
The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread
#9221
Posted 02 October 2013 - 07:59 AM
#9222
Posted 02 October 2013 - 08:07 AM
Sakura is the symbol of kishi failure, I think that's what naruto fandom think.
A lot of people adore Sakura, SS fandom for example, we count too ..
#9223
Posted 02 October 2013 - 08:09 AM
#9224
Posted 02 October 2013 - 01:20 PM
The "haters" of something always seem bigger than they really are. Usually because they're particularly loud and have a need to make their presence known and their opinion heard.
Sakura does have a lot of haters, but perhaps we focus on them a little too much, thus making this group that hates her seem a bit bigger than what it really is. Like Psychox said, SS loves Sakura as well! The ones that really hate Sakura are usually (I don't mean to generalize, but it's what I've observed) NH shippers as well as certain NH shippers who want Sakura to end up alone or permanently dead in the manga. Unfortunately for them, those two so desperately wanted desires won't be happening anytime soon.
"Suck it and see."
#9225
Posted 02 October 2013 - 02:05 PM
Heh, that's not too surprising, Naruto's target audience is pretty young.
I see what you're saying, I'm just wondering if Naruto should be compared to anything other than itself? I don't have the knowledge to compare it to other manga, but I think that the way this manga is set-up and the way the Team 7 tension and romantic tension are set-up, the romantic tension can't be resolved till close to the end.
While I do wish there was a greater exploration of her relationships, I don't think it's entirely accurate that Sakura is a flat character at all and I especially don't subscribe to the notion that she's as flat as Tenten. We did have an arc that focused on her, on her relationship with Chiyo, on the fact that Sakura actually is the other person who has a bit of Naruto's special "conversion" gift. I really think it depends on one's taste, and on how one reads the manga etc etc. I adore Sakura as she is, I'd like to see more of her, I'd have liked for the character to be given more, but I think she's a wonderful character, the most dynamic character, the most interesting character --but all of that is subjective. I find her interesting because of how slowly she changes, of how realistically her changes come about, that she's not on some easy path to "getting it," but that she often fails, takes multiple steps backwards...but even still she realizes her mistakes, is capable of self-analysis, and moves on. I think Sakura's awesomeness is often overlooked because of how slow-paced her "growth" has been, and that's fine, but I love that about her.
Well, when I say she competes with Tenten, doesn't mean she's as flat as Tenten...... but it's definitely close enough with the way Kishi's been writing her as of lately. Her interaction with Chiyo was definitely a high point for her character. But after that, there's none to be seen for her like the one with Chiyo. I would think this is a matter of consistency, though.
I don't really blame you for not having read enough mangas to be able to compare Naruto. Naruto must be your first series, am I right? well, then I suggest that you read both FMA and Fairy Tail. The former's been completed already, the latter is still on-going. If fanservice and ecchiness is not your cup of tea, then you might want to avoid the latter, (even though you're going to end up missing out on a great manga!) both mangas are in my top list of favorites.
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#9226
Posted 02 October 2013 - 05:30 PM
But the hater is the loudest one.
Haters can't make any sound if you don't listen to them.
What makes them exist is the credit they are given. Simply stop letting anyone screw your own experience while following the story you like and you will notice how they make little to no difference.
#9227
Posted 02 October 2013 - 06:03 PM
now that sasuke is within sakura's sight. i can really say this. sakura cares / thinks / talks more about naruto in shippuden.
I can't even say good bye to you for the last time
I'm sorry
#9228
Posted 02 October 2013 - 06:10 PM
anybody saw the recent chapter? saku>naru moment?
Edited by Question22, 02 October 2013 - 06:11 PM.
Our ship has maybe sank but our memories of debate , struggling , defending ... will stay in our hearths
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#9229
Posted 02 October 2013 - 06:13 PM
Why of course.anybody saw the recent chapter? saku>naru moment?
#9230
Posted 02 October 2013 - 06:15 PM
Pretty much. Sakura only started to care for Sasuke back in part 1 was the fact he was in line of going to dark side and it made it worse that she can't share with anyone. When she did with Naruto, guess what, happy Sakura. It goes to show you that Naruto can really make her smile.now that sasuke is within sakura's sight. i can really say this. sakura cares / thinks / talks more about naruto in shippuden.
#9231
Posted 02 October 2013 - 06:27 PM
They say when sasuke comes back, sakura will be a fangirl again but when he came back she isnt a fangirl and NH and SS fans strongly disagree with this.
Then how come she worries about naruto in the war?
Our ship has maybe sank but our memories of debate , struggling , defending ... will stay in our hearths
-Question22
#9232
Posted 02 October 2013 - 06:46 PM
We all thought that at some point after 627, but the damage has been done. At this point, she was happy that Team 7 was back, but she can't trust Sasuke as a person anymore. He really went too far to the point she don't know what to feel anymore. To be fair, she cared for both in part 1, but now, this one is much more on Naruto. Sure, she want(ed) to get Sasuke, but a lot of that are due to Naruto's bond and Team 7.They say when sasuke comes back, sakura will be a fangirl again but when he came back she isnt a fangirl and NH and SS fans strongly disagree with this.
Then how come she worries about naruto in the war?
