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[redrose3443]

 i just wonder why Kishi altered everyones designs at the end.

 

-Sakura's hair was spiky again.

-Sasuke looked like Madara.

-HInata no longer had square ends.

-Shikamaru got a beard.

-Choji tripled in size.

-Ino's hair was shorter than it is now.

-Tenten got Lee's bangs.

-Shino got rid of his jacket and sunglasses.

-Temari had four ponytails.

-Gaara's hair was smoothed down.

-Naruto...still looked as awful as he did in the movie.

( not sure how much Kankuro changed, since he might not even be in the movie. Also Sai looked about the same.)

 

These altercations were just weird to me.

[Kamina-Yoshi]

Gaara looks like a dweeb with his hair down.

OF THE FUNK.

[Liu bie]

 

 

 

/\ eh, yeah but then you've got the next color spread with a LOtRs feel and Sakura leaning over Naruto. So it could be seen as equally pro-NS. I think Kishi was just trolling the hell out of everything in the end. 

 

No for me if you see all the pics Naruto and Sakura are together, but none of them so affectionate like the wild west.

[MangaReader]

When did Sakura say thank you to Sasuke in part one? Are you referring to when he complemented her genjutsu and she thanked him?

I'm guessing it was suppose to be when Sasuke thanked her... but that's really a lame @ss moment imo. Doesn't mean much now though because apparently it was Sasuke confessing his "true" feelings

[BecauseYouLetRinDie]

Soooo are the japanese naruto fans still complaining about the ending?

[Shadow1275]

 

Yeah, and I've said this for a couple days now, but LadyGT's After The War Doujinshi is gonna be the closest think for NaruSaku for me to see as them canon in my eyes. Unless she ends up making her own ending of the final two chapters then that'll help too. The ending of NH and SS in the manga are there, and it's terrible or even worse, but I found my NS closure with After The War. Even though it's not official, I consider it to be the real ending.  As my friend told me, the manga ends with Naruto VS Sasuke because after that the characters become OOC.     

You know though. It is kind of strange to me how vague 700 was at times. There are only a couple things keeping the chapter from flipflopping to NS:

 

NH/SS

 

1. Sarada's mom comment

2. Sarada's black hair and eyes

3. Bolt and Himawari's whiskers

4. Jump cut to Sasuke when Sarada says father

5. Himawari mentions brother

 

NS

 

1. Sarada's comment about her resemblance to Bolt

2. Sarada's likeness of Karin

3. The closeness of Sakura's house to the Hokage HQ

4. Sasuke not even being close to his family

5. Sarada's glasses

6. Sasuke doesn't even think about his family

7. Bolt looks nothing like Hinata and has no panel with her

8. All of the sons look like their fathers and the daughters look like their mothers... Except for Sarada and Sakura.

 

Idk, seems interchangeable to me

[MangaReader]

For as confident as I've made myself out to be... the real talk is I've been pretty much devoid of true emotion lately. I've been mentioning it around certain threads, but I'm really good at faking things, including my emotions. I just feel...empty ._.

 

 

*your comparisons

Seeing as I only want to say one comment... Sai's daughter looks more like him then Ino, at least to me anyway

[Shadow1275]

For as confident as I've made myself out to be... the real talk is I've been pretty much devoid of true emotion lately. I've been mentioning it around certain threads, but I'm really good at faking things, including my emotions. I just feel...empty ._.

 

 

Seeing as I only want to say one comment... Sai's daughter looks more like him then Ino, at least to me anyway

Except that it is a son named Inojin

 

http://naruto.wikia....ki/Ino_Yamanaka

[Kamina-Yoshi]

Maybe Naruto and Sakura had a fling at first, but it didn't work out? I don't know how that would work, but maybe that'll be Kishimoto's explanation about why Naruto and Sakura aren't together. They "broke up" and now they're too mad/afraid to face each other, but they'll only reveal it through flashbacks. Ergo, Naruto ran off with Hinata out of desperation, like how people bury themselves inside a bottle of scotch.

[MangaReader]

Except that it is a son named Inojin

 

http://naruto.wikia....ki/Ino_Yamanaka

Really... goes to show how awful this last chapter was then

[LuckyChi7]

You know though. It is kind of strange to me how vague 700 was at times. There are only a couple things keeping the chapter from flipflopping to NS:

 

NH/SS

 

1. Sarada's mom comment

2. Sarada's black hair and eyes

3. Bolt and Himawari's whiskers

4. Jump cut to Sasuke when Sarada says father

5. Himawari mentions brother

 

NS

 

1. Sarada's comment about her resemblance to Bolt

2. Sarada's likeness of Karin

3. The closeness of Sakura's house to the Hokage HQ

4. Sasuke not even being close to his family

5. Sarada's glasses

6. Sasuke doesn't even think about his family

7. Bolt looks nothing like Hinata and has no panel with her

8. All of the sons look like their fathers and the daughters look like their mothers... Except for Sarada and Sakura.

 

Idk, seems interchangeable to me

 

Yeah of that new generation Sarada is the only character that's stuck out to me. I mean yes you've got Bolt who is close to Naruto, with his hair being a little wavy instead of spiky. However you can tell that's Naruto's son just at first glance.

