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[Fyuria'sLeo]

No really. If you want, I can give several links to topics on other forums where I defended NS as pairing or Sakura as character. Im just being realistic. Considering how Naruto plot is currently going, you cant blame people for having doubts about NS.

Agreed, with how Kishi's been writing this lately I even have my doubts about this pairings road. Don't get me wrong I love NS but I have my doubts.

[Anguyen92]

We just have to have the power of positive thinking and think that, you know, the time where NS is totally going to solidify as the final canon pairing without any shenanigans is coming. That said, in a sense, in a hypothetical situation, what events would have to happen to get to the point where you know that NS is not going to be a possibility?

Edited by Anguyen92, 29 March 2012 - 07:11 PM.

[FoolishYoungling]

what events would have to happen to get to the point where you know that NS is not going to be a possibility?

Naruto or Sakura gets aids... yep.. that's the only way, deal with it.

[ramenanmitsu]

Off topic I'm beginning to think that most of the people that's been posting on this thread who are new and the ones giving negative view of things way more often than normal, wouldn't surprise me that they are SS fans in disguise.

I agree. And I'm not talking about people who are posting negative views and are frustrated about Sakura's character. That's me.
I'm talking about people who are posting negative views about NaruSaku and at the same time posting positive views about SasuSaku.
-Posting that the fake confession kills all the development that NS has had and at the same time ignoring that Sasuke trying to kill Sakura three times kills all the development SasuSaku had in part 1.
-Saying that since the manga is heading it's climax, it's impossible for Sakura to fall in love with Naruto(when they had the most developments) whereas it's completely possible for a psycho Sasuke to fall in love with Sakura(when they had no developments)
-Saying that Sakura thinking sadly about Sasuke in the end means that she will choose him, whereas Sakura knowing all the good things about Naruto means that she won't fall in love with him.
-Saying that NaruSaku is nearly impossible to happen because the only proof is that it's a main guy x main girl pairing but at the same time saying that Kishi is heading SasuSaku direction when the only proof is popularity.

Of course there are times people play the devil's advocate and point out things from the SS point of view in this thread, but usually we don't see such an illogical, double standard post at the favor of SS. Not to mention every point that can be said negatively about SS are conveniently ignored.

Likewise with the person who attacks people pointing out Hinata's inability to fight and at the same time trying to convince that Sakura can't beat Hinata without facts whatsoever. Must be Sakura's tsundere personality that is making her impossible to beat Hinata.

People can call me mean, suspicious or whatever. I apologize in advance.

Edited by narunarunaru, 29 March 2012 - 10:42 PM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

I agree. And I'm not talking about people who are posting negative views and are frustrated about Sakura's character. That's me.
I'm talking about people who are posting negative views about NaruSaku and at the same time posting positive views about SasuSaku.
-Posting that the fake confession kills all the development that NS has had and at the same time ignoring that Sasuke trying to kill Sakura three times kills all the development SasuSaku had in part 1.
-Saying that since the manga is heading it's climax, it's impossible for Sakura to fall in love with Naruto(when they had the most developments) whereas it's completely possible for a psycho Sasuke to fall in love with Sakura(when they had no developments)
-Saying that Sakura thinking sadly about Sasuke in the end means that she will choose him, whereas Sakura knowing all the good things about Naruto means that she won't fall in love with him.
-Saying that NaruSaku is nearly impossible to happen because the only proof is that it's a main guy x main girl pairing but at the same time saying that Kishi is heading SasuSaku direction when the only proof is popularity.

Of course there are times people play the devil's advocate and point out things from the SS point of view in this thread, but usually we don't see such an illogical, double standard post at the favor of SS. Not to mention every point that can be said negatively about SS are conveniently ignored.

Likewise with the person who attacks people pointing out Hinata's inability to fight and at the same time trying to convince that Sakura can't beat Hinata without facts whatsoever. Must be Sakura's tsundere personality that is making her impossible to beat Hinata.

People can call me mean, suspicious or whatever. I apologize in advance.

Don't bea yourself up, narunarunaru. You bring up some valid points. I know a lot of people fail to see that Sakura DOES love Naruto AND Sasuke, given she only lied about not caring for Sasuke anymore when trying to stop Naruto from pursuing him due to everyone's decision to kill him due to the threat he was. Plus, like you said, naruto and Sakura've had the most developement together in Team 7, while the one thing besides Naruto seeing Sasuke as a brother that developed between the guys was their rivalry due to Sasuke's superiority AND inferiority complexes as well as Naruto's own growth, be it from his being in the Uzumaki clan or being a late bloomer yet with amazing potential...

