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[morgaine4]

 

Very good points.

 

You seem to have good knowledge of biology and animals. Do I smell veterinarian aspirant? But maybe that's just me jumping to conclusions.

 

Haha, actually much of my family thought I'd go into vetrinary medicine, but I chose Public Health/Environmental Health instead.  I love reading, watching, and learning about wild animal behavior (particularly social mammalian behavior), but I don't think I'm smart enough, or competitive enough for vet-school (more competitive than (human) medicine).

[redragon88]

 

Haha, actually much of my family thought I'd go into vetrinary medicine, but I chose Public Health/Environmental Health instead.  I love reading, watching, and learning about wild animal behavior (particularly social mammalian behavior), but I don't think I'm smart enough, or competitive enough for vet-school (more competitive than (human) medicine).

 

[六道仙人]

This is another argument from a NH fan.

 

Yes, joking. Take your time to read the raw Japanese translation, my dear. And as far as his facial expression goes, where you ask how he was joking; explain: where was the seriousness? He looked confused, hesitated, didn't blush or react bash fully like before: 

1. In the first panel on the right, starting from the second speech bubble, Minato says:

"Thanks for recovering Naruto [from illness]...I wonder if that could be Naruto's girlfriend?"

2. Now on to the second panel on the left.

Naruto says in the first (triple) speech bubble on the right:

"Um~"
"Huh?/Yeah?"
"Yeah!"

Important things to note here:•In the first bubble, "U~n" (translated as "Um~") indicates that Naruto is thinking about it.

3. In his second speech bubble, Naruto says:

"Well, something like that.../Well, something along the lines of that..."

Important things to note here:•"Maa sonna kanji datte..." is the romanization.


• The "datte" could refer to "dattebayo", as in Naruto's catchphrase. However, this could also have a different meaning. When "datte" comes at the end of a sentence, it usually means that someone is being quoted, as in "s/he said something like that". If looking at it this way, you get the following:

"Well, she said something like that.../Well, she said something along the lines of that..."

This a viable possibility due to the fact that Naruto could be paraphrasing Sakura's fake confession.

 

[Codus N]

 

Biologically speaking, in most mammal species males are built for quick bursts of brute strength, while females are built for endurance.  Hyenas are an exception though, the females are built for brute strength and endurance, while the males are just super-submissive.  It's why when working out, in general men tend to gain bulky muscle, while women tend to gain long/lean muscles.

 

 

 

Yeah, I think it's this tendency that often leads to "token" characters --be it token female, token racial/sexual orientaiton minority-- etc etc.  I'm not one to demand that all fiction has a representative balance of genders, orientations (the whole scale of genders and orientations), racial makeup etc etc, but I think it's important that regardless of these details, characters are written as whole human beings.
 

 

 

Well, I agree, though like you I might be biased (but like I said, I like to think that I don't see things regarding Sakura because I want to see them, but rather because I see these things --and because as the story progresses and I've re-read and re-analyzed the story-- these aspects are the reason I like  her).

 

Bolded: Interestingly, there is one female manga character I know that follows your example to a T (although I'm sure there are others).

 

Erza Scarlet.  Her basic strategy revolves around herself tanking hits from her opponent until she figures out their abilities and pulls out the perfect weapon to counter them. And her physical strength is definitely very, very high (not to the point of super-strength, though). She can almost rival Gajeel in terms of tanking hits, and the latter is literally made of iron, to boot.

 

As for your second point, at this point, the way I see it, Sakura is nothing but a token character. Hell, even the hero himself is starting to be reduced into one. The manga should literally be renamed Sasuke at this point. Unless Kishi does something about this, my opinion's not gonna change. And I'm not talking about fights, either. I'm talking about how each character should be contributing to the plot in their own ways. Hell, even Ino is moving and contributing more to the plot than Sakura.

 

Don't get me wrong. I do like how Sakura's humanity is shown, but Kishi forgets that the story is set in a fantasical setting, In fact, I think Kishi has a serious misconception about her character. Kishi is too enamored with the beauty of humans' shortcomings. It's not wrong to use that as an aspect of a character, but it's getting to the point that it is stalling her development. Y'know how some people get stuck in the same job/position at a company for years?? some of the reasons include them being too comfortable in their position, simply because they don't want the responsibility, when they actually can do more.

