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Posted 28 January 2013 - 12:11 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jan 28 2013, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have always seen NH and SS happening in the manga to a 0.!% chance of actually happening why do I think like that? Kishi has shown me in his manga and that's how I see it. Seriously if Kishi wants NH and SS to be canon why does he keep pushing them aside, then use those pairings for fan service only to troll the fans big time and instead he focuses so much in developing Naruto and Sakura's relationship? I have never seen Kishi trolling NS, he has always left things incomplete for the pairing but never to a point he will troll fans like he does with NH and SS. Why does he has troll those pairings at the RTN movie only to focus on the NS bond? It just doesn't make sense for Kishi to start developing a pairing since the beginning only to troll it badly and make pairings he has ignored, not focus or troll them in the end.

I personally feel like kishi already made it clear that hes going for NS. The scene that made me sure of it were kushinas last words. I mean its already such a clear hint and its undeniable that sakura is like kushina. Its only fair for kishi to give fanservice to NH and SS, no matter what he does i see no problem with it since NS is already too obvious.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 02:25 PM

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Guess you're right. But really, I'm stuffed that us, NS fans, always have to be the good guys who say that yes, SS and NH is a possibility but others brush NS like it's nothing. Really, now!


Now that's not true. Some NaruHina/SasuSaku fans admit that NaruSaku has a chance, I've seen it before. I think the ones that say NS is dead or that it has no chance are just the more louder ones. Which is unfortunately the ones we happen to notice. sleep.gif

It's frustrating, I know. Every time I see people say NaruSaku is dead because there hasn't been a moment for a while or that NaruHina is so canon, I just shake my head. no.gif It really makes me mad, but we'll be better for it in the end when our pairing happens. happy.gif

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 03:05 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 28 2013, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Guess you're right. But really, I'm stuffed that us, NS fans, always have to be the good guys who say that yes, SS and NH is a possibility but others brush NS like it's nothing. Really, now!

You have read my mind. But, really, I don't care anymore if they don't listen. I've had enough. Still, not all of them deny it, but they're very few who acknowledge NS.

He had made NS clear and he doesn't need to spoon-feed the other fans anymore if they always deny it. So, I don't have a problem with fan servicing the NH fans and SS fans as long as Kishi doesn't over do it, since he's doing that to please them.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 03:05 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 28 2013, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Guess you're right. But really, I'm stuffed that us, NS fans, always have to be the good guys who say that yes, SS and NH is a possibility but others brush NS like it's nothing. Really, now!

If you don't like the feeling that you have to be the good guy, don't be. Be what you want, don't let the majority shape you. Because NH is the majority of the pairing fans, but you don't have to be silent in a corner. And when NH fans are overconfident and think their pairing is the only one, I just think to myself "he who laughs last laughs best". I am not counting the rational NH fans here. And we have people like this too, that are bashing NH fans because of our "logic". Irrationality is not something that is mainly done by NH fans, because we're all one fandom.

The reason I think NH fans often seem more bias and ignorant is because NH it's a much more simple and plain, and a more straight-forward pairing than NS, it's easy to deal with it. For instance, Hinata said flat out that she loved Naruto, but to see that Sakura loves Naruto too, you have to read between the lines, look at the gaze in her eyes and such.

Ugh, that was so hard to explain. XD

Edited by sushi., 28 January 2013 - 03:10 PM.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 03:47 PM

I guess I just don't find the appeal in Hinata, but I know exactly why certain people (mainly guys) do... Trust me, I don't exactly understand the fascination with large breast. I care far more about personality then looks, guess that's why I like Sakura so much happy.gif

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 03:54 PM

QUOTE (MangaReader @ Jan 28 2013, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I guess I just don't find the appeal in Hinata, but I know exactly why certain people (mainly guys) do... Trust me, I don't exactly understand the fascination with large breast. I care far more about personality then looks, guess that's why I like Sakura so much happy.gif

That argument doesn't work for me either, because I am a girl myself. laugh.gif Why should I care about Sakura's size anyways? Her chest look like nothing out of the ordinary, it's just that they're crushed by Hinata's mountains.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 03:57 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 28 2013, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That argument doesn't work for me either, because I am a girl myself. laugh.gif Why should I care about Sakura's size anyways? Her chest look like nothing out of the ordinary, it's just that they're crushed by Hinata's mountains.