[ramenanmitsu]

Don't bea yourself up, narunarunaru. You bring up some valid points. I know a lot of people fail to see that Sakura DOES love Naruto AND Sasuke, given she only lied about not caring for Sasuke anymore when trying to stop Naruto from pursuing him due to everyone's decision to kill him due to the threat he was. Plus, like you said, naruto and Sakura've had the most developement together in Team 7, while the one thing besides Naruto seeing Sasuke as a brother that developed between the guys was their rivalry due to Sasuke's superiority AND inferiority complexes as well as Naruto's own growth, be it from his being in the Uzumaki clan or being a late bloomer yet with amazing potential...

Sorry, actually I'm one of the people who fail to see that Sakura is already in love with Naruto. Maybe it's that she doesn't realize that she is in love with him or it could be that she is going to fall in love with him.

But other than that yeah, you're right.

Edited by narunarunaru, 29 March 2012 - 11:20 PM.

[Phantom_999]

well i don't think their is any time left for kishi to put NS moments now moreover sakura still loves sasuke which was easily proven after the fake confession and i am not able to imagine a scenario now where she will suddenly change her mind to naruto after all what we all thought to be romantic development was really blown off by the fake confession. As for chapter 540 we interpret sakura was sad that she had crush on sasuke which is not true(we just do it because we can't believe that it is such a slap on NARUSAKU). Chapter 573 yeah u might be correct.

Though their is one more big problem that now manga is really at it's climax and i don't see how will kishi suddenly change her feelings towards naruto in romantic way after her fake confession which took so much time and development to make people think she has developed interest in NARUTO but no she has only developed friendly relation and not romantic.

I think it is way more easier to make a person who loved noone to start loving someone whereas making someone(sakura or naruto) develop feelings for someone even after he/she already loves someone so much is really difficult(sakura towards naruto and naruto towards hinata)


As far as i see the only things supporting narusaku right now is mainguyxmaingirl


whereas

sausaku has more chances since when sasuke becomes good he might show feelings for sakura and this pairing was(and might still be) the favourite het pairing in japan so i think kishi is leaning towards sasusaku after all this time and development!!

Yes i still believe and hope narusaku has chances of happening but until some romantic moment is shown(though it seems quite impossible now, i mean war is going on and chapter 540 and naruto really is not showing any romantic feelings) it becoming a reality is nearly impossible.


These are my thoughts and i am not trying to be offensive it's just that i try to find proofs for my favourite pairing by trying to collect proofs against it and get it proved wrong but right now i really don't see a valid reason which proves chapter 540 was anti-sasusaku !!!

Whatever floats your boat. But first of all how do you know That NS has ended since the confession? I seem to remember that when Sasuke and Naruto attacked each other in the manga AND anime, Sakura showed only concern for Naruto and didn't even cry out Sasuke's name during their clash. If Sakura was still in love with Sasuke, what was stopping her from showing concern for him? Not to mention If Naruto was rejecting her confession wouldn't they be bitter with each other? Hmm? It was not her confession he as rejecting, it was the fact that Sakura said she had no feelings for Sasuke anymore, So that confession wasn't completely fake. Are you saying she can't be in love with two people? I'm sure She still loves Naruto just as she holds on to Sasuke somewhat, What's more important is who she loves more and will pick in the end. Second the mainguy X maingirl is not the only reason for NS it's because they've been showing spending time together, show concern for each other, and understand each other's feelings. If the main guy and main girl thing is the only thing holding them together then WHY would Kishi even waste his time giving them romance scene? He should just pair them off randomly then. And since when was shipping popularity the deciding for a couple? if such things were SUPPOSED to mean anything then why haven't crack pairings happened then? Yaoi pairings in Naruto are more popular than even SS, did you know that? It should be a gay manga then not even SS. Now I mean no offence by this but if you're that pessimistic about NS, others would wonder if you're even shipping them in the first place. Just saying, It DOES raise eyebrows

[FoolishYoungling]

Agreed, with how Kishi's been writing this lately I even have my doubts about this pairings road. Don't get me wrong I love NS but I have my doubts.

Naruto loves Sakura. No more doubts now?