 

Sarada to me at least looks way too much like Karin. I mean ever since Thursday that's always been a red flag on my part, and maybe Kishi intended on doing that in order to save it for Part 3. Let's say Sasuke and Karin got together, but she died during child birth, and Sasuke gave her to Sakura. There's always that theory, but that can go anywhere. It's like I said one glance at her kinda says "something is up and we're not getting any answer."

 

I'll be honest when it comes to Part 3 I'm very mixed about it now after how everything went down in 699/700. tbf 700 has just a few reedeeming qualities too it like Naruto being Hokage, and just on my end with  Sarada. 

 

I know tumblr's already exploding with the Bolt X Sarada shipping, but I'm not jumping on board just yet. If this so called Mini Series actually manages to make up for the ending of Naruto (Which I highly doubt) then i'd be quite surprise, and if it comes to that and we don't get a third love interest then yeah I'm staying away. The last thing I need is another pairing war to deal with, and if throughout the whole mini series we go with just Bolt and Sarada, similar to FMA with Edward and Winry, then I might change my mind. However as it stands Naruto's ending is a sight I never wanna go back to.   

[Shadow1275]

 

Yeah of that new generation Sarada is the only character that's stuck out to me. I mean yes you've got Bolt who is close to Naruto, with his hair being a little wavy instead of spiky. However you can tell that's Naruto's son just at first glance.

 

Sarada to me at least looks way too much like Karin. I mean ever since Thursday that's always been a red flag on my part, and maybe Kishi intended on doing that in order to save it for Part 3. Let's say Sasuke and Karin got together, but she died during child birth, and Sasuke gave her to Sakura. There's always that theory, but that can go anywhere. It's like I said one glance at her kinda says "something is up and we're not getting any answer."

 

I'll be honest when it comes to Part 3 I'm very mixed about it now after how everything went down in 699/700. tbf 700 has just a few reedeeming qualities too it like Naruto being Hokage, and just on my end with  Sarada. 

 

I know tumblr's already exploding with the Bolt X Sarada shipping, but I'm not jumping on board just yet. If this so called Mini Series actually manages to make up for the ending of Naruto (Which I highly doubt) then i'd be quite surprise, and if it comes to that and we don't get a third love interest then yeah I'm staying away. The last thing I need is another pairing war to deal with, and if throughout the whole mini series we go with just Bolt and Sarada, similar to FMA with Edward and Winry, then I might change my mind. However as it stands Naruto's ending is a sight I never wanna go back to.   

Tbh I don't like any of the kids. Nor do I like what 693 - 700 did to Sakura's character. But I might give the movie a shot. A pirated shot mind you. Something is up imo. Even 700 had way too many inconsistencies for me to believe it and that was the only chapter that has any sort of pairing canonicity power behind it.

 

I've got another theory about 699. What if that forehead poke scene was just Sakura recieving her acknowledgement from Sasuke and nothing more? We knew that that was her goal in chapter 3, what if that was the end of Sasuke's and her relationship? Note that the Kishi goggles are on here. 693-700 really should have never happened to Sakura

[Rabbit]

Except that it is a son named Inojin

 

http://naruto.wikia....ki/Ino_Yamanaka

 

It's a boy afterall. 

[LuckyChi7]

Tbh I don't like any of the kids. Nor do I like what 693 - 700 did to Sakura's character. But I might give the movie a shot. A pirated shot mind you. Something is up imo. Even 700 had way too many inconsistencies for me to believe it and that was the only chapter that has any sort of pairing canonicity power behind it.

 

I've got another theory about 699. What if that forehead poke scene was just Sakura recieving her acknowledgement from Sasuke and nothing more? We knew that that was her goal in chapter 3, what if that was the end of Sasuke's and her relationship? Note that the Kishi goggles are on here. 693-700 really should have never happened to Sakura

 

 

 

That's exactly my point about Chapter 700, all it was is a set up for Part 3. That's all. 

