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[rocci]

Wow, you know a lot more manga than me. The only manga I read are the ones written by Urasawa Naoki, Cesare Borgia, Railgun, Vagabond, and HunterxHunter. I don't know what this Sam raimi is though.

I hope Kishi watching The Amazing Spider-Man 2 doesn't result in him adding more rescue scenes for Sakura. Even the rescue scenes reminded me and my friend of Naruto and Sakura.

Thank you, but I'm not really read many manga usually it the popular one.
Urasawa naoki is the successor of osamu tezuka and his monster manga is the greatest manga in the last decade if not more. I read vagabond since I'm fan of slamdunk. I don't read the other but hxh is a great manga from what people said.

Kishi already watched it, in 3d
Well if Peter have naruto power, I believe he will use it to Gwen.
So I don't have any problem if naruto rescue sakura.
After all neo can save trinity in the matrix but his power useless in real word(bar killing sentinel).

Sorry, I'm forget to mention that Sam raimi is the director of spiderman trilogy and amazing spiderman is the reboot. Credit for ns4life to explain this.

@ns4life
I think ramen already watch it. ^^

Edited by rocci, 18 May 2014 - 03:56 PM.

[ramenanmitsu]

If you plan to watch the movie or care about it, I will stop here.

I already watched it so no problems

@rocci
Yes! YES!!
Monster was one of the greatest manga I've ever read! It's so rare to find somebody else who has read it!

Urasawa's 20th century boy and Pluto are also amazing!! You should definitely check it out.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 18 May 2014 - 04:03 PM.

[六道仙人]

I read urasawa's works too... And my favourite manga of all thime is 20thCB but also Monster is very very good

[TouKen4Life3g]

I already watched it so no problems

Oh. Lol. People here are afraid that Kishi will pull that ending scene. You should know.

[redragon88]

 

Hora, anata ni totte, daiji na hito hodo sugu soba ni iru no

Sakura is thinking about Sasuke who is far away, instead of Naruto who is right next to her. This is true literally and figuratively. I believe Kishi reintroduces this situation to be addressed later on.

 

 

 

I like this interpretation very much.

 

While it's clear she values when Naruto shows concern Kishi is making it too obvious that she would rather focus on what Sasuke think of her. This is a flaw of her character that needs to change, and I think that might happen inside the infinite tsukuyomi.

 

I do see Sasuke acknowledging her by the series end, but she should be yearning for it so much if it's Naruto the one she'll realize she loves.

 

I like your post and I agree. My only problem is why Kishi is showing repeatedly of Sakura's realizations towards Sasuke at this timing.
 

 

Maybe he'll actually resolve Sakura's feelings in the following chapters?

 

Like I said before, first the problem needs to be reintroduced and then you immediately follow it up with the solution.

 

To us the scene with Sakura might seem random, but Kishi probably did it to remind the audience that Sakura still has those issues with Sasuke, and by keeping those ideas fresh in our minds he'll show the solution to it.

Edited by redragon88, 18 May 2014 - 04:50 PM.

[Hiraishin]

I'm surprised you don't know Akira, ramen. o: it's very famous. Though I haven't watched it myself heh.

Since Kishi apparently watched The Amazing Spider-man 2 (I wonder if Peter & Gwen reminded him of Naruto & Sakura? those characters being similar didn't cross my mind - maybe if I watch it again it will, but now that I think about it they kind of are - but maybe for him it did), I hope he'll get inspired to involve Sakura in the plot and all more. He could add more rescue scenes cause of that but Gwen was in the movie heavily, so maybe he'll do something similar with his own heroine.

Edited by Hiraishin, 18 May 2014 - 05:21 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Maybe Kishi is stalling to see what they do in HTTYD 2 so he can get new ideas. Maybe he will have Kushina revived, hint to the trailer.

