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[MangaReader]

SS won't be dead until Sakura stops loving Sasuke romantically. It's that simple.

You'd figure the sorrowful face she gave would have been a hint... but I guess people just love looking at it differently *shrug*

[That Uchiha]

Okay what I’m about to say now will sound a bit strange and ridiculous, but bear with me okay? I’m really happy that Sakura didn’t appear in the last two chapters. Of course I was also disappointed that she didn’t appear at all, but as I said I’m happy that she didn’t appear. Now why exactly am I happy? I’ll tell you. It’s because I don’t want Sakura to appear just so she can heal Naruto something she already did, I don’t Sakura to appear so she can heal some random moron on the battlefield something she already did and probably the most important one I don’t want to see some random panel with her just to remind us that she’s there. I don’t want to see Sakura doing things she already DID. What I want to see is Sakura and Naruto fighting as a team, as a real team. The rules that Tsunade mentioned were already broken once and now that we see that Naruto can give chakra to anyone, those rules can be broken again. Seriously imagine a real teamwork between Sakura and Naruto, these characters are the greatest characters to be put together and fight as a team, they know each other better than anyone. Not to mention that the combination between these two is going to be amazing. Brute strength combined with ultimate speed equals perfection. That’s what I want to see. By doing this Kishi will show us why Sakura is the leading lady and why Hinata is a side character and will always remain the clown of the show.

Agree 110%

[Qia]

You'd figure the sorrowful face she gave would have been a hint... but I guess people just love looking at it differently *shrug*

That face could mean anything though...or so they say. It would be weird if she was happy about the position Sasuke's in right now, even if she loves him.

[MangaReader]

^ I guess if you look at it upside down, she is wearing a smile XD *kidding*

I have a hard time believing she was happy at all or just upset with the path Sasuke has taken

[Jake]

I'm not Kishi, how should I know?

Was there ever a moment that Tsunade said she kept the technique a secret from people? And even if she did maybe Sakura just found out for whatever circumstances. Still, it's weird to establish the byakugou as a rule for all medic nin yet keep the existence of said rule to yourself. Now that doesn't make any sense to me.

It was the forth of three rules so she probable didn't tell people about it, also in order for Tsunade to activate the Byakugou no Jutsu it requires the release of the Yin Seal which in case you forgot is the purple diamond mark on her forehead.

Edited by Jake, 30 January 2013 - 02:16 AM.

[Qia]

^ I guess if you look at it upside down, she is wearing a smile XD *kidding*

I have a hard time believing she was happy at all or just upset with the path Sasuke has taken

LMAO nice . Someone actually made a picture about that on tumblr. Too funny.

I'm on the same boat, but I'm just saying that there's another way to see it for some people where SS isn't put in too much of a negative light.

[narulsaku]

I think we just shattered his dreams.

is the his means me? then yes . and yes can any one give me a information about byakugou?

[luffyq1]

^ I guess if you look at it upside down, she is wearing a smile XD *kidding*

I have a hard time believing she was happy at all or just upset with the path Sasuke has taken

I'm going with the latter of your post. The guy she loves is a psychopathic criminal, so of course she would be sad over that.

[redragon88]

It was the forth of three rules so she probable didn't tell people about it, also in order for Tsunade to activate the Byakugou no Jutsu it requires the release of the Yin Seal which in case you forgot is the purple diamond mark on her forehead.

It wasn't the forth rule out of three. She just said she established the medic nin rules, she never said they were only three.

As for the diamond, I'm completely aware of it. But think about it. If we saw Sakura with the diamond it wouldn't be as much of a surprise, would it? Maybe Sakura's could be in her back or upper chest. Maybe she was able to focus the yin chakra without making the diamond visible to the eye.

I'm aware that this is a long shot. It's very improbable it will happen, but given I wouldn't dismiss it as impossible. Many people made that mistake with the Tobito issue and look what happened.

[MangaReader]

I'm going with the latter of your post. The guy she loves is a psychopathic criminal, so of course she would be sad over that.

That's why I said just... as in the only reason ^^; I think more of it like she doesn't want to love him anymore

Edited by MangaReader, 30 January 2013 - 02:27 AM.

[Chucky-kun]

It wasn't the forth rule out of three. She just said she established the medic nin rules, she never said they were only three.

As for the diamond, I'm completely aware of it. But think about it. If we saw Sakura with the diamond it wouldn't be as much of a surprise, would it? Maybe Sakura's could be in her back or upper chest. Maybe she was able to focus the yin chakra without making the diamond visible to the eye.

I'm aware that this is a long shot. It's very improbable it will happen, but given I wouldn't dismiss it as impossible. Many people made that mistake with the Tobito issue and look what happened.

