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#9561 redragon88

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 12:16 AM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Jan 31 2013, 07:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm just reading that Sakura now is a main character like Bulma in DB and Hinata is the hero's love interest(???!) like Chichi.. And like Bulma in part 2 of DB, Sakura's stopping to being a main character...

Guys, i know that evertone has their personal opniones but this... it's just biased... and annoying to me..

How many time I thought that Naruto isn't like DB?!

This is the same song and dance as people claiming that Hinata is like Kushina. Ignore them. People try to force associations where there are none in an attempt to delude themselves.

As I recall young Chichi acted more like Sakura being in love with Sasuke. But even back then Chichi wasn't afraid to be aggressive with Goku, so that immediately makes her way different from young Sakura. Then after she got married to Goku she acted more like how Sakura is with Naruto. Although Chichi was way scarier than Sakura.

The only thing Hinata and Chichi have in common is being in love with the hero, nothing more. And Sakura has remained a consistent character in Part 2, she had more prominence in the Sasori arc, but still remained notable throughout.

There's also the fact that Goku was never in love with anyone before Chichi and romance was barely existent in Dragonball. I think the only reason Akira created Chichi was so that Goku could have Gohan. And speaking of Gohan, his dynamic with Videl is extremely similar to that of Naruto and Sakura, so take that as you may. Also, if I'm completely honest the relationship between Bulma and Vegeta reminds me more of how Sasuke and Karin get along then anything Sakura ever had with him. Bulma and Vegeta tended to bicker way more though, Sasuke simply lets Karin say whatever she want while he keeps his poker face.

I wonder if Sasuke likes it when Karin raises her voice to him. Maybe he enjoys having a girl that isn't submissive to all he says. laugh.gif

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 12:30 AM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 31 2013, 03:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know, the majority of them stated that the "war" is over(wtf), and claimed victory because their pairing is apparently official. laugh.gif


Funny they always say the same thing especially when 437 was released. God I remember that day they claimed victory and it was over for NS Kishi sure drop the bomb to them with 450. fu.png
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 12:36 AM

Who does Chichi remind you of here?

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 12:45 AM

@Slextrem

I still remember how much fun I had watching that scene with grown up Chichi for the very first time. laugh.gif

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 12:47 AM

QUOTE (MangaReader @ Jan 31 2013, 06:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's like NaruHina fans bite themselves...especially when neutrally parties admit stuff like this


You have no idea how much I agree with this. sleep.gif I don't understand those insane, aggressive NaruHina fans. I mean it's just fictional. Fictional characters, fictional couples. Sure, I'm not gonna lie and say I wouldn't be furious and disappointed if NH or god forbid, SS happened but then I'd move on and find another OTP that will hopefully happen. Plus, I will always believe NaruSaku had the better relationship out of all of them.

Like just today. I left a comment a while back on Youtube over a video with Sakura's confession to Naruto. Again, it consistently annoys the hell out of me that I see constant Anti-NS and Pro-NH comments on them when it's about NaruSaku. Seriously, where are the pro-NS comments on them? They're like nowhere to be found. dry.gif And guess what? I check my email and I'm now dealing none other than the infamous NaruHina troll, VJ. My first time ever having come in direct contact with him though I've heard a lot about him from here. Literally, I haven't even bothered reading what he says yet. Just consistent bashing that will either bring my temper out or make me laugh at him. That guy ... he's way too extreme. facepalm.png His attachment to Hinata and ridiculous Sakura hatred is beyond surreal. Though I would love seeing his rage fit on one of his videos when NaruSaku becomes canon. laugh.gif

The funny thing is ... he does realize he's a grown man and he's just ridiculously insulting a 14-year old girl who happens to have a different opinion than him, right? The 14-year old girl is me, btw. Wow, do I feel mature all of sudden. rolleyes.gif

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 01 February 2013 - 12:50 AM.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 12:58 AM

Is Chichi saying... "YOU F***"? I mean, I'm sure she's not, but what in the world is she saying?? XD Unless it's just yelling?

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 01:03 AM

I think it's "YOU FOOL!!!!!" lol.
 