[DattebayoXShannaro]

I think I will write a LAP concerning the setup. It's...something that needs an answer. I am assuming that Kishi is setting up a moral ending (not necessarily at the very end) for this whole road of Sakura's feelings downfall for Sasuke. If there's another arc after this, that would mean this will get resolved before the grand finale. Again, if we get another arc that is.

 

I really hope it's not dragged until near the end.  Sakura should not resolve her feelings for Sasuke close to the end.  The reason is really portrayal.  While we know her feelings for Sasuke and her feelings for Naruto are separate, others don't.  I'm afraid if Kishimoto has her resolve her feelings for Sasuke near the end, and have her end up with Naruto not long after that, it's going to make it look bad on Sakura.  Fans will always call her change "settling for Naruto when she couldn't have Sasuke", and Naruto will be viewed as the rebound.  That's why Kishimtoto needs to settle these feelings for her ASAP, which he seems to be doing, without any relation to Naruto at all, but simply how she feels now, and afterwards, give her time to gradually realize her feelings for Naruto.  We have had her thinking about her feelings for Sasuke for a long time.  To balance that, Kishimtoto should give a good deal amount of time for Sakura to contemplate her feelings for Naruto as well.  Third party accounts can never make up for that.  That's one of the reasons why I'm hoping there is another arc, so this change isn't portrayed as a sudden thing that ends up having a negative reaction from the fanbase, and in turn makes her look bad, such as during the confession.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
I really hope it's not dragged until near the end.  Sakura should not resolve her feelings for Sasuke close to the end.  The reason is really portrayal.  While we know her feelings for Sasuke and her feelings for Naruto are separate, others don't.  I'm afraid if Kishimoto has her resolve her feelings for Sasuke near the end, and have her end up with Naruto not long after that, it's going to make it look bad on Sakura.  Fans will always call her change "settling for Naruto when she couldn't have Sasuke", and Naruto will be viewed as the rebound.  That's why Kishimtoto needs to settle these feelings for her ASAP, which he seems to be doing, without any relation to Naruto at all, but simply how she feels now, and afterwards, give her time to gradually realize her feelings for Naruto.  We have had her thinking about her feelings for Sasuke for a long time.  To balance that, Kishimtoto should give a good deal amount of time for Sakura to contemplate her feelings for Naruto as well.  Third party accounts can never make up for that.  That's one of the reasons why I'm hoping there is another arc, so this change isn't portrayed as a sudden thing that ends up having a negative reaction from the fanbase, and in turn makes her look bad, such as during the confession.

Well, we are getting around every surface of what if and Sakura continues to be upset. This one is about being in the same team and the fact he didn't react or anything outside of "the hell" when she went in, says everything. We got the opinion on Sasuke being "good", we got trust value, and now we got the care value. What's next? Well, we are closing in so the answer is almost here.

[harry4e]

The only problem with this route is that is ridiculous.

Naruto will save Sasuke with his friendship power late in the series and he wont be a bad guy anymore and he will care about his comrades.

So what's the point of making Sakura fell in love out of Sasuke because he's bad? if he's certainly going to become good in the end?

 

It feels like when Sasuke becomes good Sakura wont have reason to dislike him anymore which is what SS fans believe and it's the scenario they're looking for.

 

*Facepalms* Sakura needs no reason to dislike Sasuke to not be in be in love with him. This seems to be the fundimental flaw in SS fans thinking. It's not Sakura liking or disliking Sasuke, she will always like him, He owns the part of her heart that is dedicated to first loves, Sasuke turning into a good guy changes nothing.

 

The deciding factor is Sakura realising what Yamato, Kakashi, and Sai have already realised, she is in love with Naruto, her entire resolve and strength has him as he support beam, she asked Tsunade to train her was to lesson the burden on Naruto, when he went 4-tails her her words were 'I'll save Sasuke for you' Not for herself but him.

