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[Gravenimage]

Well, that can be classified as feelings. Sasuke: "I heart you Karin."

Then that means he loves her after all.

[catsi563]

Ill add in a note about Sasuke and Karin here. One of the gals on the SasuKarin FC over on narutofan did a translation of the raw manga of the prior chapter.

The actual translation when Kabuto is talking about Karin is appareantly something along the lines of Very Good friend, or similar. the implication being that Karin was a lot more then merely a teamate to Sasuke or coworker.

Also Ive read once again something that irks me. Where is this impression that Sakura needs to ""make amends to Naruto." Nonsense coming from? What amends does she need to make? What actions has Sakura taken towards Naruto that are so grevious that she must make these so called amends for?

I have not seen a single action taken aside from her keeping certian truths about the rookies decision about Sasuke from Naruto which he has already forgiven her for. That would warrant her having to make amends to him as if she had whipped him or mistreated him all his life.

She is probably the sole person in the manga outside of Sasuke, and Iruka who hasnt treated him like trash. She at least acknowleged him from the beginning even if it was as someone who in her view went out of his way to make her miserable.

[CloudMountainJuror]

Ill add in a note about Sasuke and Karin here. One of the gals on the SasuKarin FC over on narutofan did a translation of the raw manga of the prior chapter.

The actual translation when Kabuto is talking about Karin is appareantly something along the lines of Very Good friend, or similar. the implication being that Karin was a lot more then merely a teamate to Sasuke or coworker.

Also Ive read once again something that irks me. Where is this impression that Sakura needs to ""make amends to Naruto." Nonsense coming from? What amends does she need to make? What actions has Sakura taken towards Naruto that are so grevious that she must make these so called amends for?

I have not seen a single action taken aside from her keeping certian truths about the rookies decision about Sasuke from Naruto which he has already forgiven her for. That would warrant her having to make amends to him as if she had whipped him or mistreated him all his life.

She is probably the sole person in the manga outside of Sasuke, and Iruka who hasnt treated him like trash. She at least acknowleged him from the beginning even if it was as someone who in her view went out of his way to make her miserable.

True...

[Turson]

I'm not saying its you but lately there's been a lot of negativity towards NS coming from new members it's getting quite annoying and frustrating.

Thats becuase of how plot was recently going. You cant really blame people for having doubts.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Exactly. I can't even remember any moment where Sasuke show's even a hint of having feelings for Karin.

Protecting her and Taka from Killer Bee when he changed into Gyuki when he thoght of Team 7 at the same time, BUT as we know, Sasuke's too batsh*t crazy to care about that and will make up some excuse, just like the excuse he came up with for NOT killing Naruto in Part 1. I'm not bashing, it's just how Sasuke is, like how he fails to see some things even when they're clear as a whistle.

Other than that, Sasuke's never cared about Taka; he's just seen them as a means to an end because of how he is.

[Gravenimage]

Thats becuase of how plot was recently going. You cant really blame people for having doubts.

Apparently they are forgetting the NS development since part 1.

[The Tax-Man]

Ill add in a note about Sasuke and Karin here. One of the gals on the SasuKarin FC over on narutofan did a translation of the raw manga of the prior chapter.

The actual translation when Kabuto is talking about Karin is appareantly something along the lines of Very Good friend, or similar. the implication being that Karin was a lot more then merely a teamate to Sasuke or coworker.

Oh the irony. Bashing translations from NH fans but accepting those from SasuKarin fans ABOUT SasuKarin? Really? Also, Kabuto knows nothing about Sasuke and Karin's situation or how they feel.

[Turson]

Apparently they are forgetting the NS development since part 1.

No one is forgetting, its just that current plot isnt going well for NS. Blame Kishimoto.

[CloudMountainJuror]

Oh the irony. Bashing translations from NH fans but accepting those from SasuKarin fans ABOUT SasuKarin? Really? Also, Kabuto knows nothing about Sasuke and Karin's situation or how they feel.

THIS.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Oh dear God . Look we already know who Naruto loves since chapter 3 and Kishi once more enforce it in part 2 especially with ch 457 and it doesn't matter if it was a flashback before or after Pain's invasion or Hinata's confession, Kishi is showing it right there to the reader that after all these chapters he still loves Sakura and it's going to remain that way. You're complaining that Naruto must think of Sakura now in this arc so every chapter he has to think about her always. Kishi isn't going to be wasting panel time of Naruto thinking of Sakura because he already show it to the readers too many times who he loves, which by now people should get it through their freaking heads and also they are in the middle of a fu***** war! there is NO TIME for romance. The faith of the ninja world lies in the outcome of this war and you're whining that Naruto must think of Sakura so that once again we get the clear obvious idea that he loves her (you want him to be like Hinata who always has Naruto in the brain 24/7).