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 01:04 AM

Ah, that would make a lot more sense. XD *censorship wise*

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 01:25 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Jan 31 2013, 08:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You have no idea how much I agree with this. sleep.gif I don't understand those insane, aggressive NaruHina fans. I mean it's just fictional. Fictional characters, fictional couples. Sure, I'm not gonna lie and say I wouldn't be furious and disappointed if NH or god forbid, SS happened but then I'd move on and find another OTP that will hopefully happen. Plus, I will always believe NaruSaku had the better relationship out of all of them.

Like just today. I left a comment a while back on Youtube over a video with Sakura's confession to Naruto. Again, it consistently annoys the hell out of me that I see constant Anti-NS and Pro-NH comments on them when it's about NaruSaku. Seriously, where are the pro-NS comments on them? They're like nowhere to be found. dry.gif And guess what? I check my email and I'm now dealing none other than the infamous NaruHina troll, VJ. My first time ever having come in direct contact with him though I've heard a lot about him from here. Literally, I haven't even bothered reading what he says yet. Just consistent bashing that will either bring my temper out or make me laugh at him. That guy ... he's way too extreme. facepalm.png His attachment to Hinata and ridiculous Sakura hatred is beyond surreal. Though I would love seeing his rage fit on one of his videos when NaruSaku becomes canon. laugh.gif

The funny thing is ... he does realize he's a grown man and he's just ridiculously insulting a 14-year old girl who happens to have a different opinion than him, right? The 14-year old girl is me, btw. Wow, do I feel mature all of sudden. rolleyes.gif


Now this explains why you rage so easily. laugh.gif
About the rest, well I believe some shippers really take things to another level.



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Posted 01 February 2013 - 01:28 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Jan 31 2013, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Like just today. I left a comment a while back on Youtube over a video with Sakura's confession to Naruto. Again, it consistently annoys the hell out of me that I see constant Anti-NS and Pro-NH comments on them when it's about NaruSaku. Seriously, where are the pro-NS comments on them? They're like nowhere to be found. dry.gif And guess what? I check my email and I'm now dealing none other than the infamous NaruHina troll, VJ. My first time ever having come in direct contact with him though I've heard a lot about him from here. Literally, I haven't even bothered reading what he says yet. Just consistent bashing that will either bring my temper out or make me laugh at him. That guy ... he's way too extreme. facepalm.png His attachment to Hinata and ridiculous Sakura hatred is beyond surreal. Though I would love seeing his rage fit on one of his videos when NaruSaku becomes canon. laugh.gif

The funny thing is ... he does realize he's a grown man and he's just ridiculously insulting a 14-year old girl who happens to have a different opinion than him, right? The 14-year old girl is me, btw. Wow, do I feel mature all of sudden. rolleyes.gif

When dealing with fans like VJ, it's best to just let it go. No matter what he says to you, don't respond. It's just going to turn into a petty argument. He throws out more insults than he does evidence. sleep.gif

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 01:43 AM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 31 2013, 10:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know, the majority of them stated that the "war" is over(wtf), and claimed victory because their pairing is apparently official. laugh.gif

Even when it's against them... that one chapter where Sakura confessed her feeling, they were all down in the dumps saying it's all over. They seriously need to get a grip on reality and realize a manga is not something to get all upset about. I bet some are reading it for dating advice at this point tongue.gif

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:09 AM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Jan 31 2013, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now this explains why you rage so easily. laugh.gif
About the rest, well I believe some shippers really take things to another level.


Maybe. xD Are you saying I'm immature, lol? laugh.gif Just kidding. xD

I just think it's my temper that I got over the years, I wasn't always like that. sweat.gif

@ Slextrem:

Probably. But now that I look at what he says, I can't even take him seriously. Forget me getting angry with him, what he says is actually laughable. laugh.gif

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:12 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Jan 31 2013, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You have no idea how much I agree with this. sleep.gif I don't understand those insane, aggressive NaruHina fans. I mean it's just fictional. Fictional characters, fictional couples. Sure, I'm not gonna lie and say I wouldn't be furious and disappointed if NH or god forbid, SS happened but then I'd move on and find another OTP that will hopefully happen. Plus, I will always believe NaruSaku had the better relationship out of all of them.

