, what do you think about this?

http://araitsume.tum...arutos-feelings

Well ... this person seems a lot more respectful and open-minded than a lot of the other NaruHina fans I've seen and at least he/she isn't claiming for a fact that he/she's right on this. But under the big words and the detail of his entry, I see many of the problems many NaruHina fans seem to fall under the category of. Not surprising, he/she's still NaruHina biased. Of course a similiar argument would be surmised.

Lingering feelings? That is just biasness, Sai bluntly said "Even I can can tell that Naruto really loves you!" He didn't say "Oh, Naruto has some slight feelings for you." It is true realistically that it didn't imply Naruto didn't feel anything for Hinata romantically but this long-time "The flashback was before the Hinata's confession" argument is so weak. Why would Naruto's feelings change into confusion or romantic that easily? Because Hinata confessed? Okay. Does a confession truly merit a change in feelings? Maybe her "heroic sacrifice" but that just makes him seem shallow. "Oh she tried to save me, I don't know what I feel for her now!" That's what I don't understand. Naruto doesn't have to love Hinata. Yet so many people expect him to because of Hinata's love for him. They put too many expectations on him and I hate how Naruto has to come off as a trophy to a side character's happiness. Do they really have that great of a lack of respect for him and his wishes? I may sometimes not seem like this, but I don't see Naruto or Sakura as a trophy to another. I see two characters being happy together and fulfilled, what they both deserve. And my #1 favorite character being reduced to a tool for Hinata "to be happy and get all that she wishes" deeply offends me and I take that as insult to him. Naruto is NOT a trophy for Hinata, he's a person with his own feelings. If he doesn't love Hinata and they end up calling him an jerk or a bastard for rejecting her feelings, then it proves to me that they don't actually respect him as a character and did indeed see him as "a tool for the Hyuga princess's ever-lasting happiness". I say this because so many of them focusly wholly on Hinata's "pure and unconditional" love.

A 504/505 reference? Well, I think it makes perfect sense for Kishi to not say out loud what Naruto was thinking of over a girl. It was already implied it could possibly be NS foreshadowing: "Don't fall for a weirdo ... find someone like me!" And if it was confirmed that easily, the pairing drama isn't as suspenseful. It's very obvious IMO that Kishimoto is toying with the NH fans through 614/615, only to troll them in 616. Somehow I feel like he gets some sick enjoyment out of that. Basically, this late in the series, confirming Naruto's love for Sakura then would probably have NS cemented as the end game for good. And a lot of NH fans would rage-quit, so I'm sure he doesn't want that. Seriously, where on Earth is this "Naruto is confused" theory coming from? Honestly, I feel like facepalming every time I see it. Naruto? The never-give up, usually confident Naruto is the one confused here? Gee, guess I missed the confirmation panel. Let me go back and search the entire manga for it ... say, was it chapter zero? /sarcasm

Okay. Poking fun at it aside, my open-minded side forces me to admit it is not impossible. It's Kishi's story, he can do anything. But is there any proof of all he's confused over the nature of his feelings? No, not at all! In fact, it implies the opposite. Slexstrem pulled the panels out already. Naruto was shown being pained that Sakura was crying over Sasuke being in the Akatsuki, his quick protection of her when she got hit by Omoi, and how during that entire time of Karui and the others yelling at him over Sasuke, he stood behind Sakura, kneeling on the ground and almost holding her. I fangirl at that moment ... I'm sorry. . It clearly indicated he still sees her as more than a friend at the point in time, not that he was confused.

I always love when NaruHina fans pull out the confession as anti-NS or pro-Naruto confused, especially given my long-standing analysis over it. There is nothing that supports him either being over her and not knowing what he feels. The confession completely confirmed that Naruto did indeed fall in love with Sakura and still loved her then. It should be a well-known fact not up for debate, if it wasn't for many stubborn NaruHina fans that refuses to see what's right in front of them (Not bashing. Just saying how ludicrous I think it is for Naruto's feelings to be a question mark during the Kage Summit). Naruto's original expression was not supporting confusion: it was supporting a dumbstruck shock that she was actually saying this and a hopefulness to it, complete with blush. Again, if he was confused over his feelings, Naruto would not have gotten angry with her for doing this. He thought she was lying but instead of being calm over it, he was very mad and hurt by this "lie". It was was clear with his quote: "Stop it, Sakura-chan! I told you, this joke isn't funny!". It can't be argued that it was because she was trying to make him give up on Sasuke, he said that angrily when she was telling him why she supposedly loved him, why Sasuke was no longer an option, and he interrupted her when she was about to tell him she loved him again (" Naruto, from the bottom of my heart, I-"). This theory of Naruto not knowing if he loves Sakura anymore is moot. He couldn't of made it more clearer that he truly loved her through his reactions unless he had said it himself. In this case, reading Naruto's reaction was how we know he loves her, not through words like "I love you".