 

The reasoning for Sakura to me, is similar. She's too comfortable being a medic-nin and staying at the back, when in fact she could do more. Not saying this makes her lazy, of course. Just.... why hasn't she thought of trying something else aside from the medical ninjutsu taught her? Please tell me she knows Katsuyu came from a place where you could learn Senjutsu (maybe). Because if she did, I just have to facepalm and resist the urge to call her a dumb broad. If not that, I would also question Tsunade herself. She could have at least mentioned SM in passing to her student. Knowing Sakura, she would naturally be curious. Even if Tsunade told her it would be impossible, wouldn't this have pushed her to try prove her master wrong??

 

If she did know, well congrats Kishi, you not only dumbed down your hero, but you also dumbed down your heroine. We all know Sakura can do more, it's just that Kishi is lazy to do something about it, which in turn, makes her look lazy.

 

Also, regarding the stalled development I was talking about, my point about her being too comfortable with her current self still stands. She's too comfortable with herself right now that she hasn't gotten up the gumption to talk about herself to people she cares about (her team, Tsunade, Shizune, etc.) Hell, I would dare to call her an emotionally reclusive person. Remember Yamato's advice? I get the feeling she hasn't even realized it in full. And all this because either she refuses to talk about it or something else. That's a big question mark for her character but Kishi hasn't even bothered to bring it up at all. And it feels too late in the game too, if it's brought up. Kishi had many opportunities to do it, but he didn't.    

 

If he brings it up, I feel like it's going to end up looking more like an afterthought of her character that Kishi brought up for the sake of tying loose ends instead of actually developing her character. 

[Psychox]

I mean is reading really that hard for some fans or is it really just blind fanism at this time? I mean I stumbed across some guy called Commander Kurama on tumblr, and okay yes he is putting down NS and saying stuff like NH has already done 3 laps around it, but seriously. I'm getting tired of the numerous anti-ns arguments that either rely on just downgrading or twisting stuff with Naruto and Sakura and somehow trying to insert SS into the mix or just using NH fillers saying this matters but none of the NS manga stuff does or that 469 is still "the end" of NS despite we got a good clear answer that Sakura has been the only girl in anyway shape or form so far canonically compared to Kushina and that Naruto still has feelings for her.

 

Oh,I thought i was the only one to have the pleasure to cross paths and get a lot  of his ''arguments'' being stuffed down my throat. Not only he downplays NS , but last time i had a chat with him he was talking with anyone but me on tumblr ....... He said something of the lines ''No mental gymnastic of parallels will fix NaruSaku after 469'' ??? I mean what the..

I heavily disappointed of people who think that NS is build upon Sasuke's shoulders , or they don't have moments without him there or saying his name ...Ufff..
 

 

Commander Kurama is the leader of the anti NS fanclub on NF, so don't be surprised. XD ^

Really? O_O You met him too? Ugh...  I always got that vibe that he abhors  Sakura's guts ... Though he supports her and respects her if she is with her Sasuke XDDDD!
 

 I fail to see any of this as reasons why Naruto is joking, I never understood this argument.

Easy.Because he didn't return hinata's feelings....Its difficult for many people to swallow that fact , because after 615/616 people thought that Naruto was falling for her or he loves both girls, so concentrated they were on that hand holding ,they ignored the entire idea of Neji's sacrifice and the point of the chapter. I always thought that it wasn't directed to the plot more than to the readers specifically .

So deeply they believed that 469 ,470 and 540 (NS heart attack) were what made NS DEAD, that they forgot to check the narrative/context of those moments to see what actually was going on . So they thought Naruto mislead Hinata while actually they mislead themselves . He never moved on nor showed a mental image of Sasuke ''in flames'' judging how much of a ''great guy'' he is . Not a single though , so what made them to put their hopes so high?
 

Edited by Psychox, 01 October 2013 - 11:51 AM.

[morgaine4]

As for your second point, at this point, the way I see it, Sakura is nothing but a token character. Hell, even the hero himself is starting to be reduced into one. The manga should literally be renamed Sasuke at this point. Unless Kishi does something about this, my opinion's not gonna change. And I'm not talking about fights, either. I'm talking about how each character should be contributing to the plot in their own ways. Hell, even Ino is moving and contributing more to the plot than Sakura.

