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[Codus N]

 Basically this: Naruto will not allow himself to believe Sakura loves him quite yet, but he's not dense enough to deny their friendship is not just a normal friendship anymore. He knows "something weird" happened between them, but he won't really let himself define it yet. So saying Sakura was "more or less his girlfriend" is more like Naruto saying "I don't really think she loves me, but part of me is confused."

 

Except that this would only apply to characters who are oblivious to love (100% completely). Naruto is the only exception that he knows he loves Sakura, but if you were to apply this to him, you would be hard-pressed to make it work. Why?? in order for the character to have doubts and not have an understanding of his feelings, you have to actually establish his naivety when it comes to things like those. We already know that he is aware of what love is, so what's the point in dragging things out??  

 

If he is already that aware of what love truly is, then he should've acted up by now. I know about his insecurity, but at this point it's just dragging things out and gets boring. Not only that, it only serves to make him look even more of an idiot. He's supposed to instill the sense that you can do anything if you're gutsy enough. So, the fact that he doesn't have the balls to actually ask her about what their relationship really is, really breaks the aesop as a whole. 

 

 

That's what I thought, but I'm trying to figure out why the other fans think like that.

 

The way I figure they must think Naruto is joking because he can't use Sakura's confession to seriously support his claim of Sakura being something like his girlfriend. And the reason he can't use the confession is because they believe Sakura completely lied about everything.

 

I suppose the counterargument would be that Naruto believes Sakura is somewhat honest with her love for him.

 

Does this mean Naruto accepts that Sakura does love him? That's the part that I wish to be sure of.

 

Like others said, I think he's saying that it's more like their relationship is "floating".

 

 

I see what your saying, and while it's problematic that Sakura seemed to have become an after-thought recently, I feel that the quality of her development with Chiyo, and the quality of her development with regards to Sasori's conversion/fall from grace was so high that it really doesn't matter that the quantity of Sakura development had been reduced.  I do agree that Kishi has a consistency problem to a large degree (on the other hand, he's also very good at "ignoring" certain points for a long time, then bringing them up again much later when relevant), and that he's seemingly wonderful at forgetting characters, but having recently re-read/skimmed through much of the manga, I've noticed that Sakura is more involved even in the War than it seemed when reading the manga on a chapter-by-chapter basis.

 

I'll check those out eventually, I got into Naruto because years and years ago on our way to HS my carpool and I were stuck in major traffic.  He had a couple of volumes of Naruto on him, and I thought it was interesting.  I'm actually interested in reading Kurohime as well.  Ecchi doesn't bother me, Jacqueline Carey's first Terre d'Ange trilogy is my favorite fictional series and as an Undergrad I used to teach undergraduate and graduate students sex ed it's really a shame how little knowledge some graduate students have...

 

There's no question about her involvement in the war, but however, it's not counterbalanced with quality, either. All we really have is quantity right now.

 

Actually, I'm also guilty for my lack of knowledge on sex ed too (and I'm a 4th year Uni student!!) . All I get is that you bang up a girl, your juices gets into her and mixes with hers, and voila!! you've got a baby on the way!!    and even then, I still don't get how the intricate details work.  

 

I've actually been wanting to write a smutty lemon fic for a long time, but since I don't have enough knowledge on how "it" works, I would have a problem conveying it into written form.

 

Although reading porn/H-mangas does help a little..... (but not to the point where I'm confident I can write it.)

 

@Paptala: About the list that you took from another fandom... well, I can definitely say that it is all true. Not to mention that there is one manga masterpiece that adheres to that list to the letter.

 

Rurouni Kenshin

 

But the difference is that RK had a shorter run than Naruto. So, it's easy to dangle the looming question between the hero and heroine in front of the readers. It's really a matter of psychological perspective. For a longer-running series like Naruto, the question have to be constantly referenced and hinted at, otherwise, you ruin the the reader's anticipation. It's not surprising that NH fans seemed to believe that Naruto has gotten over Sakura because of the lack of consistency. 

[Psychox]

Eh haters like forneverworld and sawyer wasted no time in their views to downgrade stuff. Forneverworld just focused on shikamrau and totally bypassed Sakura's presence yet he still had to make an unnessessary nh comment he wants to happen. Swayer being the moron he is thinks sakura was useless again and that ino should have somehow been thanked by tsunade.