What if its linked to sakura's forehead? I mean, that would be pretty interesting.

[luffyq1]

That's why I said just... as in the only reason ^^; I think more of it like she doesn't want to love him anymore

I have a hard time believing that considering all the bad things he's done, and now she doesn't want to love him anymore? Doesn't make much sense. Some random guy just reminded her that Sasuke isn't such a great guy, which causes her to look sad, because she just realizes that the love of her life isn't such a great guy. Flawless logic.

[MangaReader]

I have a hard time believing that considering all the bad things he's done, and now she doesn't want to love him anymore? Doesn't make much sense. Some random guy just reminded her that Sasuke isn't such a great guy, which causes her to look sad, because she just realizes that the love of her life isn't such a great guy. Flawless logic.

I think we're basically coming to the same conclusion... I think I feel she does still love him, but not like everything thinks. It's pretty much the last shred of trying to get over someone

Edited by MangaReader, 30 January 2013 - 02:38 AM.

[Qia]

That's why I said just... as in the only reason ^^; I think more of it like she doesn't want to love him anymore

The only thing we can really take from 540 is that she's not happy with the current Sasuke, but as to if she doesn't want to love him anymore is still up in the air. One thing's for certain though: She hasn't stated that she wants to continue chasing after him romantically, that's for sure. For now, all we know if that she wants team 7 to be happy again. But I'll stop there.

Edited by Qia, 30 January 2013 - 02:42 AM.

[MangaReader]

The only thing we can really take from 540 is that she's not happy with the current Sasuke, but as to if she doesn't want to love him anymore is still up in the air. One thing's for certain though: She hasn't stated that she wants to continue chasing after him romantically, that's for sure. For now, all we know if that she wants team 7 to be happy again. But I'll stop there.

I mean she still loves him, but I take it as she's not exactly happy. It's hard getting over someone, unfortunately I know that feeling all too well. :/

Edited by MangaReader, 30 January 2013 - 02:44 AM.

[kirabook]

The reason why I don't want to call it dead until something official happens is because then we're no better than other fanbases.

Sure, I agree that SS has a much less likely chance now since the murder attempts (Sasuke not only tried to kill Sakura, but Sakura tried to kill him too, double sided murder attempts) and Sakura was thinking about Sasuke in such a terrible light. I agree that Sakura will, somehow, get over Sasuke soon and choose Naruto in the end, I'm an NS fan after all.

But either way, it won't be the end until the fat lady sings clearly. Kishimoto is not fat and he's not a lady, but either way, I want him to make it absolutely clear, without a doubt, that SS is dead. I know some fans still refuse to accept something even after the author confirmed it and the reasons why (I often see this discussion about Harry Potter right? I wasn't involved in that fandom), but it will still be a fact and those fans will officially be in denial at that point. That is what I want, I don't care what other fandoms think, I want absolute and sure proof from the author himself.

We can call on the manga to support us easily, but even we must admit that Kishi makes things sketchy or unclear right? We believe Sakura loves Naruto, Kishi cryptically said he thought he was writing an honest girl, so assume Sakura does love Naruto in some way. But even still, Kishi did not make Sakura's love confession absolute.

We believe Sakura is still in love with Sasuke or falling out of love with Sasuke or never loved Sasuke like that in the first place. None of us can say for certain which is the case, Kishi hasn't made it absolutely clear and only gives us cryptic unscripted panels with Sakura thinking about a dark Sasuke.

The only true facts we have against SS is that Sasuke has never loved Sakura and that he surely doesn't love her right now. It takes 2 to tango, if one side of the relationship is MIA, then can you really call it a relationship? Until Kishi shows Sasuke actually caring about Sakura whatsoever, then that pairings change is automatically down by 50% and gets lower and lower as Sakura falls away from it too.

The true fact we have about Naruto is that Naruto loves Sakura. Kishi confirmed this fact not even a week or two ago in Narutoverse time. It's undeniable and until Kishi shows Naruto actually loosing interest in Sakura, everything else is speculation. This relationship is at at least 50% and has been increasing throughout the course of the manga.

From the manga, we see that Hinata LOVES Naruto. We can speculate whether she actually loves him or if it's just infatuation or an extreme crush, but Kishi has made it clear in the manga that Hinata feels she loves Naruto. Unless Kishi shows signs of Naruto falling for Hinata (for example, doing all the things he does for Sakura to Hinata like asking for dates, blushing, attempting to see her naked in the bathhouse), then it is a fact that Naruto does not love her that way at all. That said, their relationship is also at a steady 50%, but romantic wise, it has not increased at all throughout the entire manga.