 

 

Now about 699 being an acknowledgement from Sasuke on Sakura's part I'm not so sure. It's an interesting theory, but no something definitely seems off I mean I smelt trouble the minute I say her long hair in 699. That was before she asked Sasuke, and I was like Oh no that could only mean thing and I don't like it. However her hair did get short in The last once more, and I will admit Sakura does look pretty cute in The Last. That's something I won't lie about.  Now going back to theory, I can see it, but all there needs to be is confirmation first. Since theories can go on and on for a long time. I'm not saying I deny it though incase you're getting the wrong idea. 

[trang95]

 

Yeah of that new generation Sarada is the only character that's stuck out to me. I mean yes you've got Bolt who is close to Naruto, with his hair being a little wavy instead of spiky. However you can tell that's Naruto's son just at first glance.

 

Sarada to me at least looks way too much like Karin. I mean ever since Thursday that's always been a red flag on my part, and maybe Kishi intended on doing that in order to save it for Part 3. Let's say Sasuke and Karin got together, but she died during child birth, and Sasuke gave her to Sakura. There's always that theory, but that can go anywhere. It's like I said one glance at her kinda says "something is up and we're not getting any answer."

 

I'll be honest when it comes to Part 3 I'm very mixed about it now after how everything went down in 699/700. tbf 700 has just a few reedeeming qualities too it like Naruto being Hokage, and just on my end with  Sarada. 

 

I know tumblr's already exploding with the Bolt X Sarada shipping, but I'm not jumping on board just yet. If this so called Mini Series actually manages to make up for the ending of Naruto (Which I highly doubt) then i'd be quite surprise, and if it comes to that and we don't get a third love interest then yeah I'm staying away. The last thing I need is another pairing war to deal with, and if throughout the whole mini series we go with just Bolt and Sarada, similar to FMA with Edward and Winry, then I might change my mind. However as it stands Naruto's ending is a sight I never wanna go back to.   

I will read Part 3. Despite the fact that I absolutely hate the end couples and the ending, I can't help but take a great interest in Bolt and Sarada, both as individuals and as a potential couple in the future. Regardless of whether she is Karin's or Sakura's daughter, Sasuke is definitely her father. Thus, she is the last living Uchiha next to her father and a descendant of the Indra (or was it Ashura?) lineage. This alone makes her an interesting character in my eyes. How does she cope with this knowledge? I'd also like to see her activating the Sharingan b/c I've never seen a girl activating it before. Bolt on the other hand is Naruto's son and, thus, a descendant of the Ashura lineage. It took generations and generations for the rivalry between these two lineages to end. Naruto and Sasuke were finally able to end this constant hate and become friends. Maybe Sarada and Bolt can take the next step and unite these two lineages? One thing for sure is that b/c of their ancestors, Bolt and Sarada are meant to be involved in each other's life. If their relationship is well executed and no BS love triangle is created, then I will ship them. Here we have Sarada actually taking an interest in Bolt b/c she can relate to him. We already have a one-sided understanding and sympathy from Sarada. Even if it makes me sound like a traitor to the NaruSaku fandom, I don't care. I still love NaruSaku and mourn that they did not become cannon, but that doesn't mean that our hate should be projected onto the next generation. I won't let my OTP feelings get in the way of reading Part 3.

And besides that, after a lot of thinking, I came to realize that I am a Naruto fan first and foremost. I want to see how everyone is doing, and what the heck is truly going on. If everyone is so thirsty for answers, we might have to give Part 3 a chance. 

Edited by trang95, 11 November 2014 - 08:06 AM.

[Shadow1275]

 

 

 

That's exactly my point about Chapter 700, all it was is a set up for Part 3. That's all. 

 

 

Now about 699 being an acknowledgement from Sasuke on Sakura's part I'm not so sure. It's an interesting theory, but no something definitely seems off I mean I smelt trouble the minute I say her long hair in 699. That was before she asked Sasuke, and I was like Oh no that could only mean thing and I don't like it. However her hair did get short in The last once more, and I will admit Sakura does look pretty cute in The Last. That's something I won't lie about.  Now going back to theory, I can see it, but all there needs to be is confirmation first. Since theories can go on and on for a long time. I'm not saying I deny it though incase you're getting the wrong idea. 

No I know. The other problem with it is that she was blushing. The hair might be an indication of her regression. But when I look at her previous confession it played out pretty much the same. Sakura asks to go with him, Sasuke silences her but thanks her and then goes on his own path. The same thing happened here. He even tells her after that she is not a part of his sins (Different Paths) and that

He'll be seeing her again (Thank You) But then he goes off. After that we get a huge NS moment with the POAL. So why would he leave without her and create isolation if SS is the future? Why are they separate?

[archangel]

Guys, let's not make this painful. SS and NH are canon, as sh*tty as that is. It sucks, but this state of denial is not helping anyone. Honestly, it feels like to me, Kishi wanted to end his series a long time ago, but popularity wouldn't let him. Let's just deal with it and pirate the movie so we can see how the train wreck that is NaruDoormat happened.