Oh haters trying to discredit sakura again. Many have said she was useless and did nothing to save shikamru and that he would her concern for naruto is dumb. I'm sorry, hold up. Her concern of naruto is dumb or she worries to much? Yeah she worries about naruto cause she is his friend. Did these guys forget how concerned she was about naruto burning himself out from 628?

 

Um... lol? She doesn't have the right to worry about Naruto? What the hell is that suppose to mean , eh??

I smell jealousy right of the bat .. She isn't Sasuke centered anymore ? She cares so much for Naruto's feelings and his friend(s) that she was so desperate to save Shikamaru ,because Naruto ''needs you!''..

She doesn't have the right to do that? She is obligated to think about Sasuke and him only 24/7? Seems legit..

It seems to me that there is a law that forbids her to do that ..

Sorry guys, but this it seems that Sakura has defeated the image you kept in your heads for quite the long period .

And yes, it doesn't prove that NS is Canon ,BUT it speaks how much Sakura cares for her platonic sibling and his feelings and well being + his friends  are her top priority . I think that is what we call true love .

No Sasuke guys , she has changed  .. My humble apologies, but Deal with it !



 

[HauntedCake]

So would you guys say that Sakura still romantically loves sasuke at this point? or how would you define her feelings for sasuke right now? because i'm getting so confused as to what to think about Sakura and who she loves atm...

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I'll stick with the fact it's a joke.
It just doesnt make sense to me, the confession ended with Naruto thinking she really loves Sasuke and thinking she was doing this for Sasuke too.

We never got a conclusion of this moment from Naruto's part, neither a talk between Naruto and Sakura, so how could he now "i think she loves me", off-panel development on NS?
Hell no, i think he was either joking which ends up with him once again stating he wants to be Sakura's boyfriend, it's not like NH fans who do this "It's a joke" jump page and ignore.

 

Because srsly it doesnt make sense.

"Sakura loves Sasuke too much" - Naruto, later. "she's more or less my girlfriend" answering deadly serious.

I'm sorry but kishi spend the whole manga to avoid Naruto witnessing Sakura's devotion to him and even f**cked up Sakura's confession to prevent this and then in off-panel he resolve this?

I cant buy this.

 

 

So would you guys say that Sakura still romantically loves sasuke at this point? or how would you define her feelings for sasuke right now? because i'm getting so confused as to what to think about Sakura and who she loves atm...

 

Kishi is purposely hiding Sakura's feelings, either for Naruto or Sasuke cant tell this because he's saving to show this on the future.

 

 

 

Except that this would only apply to characters who are oblivious to love (100% completely). Naruto is the only exception that he knows he loves Sakura, but if you were to apply this to him, you would be hard-pressed to make it work. Why?? in order for the character to have doubts and not have an understanding of his feelings, you have to actually establish his naivety when it comes to things like those. We already know that he is aware of what love is, so what's the point in dragging things out??  

 

If he is already that aware of what love truly is, then he should've acted up by now. I know about his insecurity, but at this point it's just dragging things out and gets boring. Not only that, it only serves to make him look even more of an idiot. He's supposed to instill the sense that you can do anything if you're gutsy enough. So, the fact that he doesn't have the balls to actually ask her about what their relationship really is, really breaks the aesop as a whole. 

 

Yep, its like he doesnt have guts or is afraid of something, he would get the answer of what Sakura feels about her relationship with him, but part of me believe he did that because of his insecurity maybe he didnt wanted to know the answer because he believes she loves Sasuke.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 03 October 2013 - 10:15 AM.

[HauntedCake]

Well if thats the case then why is she stringing Naruto along? She should just say she loves sasuke end of..

 

She shouldn't be playing around with Naruto's feelings if she will never love him.

 

IMHO the romance in this manga is a mess Sakura's feeling are about as clear as mud and we have characters such as Karin and to some extent Hinata who are so tunnel visioned on love that even a world threatening apocalypse wont snap them out of it.

 

And to have someone love a person who has treated you like kitten and even tried to kill you multiple times is just...

 

anyway rants be rants.....

Edited by HauntedCake, 03 October 2013 - 10:34 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Well if thats the case then why is she stringing Naruto along? She should just say she loves sasuke end of..

Why she would say that?