 

Don't get me wrong. I do like how Sakura's humanity is shown, but Kishi forgets that the story is set in a fantasical setting, In fact, I think Kishi has a serious misconception about her character. Kishi is too enamored with the beauty of humans' shortcomings. It's not wrong to use that as an aspect of a character, but it's getting to the point that it is stalling her development. Y'know how some people get stuck in the same job/position at a company for years?? some of the reasons include them being too comfortable in their position, simply because they don't want the responsibility, when they actually can do more.

 

The reasoning for Sakura to me, is similar. She's too comfortable being a medic-nin and staying at the back, when in fact she could do more. Not saying this makes her lazy, of course. Just.... why hasn't she thought of trying something else aside from the medical ninjutsu taught her? Please tell me she knows Katsuyu came from a place where you could learn Senjutsu (maybe). Because if she did, I just have to facepalm and resist the urge to call her a dumb broad. If not that, I would also question Tsunade herself. She could have at least mentioned SM in passing to her student. Knowing Sakura, she would naturally be curious. Even if Tsunade told her it would be impossible, wouldn't this have pushed her to try prove her master wrong??

 

If she did know, well congrats Kishi, you not only dumbed down your hero, but you also dumbed down your heroine. We all know Sakura can do more, it's just that Kishi is lazy to do something about it, which in turn, makes her look lazy.

 

Also, regarding the stalled development I was talking about, my point about her being too comfortable with her current self still stands. She's too comfortable with herself right now that she hasn't gotten up the gumption to talk about herself to people she cares about (her team, Tsunade, Shizune, etc.) Hell, I would dare to call her an emotionally reclusive person. Remember Yamato's advice? I get the feeling she hasn't even realized it in full. And all this because either she refuses to talk about it or something else. That's a big question mark for her character but Kishi hasn't even bothered to bring it up at all. And it feels too late in the game too, if it's brought up. Kishi had many opportunities to do it, but he didn't.    

 

If he brings it up, I feel like it's going to end up looking more like an afterthought of her character that Kishi brought up for the sake of tying loose ends instead of actually developing her character. 

 

That's an interesting perspective, but I can't say that I agree that the problem is that Sakura is too willing to settle as a medic-nin, rather I think the problem is in the notion that focusing as a medic-nin (and being on the path to become the best medic-nin until someone better comes along in the future) is a type of settling.  Medicine is important, medicine in battles is important, I'd argue the problem is that Kishi hasn't given medic-nins, or at least given Sakura's advancements as a medic-nin, a greater focus (though, this is probably a problem with the genre rather than with Kishi).
 

Sakura and the role of being a medic-nin could have been given a greater focus.  For instance, there easily could have been an exploration of the two jobs of a combat medic, on the one hand a combat medic's role is to survive and save the lives of comrades, on the other a combat medic (in this world) needs to be able to take the offensive and kill the enemy --that's an interesting/intricate/difficult position to be in, and given Sakura's personality (her level of emotional-ness, her empathy) this exploration would have been fitting for her character and it could have brought in another exploration of the short-comings of the Shinobi world as it currently is.

Kishi could have focused a bit more on what it is that medics do, the type of special training they have to go through, who they save, what the cost to themselves is or could be, how they research to come up with new techniques, what sort of ethics they have so that they don't turn into researchers like Orochimaru and Kabuto, what the rules/guidelines are for medics when they come across injured enemy combatants (who aren't highly ranked and who'd be unable to provide much information), what the guidelines are when medics come across injured civilians while in the middle of battle (do they move on without healing the civilian, do they heal the civilian?), what the guidelines in terms of reserving chakra vs healing an injured comrade is (what injuries should be healed?  how great a risk should a combat medic take when healing an injured comrade?) etc etc.
 

For me the problem isn't that Sakura has focused on her role as a medic, that she has focused on advancing her abilities as a medic (after all, she doesn't have secret clan techniques like Ino, a Kekke Genkai like Neji or Sasuke, extreme amounts of chakra reserves like Naruto), but that for whatever reason her role as a medic is for whatever reason (Kishi's writing style, the genre style, the fans' under-appreciation of medicine) over-looked/underestimated.  Medicine is important, just to use real life examples, imagine how different our world would be without the small pox vaccine, without anti-biotics, without the discovery of germs and the importance of hygiene, without blood-typing (for blood transfusions), without the discovery of Vitamin C's role in preventing scurvy, without the discovery of the role of Iodine in preventing goiters, without the ability to provide prosthetic limbs.  The problem isn't that Sakura's focused on her medical career/role as a medic, but with the notion that a medic-nin is in the background, and with the notion that lifesaving/defensive aspects of her role aren't as important as the offensive aspects of the role of others.  Think about it, at 17 Sakura is one of the top two medics in their entire world --that's not settling, that's awesome, that's badass.

