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[sushi.]

I think, before the start of Kage Summit, it was much more likely for Sakura to like Naruto back as well. There was potential for it, since the start of Shippuden really, but Kishi sort of ruined that with Sakura's devlopment since then. He's put in several "Sakura love Sasuke's" since 2009, and from my perespective, she can only really be in love with one character. I do not think she is split between her feelings or confuesed about them. Sakura herself has even confirmed where her heart lies during 540, and its not something to take lightly. She has definite possibility to change, and I think the main reason is because she won't be able to take much more of Sasuke's behavior. Its not that she is lacking in romantic feelings for him, but she is getting fed up with his actions. Sasuke will likely ruin it all by himself.

Sakura really cares for Naruto, and loves him as well. She'll continue to show concern for his well being whether she ends up with him or not. This doesn't have to mean she wants to be his lover.

I know you're not lashing out at me. xD I respect your thoughts, and the several who think like you. I just have a different perspective on things. The only thing that really matters is that we all adore NaruSaku. ^^

Shortly, Sakura hates her feelings for Sasuke. She has to get over him, he's not a good guy and was never good to her. Check her databook too, and the moral of the story would be sh*tty if she doesn't get over him.

[Kageteiou]

I think that if I had to describe Sakura's feelings for Naruto and Sasuke, I would say that her feelings for Sasuke are still center stage with her loving Naruto to a lesser extent. To Clarify, I believe that as of the moment she at least thinks she is in love with Sasuke while she loves but is not in love with Naruto. She seems to have taken huge backsteps in her character development when her thoughts were drawn to Sasuke in chapter 540, especially considering the development that had been put into Naruto and Sakura's relationship at the beggining of Shippuden. However one could argue that while she still has romantic feelings for Sasuke, they have become a source of pain. While there hasn't been any recent development in her and Naruto's relationship that is not to say there couldn't be in the future.

[AzureWaters]

Shortly, Sakura hates her feelings for Sasuke. She has to get over him, he's not a good guy and was never good to her. Check her databook too, and the moral of the story would be sh*tty if she doesn't get over him.

I don't think she hates being in love with Sasuke. A big part of her would probably like to be with him if he weren't so messed up. Its more that she's been disappointed too much.

Edited by AzureWaters, 28 March 2012 - 08:15 PM.

[FoolishYoungling]

I don't think she hates being in love with Sasuke. A big part of her would probably like to be with him if he weren't so messed up. Its more that she's been disappointed too much.

your kidding right?

[Fyuria'sLeo]

your kidding right?

Its actually a good look at this, that may be just how it is.

[FoolishYoungling]

Its actually a good look at this, that may be just how it is.

http://www.mangahere...aruto/v57/c540/ She sure look happy to love him.

[Fyuria'sLeo]

http://www.mangahere...aruto/v57/c540/ She sure look happy to love him.

Again she thought about how bad a guy he became. Set yourself up for my win thank you. Checkmate.

Edited by Fyuria'sLeo, 28 March 2012 - 09:27 PM.

[FoolishYoungling]

Again she thought about how bad a guy he became. Set yourself up for my win thank you. Checkmate.

And that's why she felt bad about liking him. She knows Naruto has done everything for her, and all Sasuke has done is said she was worthless and annoying. She sees Sasuke, and is ashamed of herself. She wants to mature, and it has shown her doing that more than once. Sakura mature= Sakura getting rid of her fangirl love for Sasuke, and getting physical with Naruto's body

[Dragunov]

If for any reason Naruto's feelings are one sided, then we've been chasing fairies for the last decade or so. If anything, Sakura has a deep trust of Naruto.................thats the bare minimum. However, i'd be damned if she was still in love with Sasuke. That would be just plain stupid in all logic and reason.

[Phantom_999]

I, personally, do not think Sakura is in love with Naruto right now. I am not convinced in the least that she was telling the truth during her confession. It seemed fake and forced, and the characters behaved like it was such. I do believe she will come to love him, but at the moment Sasuke looks to have a bigger place in her heart when it comes to romantic affection.

I also do not think NaruSaku is the only possible route for pairing resolution. Despite supporting NaruSaku, I still recognize that SasuSaku or NaruHina is possible. Whether its bad writing or not, Kishi has given attention to those two as well (especially recently) and its not impossible for him to make one or the other canon.