So again, I don't really like the "It's dead" statement, it will pretty much always come back and bite you in the butt, I know other fandoms say NS is 'dead' all the time when it's obviously not. We may be in the right, but we won't know for sure until the end.

[Qia]

The reason why I don't want to call it dead until something official happens is because then we're no better than other fanbases.

Sure, I agree that SS has a much less likely chance now since the murder attempts (Sasuke not only tried to kill Sakura, but Sakura tried to kill him too, double sided murder attempts) and Sakura was thinking about Sasuke in such a terrible light. I agree that Sakura will, somehow, get over Sasuke soon and choose Naruto in the end, I'm an NS fan after all.

But either way, it won't be the end until the fat lady sings clearly. Kishimoto is not fat and he's not a lady, but either way, I want him to make it absolutely clear, without a doubt, that SS is dead. I know some fans still refuse to accept something even after the author confirmed it and the reasons why (I often see this discussion about Harry Potter right? I wasn't involved in that fandom), but it will still be a fact and those fans will officially be in denial at that point. That is what I want, I don't care what other fandoms think, I want absolute and sure proof from the author himself.

We can call on the manga to support us easily, but even we must admit that Kishi makes things sketchy or unclear right? We believe Sakura loves Naruto, Kishi cryptically said he thought he was writing an honest girl, so assume Sakura does love Naruto in some way. But even still, Kishi did not make Sakura's love confession absolute.

We believe Sakura is still in love with Sasuke or falling out of love with Sasuke or never loved Sasuke like that in the first place. None of us can say for certain which is the case, Kishi hasn't made it absolutely clear and only gives us cryptic unscripted panels with Sakura thinking about a dark Sasuke.

The only true facts we have against SS is that Sasuke has never loved Sakura and that he surely doesn't love her right now. It takes 2 to tango, if one side of the relationship is MIA, then can you really call it a relationship? Until Kishi shows Sasuke actually caring about Sakura whatsoever, then that pairings change is automatically down by 50% and gets lower and lower as Sakura falls away from it too.

The true fact we have about Naruto is that Naruto loves Sakura. Kishi confirmed this fact not even a week or two ago in Narutoverse time. It's undeniable and until Kishi shows Naruto actually loosing interest in Sakura, everything else is speculation. This relationship is at at least 50% and has been increasing throughout the course of the manga.

From the manga, we see that Hinata LOVES Naruto. We can speculate whether she actually loves him or if it's just infatuation or an extreme crush, but Kishi has made it clear in the manga that Hinata feels she loves Naruto. Unless Kishi shows signs of Naruto falling for Hinata (for example, doing all the things he does for Sakura to Hinata like asking for dates, blushing, attempting to see her naked in the bathhouse), then it is a fact that Naruto does not love her that way at all. That said, their relationship is also at a steady 50%, but romantic wise, it has not increased at all throughout the entire manga.

So again, I don't really like the "It's dead" statement, it will pretty much always come back and bite you in the butt, I know other fandoms say NS is 'dead' all the time when it's obviously not. We may be in the right, but we won't know for sure until the end.

Excellent post. This is basically how I feel about it too

[Jake]

It wasn't the forth rule out of three. She just said she established the medic nin rules, she never said they were only three.

I went and checked the chapter and you are right she didn't say that there were only three rules but it does implies that she only taught her students the first three

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As for the diamond, I'm completely aware of it. But think about it. If we saw Sakura with the diamond it wouldn't be as much of a surprise, would it? Maybe Sakura's could be in her back or upper chest. Maybe she was able to focus the yin chakra without making the diamond visible to the eye.

If I remember right it was explained back in the Search of Tsunade Arc that the Yin Seal requires a lot of chakra that has to be stored up over time, and while it is true that Tsunade used her Yin Seal to go through Kumo's teleporter not long before she used the Byakugou no Jutsu but she only had it released long enough to recover from the teleporter, remember Tsunade is a decedent of the Uzumaki clan so she has a lot more chakra to spare than Sakura does.

[MangaReader]

At this point... I'll take a Slug Sage Mode ;D

[kirabook]

I've been thinking about Tsunade's for a diamond for a long time.

I realize that as she uses the chakra and all, it fades away and we didn't see her with it when she was younger.

Is it possible that that diamond (or any other marking) do not appear until you've reached a certain chakra stored level? Are we sure that you can't access the ability unless you have that mark? What if Sakura has been storing chakra, but it has taken her so long, such a marking would not appear yet? Is it possible that she can still use the ability (though it'll be weak and not at 'full power')?

I hope I explained what I'm trying to say well enough.

Edited by kirabook, 30 January 2013 - 04:30 AM.