As to your point about her not talking about herself, are you talking about the romance aspect?  Because obviously she can't clarify her feelings (to herself, to others, to the audience) until later in the series.  If she figures that out, than the greatest romantic tension of the story will be done with.  And I don't understand why she needs to talk about her feelings, or herself, why is there such a burden on her?  She's been busy preparing for a war, participating in a war, healing an entire army so her self reflection, her romantic focus should take a back seat (a major gripe I have with Hinata is that just a few moments after her cousin's death she was once again focused on her crush/romance).

[sushi.]

Codus, I don't think the problem is that Sakura is too comfortable, I think Kishi is. Kishi is too comfortable with settling her as a medic nin in the back, and I think that is a problem because it's like he only moves one character at a time. He already did it with Kakashi and Sasuke.

 

But if you compare medics to the real world, saving an entire army is very very important and she would be a hero for decades. So I wouldn't blame it on Sakura or what she is thinking.

 

The problem is that she is currently plot irrelevant. I was happy in 632, but that happiness died after she got sidelined again. I think Reddragon brought up a good point about that; It is cool seeing Sakura healing practically everybody, but it would be much better if it was a hindrance for the villains and their plan. (Because...the alliance is after all useless. ) Or now that Sakura is healing someone (somewhat) relevant, she has potential(which she always had and a lot was wasted, I'm not sure how much I should hope).

 

I really want her to make a change in this war. It can be a small thing, like punching Zetsu made them discover his abilities and led Naruto to the battlefield.

Edited by sushi., 01 October 2013 - 01:17 PM.

[Codus N]

 

That's an interesting perspective, but I can't say that I agree that the problem is that Sakura is too willing to settle as a medic-nin, rather I think the problem is in the notion that focusing as a medic-nin (and being on the path to become the best medic-nin until someone better comes along in the future) is a type of settling.  Medicine is important, medicine in battles is important, I'd argue the problem is that Kishi hasn't given medic-nins, or at least given Sakura's advancements as a medic-nin, a greater focus (though, this is probably a problem with the genre rather than with Kishi).
 

Sakura and the role of being a medic-nin could have been given a greater focus.  For instance, there easily could have been an exploration of the two jobs of a combat medic, on the one hand a combat medic's role is to survive and save the lives of comrades, on the other a combat medic (in this world) needs to be able to take the offensive and kill the enemy --that's an interesting/intricate/difficult position to be in, and given Sakura's personality (her level of emotional-ness, her empathy) this exploration would have been fitting for her character and it could have brought in another exploration of the short-comings of the Shinobi world as it currently is.

Kishi could have focused a bit more on what it is that medics do, the type of special training they have to go through, who they save, what the cost to themselves is or could be, how they research to come up with new techniques, what sort of ethics they have so that they don't turn into researchers like Orochimaru and Kabuto, what the rules/guidelines are for medics when they come across injured enemy combatants (who aren't highly ranked and who'd be unable to provide much information), what the guidelines are when medics come across injured civilians while in the middle of battle (do they move on without healing the civilian, do they heal the civilian?), what the guidelines in terms of reserving chakra vs healing an injured comrade is (what injuries should be healed?  how great a risk should a combat medic take when healing an injured comrade?) etc etc.
 

For me the problem isn't that Sakura has focused on her role as a medic, that she has focused on advancing her abilities as a medic (after all, she doesn't have secret clan techniques like Ino, a Kekke Genkai like Neji or Sasuke, extreme amounts of chakra reserves like Naruto), but that for whatever reason her role as a medic is for whatever reason (Kishi's writing style, the genre style, the fans' under-appreciation of medicine) over-looked/underestimated.  Medicine is important, just to use real life examples, imagine how different our world would be without the small pox vaccine, without anti-biotics, without the discovery of germs and the importance of hygiene, without blood-typing (for blood transfusions), without the discovery of Vitamin C's role in preventing scurvy, without the discovery of the role of Iodine in preventing goiters, without the ability to provide prosthetic limbs.  The problem isn't that Sakura's focused on her medical career/role as a medic, but with the notion that a medic-nin is in the background, and with the notion that lifesaving/defensive aspects of her role aren't as important as the offensive aspects of the role of others.  Think about it, at 17 Sakura is one of the top two medics in their entire world --that's not settling, that's awesome, that's badass.