As for Sakura I won't repeat myself nor I will use copy paste from my past posts, she already choose who she loves and wants to protect the most. Once again talking that her confession is fake it wasn't fake did Sai, Yamato and Kakashi told Naruto that she was lying??? Only Naruto assumed she was lying to herself when he's the one with wall of denial thinking that she will never love him and always love Sasuke. You're logic that if Sasuke is saved and brought back to Konoha and she will run into his arms dump Naruto before telling him" thank you but I love Sasuke" is completely artificial and it will go against Sakura's character completely because what will be the point of Kishi developing her character since part 1 only to keep her as a fangirl? You obviously been reading way too many fan fiction or maybe you're a Twilight fan . When the time comes that she will arrived with the rest of the rookie nine to help Naruto she will prove once more she wants to protect him and help him achieve his goal, what happened in 540 will be the turning point on her character development. If she gets the choice to keep Naruto's friendship or Sasuke's we will eventually see it and I already know who she will choose.

As for Sasuke why does he has to end up with someone for a pairing? I don't understand this isn't a bad soap opera romance, it's a shounen manga filled with action and drama. He doesn't have to end up with no one, in fact he doesn't deserve to be with no one after everything he has done, he made his choice and took his path on his own free will to walk the path of revenge and turn his back on the people who cares for him. You're just looking for a way to justify him as a good guy, I know Naruto will save him and bring him to Konoha but that doesn't mean he will make a 180 and fall for Sakura when he has NEVER like her the same with her telling him she loves him after he tried to kill her three times. Once again I say you like Twilight and been watching too many western novels. Another point do you seriously think the people of Konoha will welcome him back with open arms after everything he did, even with Naruto backing him up and convincing the villagers it won't be easy it will take time for Sasuke to gain back their trust.

Please to all NH, SS fans who are pretending to be NS fans on this forum I will appreciate if you all go somewhere else. There are plenty of NH and SS forums, if I bash in any way I'm sorry.

Stop with this bias trolling! No one here is pretending to be NH fans. And last I check, this forum is welcome for all pairings including NH and SS. If you're going to lable me as one of those NH and Sakura shippers. I have much beter things to do in life pretending to be someone that I'm not!

For the record, us new NS members are not out to bash the NS pairing. We'er trying to send the message to your thick skull that Kishi may end the manga with NS and SS. Doesn't mean we support NH and SS. We are indeed NS fan, be distraught that Sakura is stupid to see the perfect man in front of her. Yet she chooses some that nearly killed her three times. This is Kishi's way of perfect romance, and Naruto dates a girl who he doesn't like and is not affectionate with. If people are going to be fools that the manga is going to end 100% with NS. I'm sorry I bashed people and characters. But there is no further reason for me to debate in this thread anymore because it seems that what ever I say goes in and out the opposite ear. I'm gone till Kishi gives us more ammunition for NS if that ever happens.

Edited by Konoha'sCrimsonFox, 30 March 2012 - 07:38 PM.

[Namaenash]

Stop with this bias trolling! No one here is pretending to be NH fans. And last I check, this forum is welcome for all pairings including NH and SS. If you're going to lable me as one of those NH and Sakura shippers. I have much beter things to do in life pretending to be someone that I'm not!

For the record, us new NS members are not out to bash the NS pairing. We'er trying to send the message to your thick skull that Kishi may end the manga with NS and SS. Doesn't mean we support NH and SS. We are indeed NS fan, be distraught that Sakura is stupid to see the perfect man in front of her. Yet she chooses some that nearly killed her three times. This is Kishi's way of perfect romance, and Naruto dates a girl who he doesn't like and is not affectionate with. If people are going to be fools that the manga is going to end 100% with NS. I'm sorry I bashed people and characters. But there is no further reason for me to debate in this thread anymore because it seems that what ever I say goes in and out the opposite ear. I'm gone till Kishi gives us more ammunition for NS if that ever happens.

Let's cool down everyone. We're here for the same reason: to support NS. Friction and difference is always there, so, let's deal with it gracefully. I am positive that no one in this forum is trying to lable anyone or trying to accuse anyone.

The problem is that the posts in the last few pages have been addressed in this thread before, and I think to some of us, it is really tiring to answer the same doubts/questions with the same arguments...

Keep in mind that nothing is canon yet and the story is not finished yet.

[ciardha]

Ill add in a note about Sasuke and Karin here. One of the gals on the SasuKarin FC over on narutofan did a translation of the raw manga of the prior chapter.

The actual translation when Kabuto is talking about Karin is appareantly something along the lines of Very Good friend, or similar. the implication being that Karin was a lot more then merely a teamate to Sasuke or coworker.

Also Ive read once again something that irks me. Where is this impression that Sakura needs to ""make amends to Naruto." Nonsense coming from? What amends does she need to make? What actions has Sakura taken towards Naruto that are so grevious that she must make these so called amends for?

I have not seen a single action taken aside from her keeping certian truths about the rookies decision about Sasuke from Naruto which he has already forgiven her for. That would warrant her having to make amends to him as if she had whipped him or mistreated him all his life.

She is probably the sole person in the manga outside of Sasuke, and Iruka who hasnt treated him like trash. She at least acknowleged him from the beginning even if it was as someone who in her view went out of his way to make her miserable.