Naruto cut her off and she out of embarassment of the situation puched Naruto, it didnt had a continuation, weird is that she didnt even confront Naruto on this matter or responded to him, it's like it didnt happened which is weird.

I believe if she really love Naruto she would have responded to him, but instead the whole moment was ignored.

 

Kishi is purposely hiding Sakura's feelings, and she's not even interacting with Sasuke, only with Naruto because Naruto is interacting with her.

 

Sasuke is doing nothing to help the alliance it's only Naruto who's inspiring them and showing his feelings and yadda yadda.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 03 October 2013 - 10:38 AM.

[awesome sauce dude]

People are way over looking 631. I thought naruto took the question seriously and answered seriously with his own emotions. He thought about his answer because he knew its not true that they are together. People need to stop over analyzing a simple answer that is in our faces. Making it way to complicated than it needs to be.

[Psychox]

I'll stick with the fact it's a joke.
It just doesnt make sense to me, the confession ended with Naruto thinking she really loves Sasuke and thinking she was doing this for Sasuke too.
 

Because srsly it doesnt make sense.

"Sakura loves Sasuke too much" - Naruto, later. "she's more or less my girlfriend" answering deadly serious.

 

I've been wondering why mangastream which is driven by fans mainly, translated 632 and added that sentence ''I will never poke fun of Sakura- chan again'' ? If Naruto wasn't talking about the confession in 631 would've they put something else ? Something less obviously faked? Why would they do that? To mask the fact that the confession had parts of it that were true?Or they ignore everything that went in last  arc and assume that the confession is automatically fake .

He didn't believe her ,because he had a lot of flashbacks she caring for Sasuke and Naruto was just ignored most of the time, he didn't witness the smiles nor the warm looks she gives him regularly. And i agree, Kishimoto threw dust in Naruto's eyes with that ''she went to save him from darkness because she loves him so much she will end his life'' , but 95 % it supports NS and that shouldn't be left out like that.She couldn't kill Sasuke and had that dumb flashback which supposedly makes her love Sasuke automatically. But there is a pattern here , Kakshi couldn't kill Sasuke too ,does that mean romantic angst or something? Hm.. dunno . She loves the guy , sure , but that doesn't make the confession she gave to Naruto was a 100 % a lie . There is a lot of contradiction because of those throw away sentences which many people so hard believe in, just saying.
 

We never got a conclusion of this moment from Naruto's part, neither a talk between Naruto and Sakura, so how could he now "i think she loves me", off-panel development on NS?

Well, Sai explained a big part why she does that , plus there is the fact that Naruto met his mother who gave him a tip how is Sakura feeling exactly. I mean why would you ask your mother how did she fall in love with your father in the first place? I think the chat with Kushina gave that idea.
 

Hell no, i think he was either joking which ends up with him once again stating he wants to be Sakura's boyfriend, it's not like NH fans who do this "It's a joke" jump page and ignore.

I'm sorry but kishi spend the whole manga to avoid Naruto witnessing Sakura's devotion to him and even f**cked up Sakura's confession to prevent this and then in off-panel he resolve this?

I cant buy this.

 

 

Hm.. I've yet to see Naruto use his feelings or Sakura's or anyone else as a butt of a joke. He was always hit/punched because he has no filter he stood true to himself no matter what. What NH fans think is their problem.
Its not yet resolved , she hasn't fully acknowledged her feelings for Naruto or let go of Sasuke completely , or has  she ?

 

Edited by Psychox, 03 October 2013 - 12:07 PM.

[Psychox]

^For the sake of suspense .. or the fact that she still loves Sasuke one of the two.. We do have the right to question her feelings though from those scenes 540,635.

[rocci]

@codus
I will give you the answer:
1. Chapter 3
2. Naruto->sakura->sasuke->itachi/himself/uchiha/revenge/power/naruto
3. Canon in the end of manga.

Last one kishi writing style.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I've been wondering why mangastream which is driven by fans mainly, translated 632 and added that sentence ''I will never poke fun of Sakura- chan again'' ? If Naruto wasn't talking about the confession in 631 would've they put something else ? Something less obviously faked? Why would they do that? To mask the fact that the confession had parts of it that were true?Or they ignore everything that went in last  arc and assume that the confession is automatically fake .

