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[FoolishYoungling]

I've been thinking about Tsunade's for a diamond for a long time.

I realize that as she uses the chakra and all, it fades away and we didn't see her with it when she was younger.

Is it possible that that diamond (or any other marking) do not appear until you've reached a certain chakra stored level? Are we sure that you can't the ability unless you have that mark? What if Sakura has been storing chakra, but it has taken her so long, such a marking would not appear yet? Is it possible that she can still use the ability (though it'll be weak and not at 'full power')?

I hope I explained what I'm trying to say well enough.

Is it possible that Naruto giving her some of that kyuubi chakra would give her all she needed to use it?

[narulsaku]

since naruto can give catraw XD so it Isnt a bad idia either.

[redragon88]

I went and checked the chapter and you are right she didn't say that there were only three rules but it does implies that she only taught her students the first three

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I don't see the point in keeping the forth rule a secret, but you never know. I think the way Kishi worded it could imply one way or the other. The way I see it since she said anyone capable of mastering the byakugou could break the rules that left the probability open for someone else to do it.

If I remember right it was explained back in the Search of Tsunade Arc that the Yin Seal requires a lot of chakra that has to be stored up over time, and while it is true that Tsunade used her Yin Seal to go through Kumo's teleporter not long before she used the Byakugou no Jutsu but she only had it released long enough to recover from the teleporter, remember Tsunade is a decedent of the Uzumaki clan so she has a lot more chakra to spare than Sakura does.

So your argument is that Sakura can't do it since she doesn't have a lot of chakra? But you have to remember that the jutsu works not by the amount of chakra you have but by how much you store within yourself to be able to use it.

Sakura having less chakra than Tsunade will only make her take a longer amount of time in order to store the chakra, it's not a determinant fact on whether she could be able to use it. To put a literal example, if Tsunade needs two days in order to store her chakra then Sakura would need four days since she doesn't produce as much.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

But my point still stands. In some way, shape, or form, Sasuke has brought Sakura closer to Naruto. I mean, is that really such a bad thing? I certainly don't think so.

I agree with this 100%. Sasuke really did end up pushing Sakura towards Naruto, little by little, unintentional or not. Even him leaving the village was unintentially partly pushing her towards Naruto. I will say this: If Sasuke had never left the village and Naruto never made the POAL (The NS moment that became a cornerstone for their relationship later), Sakura wouldn't of even seen Naruto or develop feelings for him at all. She'd be too blinded by her love for Sasuke to ever actually see Naruto and his efforts for her. While it's not impossible she might still develop feelings for him either way, if Sasuke never left it would've taken much longer.

I'm not trying to say here Sasuke is responsible for everything entirely. He's not why Sakura started to worry about him, hang out with him more, or even considers him more important than saving him. She did all of that on her own, she made the decision to. But Sakura's IMO unrealized love for Naruto didn't actually kickstart itself until Part 2. It was then it started piling on us. Sasuke's absence just made the process faster.

My point is, Sasuke was an outside force. He's even pushing Naruto and Sakura closer together through their shared desire to save Sasuke post-confession. It's really strange: Sasuke both brings NS "close yet so far". Though to be honest, the "so far" part is undoubtably both Naruto and Sakura's own fault. They created that wall themselves.

Naruto's side:
- His personal goal that he wouldn't tell Sakura he loves her until Sasuke's back in Konoha, both because he doesn't feel worthy of it and also because he would never believe Sakura loves him unless Sasuke was right there with them.
- The PoaL, given Sakura faith that Sasuke would have been able to be saved (*Note: It also drew them closer, but did create a blockade on Naruto's side)
- Naruto absolutely refuses to believe Sakura loves him or can love him, because of her love for Sasuke and his own possible insecurity.
- He consistently supports SS because he believes that's where Sakura's true happiness, despite his own pain over it.
- Naruto's willing to die with Sasuke if they end up fighting, disregarding his bond with everyone else, not just Sakura, for Sasuke.