I guess the problem is that I still see NaruSaku as one-sided romantically. For me, its practically on the same boat as the others when it comes to one-sided affection. Sakura has developed more with Naruto than the others have done with their love-interest, but imo its been mostly friendship and genuine care on her part. She doesn't give off the feeling of being in love with him.

"Hinata being Hinata" is not good for us, btw. She's not going to sit back and stutter and blush at Naruto. Her determination to get what she wants is not something we've seen before. Prior to 573, she's still been relatively shy and looked to be alright with just loving him from a distance. Not anymore.

But SasuSaku and NaruHina are also one sided. All the development you stated right now for SS and NH are just as one sided if not even more. Has Sasuke shown interest in Sakura, or Naruto in Hinata? Any SOLID evidence either of them see those girls romantically? Naruto was only encouraging Hinata to be more confident in her self because he knows self doubting won't get you anywhere, he experienced that first-hand. That's not romantic. And don't go saying Kishimoto can do what he wants again cause you're going by the story and scenes being shown in the manga by stating He's been giving SS and NH ATTENTION. And as for that they're just friends bit, friends can be in love too, or do you think otherwise? Now That may work in Hinata's favor but until shes been shown actually talking to Naruto and using her own mouth to engage him in conversation, that argument for her is nil. Sasuke doesn't seem interested in love and even if he did I doubt it's with Sakura because She's been shown to have never been that important to him. He did not consider her feelings enough stay in the village first of all, and it DEFINITELY did not check his hand from killing her. TWICE. Naruto is the only friend he thinks about even ow during his cold blooded rampage.

Edited by Phantom_999, 29 March 2012 - 12:06 AM.

[Turson]

However, i'd be damned if she was still in love with Sasuke. That would be just plain stupid in all logic and reason.

Dont know if she will be in future, but currently she loves him, even though it hurts her, there is no doubt about that.

[AzureWaters]

But SasuSaku and NaruHina are also one sided. All the development you stated right now for SS and NH are just as one sided if not even more. Has Sasuke shown interest in Sakura, or Naruto in Hinata? Any SOLID evidence either of them see those girls romantically? Naruto was only encouraging Hinata to be more confident in her self because he knows self doubting won't get you anywhere, he experienced that first-hand. That's not romantic. And don't go saying Kishimoto can do what he wants again cause you're going by the story and scenes being shown in the manga by stating He's been giving SS and NH ATTENTION. And as for that they're just friends bit, friends can be in love too, or do you think otherwise? Now That may work in Hinata's favor but until shes been shown actually talking to Naruto and using her own to engage him in conversation, that argument for her is nil. Sasuke doesn't seem interested in love and even if he did I doubt it's with Sakura because She's been shown to have never been that important to him. He did not consider her feelings enough stay in the village first of all, and it DEFINITELY did not check his hand from killing her. TWICE.

I agreed that SasuSaku and NaruHina were one-sided. I just think NS is also one-sided--romantically. Naruto and Sakura are pretty good friends after all, and as so, are not lacking in development. They've both had time to grow on one another, and Sakura's attitude towards Naruto has changed signifcantly since part 1. She respects him more, and cares for him a great deal. Still, romantically speaking, Sakura does not reciprocate just yet.

Hinata has interacted with Naruto, and from what I see, their conversations go nicely enough. Naruto doesn't crush on her of course, but he is uplifting and supportive when he talks to her, as he was after he saved her from those confused shinobi in 559.

Anyway, I don't think you get what I'm arguing. I wasn't saying or even implying that Sasuke and Naruto liked Sakura and Hinata. My point was that NaruSaku is not romantically mutual atm, and I do still think Kishi could go with NH and/or SS--which I know are one-sided, btw.