As to your point about her not talking about herself, are you talking about the romance aspect?  Because obviously she can't clarify her feelings (to herself, to others, to the audience) until later in the series.  If she figures that out, than the greatest romantic tension of the story will be done with.  And I don't understand why she needs to talk about her feelings, or herself, why is there such a burden on her?  She's been busy preparing for a war, participating in a war, healing an entire army so her self reflection, her romantic focus should take a back seat (a major gripe I have with Hinata is that just a few moments after her cousin's death she was once again focused on her crush/romance).

 

This post is why you're starting to climb the ladder in my list of people's posts I adore and love. I was honestly (almost) expecting some of the people here (the "immature" ones) to start bashing me. But I'm glad a sensible person like you is still around to see my post for what it is.

 

That, and you have a sort of (?) medical background helps to see my post in the same perspective as I do (and even better at that). I applaud you. 

 

Yes, the whole post above I agree entirely with. Kishi has been overlooking the medics' role in battle ever since Part II (post-Gaara arc). He set up the whole concept well back in part I, so I don't understand how he could not bother to expand it more. Any good author can do something like this if he's wiling to. The only mangaka I see using the role of a medic effectively is Mashima.

 

As for the last part about Sakura's feelings, sorry about that. I sort of went off a tangent there. But my basic point is, if she's confused or doesn't understand her feelings, then why not talk to somebody about it? I understand the whole romantic tension thing, but lots of other mangas like Naruto has resolved that kind of issue far earlier (FMA, anyone?).  I think Kishi severely underestimated its' impact on the fandom. (And I'd bet you my ass Mashima saw this whole phenomenon with Naruto and is the very reason why he's setting up the pairings clearly, like I said in one of my previous posts.)

 

I really wanna know now whether Kishi gave Mashima advice on the shippings, or if Kishi read FT, and kicked himself in the ass over and over for his apparent Junior's genius.......

 

@Sushi: that's kind of the whole point of my post, actually. She's not contributing to the plot anymore. Ino herself is moving the plot more than she is.

[sushi.]

^I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough..I know I do agree with you for the most part, but I wanted to add my own input, and there is one thing I disagree with that I mentioned. That is that I don't think we should take this out on Sakura. She can not decide how plot relevant she'll be. :v

[Codus N]

Yeah, I'll agree with you on that. But then again, blaming her can also be taken as/or the same as blaming Kishi (which I do blame the man for).

[Hanabi]

have anybody seen this before?

[TouKen4Life3g]

have anybody seen this before?

No, but good timing. Halloween time is near.

Off-topic: For anyone in here has tumblr account,please pm me for I have questions to ask. Don't want here to be a chat room on off-topic material.

[BlueStarSaber]

Say I found this post on tumblr's Kataang page that had anti NaruSaku and I was wondering if anyone can help me with some counter aguments to it.

AVATAR CONFESSION
When I first considered Katara and Aang as a couple, I immediately thought of NaruSaku. I had been reading Naruto for 7.5 years and shipping Naruhina for 7, and Kataang seemed too much like the boyish crush that Naruto has had on Sakura.
Like they’re so similar, but for all the insignificant reasons: Main Boy+ Main Girl, girl’s a badass healer, protagonist is idealistic, but Kataang has some things that NaruSaku can’t dream of having…
There are several examples, but my favorite three can be drawn out of the moment that convinced me I should Kataang: This moment.

