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[ns.Believe.It]

For a guy so confident in everything else he does, Naruto's blatant insecurities over Sakura's reciprocation never ceases to amaze me.

Naruto is confident in his abilities and of becoming Hokage because these can be achieved by his efforts alone. Love doesn't work this way does it? It depends on the other person. Self confidence won't help much.

[rocci]

@princess iris
I never said that she would gain it here. I believe she will get it in the next arc.

@tekopi
She need to train. And she's not a sensor, but ssm will give her that ability along with enhancement in all area and perhaps one unique ability.

@T XD
Yup that's what I think would happen.
I think she would fight Karin. After that she along with the other fight super orochimaru. The setting would be more like save sasuke arc in part 1.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Perhaps next chapter will tell us what to expect for the future. I feel like Sasuke witnessing the last moment is telling him that Sasuke's next move must be 100% sold because he can end up not getting his wish and end up death. It's like "Sasuke, you about to turn back and set your plan in motion. This could be your greatest choice, or your worst. Are you sure you want to do it?" Not saying he will back away, but I can see him when he close to lose to Naruto, he will think he will fallen the same path as Madara and probably think he should die by Naruto.

 

Anyway, time to see what's next.

[rocci]

@soraandven
Foreshadowing new enemy in the part 3, maybe?

@romancegirl
He will confess.

[六道仙人]

By using the poor excuse "Not all that Mom told me has been done!" is pretty lame...En plus, It is as if the following statement ("But I'm going hard at it!!") has been ignored or even removed... bah

[T XD]

@T XD
Yup that's what I think would happen.
I think she would fight Karin. After that she along with the other fight super orochimaru. The setting would be more like save sasuke arc in part 1.

Sakura vs Juugo also would be a good battle to see. Who knows, maybe she would battle Karin and Juugo at the same time. I think she's up to it without SSM.

 

Let's see if Sakura really would get SSM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I see it more as time to get real personal with life because well at this time, it feels like part 2 is closing (if the Last truly is part 3), so now, the focus will be more human story. It remind me of how one series only focus on one thing but as time skip happens, one beginning to question "She's a woman now. My feelings for her is strange..." Pretty much, things aren't going to be one track focus. I mean when looking at part 1 and 2, they are really different in terms of what situation to deal with. I believe it was Pepsi that posted it, but I did like how one page shows three time zones:

Part 1: kid, happy/energetic, and carefree.
Part 2: older, shows maturity, mixed of younger self in carefree look
Part 3: matured, look serious, body tone very adult..

But again, if there's part 3. I guess being young adult is a new trend of getting everything you need. Maybe got tired of teenager equal did everything. Ha, make college seem important. Well it is but it is an option rather than mandatory, though I recommend you to take it. Anyway, Naruto did become 17, so the road of adultery begins.

[tekopi]

@Rocci : need to train...smell like the plot base for her character in the shindai project thingy...or something

 

I forgot the name at the moment LoL

Edited by tekopi, 06 September 2014 - 12:10 PM.

[Sakura~]

 

Sage mode allow you to become kage level.
It's the same with 8 gate and curse mark.
Sakura will gain ssm. It is a given considering kishi bring the legendary 3 place to learn sm.
Oh and sakura doesn't need byakugan user since she could become a sensor ninja with it.

 

Isn't it too late for that? I want more Sakura moments, but I doubt we'll get some since the war is almost over.

Edited by Sakura~, 06 September 2014 - 12:20 PM.

[rocci]

@T XD
Juugo is strong, but One puch from raikage made juugo incapacitate.
What do you think sakura puch who is known as strong as tsunade puch?
And it's not even empower by sm.
Well it would be interesting tought.

@ns4life
This is how I see it.
Part 1 : dealing with the present.
Part 2 : dealing with the past.
Part 3 : dealing with the future.

Part 3 still a speculation, but I will not surprise if it happen.
To be honest I think naru vs sasu should happen 3 times.

[KnS]

Naruto is confident in his abilities and of becoming Hokage because these can be achieved by his efforts alone. Love doesn't work this way does it? It depends on the other person. Self confidence won't help much.