[Phantom_999]

That SS and NH have chance to happen despite being onesided but NaruSaku doesn't? Mind explaining that? And Sakura HAS show romantic interest in Naruto. You may not see it that way because you don't like the tsundere personality, and that's fine because she DOES shows her feelings in a more tsundere like fashion for Naruto, where as with Sasuke it was simple fangirling and she doesn't seem too proud to have liked him at all, with recent evidence. OH!! On that note I have a new argument for chapter 540 my dear fellow NS fans. Here it is. Would you HONESTLY get together with someone if you are ashamed of liking them and what they are doing? food for thought to the SS fans thinking that Sakura's still gonna run back to Sasuke. And you say Naruto's conversations with Hinata are pleasant? Well that could be true. If there was any real conversations besides the one before his fight with Neji. As I recall it's usually him doing the talking and Hinata keeps silent 98% of the time, plus the fact that He hardly talked to her at all for most of the series, barely even being on the same page if not the same panel. Anyway I may not understand what you're arguing, that's true, but NS is a solid couple with neutral romantic development, and so should be the guaranteed couple. If you don't see it that way , that's fine. Your reasons are your own but most of us see it that way and no it's not overconfidence it's because it's apparent to our point of view.

He never said that. NS is still way less one-sided than NH, not to mention SS.

Fair enough, but he's kinda like saying like this: Sasuke and Naruto don't need development to return Sakura and Hinata's feelings but Sakura does for Naruto and it has to SHOW. That doesn't make sense to me.

Edited by Phantom_999, 29 March 2012 - 01:39 AM.

[Turson]

That SS and NH have chance to happen despite being onesided but NaruSaku doesn't?

He never said that. NS is still way less one-sided than NH, not to mention SS.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

I agreed that SasuSaku and NaruHina were one-sided. I just think NS is also one-sided--romantically. Naruto and Sakura are pretty good friends after all, and as so, are not lacking in development. They've both had time to grow on one another, and Sakura's attitude towards Naruto has changed signifcantly since part 1. She respects him more, and cares for him a great deal. Still, romantically speaking, Sakura does not reciprocate just yet.

Hinata has interacted with Naruto, and from what I see, their conversations go nicely enough. Naruto doesn't crush on her of course, but he is uplifting and supportive when he talks to her, as he was after he saved her from those confused shinobi in 559.

Anyway, I don't think you get what I'm arguing. I wasn't saying or even implying that Sasuke and Naruto liked Sakura and Hinata. My point was that NaruSaku is not romantically mutual atm, and I do still think Kishi could go with NH and/or SS--which I know are one-sided, btw.

I respect your opinion AzureWaters and my bias aside, it is possible that Sakura's feelings aren't as deep as Naruto's yet. Though she has an attraction to him at the very most. That we are sure of.
But my opinion is that Sakura thinks she loves Sasuke because that's all she's ever known for him. I never believed Sakura was truly in love with Sasuke. She cares for him immensely and always did,
but most of the time, Sakura had a perfect image of Sasuke and never really acknowledged his faults. She knew Sasuke but never really understood the real Sasuke. The way Kishimoto portrayed
Sakura's love for Sasuke was poor at best. She claimed she loved him yet it always seemed like an infatuation almost everytime we saw it. Which is why I believe Sakura mistook her feelings for Sasuke as love, when it never really seemed that way. I disagree though. I'm pretty sure Sakura mostly gave up on romantically being with Sasuke after he left. Of course she still carried feelings for him,
but mostly focused on just bringing him back. Sakura's feelings for Naruto aren't exactly 100% clear without being debatable, but it was confirmed at one point that she didn't know her feelings for him, and that still seems to stand if you look at the confession and 540. Anything involving being with someone, she thinks of Sasuke first because she is actually aware that still has feelings for him. Naruto on the one the other hand is this " " to her. I believe Sakura has unconsious romantic feelings for Naruto and if that's the case, basically explains everything in Part 2. Sakura will realize her feelings probably soon, most likely in a life-or-death situation, which she realizes her love for Naruto, her reaction probably being this "

If my theory is true, I really won't be surpised. It is common for Tsundere characters to go through this stage at one point, the most notable examples I can think of right now being Kagome
from InuYasha and Akane from Ranma 1/2. I'm sure there are others who follow this stage in the romance department.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 29 March 2012 - 01:42 AM.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Whoa stop being paranoid. I was not attacking you. This is the debate thread. And no, I do not see you bashing any characters. As far as I read your previous posts probably I bash Sakura much more than you do.

I was not being critical about your statement of how you want a guy to be with two girls. I was pointing out your double standard that you are insisting a three way relationship will happen with one boys and two girls, and yet you are denying when I use the same logic as you to show that one girl and two boys can happen just as much. How is this not a double standard?