I also love how this person says stuff like "fondness" or "lingering affection" for Sakura instead of "love". Seriously, is him loving Sakura at one point or another that hard to accept? The NH line "I like people like you" and "I hate people who lie to themselves" NS one are kinda on the same cloth. With Hinata, he wasn't saying he liked liked her, he was saying he liked kind people like her. With Sakura he never said he hated her, he was saying he hated people who lied to themselves. Basically, Naruto was being very rude then (and hypocritical) because he was angry and confused. That's what brought it on. Again with the 6-tails argument. Is this person really suggesting that Hinata is so much more important to him than Sakura, Iruka, Kakashi, and Jiraiya? Really? Compared to those people, Naruto barely knows her.

While it's not impossible to say it could be building up to NH end game as this was definitely one of it's big moments, I cannot stress enough how ridiculous it is to try and magnify Hinata's importance just because it's "Hinata". She is not one of his main bonds, she's not someone he's so massively close to. Fond of her he is and seeing herself throw her life away like that would definitely be hard, but Hinata isn't the most important person to him ever. That's what that person's coming off as. And that's just. How is it a weak argument? Naruto was under so much stress and doubts and grief, it's really no wonder Hinata's suicide attempt created that reaction. If that was Sakura, it would've been 7 or 8 tails instead of 6. I'm sure of it and it wouldn't be to her complete credit either. The reason why I can't buy that is because of Naruto's completely platonic feelings for her throughout that entire time. Is he that fickle enough to love Hinata just because she supports him (Which, again, doesn't make her special. Many others support him too, including Sakura) and did a kamikaze attack? If anything, Naruto being confused over his feelings for Hinata shows like he feels like he should love her out of obligation or worry for hurting her feelings, not that he truly likes her like that. He showed no sign of this before, why start now?

Really, where is this "Naruto's confused over what he feels for Hinata" coming from? This is like the main point of the argument and has no solid proof for it at all. Really, he hasn't treated her differently. Not at all. None. This so-called "inner conflict" over who he actually loves is pointless when we have no proof of it. All we have seen so far is his love for Sakura being confirmed in 469/470 (Which was roughly, a few weeks ago in the Narutoverse timeline) and gratitude to Hinata/comradeship. And Hinata's increased appearances that interact with Naruto? Very possibly her development. Plus, didn't Kishi say this is the arc of the side characters? Makes sense for it to be Hinata developing.

I find it ironic that this person claims that Naruto is the one re-evaluating his feelings with weak support. Naruto can totally move on from Sakura despite his lack of confusion or reasons, while Sakura will be the one still loving Sasuke at the end ... a criminal. Something is wrong with this picture here. We can at least claim Sakura's the one confused over her feelings for him because the Third Databook confirmed it. It's not like we're saying BS when Kishi practically threw in our faces, even going over her physical attraction to him after the Time-skip and touching on the emotional suffering she felt during the Tenchi Bridge. Granted it's outdated, but it's weird that he writes her confused over her true feelings for Naruto, only to realize she truly loves Sasuke the most and always will. It's completely unneccessary if that was the case. Now, if the next databook says Naruto's conflicted, then okay: I'll eat my words. But we don't have that yet and I don't think we will.