 

The one other massive blaring flaw is that Sasuke does not care for Sakura, that's a major flaw, look at Hinata her feelings for Naruto are much stronger than Sakura's feelings for Sasuke have ever been, but why do all of us here still think NaruSaku is the final pairing? Because Naruto loves Sakura!! And we've seen enough proof that Sakura herself has fallen in love with Naruto as well, it's just her head and heart are not in sync with each other.

 

NaruSakur for me is like those Teem Romance movies from the 80's and 90's teenage girl/boy in love with popular Captain of the American Footbal team/Head Cheerleader/future prom Queen. Nerdy friend help girl/boy get noticed, Girl/boy gets the person of their dream, and realise that who they always wanted was right next to them all this time, and last moment run off to be with the nerdy friend.

[Chatte]

People need to remember that in their actual timeline, Sakura has met Sasuke before the war, at most a week ago. Between Team 7 reunion and the start of the war, 3 days have passed, so if you're wondering why now, remember that in Sakura's case, things are still pretty fresh.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I thought I should share my thoughts about the recent events and something what people is divided to now.

 

Question:

 

I was planning to open a thread but I think it's ok just to ask here. There are three sides that I see currently, though if you're in a different one, then feel free to share. Now then, which side are you on currently?

 

A) Sakura still loves Sasuke but undergoing whatever developments Kishi is setting up

B) Kakashi exploited that she has moved on.

C) Kakashi exploited that she has moved on, but she has not yet realized it.

A) If Kakashi said was on SS side, well the idea of her falling out is still going on, so it doesn't really add well as well as making Kakashi wrong in many ways. On the other hand, depending on your reading comprehension, not to say you're a fool to read this way or that, if you read Kakashi's words in a ambiguous way, well, join me at choice C.

 

B) This is a tricky one. Much like Hinata's desire in this arc, what if we are reading Sakura wrong in terms of Sasuke? 540 actually has two ways to argue, but who knows who is right. That is until we see the resolution of this buildup. Now, what do I mean about reading it wrong? Well, what if Sakura did truly moved on already, with her knowing it as well? You would argue, "So why she keeps bringing the bad moments when Sasuke does something bad." Let's not forget, he is or was a friend and part of Team 7, so who to say she only concern that Sasuke can be back to Team 7 in a good term or that's long past, no matter what circumstances. Going back to Hinata, many would still argue about her love for Naruto being exploited in this arc. Well, as time goes by, people think she will glue to Naruto forever for the romantic purpose. Turns out it was more of a comrade thing as well as being in the same level. Now, what about Sakura? The only way we find out is the resolution she comes from all these buildups. If she said nothing but Team 7 not being back ever or anything of some sort, then it wasn't about romance, rather about Team 7 smiling together.

 

C) Regardless of Kakashi said that she has moved on, what if Sakura doesn't know herself? Well, let's remember what Kakashi said his words in his mind, not out loud. So, is this another way of Kishi saying, "Sakura got to find out herself. No one should tell her how she truly feels." After all, if you follow the idea of her still loving Sasuke, why did the latest moment with Sasuke not giving a crap even happened as well as her words implying the disappointment. Now if you believe the ambiguous way of Kakashi's words, then if anything, Kishi wants you think on what is Kakashi implying on her feelings. The first panel is very important as the second one addresses the kind heart she has. So if you're confused, you probably wanting to know what exactly he means, so you continue on. Now, here's a problem if you believe in choice A. The very next chapter continue the downfall of SS. Why does it need to happen? Everything should start going upward, if not do nothing to it. Keep in mind, Sakura is about change. Even the last chapter reflects the characters.

 

Naruto: Stronger but the same gentleman.

Sakura: Changed but a sweet heart.

Sasuke: Shady but a lone wolf.

 

So, what is my choice? To be honest, I'm mixed between B and C. I need more time to see how it's interpreted. If I have to choose one, um, maybe B. I don't know. Haha. Sorry, but I tried not to be confused like with Hinata. So there you go.