Sakura's side:
- Sakura still loves Sasuke, so struggles to understand or accept that she actually may love Naruto or at very least, have feelings for him.
- She feels like she doesn't deserve Naruto's love ever since Sai finally told her the truth about how he really felt, causing her to feel guilty of the pain Naruto went though because of her.

Yep, Sasuke's damaging and halting off NaruSaku big time. Even though he's not even there, it still echoes. Both Sakura and Naruto need to overcome some of these blocks in order to be together. And wow, it's terribly ironic that Naruto has more Sasuke-related reasons than Sakura for NS not happening yet. Sakura only has two now.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 30 January 2013 - 04:54 AM.

[luffyq1]

I agree with this 100%. Sasuke really did end up pushing Sakura towards Naruto, little by little, unintentional or not. Even him leaving the village was unintentially partly pushing her towards Naruto. I will say this: If Sasuke had never left the village and Naruto never made the POAL (The NS moment that became a cornerstone for their relationship later), Sakura wouldn't of even seen Naruto or develop feelings for him at all. She'd be too blinded by her love for Sasuke to ever actually see Naruto and his efforts for her. While it's not impossible she might still develop feelings for him either way, if Sasuke never left it would've taken much longer.

I'm not trying to say here Sasuke is responsible for everything entirely. He's not why Sakura started to worry about him, hang out with him more, or even considers him more important than saving him. She did all of that on her own, she made the decision to. But Sakura's IMO unrealized love for Naruto didn't actually kickstart itself until Part 2. It was then it started piling on us. Sasuke's absence just made the process faster.

My point is, Sasuke was an outside force. He's even pushing Naruto and Sakura closer together through their shared desire to save Sasuke post-confession. It's really strange: Sasuke both brings NS "close yet so far". Though to be honest, the "so far" part is undoubtably both Naruto and Sakura's own fault. They created that wall themselves.

Naruto's side:
- His personal goal that he wouldn't tell Sakura he loves her until Sasuke's back in Konoha, both because he doesn't feel worthy of it and also because he would never believe Sakura loves him unless Sasuke was right there with them.
- The PoaL, given Sakura faith that Sasuke would have been able to be saved (*Note: It also drew them closer, but did create a blockade on Naruto's side)
- Naruto absolutely refuses to believe Sakura loves him or can love him, because of her love for Sasuke and his own possible insecurity.
- He consistently supports SS because he believes that's where Sakura's true happiness, despite his own pain over it.
- Naruto's willing to die with Sasuke if they end up fighting, disregarding his bond with everyone else, not just Sakura, for Sasuke.

Sakura's side:
- Sakura still loves Sasuke, so struggles to understand or accept that she actually may love Naruto or at very least, have feelings for him.
- She feels like she doesn't deserve Naruto's love ever since Sai finally told her the truth about how he really felt, causing her to feel guilty of the pain Naruto went though because of her.

Yep, Sasuke's damaging and halting off NaruSaku big time. Even though he's not even there, it still echoes. Both Sakura and Naruto need to overcome some of these blocks in order to be together. And wow, it's terribly ironic that Naruto has more Sasuke-related reasons than Sakura for NS not happening yet. Sakura only has two now.

A very in depth and logical explanation!


P.S. You might get a lot of hate for this.

[FoolishYoungling]

P.S. You might get a lot of hate for this.

From who?

[luffyq1]

From who?

We'll just have to wait and see. I'm sure not a lot of people like the fact that Sasuke played a big hand in bringing Sakura closer to Naruto.

[Zatheko]

We'll just have to wait and see. I'm sure not a lot of people like the fact that Sasuke played a big hand in bringing Sakura closer to Naruto.

To me it's a good thing, think about it, if sasuke is playing a part in bringing naruto and sakura together, that helps support that sakura will be with naruto instead of with sasuke. So its like he support NS and not SS when SS includes himself

Edited by zatheko, 30 January 2013 - 05:28 AM.