There's one particularly glaring trait I've noticed about a lot of the NaruHina fandom. Almost of all of the NS fans here state freely and easily that Sakura still loves Sasuke, but she loves Naruto too. Yet every NaruHina fan I've come across say the opposite: "Naruto has feelings for Hinata. Naruto is in love with Hinata, it's obvious! What?! Naruto doesn't love Sakura anymore, he likes Hinata now. Are you in denial? Naruto never loved Sakura (the extreme case. I've had quite a few say that to me on YT)." Unlike us, it's rarely "Naruto loves both Hinata and Sakura, but he'll chose Hinata." Makes me wonder if it's so hard to say he loves Sakura but will chose Hinata because their that worried about their OTP. That loud confidence and aggressiveness might be a front for some. It's always he loves Hinata not Sakura, never both. Hell, even the SS fandom suffers from this. They rarely say "Sakura loves Naruto and Sasuke, but she will chose Sasuke." Just she loves Sasuke, never Naruto. It really makes me wonder, y'know.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 02 February 2013 - 04:41 AM.

[Qia]

Lingering feelings? That is just biasness, Sai bluntly said "Even I can can tell that Naruto really loves you!" He didn't say "Oh, Naruto has some slight feelings for you." It is true realistically that it didn't imply Naruto didn't feel anything for Hinata romantically but this long-time "The flashback was before the Hinata's confession" argument is so weak. Why would Naruto's feelings change into confusion or romantic that easily? Because Hinata confessed? Okay. Does a confession truly merit a change in feelings? Maybe her "heroic sacrifice" but that just makes him seem shallow. "Oh she tried to save me, I don't know what I feel for her now!" That's what I don't understand. Naruto doesn't have to love Hinata. Yet so many people expect him to because of Hinata's love for him. They put too many expectations on him and I hate how Naruto has to come off as a trophy to a side character's happiness. Do they really have that great of a lack of respect for him and his wishes? I may sometimes not seem like this, but I don't see Naruto or Sakura as a trophy to another. I see two characters being happy together and fulfilled, what they both deserve. And my #1 favorite character being reduced to a tool for Hinata "to be happy and get all that she wishes" deeply offends me and I take that as insult to him. Naruto is NOT a trophy for Hinata, he's a person with his own feelings. If he doesn't love Hinata and they end up calling him an jerk or a bastard for rejecting her feelings, then it proves to me that they don't actually respect him as a character and did indeed see him as "a tool for the Hyuga princess's ever-lasting happiness". I say this because so many of them focusly wholly on Hinata's "pure and unconditional" love.

A 504/505 reference? Well, I think it makes perfect sense for Kishi to not say out loud what Naruto was thinking of over a girl. It was already implied it could possibly be NS foreshadowing: "Don't fall for a weirdo ... find someone like me!" And if it was confirmed that easily, the pairing drama isn't as suspenseful. It's very obvious IMO that Kishimoto is toying with the NH fans through 614/615, only to troll them in 616. Somehow I feel like he gets some sick enjoyment out of that. Basically, this late in the series, confirming Naruto's love for Sakura then would probably have NS cemented as the end game for good. And a lot of NH fans would rage-quit, so I'm sure he doesn't want that. Seriously, where on Earth is this "Naruto is confused" theory coming from? Honestly, I feel like facepalming every time I see it. Naruto? The never-give up, usually confident Naruto is the one confused here? Gee, guess I missed the confirmation panel. Let me go back and search the entire manga for it ... say, was it chapter zero? /sarcasm

Okay. Poking fun at it aside, my open-minded side forces me to admit it is not impossible. It's Kishi's story, he can do anything. But is there any proof of all he's confused over the nature of his feelings? No, not at all! In fact, it implies the opposite. Slexstrem pulled the panels out already. Naruto was shown being pained that Sakura was crying over Sasuke being in the Akatsuki, his quick protection of her when she got hit by Omoi, and how during that entire time of Karui and the others yelling at him over Sasuke, he stood behind Sakura, kneeling on the ground and almost holding her. I fangirl at that moment ... I'm sorry. . It clearly indicated he still sees her as more than a friend at the point in time, not that he was confused.