[Nostradamus]

Do you remember what I said about Hinata, to be more precise what I said about Kishimoto not done using her? Well considering all that happened in the latest chapter with the infinite tsukuyomi, I have a feeling that he's going to use her again in the following chapters. How exactly well I don't know because we don't know the infinite tsukuyomi works. We don't know if everyone gets a different illusion and everyone gets what they want or if Madara creates a world that everyone shares and he controls everything. Or maybe the infinite tsukuyomi fails.

Either way lets say it does work somehow, again I point out that we don't know how it works. What if in that illusion we get NH? I say this because from this, it does open the possibility for Hinata to finally open her eyes (if that's even possible) that Naruto is not really what she wants (again if that's even possible) or Sakura realizing her true feelings for Naruto (even though we know that those feelings are already there) and on and on.

Thoughts or opinions?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

*Facepalms* Sakura needs no reason to dislike Sasuke to not be in be in love with him. This seems to be the fundimental flaw in SS fans thinking. It's not Sakura liking or disliking Sasuke, she will always like him, He owns the part of her heart that is dedicated to first loves, Sasuke turning into a good guy changes nothing.

So how she will move on from Sasuke since she showed until now she loves him?
She will realize because Sasuke is bad? on which will become good in the end? Not because she will fall in love with Naruto later? Didnt many people here told me many times that Sakura will choose Naruto over Sasuke on equal grounds isnt contradictory to think she's already in love with Naruto when she shows the contrary everytime?
We have Kakashi and that line which can be irrelevant depending on what lead Kakashi to that conclusion.
 

The deciding factor is Sakura realising what Yamato, Kakashi, and Sai have already realised, she is in love with Naruto, her entire resolve and strength has him as he support beam, she asked Tsunade to train her was to lesson the burden on Naruto, when he went 4-tails her her words were 'I'll save Sasuke for you' Not for herself but him.

The main reason why i dont get this is that, we already got many moments and even a confession and Sakura thinking about her feelings for Naruto.
Still he pretty much confirmed her feelings for Sasuke after this(Summit) and 540 supporting the fact she still "loves" Sasuke, it was never shown that Sakura has now feelings for Naruto and she acknowledges it, all i see is something platonic whom is strongly inclined become love because Sai told her that Naruto loves her thus making Naruto a potential lover.
 

The one other massive blaring flaw is that Sasuke does not care for Sakura, that's a major flaw, look at Hinata her feelings for Naruto are much stronger than Sakura's feelings for Sasuke have ever been, but why do all of us here still think NaruSaku is the final pairing? Because Naruto loves Sakura!! And we've seen enough proof that Sakura herself has fallen in love with Naruto as well, it's just her head and heart are not in sync with each other.

Yep Naruto loves Sakura but there's also the possibility of open ending.
It's either NS or open ending.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 18 May 2014 - 05:57 PM.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

Maybe I'm the only one, but I think that whatever happens in the Tsukuyomi won't be pairing related like people are predicting. It just doesn't really fit with what's going on.   Granted I have no idea how it would play out, but all the predictions about what might happen with this pairing or that pairing in the Tsukuyomi -- they just don't make sense to me.

[narusaku256]

Do you remember what I said about Hinata, to be more precise what I said about Kishimoto not done using her? Well considering all that happened in the latest chapter with the infinite tsukuyomi, I have a feeling that he's going to use her again in the following chapters. How exactly well I don't know because we don't know the infinite tsukuyomi works. We don't know if everyone gets a different illusion and everyone gets what they want or if Madara creates a world that everyone shares and he controls everything. Or maybe the infinite tsukuyomi fails.
Either way lets say it does work somehow, again I point out that we don't know how it works. What if in that illusion we get NH? I say this because from this, it does open the possibility for Hinata to finally open her eyes (if that's even possible) that Naruto is not really what she wants (again if that's even possible) or Sakura realizing her true feelings for Naruto (even though we know that those feelings are already there) and on and on.
Thoughts or opinions?