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

I doubt NaruSaku sometimes but not incredibly heavily. It is possible that NaruSaku won't happen but unlikely. But I refuse to believe that SasuSaku has any chance of happening.
That pairing was dead from the beginning which is only being reinforced in Part 2. Sakura's feelings for Sasuke were brought up because Kishi didn't want
us to forget that Sakura still has feelings for Sasuke. He didn't bring it up to demolish her character(Unlike what some say), it brought it up for character development. Sakura isn't fully
developed yet, and it is waiting for the right time for her to fully move on from Sasuke. SasuSaku won't happen for many reasons. One, Sasuke never carried any romantic feelings
for Sakura, even when he was half-decent in Part 1. I have no doubt Sasuke will live and be redeemed, but Sasuke will never be the same person he was before
he found out the truth about Itachi. Sasuke has seen and gone through too many things since then, and will always be emotionally damaged to a certain extent. Though Naruto
will be a huge part in retaining pieces of his former self, Sasuke has never cared about romance and he will become even more emotionally distant than he ever was, despite being
on the side of good again. He will never be able to open his heart to someone in a romantic context and only maintain close friendships. That is why Sasuke will never be with anyone, let alone Sakura.
He will be alone the rest of his life.

Sakura on the other hand is different. Kishimoto, from what I have seen and heard, seems to have a fondness for her character and would never destroy her character by her going with Sasuke.
She is not the same fangirl that she was in Part 1. Sakura has grown up since then and won't fly into Sasuke's arms again like some poor SS/NS fics portray her too . Sakura has feelings for Sasuke still
but she is obviously disgusted by it. Sakura doesn't want to love a criminal or a murderer. Logically, her mind is telling her that, but her heart won't let go of Sasuke yet because her deep emotional
bond is still there which shows her as more compassionate. Sakura will forgive Sasuke for everything and would never hate him, but she will always be wary and it would take her a very long time for
Sasuke to have her trust back.

NaruSaku will happen. I'm positive. Sakura's feelings are unrealized and her confession was to protect Naruto. She still didn't know her feelings which is why it didn't seem 100% truthful at the time.
She just went on a whim to fit the situation, when she herself had no idea of her feelings for Naruto. Naruto's feelings haven't been brought up lately because we should already know they are still
there, and besides that, Naruto is in a battle right now. Why would it randomly show his feelings at a time like this? There have been romanctic intereactions on Sakura's part(Two hugs, Feeding Scene, Yamato's Unfinished Sentence, Flirting) So if it really isn't love, its at least feelings of love. That is why I doubt NaruSaku won't happen but if it doesn't,then there will be no pairings, since the others are less developed.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 30 March 2012 - 12:46 AM.

[AzureWaters]

I agree. And I'm not talking about people who are posting negative views and are frustrated about Sakura's character. That's me.
I'm talking about people who are posting negative views about NaruSaku and at the same time posting positive views about SasuSaku.
-Posting that the fake confession kills all the development that NS has had and at the same time ignoring that Sasuke trying to kill Sakura three times kills all the development SasuSaku had in part 1.
-Saying that since the manga is heading it's climax, it's impossible for Sakura to fall in love with Naruto(when they had the most developments) whereas it's completely possible for a psycho Sasuke to fall in love with Sakura(when they had no developments)
-Saying that Sakura thinking sadly about Sasuke in the end means that she will choose him, whereas Sakura knowing all the good things about Naruto means that she won't fall in love with him.
-Saying that NaruSaku is nearly impossible to happen because the only proof is that it's a main guy x main girl pairing but at the same time saying that Kishi is heading SasuSaku direction when the only proof is popularity.

Of course there are times people play the devil's advocate and point out things from the SS point of view in this thread, but usually we don't see such an illogical, double standard post at the favor of SS. Not to mention every point that can be said negatively about SS are conveniently ignored.

Likewise with the person who attacks people pointing out Hinata's inability to fight and at the same time trying to convince that Sakura can't beat Hinata without facts whatsoever. Must be Sakura's tsundere personality that is making her impossible to beat Hinata.

People can call me mean, suspicious or whatever. I apologize in advance.

Venting should be allowed on this site, as its exclusively for NaruSaku fans and we should all be able to post our concerns and get supportive feedback in turn without the angry and critical responses I've been seeing.

Its doubtful that anyone is a fake fan, but not everyone is confident all the time. Instead of being irritated that someone is posting something pessimistic, its better to encourage and reassure them while not having the "Are you crazy?" attitude.


At any rate, I believe that NaruSaku has a decent chance of happening, but there are some things that need to change in order for this pairing to become canon. Among a few things, the way Sakura feels about Naruto.

[Fenris]

Doubts? What?



Just because we haven't seen things lately, during a war does not mean that anything has changed. It's the same thing as before, NH has nothing, SS has nothing, and what do we have? A winning bet.

[Super Boom]

Venting should be allowed on this site, as its exclusively for NaruSaku fans and we should all be able to post our concerns and get supportive feedback in turn without the angry and critical responses I've been seeing.