I always love when NaruHina fans pull out the confession as anti-NS or pro-Naruto confused, especially given my long-standing analysis over it. There is nothing that supports him either being over her and not knowing what he feels. The confession completely confirmed that Naruto did indeed fall in love with Sakura and still loved her then. It should be a well-known fact not up for debate, if it wasn't for many stubborn NaruHina fans that refuses to see what's right in front of them (Not bashing. Just saying how ludicrous I think it is for Naruto's feelings to be a question mark during the Kage Summit). Naruto's original expression was not supporting confusion: it was supporting a dumbstruck shock that she was actually saying this and a hopefulness to it, complete with blush. Again, if he was confused over his feelings, Naruto would not have gotten angry with her for doing this. He thought she was lying but instead of being calm over it, he was very mad and hurt by this "lie". It was was clear with his quote: "Stop it, Sakura-chan! I told you, this joke isn't funny!". It can't be argued that it was because she was trying to make him give up on Sasuke, he said that angrily when she was telling him why she supposedly loved him, why Sasuke was no longer an option, and he interrupted her when she was about to tell him she loved him again (" Naruto, from the bottom of my heart, I-"). This theory of Naruto not knowing if he loves Sakura anymore is moot. He couldn't of made it more clearer that he truly loved her through his reactions unless he had said it himself. In this case, reading Naruto's reaction was how we know he loves her, not through words like "I love you".

I also love how this person says stuff like "fondness" or "lingering affection" for Sakura instead of "love". Seriously, is him loving Sakura at one point or another that hard to accept? The NH line "I like people like you" and "I hate people who lie to themselves" NS one are kinda on the same cloth. With Hinata, he wasn't saying he liked liked her, he was saying he liked kind people like her. With Sakura he never said he hated her, he was saying he hated people who lied to themselves. Basically, Naruto was being very rude then (and hypocritical) because he was angry and confused. That's what brought it on. Again with the 6-tails argument. Is this person really suggesting that Hinata is so much more important to him than Sakura, Iruka, Kakashi, and Jiraiya? Really? Compared to those people, Naruto barely knows her.

While it's not impossible to say it could be building up to NH end game as this was definitely one of it's big moments, I cannot stress enough how ridiculous it is to try and magnify Hinata's importance just because it's "Hinata". She is not one of his main bonds, she's not someone he's so massively close to. Fond of her he is and seeing herself throw her life away like that would definitely be hard, but Hinata isn't the most important person to him ever. That's what that person's coming off as. And that's just. How is it a weak argument? Naruto was under so much stress and doubts and grief, it's really no wonder Hinata's suicide attempt created that reaction. If that was Sakura, it would've been 7 or 8 tails instead of 6. I'm sure of it and it wouldn't be to her complete credit either. The reason why I can't buy that is because of Naruto's completely platonic feelings for her throughout that entire time. Is he that fickle enough to love Hinata just because she supports him (Which, again, doesn't make her special. Many others support him too, including Sakura) and did a kamikaze attack? If anything, Naruto being confused over his feelings for Hinata shows like he feels like he should love her out of obligation or worry for hurting her feelings, not that he truly likes her like that. He showed no sign of this before, why start now?

Really, where is this "Naruto's confused over what he feels for Hinata" coming from? This is like the main point of the argument and has no solid proof for it at all. Really, he hasn't treated her differently. Not at all. None. This so-called "inner conflict" over who he actually loves is pointless when we have no proof of it. All we have seen so far is his love for Sakura being confirmed in 469/470 (Which was roughly, a few weeks ago in the Narutoverse timeline) and gratitude to Hinata/comradeship. And Hinata's increased appearances that interact with Naruto? Very possibly her development. Plus, didn't Kishi say this is the arc of the side characters? Makes sense for it to be Hinata developing.

I find it ironic that this person claims that Naruto is the one re-evaluating his feelings with weak support. Naruto can totally move on from Sakura despite his lack of confusion or reasons, while Sakura will be the one still loving Sasuke at the end ... a criminal. Something is wrong with this picture here. We can at least claim Sakura's the one confused over her feelings for him because the Third Databook confirmed it. It's not like we're saying BS when Kishi practically threw it in our faces, even going over her physical attraction to him after the Time-skip and touching on the emotional suffering she felt during the Tenchi Bridge. Granted it's outdated, but it's weird that he writes her confused over her true feelings for Naruto, only to realize she truly loves Sasuke the most and always will. It's completely unnecessary if that was the case. Now, if the next databook says Naruto's conflicted, then okay: I'll eat my words. But we don't have that yet and I don't think we will.