I don't know if you read the previous posts or not but this theory was brought up many times in this week and by many users. Some think its inappropriate because it's an illusion and Sakura should resolve her feelings when she conscious of them. Some think that Infinite Tsukuyomi won't happen because Kishi stated that he put things into RTN which he could not put in real manga. And there are some who support this theory. For me, I am really confused as to which one to support, since all the 3 are plausible and have valid reasons. But I do lean more towards Sakura realising her feelings in that genjutsu world. Can't tell really on how Sakura would resolve her feelings. Next chapter will atleast open some ways to direct the predictions at. At this point, it is a bit difficult to know where things are really leaning.

[Nostradamus]

Yep Naruto loves Sakura but there's also the possibility of open ending.
It's either NS or open ending.

What's with you and an open ending? Seriously what in God's name gave you the impression that an open ending might occur?

There is absolutely nothing in this entire manga to suggest an open ending.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

What's with you and an open ending? Seriously what in God's name gave you the impression that an open ending might occur?
There is absolutely nothing in this entire manga to suggest an open ending.

Because Kishi let himself be influenced by audience.

[Otaru]

The only problem with this route is that is ridiculous.

Naruto will save Sasuke with his friendship power late in the series and he wont be a bad guy anymore and he will care about his comrades.

So what's the point of making Sakura fell in love out of Sasuke because he's bad? if he's certainly going to become good in the end?

 

It feels like when Sasuke becomes good Sakura wont have reason to dislike him anymore which is what SS fans believe and it's the scenario they're looking for.

 

Ah I think it's because the principal route of this manga is NARUTO and his friendship with Sasuke.

Kishimoto doesn't think about Sakura first IMO. That's why it seems weird from Sakura's side in term of development sometimes.

 

All this time, Sasuke was "bad" (I think he was never really bad because he was suffering and he lost himself *)... IMO, meanwhile all this time Sakura realized how Naruto was important in her life.

I think even if Sasuke return to good Sasuke at the end, Sakura will already be too much tied with Naruto.

 

I also think this " Sasuke-kun.... watashi no koto " from Sakura is here to made us worry about Sasuke and his feelings. Because I think Kishimoto thinks that fans want Team7 together smiling at the end. I think somewhere in the future it will be proven that Sasuke really cares for his former team-mates. Right now, he's blinded by his goal, as he has always be.

But we all know he will be back at some time, and that he will be gentle to Sakura, and we all know he doesn't hate her and that he cares about her in reality. But not romantically. I think Sasuke never had the time to think about it. Romance. He has always be blinded by his goals. I think Sasuke will support NaruSaku at some time in the future.

 

* I think it's also a message from Kishi. That nobody is really "bad", and that people are loosing themselves because of suffering. And that is kind of true.

Edited by Otaru, 18 May 2014 - 06:35 PM.

[Nostradamus]

I don't know if you read the previous posts or not but this theory was brought up many times in this week and by many users. Some think its inappropriate because it's an illusion and Sakura should resolve her feelings when she conscious of them. Some think that Infinite Tsukuyomi won't happen because Kishi stated that he put things into RTN which he could not put in real manga. And there are some who support this theory. For me, I am really confused as to which one to support, since all the 3 are plausible and have valid reasons. But I do lean more towards Sakura realising her feelings in that genjutsu world. Can't tell really on how Sakura would resolve her feelings. Next chapter will atleast open some ways to direct the predictions at. At this point, it is a bit difficult to know where things are really leaning.

Honest I only read a couple of the comments not all of them yet, no disrespect to anyone but we already have 47 pages and the chapter came out what 4 days ago, if any of you are offended that I haven't read all of your comments yet I'm sorry. It just the way I read the thread, I go to the last page see the comments respond to something and then I go back and read where I was the last time I checked the thread.

Moving on to the theory I'm mostly talking about Hinata  how Kishimoto is going to use her again. Also just because Kishi stated that he did the Road to Ninja movie and he put somethings in it doesn't mean the infinite tsukuyomi won't happen in the manga.