Exactly laugh.gif


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Posted 28 January 2013 - 04:00 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 28 2013, 06:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Guess you're right. But really, I'm stuffed that us, NS fans, always have to be the good guys who say that yes, SS and NH is a possibility but others brush NS like it's nothing. Really, now!

agree but as a hardcore i really cant say that. and @manga reader-- that makes no sense for me too. its all about charcter and manners. she has a good number of good quallities.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 04:00 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 28 2013, 10:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That argument doesn't work for me either, because I am a girl myself. laugh.gif Why should I care about Sakura's size anyways? Her chest look like nothing out of the ordinary, it's just that they're crushed by Hinata's mountains.

That's another thing that bothers me: People saying that she's flat chested. Personally, I could care less about breast size, but I'd like to point out that if that's flat chested...then flat chested girls must be FLAT TO THE CHESTED. Her boobs are more like....C cup perhaps? I'm not completely sure tbh, but to say she's flat chested is so...wrong. Not because there's anything wrong with being flat chested, but because she simply isn't xD.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 04:07 PM

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That's another thing that bothers me: People saying that she's flat chested. Personally, I could care less about breast size, but I'd like to point out that if that's flat chested...then flat chested girls must be FLAT TO THE CHESTED. Her boobs are more like....C cup perhaps? I'm not completely sure tbh, but to say she's flat chested is so...wrong. Not because there's anything wrong with being flat chested, but because she simply isn't xD.

All I see on certain things involving Sakura (like the DLC for Naruto Shippuden UNS3) is that she's looks like a guy... I don't exactly gets what the big deal is honestly

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 04:20 PM

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That's another thing that bothers me: People saying that she's flat chested. Personally, I could care less about breast size, but I'd like to point out that if that's flat chested...then flat chested girls must be FLAT TO THE CHESTED. Her boobs are more like....C cup perhaps? I'm not completely sure tbh, but to say she's flat chested is so...wrong. Not because there's anything wrong with being flat chested, but because she simply isn't xD.


I actually prefer characters whose size are a little around Ino's. Sakura is probably a B at most. Ino, on the other hand is probably a D, if you compare hers with Hinata's in that color page with the K-11 taking a bath at the springs. Hinata is an E, I suppose. My threshold limit is D. Also, I really prefer that their bodies are actually proportional not ridiculously busty. Bustyness is fine, but if it's unproportional with the rest of the body, then I'm outta here.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 04:22 PM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Jan 28 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I actually prefer characters whose size are a little around Ino's. Sakura is probably a B at most. Ino, on the other hand is probably a D, if you compare hers with Hinata's in that color page with the K-11 taking a bath at the springs. Hinata is an E, I suppose. My threshold limit is D. Also, I really prefer that their bodies are actually proportional not ridiculously busty. Bustyness is fine, but if it's unproportional with the rest of the body, then I'm outta here.


I agree with you there, I really don't like it when they are as you said "rediculously busty" sakura and ino have perfect size if you ask me

btw why are we talking about boob sizes LOL, not that I mind happy.gif

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 04:24 PM

whats with all this talk guys. does the looks matter that much? i dont really care about that seriously guys is something interesting ? otherwise i am gonna sleep.and whats with B,D,E. HUN?

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 04:38 PM

QUOTE (narulsaku @ Jan 28 2013, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
whats with all this talk guys. does the looks matter that much? i dont really care about that seriously guys is something interesting ? otherwise i am gonna sleep.and whats with B,D,E. HUN?

B, D, E are bra cup sizes. I don't mind people who are interested, as long the chest doesn't hide the personality and traits.