Time has changed and Naruto needed to know that. She worries about Naruto in many occasions, rather than just one which is just life and death. The reason why we saw Sakura caring for Sasuke was because of his path to darkness, but that's really it. Plus it was made to show that she was afraid yet Naruto was the one to help her smile once again. Not even Kakashi helped when he told her that he don't know if curse seal will be part of him because it's up to Sasuke. Overall, Sakura cares too much of Naruto. Suffering to loneliness, using Kyuubi back when it was life threatening, feeling hurt of not reaching to Sasuke, feeling sad and anger for losing Jiraiya, pushing himself to lose an arm back when rasenshuriken was fatal, and so much more. She worries about him as a guy, not because of one problem, but because of him.
Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 02 October 2013 - 06:47 PM.
#9233
Posted 02 October 2013 - 06:54 PM
it seems like there will be a next NS moment guys i belive it will happen 2-3 chapters later
Edited by Question22, 02 October 2013 - 06:55 PM.
Our ship has maybe sank but our memories of debate , struggling , defending ... will stay in our hearths
-Question22
#9234
Posted 02 October 2013 - 07:43 PM
The "haters" of something always seem bigger than they really are. Usually because they're particularly loud and have a need to make their presence known and their opinion heard.
Sakura does have a lot of haters, but perhaps we focus on them a little too much, thus making this group that hates her seem a bit bigger than what it really is. Like Psychox said, SS loves Sakura as well! The ones that really hate Sakura are usually (I don't mean to generalize, but it's what I've observed) NH shippers as well as certain NH shippers who want Sakura to end up alone or permanently dead in the manga. Unfortunately for them, those two so desperately wanted desires won't be happening anytime soon.
Yup, took the words out of my mouth.
They say when sasuke comes back, sakura will be a fangirl again but when he came back she isnt a fangirl and NH and SS fans strongly disagree with this.
Then how come she worries about naruto in the war?
Huh, some say that, do you believe it? Many people here have given solid opinions that they want SS and NH to happen so those sub sections of the fandom believe that Sakura hasn't progress from her chapter 3 counter part at all.I've been hearing a lot how she will just jump on Sasuke's neck and everything will be fine and dandy, how is that gonna happen? Or after Naruto confesses Sakura will reject him and Hinata will play the role of a '''nice guy''..
Sakura has grown up ,matured , gotten wiser ,stronger and is pretty capable to understand right from wrong. People mislead themsevles with chapters like 540 and single throw away sentences from Sai ''She went to kill him to save him from darkness..'' that that left them in the dark in believing that she doesn't care for Naruto at all.
Humph, there is also 632 she ''fangirled'' but that makes little sense , since chapters later she is shown not to trust Sasuke..
Anyways, Sakura had a lot of check ups on how great prince Sasuke really is and really , she wanted acknowledgment more than his love,but that makes me biased so yeah...
Her dream was team 7 to be happy again, do you think that that is possible?
Her character is mainly finding true love , what is left there is her immature feelings for Sasuke to be resovled.
Edited by Psychox, 02 October 2013 - 07:49 PM.
#9235
Posted 02 October 2013 - 08:32 PM
Thank you for saying this. I'm someone who believes translators should translate Japanese as accurately as possible, but some people can be way too nitpicky when translating a line from the manga, and they twist the words around until they fit their interpretation of the line(s). It's ridiculous........................
「まあ、そんな感じだって」- "Well, something like that..."
This is all that it says. Nothing more. I do not want people to read into this more than it should be. You do not have to hack at the Japanese language every single time to get a meaning out of it ^^. It is really colloquial to say it this way. Yes, the "って" is for casual quoting. I fail to see any of this as reasons why Naruto is joking, I never understood this argument.
no, it does not a shortened dattebayo.
#9236
Posted 02 October 2013 - 08:46 PM
So I was in youtube seeing a Naruto review (I bet you know where this is going) and one of the comments goes like this:
In the Japanese raw Naruto said "Yes, I suppose you could say that ... at least was what she said (hence to her fake confession)" since Naruto knew very well back then that Sakura was lying, he was obviously joking.
Opinions?
Edited by redragon88, 02 October 2013 - 08:46 PM.
#9237
Posted 02 October 2013 - 08:49 PM
So I was in youtube seeing a Naruto review (I bet you know where this is going) and one of the comments goes like this:
Opinions?
Who ever posted that is desperate and in denial.
#9238
Posted 02 October 2013 - 08:49 PM
Are we getting close to NS being confirmed? I think it's going to happen in the very near future.
#9239
Posted 02 October 2013 - 08:49 PM
So I was in youtube seeing a Naruto review (I bet you know where this is going) and one of the comments goes like this:
Opinions?
Why would Naruto joke about the confession when he said (during the confession) "This joke's not funny." He sure didn't seem to think such a thing should be joked about, so why would he turn around and do just that?
Edited by BakeNeko-Chan, 02 October 2013 - 08:51 PM.
#9240
Posted 02 October 2013 - 08:50 PM
So I was in youtube seeing a Naruto review (I bet you know where this is going) and one of the comments goes like this:
Opinions?
*Facepalm* Eesh. Some of these fans I tell ya...
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