He didn't believe her ,because he had a lot of flashbacks she caring for Sasuke and Naruto was just ignored most of the time, he didn't witness the smiles nor the warm looks she gives him regularly. And i agree, Kishimoto threw dust in Naruto's eyes with that ''she went to save him from darkness because she loves him so much she will end his life'' , but 95 % it supports NS and that shouldn't be left out like that.She couldn't kill Sasuke and had that dumb flashback which supposedly makes her love Sasuke automatically. But there is a pattern here , Kakshi couldn't kill Sasuke too ,does that mean romantic angst or something? Hm.. dunno . She loves the guy , sure , but that doesn't make the confession she gave to Naruto was a 100 % a lie . There is a lot of contradiction because of those throw away sentences which many people so hard believe in, just saying.
 

I didnt bring up this subject and neither i do care, it's same thing that happened on the shippuuden. 

Also what he did on 631 probably was a joke or he was afraid of something, but those moments doesnt relate at all, because the joke he told or what he said wasnt meant to poke fun of Sakura, but to prevent hearing Sakura's response.

 

Where? Kakashi was going to kill Sasuke but Naruto stopped him and went to use rasengan.

She cant simply say "i love you Naruto" and then admits that she knew she could not kill Sasuke because she loves him, it doesnt make sense.

There's no contradiction on admiting that the confession is a lie, people can keep up saying she was being 100% honest or even saying half truth but the summit contradicts it all.

 

 

 

Well, Sai explained a big part why she does that , plus there is the fact that Naruto met his mother who gave him a tip how is Sakura feeling exactly. I mean why would you ask your mother how did she fall in love with your father in the first place? I think the chat with Kushina gave that idea.
 

Hm.. I've yet to see Naruto use his feelings or Sakura's or anyone else as a butt of a joke. He was always hit/punched because he has no filter he stood true to himself no matter what. What NH fans think is their problem.
Its not yet resolved , she hasn't fully acknowledged her feelings for Naruto or let go of Sasuke completely , or has  she ?
 

She didnt give any tip about how Sakura is feeling, that's supposition.

The problem is with people thinking "it's a joke" dismiss, "she lied on the confession" ignore.

I felt that people is afraid of admiting such things as a joke or even a lie, one of the things i can tell is that most of people are more worried about what the other people think instead of what you think, i still doesnt understand why people think Sakura was honest on the confession, and then i remember that it's because of this.

 

I dont see any problem on thinking it was either a joke or Naruto being afraid of Sakura's response and on the confession thinking it's a lie.

 

If Naruto was meant to be serious why he interrupted Sakura then? If he believe she's more or less his girlfriend he would've let her answer.

 

- In the end he still loves her obviously but he's afraid of her answer because he believes she loves Sasuke and doesnt want to hear what she has to say because she probably could say "yes" but he believes she loves Sasuke. So he says "more or less".

 

On the confession, she didnt confronted Sasuke before that, she was crying just like Ino in front of Naruto for Sasuke, she leaves and then due to offpanel she realizes magically that she strongly loves Naruto romantically wise and goes there to tell him that she loves him and Naruto is an ass because he didnt returned Sakura's genuine feelings.

 

Instead of she thought she was a burden to Naruto and the only things she thought off on redeeming herself to Naruto was either "returning his feelings " or "killing Sasuke" and taking the blame by herself.

She goes there and make a fake confession, it fails she goes to kill Sasuke all this because she wanted to lift Naruto's burden, in the end she's happy because Naruto's burden of the promise was lift and that Naruto showed her that he doesnt not view her as a burden.

 

- In the end showed that Sakura wanted to return Naruto's feelings and viewed him romantically wise on a serious approach despite not loving Naruto because she has feelings for Sasuke, showed that at least she opened her eyes and acknowledged Naruto on that way.

 

That's why i prefer the "lie" because makes more sense.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 03 October 2013 - 12:42 PM.

[awesome sauce dude]

Still don't understand how its a joke. I mean why would naruto joke about something like that, he hates jokes about this stuff. Plus his father, that he's never met, is alive and he decides to make jokes? Still not sure that it was a joke, but either way naruto still has feelings for her because he still wants her to be his girlfriend.

[Psychox]

I didnt bring up this subject and neither i do care, it's same thing that happened on the shippuuden. 