Edited by sushi., 28 January 2013 - 04:45 PM.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 05:12 PM

LMAO. You guys talk about just about everything here when it comes to Sakura. biggrin.gif

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 05:19 PM

That's a surprising topic going on now XD Everything is possible here.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 05:22 PM

well naru|saku did ask a question 121721.gif

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 05:44 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jan 27 2013, 08:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Poison in your coffee@

I don't remember Sakura telling Naruto she loves Sasuke and she will never love him back. Naruto assumed she loves Sasuke when he made her the promise and he even asked her about it but she never replied to him. Also why NH fans keep ignoring Sakura's subconscious feelings for Naruto during part 1??? If she never had a silly crush on Sasuke she would've fallen for Naruto way sooner than expected since some of the times her feelings about him were reflected through inner Sakura. Obviously Kishi wasn't going to do that because he wants to create drama and tension throughout the story as he develops NS. Let's face it if Naruto and Sakura got together in part 1 the story would have gotten boring and lame but Kishi knew he needed to make a slow and steady development while creating obstacles for them to overcome. Sakura has to overcome her remaining feelings for Sasuke (540 has reflected this that she has probably finally moved on from him knowing very well he's not a great guy). Naruto has to make Sakura happy no matter (aside from the many obstacles he has to overcome, like saving the world and bring peace, saving Sasuke etc).

I find the whole" Hinata is available" argument very biased. Because the same can be said about Naruto, Sakura and Sasuke. You claimed the NS moments don't have no meaning and Kishi alwyas leave them "incomplete" but why he would do that? Easy if he made Yamato finished his sentence then Sakura would have noticed way sooner she loves Naruto romantically (for real, not a silly crush like the one she had for Sasuke). If Sai finished his speech to Sakura about" her feelings for Naruto" according to the book he read then the same thing first mentioned would have happened. Kishi needs to have those moments incomplete because if he did choose to complete them, then NS would have been canon since part 1. Like I said Kishi needs to create tension with the pairing he's been developing to create drama as well as giving the hero and the heroine obstacles to overcome. Giving fan service from opposite fandom is only to please those fans when in the end he's going to troll them (examples are chapter 437, 482 and 616). Naruto will never give up in loving Sakura because what he has for her is true love" the one who is undying and selfless" the same with Obito and Jiraiya. Obito never force himself on Rin and till this day I know he must still love her, the same was said with Jiraiya. Even when Tsunade got together with Dan he never stop loving her.

This post is pure gold, i dunno why some people are making things complicated, and no im not gonna point fingers, but seriously this pairing is so obvious and well built, it goes with the flow of the story, hinata has NOTHING to do with the main plot, that alone speaks volume, hinata was just never meant to be, just face it, this pairing was planned from the beginning, believe it or not, it has so many twists and turns, thats when you know it actually has significance to the story, i might sound biased but its true, all these implications towards this pairing, the romantic hugs, the feeding, sakura being narutos girlfriend, these are all romantic, hugs are considered romantic in japan, girls in japan feed their boyfriends, and kushina told naruto to find a girlfriend like her and he did.Kishi saying that sakura loved sasuke, and that narutos close, him also saying the name of narutos son, and him saying that sakura is the only one that can control naruto (or something along those lines) him saying that the INNER sakura is close to naruto (or something like that) thr databooks, EVERYTHING, why do we continue to argue with others when everythings stacked in OUR favour? just throw in your logic, they can take it or toss it.

This post is awsome, good job graven, oh and btw ciardha got sick of the doubts and worries, she said that she needs a break, i read this on deviantart, and i dont blame her laugh.gif we just seriously need to calm down, this story of naruto is simple, dont look too deep into things, just enjoy and think logic!

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 05:53 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Jan 28 2013, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's a surprising topic going on now XD Everything is possible here.

Well it was likely gonna be brought up again sooner or later ^^;

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 06:38 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 28 2013, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
well naru|saku did ask a question 121721.gif

I wasn't referring at your answer to narulsaku. I was talking in general of the topic that was brought up biggrin.gif

QUOTE (MangaReader @ Jan 28 2013, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well it was likely gonna be brought up again sooner or later ^^;

It's brought sooner in that case XD

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