I'm not a Sasukarin shipper, but when I see a writer doing things that points toward a couple, even if it's not a ship that interests me, I will point out what is actually there in the manga. As catsi has said before there are, unlike with Sakura, actually manga canon evidence that Sasuke was attracted to and had some feelings for Karin. Note, the only people he's acknowledged that his bond to them "distracted" him from his goal is Naruto and Karin. He uses nearly the same words too when he talks about that to them. Sasuke's reaction to Karin's come on when they are alone is what I'm talking about when I say attraction- note how unlike with Ino and Sakura when they were fangirling him, Sasuke reacts with anger, disgust or indifference. With Karin he stutters that she's "too close". He never really shows a negative response to her come ons, the most "negative" he gets is a "this is not the time for that" type reaction. Note as well Suigetsu's comment about what he noticed about Karin and Sasuke....

[T XD]

Note as well Suigetsu's comment about what he noticed about Karin and Sasuke....

yea i noticed that too and i nearly have forgotten it, i was like what did suigetsu just said and it shows that it is most likely that there is a big hint for karin and sasuke as a pair and for me it is a strong hint

[CloudMountainJuror]

Sure, Sasuke's attached to Karin. Explains why he impaled her, then ordered her to be killed.

[T XD]

Sure, Sasuke's attached to Karin. Explains why he impaled her, then ordered her to be killed.

well actually that true but what suigetsu said really do intrigues me

[Gravenimage]

Sure, Sasuke's attached to Karin. Explains why he impaled her, then ordered her to be killed.

Didn't he stabbed a chidori to Naruto too and yet he still feels attached to him, I wouldn't be surprise if he's still attach to Karin as well.

[catsi563]

You're also frogetting the timing.

The Sasuke that harmed Karin was a different Sasuke from the one who fought Killer Bee.

Kishimoto sensei makes a very big distinction between the two. Team hawk Sasuke is a different animal from the Sasuke were seeing now.

The Sasuke from team hawk is the one thats most crucial as well. That Sasuke is the one who embraced even if only for a short moment one of the mangas key themes that of gaining strength from protecting whats rpecious to you which he did when Karin was endangered. Juugo practicaly ahd to haul him bodily away from her. And In that moment he gained the greater power to control Amateratsu.

he succeeded in protecting the team he had formed a bond with inspite of himself.

We also again see this change hilighted by karin when she tells Sakura that this isnt the same Sasuke.


And also there is no Irony here. The person who translated it wads Kanae a known NaruSaku fan and a person who is a solid debater and unlikely to push a biased translation.

Edited by catsi563, 30 March 2012 - 09:14 PM.

[merryGOflava]

Sure, Sasuke's attached to Karin. Explains why he impaled her, then ordered her to be killed.

well......i think he was going crazy at that point .......not saying he likes her like that....but

he did try his best to save her from killerbee......so he probably when insane when he stabbed her.

[CloudMountainJuror]

well actually that true but what suigetsu said really do intrigues me

Suigetsu is Suigetsu. You can't take what he says too seriously (which is what I love about him).

You're also frogetting the timing.

The Sasuke that harmed Karin was a different Sasuke from the one who fought Killer Bee.

Kishimoto sensei makes a very big distinction between the two. Team hawk Sasuke is a different animal from the Sasuke were seeing now.

The Sasuke from team hawk is the one thats most crucial as well. That Sasuke is the one who embraced even if only for a short moment one of the mangas key themes that of gaining strength from protecting whats rpecious to you which he did when Karin was endangered. Juugo practicaly ahd to haul him bodily away from her. And In that moment he gained the greater power to control Amateratsu.

he succeeded in protecting the team he had formed a bond with inspite of himself.

We also again see this change hilighted by karin when she tells Sakura that this isnt the same Sasuke.


And also there is no Irony here. The person who translated it wads Kanae a known NaruSaku fan and a person who is a solid debater and unlikely to push a biased translation.

Yes, Sasuke is very different now. That's my point, actually. Whatever potential SasuKarin had logically died with his action against her (unless he somehow suddenly makes a MASSIVE U-turn and she loses all respect for her character).

Didn't he stabbed a chidori to Naruto too and yet he still feels attached to him, I wouldn't be surprise if he's still attach to Karin as well.

The circumstances were immensely different. When he stabbed Naruto, he was trying to kill their bond and was under the direct influence of the curse mark. Karin? Nope. He did it of his own volition fully, and didn't have any problem doing it. The look on his face when he did it... That wasn't pain there. That wasn't regret. That was a disturbing calmness.

well......i think he was going crazy at that point .......not saying he likes her like that....but

he did try his best to save her from killerbee......so he probably when insane when he stabbed her.

Oh, he had definitely lost it by then. There's no denying that. My point is that he did go crazy, did something like that to her after everything she'd done for him... SasuKarin's current state is worse than SasuSaku's, to be frank.

Edited by zacrathedemon5, 30 March 2012 - 09:26 PM.

[T XD]

well......i think he was going crazy at that point .......not saying he likes her like that....but

he did try his best to save her from killerbee......so he probably when insane when he stabbed her.

yea it's like same sasuke with different attempts but i do feel sasuke has nothing to do with a special interest for karin but there is something about what suigetsu said before that convince me there is something although it could be wrong translation or something