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[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

Guess you're right. But really, I'm stuffed that us, NS fans, always have to be the good guys who say that yes, SS and NH is a possibility but others brush NS like it's nothing. Really, now!

Are you NS fans, like, five year olds? Because other people's bad behaviour is an excuse to children who don't know any better but adults and people on the their teens should know better already. You people can behave yourselves even if some NH and SS fans are being sh*tty to you. If the others can't behave, well, makes you just look better, doesn't it?

BTW, I have always always always on this site kept mentioning that I think that NS has a chance. Please stop doing this ridiculous play where NS fans are teh best and SS and NH fans silly, in denial, deluded and the bad guys. Pretty please.

[Gravenimage]

This post is pure gold, i dunno why some people are making things complicated, and no im not gonna point fingers, but seriously this pairing is so obvious and well built, it goes with the flow of the story, hinata has NOTHING to do with the main plot, that alone speaks volume, hinata was just never meant to be, just face it, this pairing was planned from the beginning, believe it or not, it has so many twists and turns, thats when you know it actually has significance to the story, i might sound biased but its true, all these implications towards this pairing, the romantic hugs, the feeding, sakura being narutos girlfriend, these are all romantic, hugs are considered romantic in japan, girls in japan feed their boyfriends, and kushina told naruto to find a girlfriend like her and he did.Kishi saying that sakura loved sasuke, and that narutos close, him also saying the name of narutos son, and him saying that sakura is the only one that can control naruto (or something along those lines) him saying that the INNER sakura is close to naruto (or something like that) thr databooks, EVERYTHING, why do we continue to argue with others when everythings stacked in OUR favour? just throw in your logic, they can take it or toss it.

This post is awsome, good job graven, oh and btw ciardha got sick of the doubts and worries, she said that she needs a break, i read this on deviantart, and i dont blame her we just seriously need to calm down, this story of naruto is simple, dont look too deep into things, just enjoy and think logic!

Thanks and its true everything you said. The NS development is done all over the manga since part 1 but opposite fandoms will always disregard it and claim their pairings are canon when they have absolutely no solid evidence of it from the manga (adding the fillers from the anime is just sad).

On a side note I'm not suprised ciardha is taking a break from all of this especially since she's been absent since way before 615. I'm sure when she read that chapter and saw Naruto holding Hinata's hand she must have rolled her eyes and say Kishi is trolling with the fandom as usual.

[tricksie]

Are you NS fans, like, five year olds? Because other people's bad behaviour is an excuse to children who don't know any better but adults and people on the their teens should know better already. You people can behave yourselves even if some NH and SS fans are being sh*tty to you. If the others can't behave, well, makes you just look better, doesn't it?

BTW, I have always always always on this site kept mentioning that I think that NS has a chance. Please stop doing this ridiculous play where NS fans are teh best and SS and NH fans silly, in denial, deluded and the bad guys. Pretty please.

Let me just stop you right there before anyone even responds to this.

You have gone beyond was has acceptable on this board, from anyone, regardless of their fandom. Complaining is one thing, bashing is another. You are welcome to complain to your heart's content, but when you bash, you get to deal with me.

You can check your pm for a warn. And if you keep this up, you'll be getting a ban.

Everyone else, please do not respond to this post, it's been handled. Just let...it...go....

[James S Cassidy]

I am going to leave this here and see what happens. Don't worry, it is relevant, but I want to see what happens.

http://www.diffen.co...tuation_vs_Love

I am going to explain myself further to prevent confusion. With any of the relationships, which one shows the more qualities and what can be described as such? I found this randomly and was thinking about it and trying to tally up the events as such.

I am also curious as to with this
http://i1150.photobu...20Scans/320.png

This is from the third databook. While I know it is outdated, it is just curious the word choices used here.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 28 January 2013 - 08:53 PM.

[Gravenimage]

I am going to leave this here and see what happens. Don't worry, it is relevant, but I want to see what happens.

http://www.diffen.co...tuation_vs_Love

James you have done it again my friend that link post is EPIC. I read the difference and its so true. Love and what it stands for it has NS all over it, and it can be seen with Sakura's behavior with Naruto awesome.