There's one particularly glaring trait I've noticed about a lot of the NaruHina fandom. Almost of all of the NS fans here state freely and easily that Sakura still loves Sasuke, but she loves Naruto too. Yet every NaruHina fan I've come across say the opposite: "Naruto has feelings for Hinata. Naruto is in love with Hinata, it's obvious! What?! Naruto doesn't love Sakura anymore, he likes Hinata now. Are you in denial? Naruto never loved Sakura (the extreme case. I've had quite a few say that to me on YT)." Unlike us, it's rarely "Naruto loves both Hinata and Sakura, but he'll chose Hinata." Makes me wonder if it's so hard to say he loves Sakura but will chose Hinata because their that worried about their OTP. That loud confidence and aggressiveness might be a front for some. It's always he loves Hinata not Sakura, never both. Hell, even the SS fandom suffers from this. They rarely say "Sakura loves Naruto and Sasuke, but she will chose Sasuke." Just she loves Sasuke, never Naruto. It really makes me wonder, y'know.

Excellent post, as expected RomanceG

[FoolishYoungling]

@xxRomanceGirlxx: You're not 14. Not with post like these coming from you everyday.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

@xxRomanceGirlxx: You're not 14. Not with post like these coming from you everyday.

Yet somehow I am.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 02 February 2013 - 05:07 AM.

[redragon88]

I'll keep that in mind.

And about Sakura's confession:

here --Click here to view--

I think Sai might have unintentionally made it worse here.

Guys...what do you think about this though? Because I don't think Sakura ever actually gave a reason for deciding to kill Sasuke, did she? Do you think this is one of the reasons or the only one? Or if it's one of her motivations at all? It just seems so backwards, to me, that she would suddenly want to kill him because she loves him so much, when she's never expressed these thoughts of killing him before even though her feelings would have been there all this time. That's one thing I don't understand...and I can't remember if someone ever explained this par o.0 (about her killing Sasuke because she loves him).

See it this way, Sai says that Sakura wants to save Sasuke from a life of evil because she loves him, so even if that means she has to kill him she will. That implies that killing Sasuke has always been Sakura's last resort in case the situation became too much.

Thanks to Naruto giving her hope she has never thought about resorting to it, but now with Sai telling her Naruto is in pain because of it makes her reevaluate the situation at hand. She has two options:

1) Let Naruto continue to reach Sasuke and hope for a good end, but at the expense of Naruto suffering.
2) Finally kill Sasuke to end it all, and take away Naruto's suffering.

She chose to go to the last resort (killing Sasuke) because she couldn't bear to see Naruto suffer one minute longer. Sai simply explained that the resolution of Sakura's love was enough for her to kill Sasuke, but the reason she decided to do so now was because she realized Naruto was in pain and she refused to let that continue.

[Codus N]

Anybody that keeps bringing that up just go tell them to see Chikara. Japan has a very different view of that type of relationship.

Speaking of Chikara, I really get the feeling that Naruto will actually propose somehow in the middle of battle later. Either the Sasuke battle or the one against either Madara or Orochimaru. That'd almost top Ed's proposal in FMA IMO.

Yes, glad to see some people get this. I can't believe how some forget that the core story revolves around Naruto and his bond with Team 7, regardless of how much they're shown or he spends time with.

Sasuke is the bond of the best friend and sibling, and the conflict arises with Sasuke not acknowledging it. Sakura is the bond of the loved one, and the conflict arises with Sakura still loving another. Kakashi is the bond of the mentor, and the problem was that he used to focus more on Sasuke, but now considers Naruto to have surpassed him and is glad he became his student.

The conflict with Kakashi has been resolved, they can bond more but it's already at a positive place. But since the more significant bonds are with Sasuke and Sakura those will come for a later date.

The end result should be with Kakashi as his respected teacher, Sasuke as his greatest friend, and Sakura as his true love. A specific connection to each member. It feels kind of lame for it to end with Kakashi as his respected teacher, Sasuke as his greatest friend, and Sakura as his slightly less significant friend.

I wonder about that. What if Obito points out how Kakashi completely favored Sasuke over their own sensei's son in the beginning?? If he points the similarities between him and Naruto, I wonder if he would ask the question of since Naruto is basically a reminder of Obito, wouldn't Kakashi have wanted him to become a great ninja unlike what Obito never got to achieve (I'm talking within the context of his supposed death). It would be interesting. Bonus points if he throws NS into the mix and asking, wouldn't he have wanted Naruto to achieve what Obito couldn't?? (get the girl).

