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#9481 daredevilthings2

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Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:18 PM

Yes you are by in defending the way Sakura is wording the context. A few Japanese people and my friend have said it's odd she would use those terms for her husband; since it's usually meant for someone's else husband or what a geisha would have used to refer to their clients. It's a term to distance one self from that person. Why so defensive about it?

I'm not "defending" anyway i'm just explaining you about a thing

Ok this is the last time i gonna try to explain this to you

"danna-sama" can means a lot of things It's also means "my husband"

"danna"=husband

"sama"=respectable

You can get a better explanation here: http://www.fuzita.or...allyourhus.html

Again i'm not  "defending" anything ok ?



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Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:19 PM

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Officla raw : "夫と"=otto
Danna = husband. 
Sama = particle to appoint respect. 

The Japanese fanbase find it weird and as she's lowering herself, that should be all I guess

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Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:19 PM

what are you guys arguing about? pretty sure this chapter confirmed yet again that sasuke and sakura are married.


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Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:19 PM

I'm not "defending" anyway i'm just explaining you about a thing
Ok this is the last time i gonna try to explain this to you
"danna-sama" can means a lot of things It's also means "my husband"
"danna"=husband
"sama"=respectable
You can get a better explanation here: http://www.fuzita.or...allyourhus.html
Again i'm not  "defending" anything ok ?


Okay, okay .. Are you a shipper ?

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Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:22 PM

Wait I don't really get it either. What is anyone trying to prove? I want to see the reciepts (proof) of Sakura calling Sasuke "danna-sama". Also does her saying "otto" suggest? I feel like all of us are reaching for nothing here. 

 

Edit: Okay "otto" means husband. So why is this out of context? Why does her saying this feel odd to you guys?

I don't even know

I just wanted to explain something about the Japanese language and now i am apparently a "troll"



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Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:22 PM

what are you guys arguing about? pretty sure this chapter confirmed yet again that sasuke and sakura are married.

But Sasuke hasn't called Sakura honey yet :umm: 



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Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:22 PM

I'm not "defending" anyway i'm just explaining you about a thing
Ok this is the last time i gonna try to explain this to you
"danna-sama" can means a lot of things It's also means "my husband"
"danna"=husband
"sama"=respectable
You can get a better explanation here: http://www.fuzita.or...allyourhus.html
Again i'm not  "defending" anything ok ?

When referring to another person's husband, this term is often suffixed with 様 (​sama) as 旦那様 (danna-sama).
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Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:22 PM

Wait I don't really get it either. What is anyone trying to prove? I want to see the reciepts (proof) of Sakura calling Sasuke "danna-sama". Also does her saying "otto" suggest? I feel like all of us are reaching for nothing here. 

 

Edit: Okay "otto" means husband. So why is this out of context? Why does her saying this feel odd to you guys?

 

“Otto”. This is written as “おっと” in Hiragana and pronunced as "O-ttoh". “Otto” is used when you have fallen, dropped something, been surprised, made a small mistake. This is used just like “Oops” in English.

For example, “Oops, I dropped a pen” can be “おっと、ペンをおとした(O-ttoh, Pen wo Otokittena.”

*"O-ttoh, hold the unicycle tightly!"

 

I don't know that much about Japanese, but where does it imply that Otto means husband. I must be reading something completely wrong. Where's Ramen and Rikudou when you need them the most.


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Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:23 PM

Sakura is obviously a doormat so it doesn't matter what exactly she said.

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Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:23 PM

I don't even know
I just wanted to explain something about the Japanese language and now i am apparently a "troll"

I am a linguist son do you think I wouldn't understand the terms being used or what?
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Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:24 PM

We must all accept that we are not the japanese experts that other shippers say we are. 



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Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:24 PM

But Sasuke hasn't called Sakura honey yet :umm:

he shows his gentle side sometimes, the forehead poke for example. 


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Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:27 PM

A pointless argument anyways.

 

he shows his gentle side sometimes, the forehead poke for example. 

Ah, the mightiest of tools. The forehead poke of love. I'm sorry, I concede that they are married.



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Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:27 PM

When referring to another person's husband, this term is often suffixed with 様 (​sama) as 旦那様 (danna-sama).

yeah this can be used to another person husband really but you have to see the context 

and in the contexto of chapter it's obvious sakura said "my husband"



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Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:28 PM

 
Otto. This is written as おっと in Hiragana and pronunced as "O-ttoh". Otto is used when you have fallen, dropped something, been surprised, made a small mistake. This is used just like Oops in English.

For example, Oops, I dropped a pen can be おっと、ペンをおとした(O-ttoh, Pen wo Otokittena.

*"O-ttoh, hold the unicycle tightly!"
 
I don't know that much about Japanese, but where does it imply that Otto means husband. I must be reading something completely wrong. were's Ramen and Rikudou when you need them the most.

Thier is nothing in the translation that proves this as I pointed out the context is what matters here. Your correct in that oops thing those kanji weren't for the husband term he's are she is pointing out if she had said Danna-Sama. Since Otto in that respect is done.
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Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:29 PM

Thier is nothing in the translation that proves this as I pointed out the context is what matters here. Your correct in that oops thing those kanji weren't for the husband term he's are she is pointing out if she had said Danna-Sama. Since Otto in that respect is done.

http://www.worldofja...sband-and-wife/

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She don't even said "danna-sama" here


Edited by daredevilthings2, 13 June 2015 - 06:30 PM.


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Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:30 PM

yeah this can be used to another person husband really but you have to see the context 
and in the contexto of chapter it's obvious sakura said "my husband"

The context doesn't suggest that thought even looking at with a straight face.
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Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:31 PM

There's really no need to discuss this since SS is still "traumatized" from the latest reveal. Personally, I'm confused and never bothered to learn Japanese anyway.  :sweat:

 

he shows his gentle side sometimes, the forehead poke for example. 

Or that time when he knocked her out on a bench.  :love:


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Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:31 PM

http://www.worldofja...sband-and-wife/

What ever as I stated before Otto also can come out to other terms just as easily and did you read my post.
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Posted 13 June 2015 - 06:33 PM

The context doesn't suggest that thought even looking at with a straight face.

Ok this is the last time i gonna try to explain a obvious thing to you

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"otto"=my husband 

http://www.cooori.co...sband-japanese/

here say about what "otto" means 

I'm not a troll i just think this denial trying to prove ss is not married when the own sasuke called sakura "my wife" is pathetic






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