[FoolishYoungling]

I am going to leave this here and see what happens. Don't worry, it is relevant, but I want to see what happens.

http://www.diffen.co...tuation_vs_Love

Ah yes, the SS vs NS comparison.

[Gravenimage]

Ah yes, the SS vs NS comparison.

I'm guessing Kishi read that article before writing his manga and that's why he chose to develop NS.

[Zatheko]

I am going to leave this here and see what happens. Don't worry, it is relevant, but I want to see what happens.

http://www.diffen.co...tuation_vs_Love

I am going to explain myself further to prevent confusion. With any of the relationships, which one shows the more qualities and what can be described as such? I found this randomly and was thinking about it and trying to tally up the events as such.

I am also curious as to with this
http://i1150.photobu...20Scans/320.png

This is from the third databook. While I know it is outdated, it is just curious the word choices used here.

Nice find james, and yeah the databook even calls hinatas "love" as infatuation, very good find indeed!

[James S Cassidy]

Nice find james, and yeah the databook even calls hinatas "love" as infatuation, very good find indeed!

You can actually thank Shadow Wolf for this one. He gave me the data sheets. lol

[FoolishYoungling]

the databook even calls hinatas "love" as infatuation

I can't believe it did that. I love you databook.

[T XD]

I am going to leave this here and see what happens. Don't worry, it is relevant, but I want to see what happens.

http://www.diffen.co...tuation_vs_Love

I am going to explain myself further to prevent confusion. With any of the relationships, which one shows the more qualities and what can be described as such? I found this randomly and was thinking about it and trying to tally up the events as such.

I am also curious as to with this
http://i1150.photobu...20Scans/320.png

This is from the third databook. While I know it is outdated, it is just curious the word choices used here.

Great from you James.

It clearly shows the best pairing, and the words from the third data book cemented it.

[Gravenimage]

Are you NS fans, like, five year olds? Because other people's bad behaviour is an excuse to children who don't know any better but adults and people on the their teens should know better already. You people can behave yourselves even if some NH and SS fans are being sh*tty to you. If the others can't behave, well, makes you just look better, doesn't it?

BTW, I have always always always on this site kept mentioning that I think that NS has a chance. Please stop doing this ridiculous play where NS fans are teh best and SS and NH fans silly, in denial, deluded and the bad guys. Pretty please.

I won't add more wood to the fire but I want to say something straight to you. I have never thought or seen NH and SS fans as" the bad guys" you're the one who claimed such and even calls us good guys, I don't see NS fans as the good guys either. I find it silly that you're calling one fandom the good guys and the other fandom as the bad guys is like all of this was a fight of good vs evil to you that's not how I see shipping (maybe that's how some fans might see it though). I don't have a problem with NH and SS everyone has their taste and they have a right to chose if they like one pairing (I will never oblige one to chose NS because in my own personal opinion is the one pairing with the most development in the manga). If you like NH or SS that's fine by me go ahead and ship your favorite pairing. My problem is you believe one panel of Naruto holding Hinata's hand (which we already know it has zero romantic intention from Naruto's part because he did it to only give her chakra) makes the NH pairing canon and you even try to twist and turn that panel into the ultimate evidence that makes the pairing for certain to become canon. Sorry one panel doesn't make a pairing canon, physical contact alone just isn't enough.

You're free to ship your pairing of choice as much as you like but it's enough when you're trying to make it like it's canon in the manga because the way a lot of us see it, that has very low chances of actually happening. You can say Kishi is waiting for the right moment to make NH canon, well we're still waiting and with the way the manga is heading I don't think it's going to last for another year. Kishi has had PLENTY of chances and opportunities to develop this pairing especially during the chunin exams, when Naruto first met Hinata in part 2 and when they went to search for Itachi and Sasuke that she was put in the same team as him. But no he hasn't done one single effort to develop any interaction between the two (he could have use those over 400+ chapters to develop NH). Its been 617 chapters 12 years since he started writing his manga and the only relationship that has romantic potential he's been developing is between Naruto and Sakura, heck he even wrote and directed a movie focusing in their bond. Why can he do the same with NH and SS??? That's about enough I won't continue repeating things I have pointed out from long ago.