 

I agree with this in principle, but self-confidence does help in several ways.  Being confident in himself -- despite much of the story when he couldn't actually prove it -- is a hallmark of Naruto's character. 

For a guy so confident in everything else he does, Naruto's blatant insecurities over Sakura's reciprocation never ceases to amaze me.

 

If Naruto were not a self-confident character he would never have set and kept his sights on Sakura in the first place, nor made as many attempts as he did to get her attention and ask her out.  He obviously believes he is or will be a worthy suitor, that he has or will have what it takes to win her heart, and that he could make her happy.

 

The way I see it, Naruto was a kid working his way toward greatness -- to be the strongest ninja, to become Hokage, and just general coolness -- a side benefit of which would be so he could impress Sakura and compete with her interest in Sasuke.  

 

But then his motives changed, right?  When Naruto realized how much Sakura really loved Sasuke -- that it wasn't just a flirtation or something shallow -- he set aside his own love for her to help her get HER love fulfilled and made the PoaL.  

 

It was never about a lack of confidence that he thought Sasuke would always be better than him when he was finished attaining his great skills and recognition, or that Sasuke was in any way better for Sakura.  It was because Naruto recognized Sakura's feelings and loved her enough to try to make her wishes a reality.  One thing that had been made clear since #3 was that part of why Naruto loves Sakura is because he understands the depth, passion, and motivations of her heart.

 

Even during Sakura's confession, Naruto's reaction didn't strike me as lacking in confidence.  Quite the contrary.  He was extremely grounded and realistic.  He was angry with Sakura because he thought she was lying to herself about her feelings for Sasuke, and rightly so.  He had the confidence to not want her love unless she gave it freely and for the right reasons.

 

The key thing is, I think, that Naruto doesn't want Sakura to not love Sasuke.  He loves Sasuke himself, after all.  He wants Sakura to not be in love with Sasuke, and to be in love with him instead.  

 

In my opinion, it takes a crapton of self-confidence to be in that situation and still maintain positive feelings for both Sakura and Sasuke.   I mean, think about it.  Naruto never gives up.  Part of bringing Sasuke back was not just because it would make Sakura happy, but if Sasuke didn't come back Naruto could never stand next to Sasuke as an equal and properly vie for Sakura's love.

 

I don't think Naruto will be satisfied with the triangle conclusion until he knows Sakura and Sasuke are at peace with each other, and that despite having an opportunity to pursue a reformed Sasuke, Sakura chooses Naruto instead.

 

Just my opinion.

[ns.Believe.It]

 

Isn't it too late for that? I want more Sakura moments, but I doubt we'll get some since the war is almost over.

Me too. I hope this happens in the movie or maybe part 3( assuming the manga will continue ). I really want to see Sakura surpassing Tsunade in medical ninjutsu and also some Naruto-Sakura combination fighting. 

 

EDIT: KnS, I agree with most of the points you make BUT what I was saying was that simply being confident will never give you an edge when it comes to love. One might have all the confidence in the world and chase after someone but if that other person doesn't feel the same way then confidence isn't gonna solve the problem. This confident attitude may be attractive to the other person but that's not guaranteed.

Edited by ns.Believe.It, 06 September 2014 - 12:46 PM.

[ButterBean]

A SasuSaku classmate of mine argue to me that Sasuke got jealous when Sakura catches Kakashi. I said that that was the time that he noticed Madara. But, she kept insisting that that was on other panel that I didn't saw the panel where he looked at Sakrua. She also told me that it was Sasuke that Sakura smile is directed into and she started talking about the position of the sage, the angle when Naruto moved away from the group, the direction of faces of Sasuke and Sakura, etc...

  

  

 

Well, I just shut up and let her talk. She doesn't believe me anyway. I just wanted to share because most of the people I know in school are all SasuSaku fans. Here, I can tell it to a fellow shipper. 

[KnS]

EDIT: KnS, I agree with most of the points you make BUT what I was saying was that simply being confident will never give you an edge when it comes to love. One might have all the confidence in the world and chase after someone but if that other person doesn't feel the same way then confidence isn't gonna solve the problem. This confident attitude may be attractive to the other person but that's not guaranteed.