I will use the same logic as you to show how it can be going both ways.
-If Sakura and Hinata have to resolve the issue that atleast one of them will have Naruto in the end, then Naruto and Lee will have to resolve the issue that atleast one of them are going to have Sakura in the end. Sakura and Hinata can share Naruto just like Naruto and Lee can share Sakura, or Naruto and Sasuke can share Sakura. Same logic.

-There were noble ninjas in the Edo era as well. And the real nobles were still the daimyos that exist in Naruto as well.
Your logic of applying the rules of the daimyo and ignoring the rules of the noble shinobis of the Edo era seems like a convenient twist of logic on your side to make one boy and two girls plausible. If you are going to use the Edo era argument because the ninjas are from the Edo era, then make it consistent and use the rules that apply to the ninjas than forcefully applying rules of the nobles to fit your idea.

Also, if you are going to apply the "because it happened in the Edo era" argument let me apply the same as well.
-Kunoichis when they become adult were mainly used as seductresses to sleep with the target and gain information. I can use this "because it happened in the Edo era" argument YOU used yourself to show that it's plausible that Sakura and Hinata will sleep with many other guys for the sake of the mission.

-If Hinata is a selfless person that will do whatever to keep Naruto, then she is a selfless people that can sleep with other people for the sake of the mission and for the Fire Country.

Did you see what I did there? We can play around with words forever to show anything sound plausible.

Bottom line: I don't care if you want one boy and two girl relationship to happen. Just don't deny me when I apply the same logic you use to show that one girl and two boy relationship is just as likely. I hope we can agree to this.
I'll say it again, the threesome itself is not silly. It's the double standard you apply that one boy can date with two girls, but one girl can't date with two boys is what I find silly. Do not twist my words to make me sound like I am attacking you. Thank you very much.

Note: I was not twisting your own words. Just felt a bit deja-vu

Lol, I actually forgotten about Lee/Saku. It does make things problematic. But a threesome is more than just the first person having two mates. Those two other mates must also become intimate with each other: for instance SakuX Hina and NaruXSasu. You have two options, both Hinata and Sakura must also date, or with the Naru/Saku/Sasu threesome. Naruto becomes Naruko (fem Naru), or Sasuko (fem Sasuke) because i know the canon version of their character would never be gay. Though with Izunagi, Sasuke can temporarily change his gender so he or she can mate Naruto, and back into a male for Sakura--very lame if you must ask.

However, a three way relationship does't have to be a threesome pairing. Sakura and Hinata doesn't have to date each other to share Naruto as long as they don't declare each other a second mate. They can have one more guy. Rather they the same gender or not, it makes no difference if Saku and Hina are lovers, and they will lose the extra guy privilege, and will result in cheating.

[narulsaku]

Dont know if she will be in future, but currently she loves him, even though it hurts her, there is no doubt about that.

How can you tell that she loves him. And she won't in future. I am sorry if i am verry rude. But that realy hurts

[narulsaku]

Note: I was not twisting your own words. Just felt a bit deja-vu

Lol, I actually forgotten about Lee/Saku. It does make things problematic. But a threesome is more than just the first person having two mates. Those two other mates must also become intimate with each other: for instance SakuX Hina and NaruXSasu. You have two options, both Hinata and Sakura must also date, or with the Naru/Saku/Sasu threesome. Naruto becomes Naruko (fem Naru), or Sasuko (fem Sasuke) because i know the canon version of their character would never be gay. Though with Izunagi, Sasuke can temporarily change his gender so he or she can mate Naruto, and back into a male for Sakura--very lame if you must ask.

However, a three way relationship does't have to be a threesome pairing. Sakura and Hinata doesn't have to date each other to share Naruto as long as they don't declare each other a second mate. They can have one more guy. Rather they the same gender or not, it makes no difference if Saku and Hina are lovers, and they will lose the extra guy privilege, and will result in cheating.

Hey don't you have anything more to say than it.

[Darth Krypt]

Why are we even discussing the possibility of a character having more than one partner??

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Hey don't you have anything more to say than it.

I'm just about out of ideas. But there are only a handful of people in the world combing both sides (NS and NH) want a Naru/Saku/Hina threesome.

Why are we even discussing the possibility of a character having more than one partner??

It's just base on a far fetched theory of what if Sakura and Hinata come to an agreement to share Naruto. And how Sasuke will restore his clan.

Edited by Konoha'sCrimsonFox, 29 March 2012 - 06:22 AM.