Also what he did on 631 probably was a joke or he was afraid of something, but those moments doesnt relate at all, because the joke he told or what he said wasnt meant to poke fun of Sakura, but to prevent hearing Sakura's response.

I know, but i just gave it thought since there was that sentence in there and it looked like it was force fitted in the conversation , it just came so... ''natural'' that one could confuse it easily with the girlfriend comment . Why would he be afraid? He was afraid of Gaara and hesitated in fighting him,but after remembering Haku's words and the the fact that Gaara's sand arm was about to crush Sakura and Sasuke was out cold, drove him to gather courage and defeated Gaara. I don't see the motive of him being scared. Well, i think differently, Kishi did it on purpose when he gave Naruto the opportunity to answer , for the sake of suspense, but that's my opinion.

 

Where? Kakashi was going to kill Sasuke but Naruto stopped him and went to use rasengan.

She cant simply say "i love you Naruto" and then admits that she knew she could not kill Sasuke because she loves him, it doesnt make sense.

There's no contradiction on admiting that the confession is a lie, people can keep up saying she was being 100% honest or even saying half truth but the summit contradicts it all.

 

 

He tried to brake through Sasuke's darkness when he saved Sakura from the first murder attempt under the bridge. He reminded Sasuke of their first chat before his defection from the village in part 1. The second scene he was ready to kill him, but Naruto took the liberty in attacking first and broke through the walls Sasuke had build in front of him.Kakashi didn’t try and attack/kill Sasuke right away that = romantic angst.

We could assume that she loves both of them,but how much ? Now, that is a different story since for the first time ever she acknowledges Sasuke’s a real problem, not exactly to her but to Naruto and the world.

She  wanted to kill him to save him from darkness according to Sai. Of course she failed to that as well - this is the contradiction,but if she REALLY loved him, she would've killed him. But if that makes her confession 100% fake, i will agree halfway for the sake of the argument.
 

She didnt give any tip about how Sakura is feeling, that's supposition.

The problem is with people thinking "it's a joke" dismiss, "she lied on the confession" ignore.

I felt that people is afraid of admiting such things as a joke or even a lie, one of the things i can tell is that most of people are more worried about what the other people think instead of what you think, i still doesnt understand why people think Sakura was honest on the confession, and then i remember that it's because of this.

 

From my point of view, the reason she stated why she started liking/loving him were true, we also see that she has a genuine smile when talking about that. What i am saying is she was not ''IN love'' with Naruto,but she loves him to a stage that can be said more than platonic level. I think it deals with her character trait ''she doesn't understand men'' and of course that she didn't give a though about her feelings for Naruto she was selfless all the time thinking about his feelings above all.
But that's my view , so it doesn't make the confession true or what not.
 

I dont see any problem on thinking it was either a joke or Naruto being afraid of Sakura's response and on the confession thinking it's a lie.

 

 

 He takes her feelings a bit too serious to make a joke like that , if you recall he thought that she was joking at first and he doesn't like that kind of jokes.
 

If Naruto was meant to be serious why he interrupted Sakura then? If he believe she's more or less his girlfriend he would've let her answer.

 

Sakura didn't have a speech bubble or even began talking in the mater, Minato asked her ,but Naruto stole the moment. Kishi did it intentionally , but that's what i think. Or just to point out that he never stopped viewing her as his GF (love interest) ,because after the confession she never heard if he likes her or not..
 

- In the end he still loves her obviously but he's afraid of her answer because he believes she loves Sasuke and doesnt want to hear what she has to say because she probably could say "yes" but he believes she loves Sasuke. So he says "more or less".

 

 

Well, that's arguable he hasn't claimed or openly admitted that she was his girlfriend since the POAL . After the Samurai bridge shenanigans we see him or Kakashi commenting that the ''burden 'has been lifted'' so i think that he isn't full of disbelieve that much , but that's just me. 
 

On the confession, she didnt confronted Sasuke before that, she was crying just like Ino in front of Naruto for Sasuke, she leaves and then due to offpanel she realizes magically that she strongly loves Naruto romantically wise and goes there to tell him that she loves him and Naruto is an ass because he didnt returned Sakura's genuine feelings.