[luffyq1]

To me it's a good thing, think about it, if sasuke is playing a part in bringing naruto and sakura together, that helps support that sakura will be with naruto instead of with sasuke. So its like he support NS and not SS when SS includes himself

I don't follow. Sasuke, the guy that Sakura loves, left the village and left her and Naruto to try and bring him back. It's like their relationship can't stand on it's own without Sasuke being in the picture. Let's wait and see if Sakura will still love Sasuke after his redemption, which I'm sure she will by the way, because if she still loves him now after everything he's put her through, what kind of sense would it make for her to stop after his redemption?

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

P.S. You might get a lot of hate for this.

Hate? I don't understand why if I do. Sasuke brought them closer together and because of him leaving the village, Sakura was finally able to notice and acknowledge Naruto. It's a sad truth of NaruSaku. It can't be said that Sakura would develop feelings for him this quickly if Sasuke was still around. All of this ridiculously progressive and shockingly fast development between Naruto and Sakura over the span of one year (I know it seems way longer to us, but seriously, if Sakura actuallys does already have such strong feelings for him, then that is pretty damn fast. ) happened at that rate because she could actually see Naruto now. Sasuke was her tunnel vision, after all. It was made even more perfectly clear when she thought Sasuke saved her from Gaara instead of Naruto. Everytime I see that, I can't help thinking ... "Wow, that is such an insult to Naruto."

Sasuke played a very major role, but the feelings Naruto and Sakura have for each other was something they let happen. That's why I don't mind Sasuke being responsible for their close relationship, because Naruto loving Sakura and Sakura having feelings/maybe even already in love with him unconciously is not something he created.

[Zatheko]

I don't follow. Sasuke, the guy that Sakura loves, left the village and left her and Naruto to try and bring him back. It's like their relationship can't stand on it's own without Sasuke being in the picture. Let's wait and see if Sakura will still love Sasuke after his redemption, which I'm sure she will by the way, because if she still loves him now after everything he's put her through, what kind of sense would it make for her to stop after his redemption?

Just saying, if one person form SS has basically been pushing toward NS, it kinda makes SS even less likely to happen.

[redragon88]

I don't follow. Sasuke, the guy that Sakura loves, left the village and left her and Naruto to try and bring him back. It's like their relationship can't stand on it's own without Sasuke being in the picture. Let's wait and see if Sakura will still love Sasuke after his redemption, which I'm sure she will by the way, because if she still loves him now after everything he's put her through, what kind of sense would it make for her to stop after his redemption?

So you're saying Sakura won't love Naruto romantically in the end, at least not more than Sasuke? Her heart will always be with Sasuke?

If Ino is anything to go by it seems Kishi just wants to keep that love intact for as long as possible for the sake of character development.

[luffyq1]

So you're saying Sakura won't love Naruto romantically in the end, at least not more than Sasuke? Her heart will always be with Sasuke?

For her to hold on to a love this long that is clearly putting her through emotion and physical stress, and then in the end he's finally redeemed and now she stops loving him? Tell me, what sense does that really make? What exactly is the point for this girl to endure all the BS from Sasuke? Your love lasted this long, why quit in the end?

If Ino is anything to go by it seems Kishi just wants to keep that love intact for as long as possible for the sake of character development.

Character development for her to get Sasuke in the end or character development for her to repair her friendship with Sakura and support her goal in getting Sasuke? There's so many ways her character development can play out, that goes for Sakura too in this regard.

[StriderC]

For her to hold on to a love this long that is clearly putting her through emotion and physical stress, and then in the end he's finally redeemed and now she stops loving him? Tell me, what sense does that really make? What exactly is the point for this girl to endure all the BS from Sasuke? Your love lasted this long, why quit in the end?



Character development for her to get Sasuke in the end or character development for her to repair her friendship with Sakura and support her goal in getting Sasuke? There's so many ways her character development can play out, that goes for Sakura too in this regard.