@kirabook

Just think about what Sakura said: "He's a fool to love someone like me". Think about it through your perspective. If you thought that about a guy what would it mean towards you.

This is the same as Sakura saying "Why love me, of all people? I'm the last one you should be giving this kind of affection, you fool."

At the very least Sakura feels that Naruto is better off loving someone other than her. She feels she's not the right person for Naruto, that she won't give him the best happiness given the way she believes she made him suffer. That's why she thinks he's a fool for loving her.

It's not that Sakura feels unworthy because she believes she's the scum of the earth, she feels unworthy because she believes there are better options for Naruto than her and she believes Naruto deserves the best.

I really wonder if this will involve Hinata. It'd be interesting if Sakura says point blank he deserves someone else, and suggests Hinata only for Naruto to turn her down and have the conversation escalate into a fight with Sakura berating herself in front of him while Naruto keeps coming back and stubbornly says he still wants her.

@xxRomanceGirlxx: You're not 14. Not with post like these coming from you everyday.

Well, Rule number one on the internet is: Never Trust Anybody.

[Qia]

See it this way, Sai says that Sakura wants to save Sasuke from a life of evil because she loves him, so even if that means she has to kill him she will. That implies that killing Sasuke has always been Sakura's last resort in case the situation became too much.

Thanks to Naruto giving her hope she has never thought about resorting to it, but now with Sai telling her Naruto is in pain because of it makes her reevaluate the situation at hand. She has two options:

1) Let Naruto continue to reach Sasuke and hope for a good end, but at the expense of Naruto suffering.
2) Finally kill Sasuke to end it all, and take away Naruto's suffering.

She chose to go to the last resort (killing Sasuke) because she couldn't bear to see Naruto suffer one minute longer. Sai simply explained that the resolution of Sakura's love was enough for her to kill Sasuke, but the reason she decided to do so now was because she realized Naruto was in pain and she refused to let that continue.

Ohhhh noww I understand . Thanks. Hmm...that's interesting.

I really wonder if this will involve Hinata. It'd be interesting if Sakura says point blank he deserves someone else, and suggests Hinata only for Naruto to turn her down and have the conversation escalate into a fight with Sakura berating herself in front of him while Naruto keeps coming back and stubbornly says he still wants her.

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[xxRomanceGirlxx]

I really wonder if this will involve Hinata. It'd be interesting if Sakura says point blank he deserves someone else, and suggests Hinata only for Naruto to turn her down and have the conversation escalate into a fight with Sakura berating herself in front of him while Naruto keeps coming back and stubbornly says he still wants her.

It'd be a very emotional scene if that happened. I really think Sakura feels that way: Hinata deserves him more than her because she feels she has caused Naruto too much pain. Plus, Naruto will finally realize how unworthy Sakura has felt of him and that she doesn't do enough for him in her eyes. Seeing Naruto's words to her would be amazing. I've eagerly wondered for a while now if Kishimoto would actually do this for NS development.

[Codus N]

^And then this scenario gets shot to hell as always

[narusaku4ver]

I disagree with this statement so much, to me this is a reason why people bash Sakura in an unfair way when she doesn't deserve it.

Sakura likes Naruto, loves him is another question since it has only being speculated but not affirmed by her apart from her confession.
The thing with Naruto is that after the Poal and the destroyed look he saw on her when he failed to bring back Sasuke he created an emotional wall, since part two Sakura has being the one making the push (245, 261, 297, the feeding scene, 450 and confession are example of Sakura trying to get closer to Naruto) but the way he behave perhaps block her mind of the possibility that Naruto really likes her, is more like her believing that Naruto always teasing her plus the fact that he has proven in many occasions that he support her love for Sasuke while he always try to encourage her to keep believing in Sasuke.

Reason why Sai knew Naruto perhaps loves Sakura in on serious manner was the fact that after Sakura was away the mask he wore fall off allowing Sai to ask him based on his body language, the fact that Naruto was very surprise/ freakout that Sai was able to notice his feelings for Sakura tell the readers that it's something he tries to keep to himself. With Sakura it took her to remember those words he used on the Poal when, he told her he can tell how she feels since he feels the same way, those specific words is what allow Sakura to understand that she was really hurting Naruto when she ask him to bring back Sasuke to her.