Its doubtful that anyone is a fake fan, but not everyone is confident all the time. Instead of being irritated that someone is posting something pessimistic, its better to encourage and reassure them while not having the "Are you crazy?" attitude.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I think some people just take shipping really seriously (including myself sometimes), so a few members get defensive pretty quick when a few contrary opinions are thrown out there. I guess it's good to be passionate, but I agree that reassurance is much better than indignance.

That being said, even with the random N/H stuff that's been tossed in the manga recently, I don't foresee a conclusion other than N/S if Kishi stays consistent with what he's written. Out of three main unrequited pairs, Naruto's feelings for Sakura are the only ones that have been portrayed as being completely selfless. Sasu/Saku has never really been portrayed in a positive light, IMO, and Naru/Hina's highest point in the manga was followed by an N/S moment, as well as one of the most tender Thank you's in the entire story. Sakura may still need to get over her feelings for Sasuke for N/S to happen, but I think most of us believe there will be a final N/S moment to cement Sakura's feelings and N/S as a couple.

Of course, this is assuming Kishi is maintaining consistency with what he's written. If he's really just making it up as he writes, then really, anything goes. And I guess I don't really see the merit in arguing under that assumption. Of course, I won't deny people that right either.

Edited by Boom...Winning, 30 March 2012 - 02:09 AM.

[Fenris]

I've been a bit worried on how pierott will handle the 540 moment... :/
Instead of the evil looking Sasuke, I'm thinking they might put the good Sasuke or something.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

I've been a bit worried on how pierott will handle the 540 moment... :/
Instead of the evil looking Sasuke, I'm thinking they might put the good Sasuke or something.

Knowing them, that is entirely possible . Look at Hinata's confession in the anime for instance . Blown out of proportion, much?

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 30 March 2012 - 03:02 AM.

[Fenris]

Knowing them, that is entirely possible . Look at Hinata's confession in the anime for instance . Blown out of proportion, much?

Yeah
It's funny cause in the game Ultimate Ninja Storm, her confession wasn't even a confession. She just literally jumped in the fight and died. No "I love you" or anything like that. (If i remember right, I mean. There could of been.. but there was literally no extra added. She just went in, died, and ... that's it.)

[FoolishYoungling]

Doubts? What?



Just because we haven't seen things lately, during a war does not mean that anything has changed. It's the same thing as before, NH has nothing, SS has nothing, and what do we have? A winning bet.

YES! That's the spirit I've been waiting to see again for so long!

[AzureWaters]

Nah. It would be out of place for Sakura to look sad if she was remembering a good Sasuke. He'll be looking the same as he did in the manga, but its possible they could alter a few words from the love letter fodder or something.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Yeah
It's funny cause in the game Ultimate Ninja Storm, her confession wasn't even a confession. She just literally jumped in the fight and died. No "I love you" or anything like that. (If i remember right, I mean. There could of been.. but there was literally no extra added. She just went in, died, and ... that's it.)

Well probably because the game are just about the major battles, not the romantic issues. The new Naruto Game that I got recently (Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm Generations) didn't even mention
Hinata or Sakura's confession. It just skipped it. Though I am annoyed to still see when Naruto and Hinata are teamed up together in the game, it again says "Secret Lovers" just like the last one. NH fanservice, whether in the anime or game, annoys me, especially when it's a complete lie(Hinata and Naruto=Secret Lovers. As if! )

[Fenris]

Well probably because the game are just about the major battles, not the romantic issues. The new Naruto Game that I got recently (Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm Generations) didn't even mention
Hinata or Sakura's confession. It just skipped it. Though I am annoyed to still see when Naruto and Hinata are teamed up together in the game, it again says "Secret Lovers" just like the last one. NH fanservice, whether in the anime or game, annoys me, especially when it's a complete lie(Hinata and Naruto=Secret Lovers. As if! )

WHAT!? O___O!
....Why would they even add in secret lovers. It makes no sense at all.

Edited by Fenris, 30 March 2012 - 03:25 AM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Well probably because the game are just about the major battles, not the romantic issues. The new Naruto Game that I got recently (Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm Generations) didn't even mention
Hinata or Sakura's confession. It just skipped it. Though I am annoyed to still see when Naruto and Hinata are teamed up together in the game, it again says "Secret Lovers" just like the last one. NH fanservice, whether in the anime or game, annoys me, especially when it's a complete lie(Hinata and Naruto=Secret Lovers. As if! )

It's supposedly mean to be Secret Love due to Hinata's one-sided crush on Naruto.