 

The difference between Ino and Sakura crying is showed on many panels , just look at her first reaction after she head '' Even i can tell that he really loves you'' , there was no Sasuke there mentioned. In other words, she was devastated when she head that she was breaking his heart unintentionally. I think she decided to give him a chance since he had done so much for her.

Though you've got a point that when asked she was gonna respond without thinking that she loves ''prince'' Sasuke'' romantically '' , we don't know why she loves Sasuke, we know that she just does..  I think it deals with her insecurities more than actual love , thinking that getting the ''great guy'' was gonna fix all that . If you think about it she started as an individual full of them .

 

Instead of she thought she was a burden to Naruto and the only things she thought off on redeeming herself to Naruto was either "returning his feelings " or "killing Sasuke" and taking the blame by herself.

She goes there and make a fake confession, it fails she goes to kill Sasuke all this because she wanted to lift Naruto's burden, in the end she's happy because Naruto's burden of the promise was lift and that Naruto showed her that he doesnt not view her as a burden.

 

Terrible options by the way.. She didn't stop and think for a second of her feelings for Naruto , she was more focused to get rid of his burden and Sasuke in the process.
 

- In the end showed that Sakura wanted to return Naruto's feelings and viewed him romantically wise on a serious approach despite not loving Naruto because she has feelings for Sasuke, showed that at least she opened her eyes and acknowledged Naruto on that way.

After those scenes + 540 and 635 yeah.
 

That's why i prefer the "lie" because makes more sense.

 

Again , for the sake of the argument i will agree half way that it was a ''lie'' ,but we all know that she holds more than she thinks or thought before the confession.
 

 

[TouKen4Life3g]

You know, I think it's funny that our new opponent in this debate thread is not NH or SS. It's.....Ourselves!

[awesome sauce dude]

Lol narusaku4life is right

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

 

 He takes her feelings a bit too serious to make a joke like that , if you recall he thought that she was joking at first and he doesn't like that kind of jokes.
 

Sakura didn't have a speech bubble or even began talking in the mater, Minato asked her ,but Naruto stole the moment. Kishi did it intentionally , but that's what i think. Or just to point out that he never stopped viewing her as his GF (love interest) ,because after the confession she never heard if he likes her or not..
 

Well, that's arguable he hasn't claimed or openly admitted that she was his girlfriend since the POAL . After the Samurai bridge shenanigans we see him or Kakashi commenting that the ''burden 'has been lifted'' so i think that he isn't full of disbelieve that much , but that's just me. 
 

The difference between Ino and Sakura crying is showed on many panels , just look at her first reaction after she head '' Even i can tell that he really loves you'' , there was no Sasuke there mentioned. In other words, she was devastated when she head that she was breaking his heart unintentionally. I think she decided to give him a chance since he had done so much for her.

Though you've got a point that when asked she was gonna respond without thinking that she loves ''prince'' Sasuke'' romantically '' , we don't know why she loves Sasuke, we know that she just does..  I think it deals with her insecurities more than actual love , thinking that getting the ''great guy'' was gonna fix all that . If you think about it she started as an individual full of them .

 

Terrible options by the way.. She didn't stop and think for a second of her feelings for Naruto , she was more focused to get rid of his burden and Sasuke in the process.
 

After those scenes + 540 and 635 yeah.
 

Again , for the sake of the argument i will agree half way that it was a ''lie'' ,but we all know that she holds more than she thinks or thought before the confession.
 

 

 

 

I was talking about the moment when she heard that Sasuke joined the akatsuki and after that, the kumo ninja asked what Sasuke is to her and she was interrupted.

Naruto was sad and that showed that the promise was indeed a burden, he left himself to be punched by those guys and went to talk with the Raikage to remove the order to kill Sasuke, Sai saw half of Naruto's misery and decided to tell Sakura about Naruto's feelings because he correctly believed that something had to be done to fix that.

Sai didnt wanted Naruto to keep going on martyrizing himself because of that promise.

 

Sakura did cried yes, and she did because what Naruto was going though was horrible, being punched by those guys and going to talk with the raikage despite everyone knowing it's useless.

In other words, the promise was lifted yes, and Naruto got his conclusion about Sasuke.

Let's say it got fixed after the summit.

 

Point out that her confession wasnt selfish, it was selfless, not meant to be a real confession.

She said "Naruto i love you"  which Naruto was even believing until suddenly she asks him to forget about the promise.