Many readers try to use the excuse that if Sakura his own teammate didn't know how Naruto feels about her how can we expect Hinata, the difference is obvious, Naruto tries to hide the fact that he loves her from her.


About Hinata, the reason why I believe that she will stop chasing Naruto, is the fact that many of the Rookies find out how Naruto felt towards Sakura via Sai, something that might be addressed in future chapters.

Yeah but i dont think he was supporting SS, because he wanted to confess the fact is that the way it was going it would lead to Obito.
His confess would fail or he would push back, the fact is that naruto didnt confessed to Sakura it was Sai who said that, for some reason i feel that Kishi did that to not piss off the NH and SS fans.
Because if it was Naruto who confessed so NS would be canon a long time ago, but the fact that we cant deny is that Sakura now knows that Naruto loves her, it wasnt bought up again like Hinata's confession and neither Sakura's confession.
But it had an outcome different from those scenes, she's more gentle to Naruto, even feeling unworthy at that point she didnt tried to act mean to Naruto, instead she was way more kind and gentle with him we didnt even had tsundere scenes.

@codus unless it happens on the end or it serves as development before Naruto and Sasuke's battle but i dont think it will scalate to a fight it's something that Sakura must hear.

Edited by narusaku4ver, 02 February 2013 - 10:13 AM.

[narulsaku]

as i said before kishi had uncountable chances to make ns but he didnt .

[Don-kun]

^^
I think you meant NH, since Naruto and Sakura are there so there were many chances he could make NH canon but he chooses not to.

With NS it's more complicated since we know that they will be readers saying that Sakura chose Naruto because Sasuke was not available or because he was a bad person, so the fact that Kishi is allowing Naruto to tell her how he feels only when Sasuke is an option, is something that leads me to believe that if Sakura and Naruto ends together there be no doubt in the readers mind.

Yeah but i don't think he was supporting SS, because he wanted to confess the fact is that the way it was going it would lead to Obito.
His confess would fail or he would push back, the fact is that Naruto didn't confessed to Sakura it was Sai who said that, for some reason i feel that Kishi did that to not piss off the NH and SS fans.
Because if it was Naruto who confessed so NS would be canon a long time ago, but the fact that we cant deny is that Sakura now knows that Naruto loves her, it wasn't bought up again like Hinata's confession and neither Sakura's confession.
But it had an outcome different from those scenes, she's more gentle to Naruto, even feeling unworthy at that point she didn't tried to act mean to Naruto, instead she was way more kind and gentle with him we didn't even had tsundere scenes.

@codus unless it happens on the end or it serves as development before Naruto and Sasuke's battle but i don't think it will escalate to a fight it's something that Sakura must hear.

My bad I wasn't clear, Naruto has being shown to dislike how Sasuke treats Sakura but if that is what Sakura wants by no means he would interfere he will support her love all the way.

About Naruto confessing to Sakura, it's the same scenario we have with Hinata, Hinata was ready to Kamikaze herself but before she die she wanted to express her feelings to Naruto to get that out her chest and die with no regrets.
Naruto will not confess to Sakura with the expectation of having her fall in love with him, he will just do it to get it out his chest and set her free, but I have a strong feelings that things will not go the way he planed instead Sakura will surprise him with, I love you too.

Kishi said that Naruto will confess after all the problems with Sasuke is resolved, he even made Sakura ask Naruto that if he didn't like her just say so, but he already told us that it will only happen after Sasuke problem is resolve and the only reason why others keep saying that it's too late, Sakura already knows, or Naruto already fall for Hinata and he doesn't love Sakura anymore is because it bother them.
Naruto need to tell Sakura how he feels and what are the things he likes/loves about her something the smart ones from the other side are afraid of seeing, only the arrogant ones believe that Naruto will confess to Sakura and she will tell him No.

Edited by Don-kun, 02 February 2013 - 12:37 PM.

[T XD]

Naruto said that he'll confess to her after everything with Sasuke is resolved. But, it can be a surprise to happen before everything is resolved with Sasuke.

Edited by T XD, 02 February 2013 - 12:47 PM.

[Chucky-kun]

Step 1: Sakura confesses to Sasuke and gets no answer.
Step 2: Hinata confesses to Naruto and gets no answer.
Step 3: Sakura confesses to naruto and gets a weird answer.
Step 4: Naruto confesses to Sakura.
???
Profit.