Who says she has to stop loving him in the end? Why can't it be before that. I think he's going to be redeemed and she's going to choose Naruto over him mainly because of what good he does for her. I will say that Sasuke has definitely brought them closer, but I do believe that's not the only thing that they have going for them. The desire to save Sasuke that is...

[luffyq1]

Who says she has to stop loving him in the end? Why can't it be before that.

It's all due to the fans I'm afraid. It's pretty obvious Kishi's not going to make a pair canon until near the end, considering the fact that he loves going back-and-forth over the pairings.

I think he's going to be redeemed and she's going to choose Naruto over him mainly because of what good he does for her. I will say that Sasuke has definitely brought them closer, but I do believe that's not the only thing that they have going for them. The desire to save Sasuke that is...

If that was the case she would have chosen Naruto a long time ago. The nice guy act is just not enough for her to jump ship.

Edited by luffyq1, 30 January 2013 - 09:38 AM.

[rocci]

well naruto just use his tnj so sakura can change her heart.

[luffyq1]

well naruto just use his tnj so sakura can change her heart.

Action is a huge part of tnj, not just words as some people make it out to be. Gaara, Tsunade, Neji, Iruka, and many more were all brainwashed with a display of Naruto's actions before he could implement tnj on them. Sakura has witnessed Naruto from the prankster to the hero and she still loves Sasuke. In order for tnj to work you need the main ingredient, which is "action". Tnj isn't going to work on Sakura. Sakura ain't as fickle as Naruto's other tnj victims.

Edited by luffyq1, 30 January 2013 - 10:10 AM.

[redragon88]

For her to hold on to a love this long that is clearly putting her through emotion and physical stress, and then in the end he's finally redeemed and now she stops loving him? Tell me, what sense does that really make? What exactly is the point for this girl to endure all the BS from Sasuke? Your love lasted this long, why quit in the end?

Character development for her to get Sasuke in the end or character development for her to repair her friendship with Sakura and support her goal in getting Sasuke? There's so many ways her character development can play out, that goes for Sakura too in this regard.

For plot? What sense of intrigue would there be if it was resolved already. We already know that authors like to keep this kind of storyline open until the very end. Why on earth is this surprising to you?

I'm confused do you think NS has a chance or not? You sound pretty confident it will definitely not happen. I could very well say that NS will happen because Naruto is in love with Sakura, but just because someone is in love with anyone it's not enough to claim it will be like that until the end.

I could very well say: What exactly is the point of Naruto enduring everything he goes through with Sakura if it's hopeless in the end?

You line of thinking will only make you go in circles since it can be applied to Naruto as well.

[PhenixElite]

For plot? What sense of intrigue would there be if it was resolved already. We already know that authors like to keep this kind of storyline open until the very end. Why on earth is this surprising to you?

I'm confused do you think NS has a chance or not? You sound pretty confident it will definitely not happen. I could very well say that NS will happen because Naruto is in love with Sakura, but just because someone is in love with anyone it's not enough to claim it will be like that until the end.

I could very well say: What exactly is the point of Naruto enduring everything he goes through with Sakura if it's hopeless in the end?

You line of thinking will only make you go in circles since it can be applied to Naruto as well.

Lets say it this way:
Sakura loved sasuke till chapter 3.
Naruto loved sakura till chapter 3.

Now we can say in both cases, why should they change their feeligngs now if they didnt during the 600 chapters?
There is a difference between narutos love for sakura and sakuras love for sasuke:

Sakura first of all showed a negative view on her feelings for sasuke and shes the only one who also showed a change of her feelings during the story. Naruto didnt show anything of the above, so if sakura changes its not out of the blue since it was already hinted during the story. Sakura is most likely to change out of all the others.

Naruto endured everything and loved sakura over 600 chapters without showing doubts, so why should he change?

[Chucky-kun]

Now we just need naruto to defect from konoha to get kiba and hinata together.