That's not a confession, she didnt thought about her feelings for him because if she did they would be a couple right now, but instead she thought about all the things he did to her, it was more like, "i want to return Naruto's feelings".

 

Love in essence is a bit selfish, even Naruto doesnt not make an exception on this, he cant hide how sad he would be if she choses Sasuke part 1 and even the promise when he said he was also feelings heartbreak.

But he was mature enough to not be an ass and say "you no luv me so go f*** you"

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 03 October 2013 - 02:43 PM.

[Psychox]

You know, I think it's funny that our new opponent in this debate thread is not NH or SS. It's.....Ourselves!

 

Well, i take it as a friendly controversy , i am not gonna throw a chair or flip a table or something , after all Sakura is a complicated creature and that confession is till this day argued.
 

 

I was talking about the moment when she heard that Sasuke joined the akatsuki and after that, the kumo ninja asked what Sasuke is to her and she was interrupted.

Naruto was sad and that showed that the promise was indeed a burden, he left himself to be punched by those guys and went to talk with the Raikage to remove the order to kill Sasuke, Sai saw half of Naruto's misery and decided to tell Sakura about Naruto's feelings because he correctly believed that something had to be done to fix that.

Sai didnt wanted Naruto to keep going on martyring himself because of that promise.

 

Sakura did cried yes, and she did because what Naruto was going though was horrible, being punched by those guys and going to talk with the raikage despite everyone knowing it's useless.

In other words, the promise was lifted yes, and Naruto got his conclusion about Sasuke.

Let's say it got fixed after the promise.

Yeah, i mentioned that moment in the post below ^-^.

But the flashback that she got was how he made the poal in bringing Sasuke back, that's how she understood how much he loves her without saying ''i love you'' etc.

Yup,the burden was lifted.

 

 

[ramenanmitsu]

Kishi said that he made Sakura to be a realistic girl. Are there any real girl out there on this site who can explain how Sakura operates and thinks?

 

Thinking about what Sakura might be thinking makes my head hurt. 

[TouKen4Life3g]

Kishi said that he made Sakura to be a realistic girl. Are there any real girl out there on this site who can explain how Sakura operates and thinks?
 
Thinking about what Sakura might be thinking makes my head hurt. 

To be honest, a realistic girl will be more complicated. No offense. Well, I guess it depends where you're from.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Kishi said that he made Sakura to be a realistic girl. Are there any real girl out there on this site who can explain how Sakura operates and thinks?

 

Thinking about what Sakura might be thinking makes my head hurt. 

I think currently she's not realistic anymore.

 

But being honest i ship NS mostly because i'm Naruto-centric.

I cant help to think that Naruto indeed deserves someome better than Sakura, but there's no one on the manga.

NH fans might push to Hinata but it's an insult trying to compare her with Sakura.

 

When Minato compared Sakura to Kushina it was mostly because of her tsundere trait because if i look to their background.
Kushina by far had the best background for a female character, she was strong by herself, when people used to mock at her insecurity she beat up the boys while Sakura used to cry, growed a bit and became like that mostly because of her crush for Sasuke.
Kushina had a dream to be the first female hokage but let Minato take the position because she was happy and that's what she wanted the most, Sakura in 649 chapters did not realized that yet, despite all the hints and the reality checks.

mostly important, Sakura doesnt have self respect, Sasuke tried to kill her 3 times and Sasuke was cold to her mostly the time on part 1, but yet she batlantly admits she loves Sasuke with no second thoughts, that's not a realistic girl to me, it's just Kishi's flaw to portray an heroine decently.

 

When looking at Obito it's worse, his relationship does mirrors NS, showing they supporting each other just like NS does, but Obito went more far than Naruto, he gave up his life to save Rin and before that he was willing to fail a mission that would change the course of the war all this to save her and in the end, Kakashi told Rin about Obito's feelings for her and she batlanly and with no second thoughts confessed her feelings for Kakashi.

I would say out of there, Naruto's is by far the one who has plenty of reasons to move on, but he did not and he kept on his dream to be with his sweetheart, since there's no girl that is better than Sakura so there's nothing left other than me rooting for him to succeed, and hope Kishi works to really develop Sakura's character and depict her more like a heroine.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 03 October 2013 - 03:11 PM.