People who want to believe can believe. DREAM NEVER DIE. Though I kind of accept that NH and SS are as kitten and stupid and has waste most part of basic storytelling. SRY there .  Canon in the kishi-verse. If any of your theories happen to be true, they got me.

 

I took the blame, it's my fault. There is 2 thing I did each week in 2014. Watch wrestling and read Naruto. The streak is dead to Brock lesnar, CM PUNK Quit and Brock is Champion. Onto Naruto, well read 699-700. I should have ship both NH AND SS so they don't happen .

 

As for the bold part, I'm not watching 110 min. to see the making of NH canon and totaly see NS destroy to justify their ending. NS will either get friendzone or they act like it never exist. Read the summary, it will save you time. The last happen between 699 and 700, It has been state. 

 

But it's not in my wolrd and never be, those two were meant to be, even 699- Thelast-700 can't keep them apart in my world. Love conquer all. In our heart, NS is canon and that is were it count to me. I don't care about the other people that ship NH and SS and are glad that their pairing are canon though the absence of romance was really strong. 

 

Someone tell me when Hinata save Naruto life 2 time? Not a sarcasm here, a guy said that on the internet, but I can't recall. I suppose it count the pain fight though Naruto becoming 6 tails and almost die by transforming wouldn't really count in my book. But I kind of don't see the other. Thx

[James S Cassidy]

Two kittening hours? It was "on air" right?

You know alot of people say that about the time, but honestly a good 45 minutes of it was 4life talking. And yes, it was on air.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 11 November 2014 - 08:15 AM.

[archangel]

 

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Jan 7 2013, 05:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I stumbled upon a post on Tumblr and thought I would share it~ This sums up what I believe is happening right now with all of the Hinata focus going on in the chapters. 

"I’m not sure if I said this before, but I’ll say it anyway, Kishi is trying to fool the readers. He’s doing what I like to call a narrative feint. I’ve seen it before in other manga. The writer spends the majority of the story hinting at one main pairing. But at one point, usually during the second half of the story, the writer begins to add evidence that they’re instead going to pair the main character with another love interest instead. Sometimes even going as far as actually having them get involved romantically, which Kishi is not likely to do since that bit usually only happens in the romance genre, where the pairings are the main focus. In the end the author always hooks up the pairing which they had been most strongly foreshadowing throughout the entirety of the story. Almost always the main guy and main girl. In this case Naruto and Sakura.

Narrative feints are not restricted to romance. Kishi already did it with Tobi. He gradually hinted at Tobi being Obito. Suddenly he made everyone think that Tobi was really Madara, or someone other then Obito. And through it all he kept adding hints that pointed towards Tobi=Obito. And in the end that’s exactly what happened. He’s doing the same thing with his main pairing.

Usually, I find these feints to be very unsubtle ways of trying to add a twist to a story. That or the author just likes the troll their fans. Either way, people keep falling for them.

I’ve got to hand it to Kishi though. I wasn’t sure how it would happen, but he managed to make Hinata’s prediction in chapter 573 come true. But don’t forget, Sakura also had a prediction in that chapter. I notice in moments like in 573, mangas and anime usually give the person who is most important to the main character the last word. Sakura had the last word in 573. Meaning, now that Hinata has had her moment, Sakura’s moment is next and it will be more significant.

Hinata’s words on the last panel of 615 do worry me though. They could be taken as a hint that she is going to die. There are two reasons why I don’t want this to happen. First, I’ve always liked her character. I hope that someday she eventually does rise up to succeed her father. And second, if she dies, when NaruSaku happens then a bunch of NaruHina fans will simply claim that if Hinata hadn’t died then Naruto would have gotten together with her instead. And we will literally never hear the end of it.


And I’ll close this with what I have been saying the whole time, NaruSaku is inevitable. It is the most heavily and obviously hinted outcome in the manga. More so then anything else. Practically written in stone. It is simply too late for Kishi to pair Naruto with anyone else, without making it look like sloppy writing. And Kishi is is consistent with the outcomes of his foreshadowing. Don’t fall for the feint.

 

That is interesting. But My only question is when it's gonna happen? In part 3? Isn't it written by another autho, who might totally ignore this? I just tried to understand here

Edited by archangel, 11 November 2014 - 08:12 AM.

[Shadow1275]

That is interesting. But My only question is when it's gonna happen? In part 3? Isn't it written by another autho, who might totally ignore this? I just tried to understand here

I feel like it could happen in the movie. Idk the wheels in my head are starting to turn now that the shock has worn off.