Like just today. I left a comment a while back on Youtube over a video with Sakura's confession to Naruto. Again, it consistently annoys the hell out of me that I see constant Anti-NS and Pro-NH comments on them when it's about NaruSaku. Seriously, where are the pro-NS comments on them? They're like nowhere to be found. dry.gif And guess what? I check my email and I'm now dealing none other than the infamous NaruHina troll, VJ. My first time ever having come in direct contact with him though I've heard a lot about him from here. Literally, I haven't even bothered reading what he says yet. Just consistent bashing that will either bring my temper out or make me laugh at him. That guy ... he's way too extreme. facepalm.png His attachment to Hinata and ridiculous Sakura hatred is beyond surreal. Though I would love seeing his rage fit on one of his videos when NaruSaku becomes canon. laugh.gif

The funny thing is ... he does realize he's a grown man and he's just ridiculously insulting a 14-year old girl who happens to have a different opinion than him, right? The 14-year old girl is me, btw. Wow, do I feel mature all of sudden. rolleyes.gif


You're 14???? The way you speak makes you seem...older. Wow.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:14 AM

QUOTE (Qia @ Jan 31 2013, 11:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're 14???? The way you speak makes you seem...older. Wow.


Knew someone would end up saying that. laugh.gif I thought that would surprise some people. tongue.gif

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:21 AM

The way I see, so long as you know exactly what your talking about, age makes no difference. I'll admit though xxRomanceGirlxx, I didn't expect you to be that young XD

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:25 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Jan 31 2013, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Knew someone would end up saying that. laugh.gif I thought that would surprise some people. tongue.gif


I'm 17 and you talk better than me, lol xD. And the arguments you make are really logical and well thought out. So it's impressive. smile.gif

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:31 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Jan 31 2013, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@ Slextrem:

Probably. But now that I look at what he says, I can't even take him seriously. Forget me getting angry with him, what he says is actually laughable. laugh.gif

Yep. tongue.gif
It's surprising. I've known the guy for roughly four years now and he still hasn't changed one bit. I figured he would have matured a little by now.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:47 AM

QUOTE (MangaReader @ Feb 1 2013, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The way I see, so long as you know exactly what your talking about, age makes no difference. I'll admit though xxRomanceGirlxx, I didn't expect you to be that young XD


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I'm 17 and you talk better than me, lol. xD And the arguments you make are really logical and well thought out. So it's impressive. smile.gif



Well, unlike a lot of people my age, I read a lot of books and write a lot. So basically my vocabulary is pretty impressive and wide compared to other 14-year olds that I know. And I have this really weird habit of being unable to stand typing or writing anything with really bad grammar. xD Even on the internet, which is when it doesn't really matter. sweat.gif

Lol at how many people thought I was older. I guess that's a compliment. biggrin.gif

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:48 AM

VJ actually makes me laugh so hard. I've been reading a few of his posts today, and I had to stop my self from randomly laughing out loud at some of the stuff he said.

On the top a few pages back about Sakura dying, in some strange, messed up way, I kind of want to see Naruto angst like HELL over Sakura. Though, that kinda goes against NS's strong point of being a mostly positive pairing. D:


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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:58 AM

For as much hell we give the other fandoms as much as they give us... I generally find it hard to not like any of them (the fans), even the most extreme fans. Sure I'll never tell them that and yeah, I'll try to form a respectable debate with them (even though it gets to name calling after facts can't be refuted), but I respect their determination. And really, sometimes I feel we're just as bad as them... as we sorta refuse to accept some of their "pairing" moments, at least NaruHina anyway. I mean sure, maybe we have a reason to ignore said moments, but maybe we are wrong about it. If I could, I'd wish to end this whole bloodbath we have with them, as its not worth to take it that far about a fictional story. Are they excessive, yes, are they rash, of coarse, but I don't feel we're any better sometimes. Anyway, that's my two cents, as they still get on my nerves a lot.

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Feb 1 2013, 03:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, unlike a lot of people my age, I read a lot of books and write a lot. So basically my vocabulary is pretty impressive and wide compared to other 14-year olds that I know. And I have this really weird habit of being unable to stand typing or writing anything with really bad grammar. xD Even on the internet, which is when it doesn't really matter. sweat.gif

I'm not a big reader and in fact I never really was. ^^; But I've always was more of a learn through experience type of guy then book smarts wink.gif

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