 

Right.  That's why I said I agreed with you in principle.  :)

 

But having confidence helps in another way.  If the person you love is fixated on someone who doesn't love them or will never be right for them, believing in yourself and having patience can make you the right person when the timing is right and the person you love finally sees the truth.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Why I got a bad feeling I'm about to see the ugliest of the fandom soon...

[ns.Believe.It]

A SasuSaku classmate of mine argue to me that Sasuke got jealous when Sakura catches Kakashi. I said that that was the time that he noticed Madara. But, she kept insisting that that was on other panel that I didn't saw the panel where he looked at Sakrua. She also told me that it was Sasuke that Sakura smile is directed into and she started talking about the position of the sage, the angle when Naruto moved away from the group, the direction of faces of Sasuke and Sakura, etc...

  

  

 

Well, I just shut up and let her talk. She doesn't believe me anyway. I just wanted to share because most of the people I know in school are all SasuSaku fans. Here, I can tell it to a fellow shipper. 

Ah yes, the 'Sasuke got jealous' argument. Its becoming almost as cliche as the 'Sakura loves Sasuke' argument. Why is it that SS arguments always get over-used and boring? If we listen to SS fans, Sasuke spends more than half of his time being jealous of somebody. Lol .

[Luna]

Ah yes, the 'Sasuke got jealous' argument. Its becoming almost as cliche as the 'Sakura loves Sasuke' argument. Why is it that SS arguments always get over-used and boring? If we listen to SS fans, Sasuke spends more than half of his time being jealous of somebody. Lol .

To add, WHY would Sasuke be jealous in the first place of Sakura holding Kakashi? Logic flies through the door when it comes to NH and SS.

[Don-kun]

Sometimes I wish I could express myself a lot better.
There is a user by the name I believe googleismyfriend, this user has the same thinking I do when it comes to NS becoming canon woth out leaving any room for any haters to talk about.

If my intuition is right about Kishi really liking NS, then I do believe that he is going to make the best possible ending for this pairing and by that he is going to make Sasuke a love option for Sakura.

Like others I share the same feelings about Sakura just talling Sasuke to f$$k off since she doesn't need to keep taking his sh$$, again like other I do think the same way but at the same time it only makes NS posible by default because despite her feelings for Naruto she also had to accept that Sasuke will never be an romantic option for her.

So that is why I say that Sakura might still have some feelings for Sasuke, she will like Sasuke but she will love Naruto, I believe that this is the only way Readers will not use that excuse about her being with Naruto was only because Sasuke didn't return her feelings or because Sasuke was mean and Naruto was a nice guy.

[ButterBean]

Ah yes, the 'Sasuke got jealous' argument. Its becoming almost as cliche as the 'Sakura loves Sasuke' argument. Why is it that SS arguments always get over-used and boring? If we listen to SS fans, Sasuke spends more than half of his time being jealous of somebody. Lol .

 

 

To add, WHY would Sasuke be jealous in the first place of Sakura holding Kakashi? Logic flies through the door when it comes to NH and SS.

Yeah. I know. It's just that most of the people I know in our school are SasuSaku and Naruhina fans. I tried to talk to them about my views about pairings but they just keep on denying it. I even told her that I don't ship any pairings so there will be no conflict between us. But, I still told her that Naruto will end up with Sakura (obviously) with all the hints as a "general" fan without OTP. Sadly, she didn't believe me. I really wanted to be friends with her. She seems nice and loves Naruto anime so much.

 

Argh, How I wish I will find someone that ships my pairing in our school.   That would be so amazing.

Edited by ButterBean, 06 September 2014 - 01:29 PM.

[Swagkura]

Honestly, the worst argument that I've ever heard against NS, and is extremely overused, is the "Naruto & Sakura has a brother and sister relationship". I can't even begin to explain how many times I've been told that, and how much they actually believe in it. Like, I'm sure most of us can tell the difference between a sibling relationship versus a romantic one, and NaruSaku fits the latter quite perfectly