This will be the last time I will reply to you because I have chosen to add you to my ignore list good day to you.

Edited by Gravenimage, 28 January 2013 - 09:53 PM.

[neoshadow]

I am also curious as to with this
http://i1150.photobu...20Scans/320.png

This is from the third databook. While I know it is outdated, it is just curious the word choices used here.

Interesting, where about was the manga when the 3rd databook came out if anyone knows?
Also is "In love with" pointing from Naruto to Sakura? Because it extends out like "Rivals" presumably to Sasuke as well, or does it mean both, Naruto is in love with Sakura who is in love with Sasuke. Whereas Hinata is infatuated with Naruto.

Edited by neoshadow, 28 January 2013 - 09:57 PM.

[sushi.]

Interesting, where about was the manga when the 3rd databook came out if anyone knows?
Also is "In love with" pointing from Naruto to Sakura? Because it extends out like "Rivals" presumably to Sasuke as well, or does it mean both, Naruto is in love with Sakura who is in love with Sasuke. Whereas Hinata is infatuated with Naruto.

That Kishi made a relationship map must mean that he's pretty serious about these bonds. Let's hope they're not only permanent on paper, but also in the manga. ^^

Except for Sakura's love for Sasuke of course, but I only care about Naruto and Sakura's love for eachother. :v

Edited by sushi., 28 January 2013 - 10:14 PM.

[T XD]

Interesting, where about was the manga when the 3rd databook came out if anyone knows?
Also is "In love with" pointing from Naruto to Sakura? Because it extends out like "Rivals" presumably to Sasuke as well, or does it mean both, Naruto is in love with Sakura who is in love with Sasuke. Whereas Hinata is infatuated with Naruto.

"In love with" is from Sakura to Sasuke but he's not appearing in this photo cause he's in the other half of it, and the "Rivals" is between Naruto and Sasuke.

[James S Cassidy]

Interesting, where about was the manga when the 3rd databook came out if anyone knows?
Also is "In love with" pointing from Naruto to Sakura? Because it extends out like "Rivals" presumably to Sasuke as well, or does it mean both, Naruto is in love with Sakura who is in love with Sasuke. Whereas Hinata is infatuated with Naruto.

It's a good question, isn't it?

Me and Shadow did discuss this, but we couldn't reach a definitive conclusion

[六道仙人]

Interesting, where about was the manga when the 3rd databook came out if anyone knows?
Also is "In love with" pointing from Naruto to Sakura? Because it extends out like "Rivals" presumably to Sasuke as well, or does it mean both, Naruto is in love with Sakura who is in love with Sasuke. Whereas Hinata is infatuated with Naruto.

bolded: The 3rd databook regards about manga's events until the revelation of Tobi to Sasuke about Itachi...

[MangaReader]

bolded: The 3rd databook regards about manga's events until the revelation of Tobi to Sasuke about Itachi...

Too bad we don't have a 4th/current databook... but I guess Kishi doesn't want relationships to be revealed anymore. Or, the data just serves no purpose anymore XD

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

So it was the arrow that said "in love with" from Sakura to Sasuke? I thought so because it seemed like the arrow was going the other direction and the "rivals" one was referring to Sasuke as well. Nothing we didn't know already. Though it's interesting to note that Hinata's arrow to Naruto said "infatuated". And it was even mentioned in the Third Databook that Hinata admired Naruto. I wonder ... is Kishi trying to hint she's confusing her admiration/obsession for him into love? I've honestly always thought that, but I always end up saying "Hinata loves Naruto".

I also love how decidely vague Kishimoto was being about anything involving NaruSaku. He didn't show an arrow saying he loves Sakura (and he didn't mention it in his character profile either), but then the arrow says "worries about" from Sakura to Naruto. Why not "friends with" instead?

As far as I know, Naruto's love was confirmed for Sakura in only one character chart and that was during the Pain Arc. All the other references were all manga.

[MangaReader]

I understand the difference between love and infatuation and I even get that the databook's are normally never wrong... but to keep an open mind and to try and understand our rival fandom, I'm just gonna assume Hinata "loves" Naruto

Edited by MangaReader, 28 January 2013 - 11:50 PM.