Here's where I don't get.
I asked because there's something that I just noticed. Anyone remember the fight between Obito and Konan. His mask half broken and it was later revealed that he has another Sharingan. If that's the case, why hide it? Who's going to be like "Oh crap! He's going to do Izanagi!" when no one knows about it except the higher ups of Uchiha and apparently Danzou? Besides, what's the point if he just going to use it the other one, as a bluff. Once that's broken, he brings a new mask with both eyes showing. Why start now.
You see, it truly felt like the whole Kage Summit and up are really made on the spot because it was the first time to find out that Tobi collected the eyes, where it led to nothing. Now if this was plan, the concept is just to have Tobi have a mask with two eye holes. That's the realistic outlook if the other eye can be replaced all the time. Before, I would believe that eye insertion isn't that easy like how the series truly made it out to be today. I would believe that Tobi was always meant to have one eye because again, what's the point if the left eye can be swapped at any time as well being used up. Wouldn't it be nice if you see him lose an eye the first time and then shock you that he has another still, only to find out he collected them. That would be good writing in shock and suspense. Instead, everything felt out of place. It's not like in other series, there's a reason why they do that. In here, there's no real point. To me, plans changed.
Such a god point. Tobi's story was just abandoned. There were so many questions about why he did what he did. The whole Mizukage era would have been nice to have filled in. Instead of flip-flopping to other characters which meant nothing and were not integral to the story, Kishimoto could have pulled from Tobi's past to tie in to the final ending. But he didn't.
The situation with the eyes is such a good point, and one that I hadn't really considered before. Yeah - that would have been so suspensful for him to lose the eye, let the audience think it was over, and then for him to pull out another one! Would have been like the perfect villainy of Orochimaru in part 1, where he kept regenerating. It presents the question to the audience of 'how do you defeat this guy?' which is what sets up real suspense.
Looking back, I think Kishimoto agreed to continue the manga for an unknown time, so he just began filling in chapters with half-baked stories and characters until they gave him the heads up to begin the final fight. And I think all of it was coordinated with the movie, not the other way around, like it should have been, that the movie was based on what Kishimoto wanted to come up with for the ending, on his time frame.
You're right about the idea of 'that's why they do that.' Kishimoto didn't have good reasons for any of the choices he made in the last half of Part 2. In writing, every character, scene, action, etc, has to have a reason. Otherwise you don't need it. So they way to prove that Kishimoto was just filling things out is to look at how many things never went anywhere, were brought up again or resolved, or played a part in the general resolution of the story. Hashirama and Madara. Fu (the Land of Iron guy) and Hanzo. The sealing urns. The extra kyuubi chakra in the twins.
There is no point to all these extra details that filled out the story — that fans thought were actually going somewhere!! Kishimoto just let it all go. And it say to me that was just filling up time until the end.
This x100, you should write your own story, everyone else can bugger off, people read books and manga etc because they want to read a story written by the auther, it is their piece of work, their creative mind on paper. If I want a story not written by one person, and the ultimate goal is money, I'll watch the dozens of shows on TV that changes cast and plot regularly to gain viewers. Atleast most of them shows have self contained episodes, and not a have a underlying plot that you invest years of your life following.
This is what the fandom that accepts the ending do not seem to understand, the pairings is not the real issue, it's the underlying reason why that pairing happened that is the issue, for 15 odd years the story told was largely one written and drawn by Kishi, but right at the end he made it into a popularity poll and sacrificed the integrity of the story to satisfy what he was told was the majority (whether he was forced, did it for money I don't know). Worst part is he didn't even write it himself, he let a anime studio who have so little creativity that they have literally taken one movie plot, changed a few things around and recycled it pretty much every Naruto movie, including 'The Last'.
Yes! It's like a well-done, popular fanfic looks like it's finally winding down and the author goes "Ok...So I'm out of ideas. Where should I go next? You tell me, but I'm leaning towards... harem?!? Vote now and tell me what should happen next!!'
When they turned the direction of the manga into a popularity contest, it was no different that one of those fanfics where the author lets the story be guided by the readers' choices. And maybe that's why the last two chapters and everything that has come after feels like such an awful, awful fanfic.
I think Kishimoto wanted out, and he turned over his story to the editors, publicists, handlers around him to do what they wanted with it. And nothing will ever convince me that the chapter titled "The Real End" wasn't Kishimoto's final statement that that was how he would have ended the story if it was still up to him. But at that point, it wasn't.
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