 

 

 

At first, I thought this kiss came out of nowhere. Like 15 minutes ago Katara was hugging Zuko, and 100 minutes ago, Katara said she was confused. Then I realized that this kiss didn’t come out of nowhere…

EXAMPLE #1- there are clear Kataang moments (not Katara and Aang being friends, but suggesting more than that. Several or important moments are in bold) in 101, 102, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 201, 202, 212, 218, 219, 220, 301, 302, 303, 306, 309, 310, 317, and of course 321. That’s sooo much leadup, it’s crazy. Narusaku has just as many moments (if not less) in 646 chapters of their friendship, as 61 episodes of Kataang’s (648 subtracted by 2 chapters before Sakura is introduced). It’s almost like the relationship is a main part of the series… (queue example 2)

EXAMPLE #2- I also realize that Kataang ended the series because the show is not about the fire nation, or the 100-year war, or Zuko or the Avatar Cycle or any of that. It’s about Aang, friendship, and love. What better way to end a series about Aang, love, and friendship than with Aang falling in love with his best friend? Meanwhile, love is a side note in Naruto, and therefore Naruto’s GF should be a more minor character, so as not to interfere with the main themes of the series: camaraderie, the philosophy of Illusion and Pain, NaruSasu (friendship), and longing for acceptance. There are few points in which romance drives the plot of the series (the NH confession being one of them), but in Avatar, the first season finale consists of Sokka’s ex becoming the moon in a mirror of the story of zhong-qiu-jie (google it, it was a couple weeks ago), Aang refuses to unlock his 7th chakra due to the love of his life-Katara, and Zuko’s entire family strife derives from the fact that his mother didn’t love his ‘father’ (for explanation of the ”’s, read The Search). Romance & Kataang are central to the show, whereas romance is peripheral in Naruto.

EXAMPLE #3- But my favorite thing that NaruSaku will never have, is an entire music track written by the original makers of it’s series built to accompany a moving dramatic finale-kiss scene. This theme is one of my favorite-if not my favorite-pieces of wordless music ever.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=t49awwcktN0
I don’t care how Anti-Kataang you are, this music is beautiful, even if you associate it with a ship you don’t like.
Shivers go down my spine every time I hear that kiss chord, and the 66-second music clip ends with Avatar’s signature: G#, C#-B-G#. BOOM
(I have more examples, but that would take too long).
Eventually, I realized the important things in Kataang are things that NaruSaku will never have, and I grew to really like the ship.

 

 

 

Fin

[BakeNeko-Chan]

Say I found this post on tumblr's Kataang page that had anti NaruSaku and I was wondering if anyone can help me with some counter aguments to it.

 

Uh, geez. I really don't understand what 'argument' they're trying to make, how on earth does the soundtrack in Avatar have anything to do with Kataang being a better pairing than NaruSaku? What does liking Kataang and not liking NaruSaku have to do with ANYTHING? I Have a love for both pairings, they each have different things about them that appeal to me. Naruto and Avatar are two very different stories, so I don't really understand what sparked this comparison.

 

I find that Aang/Katara and Naruto/Sakura have more similarities than they do differences.

Edited by BakeNeko-Chan, 01 October 2013 - 08:59 PM.

[sushi.]

About the second example..I disagree that love is a minor theme. All types of love are important in Naruto and even created most of the villains. Obito turned evil because he lost the girl he was in love with, Nagato did the same when he lost his companion Yahiko, Orochimaru when he lost his parents etc. Love is used as a plot device and is a very big element in the story. (I think even Nagato said something like "Love creates hate")

 

Anyhow; Naruto should get with a minor character because love is a minor element in the story?

Or just not write anything romantic everytime Naruto and Sakura see eachother. Not more difficult than that, It's actually that simple.. They are friends and teammates too after all, they're a lot to eachother. The romance is still minor even with all the fluffy NS moments we had, I think? Romance not in the way.

 

And so the music part..that is as relevant as fillers, but don't you remember the romantic music and flowing leaves Pierrot put up when Sakura hugged Naruto? 

Edited by sushi., 01 October 2013 - 09:05 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Ok, the post lost me in example 2. First of all, the main theme of Naruto is in one simple word: bonds. This is the driving force of the series and really, the focus needs to be spread to tell each of the stories. It makes no sense that the love aspect must go to side characters. The best chapter that completely tells you the theme and focus of Naruto is in the part where he flashback during Gaara's fight. In that flashback, he split his friends into different meanings.

Iruka: first to acknowledge, father-like figure, always there to help
Kakashi: a teacher to aid him, advice him, always there to tutor
Sasuke: a rival guy, someone he wants to best, always a motivation to grow stronger
Sakura: a love interest, someone he wants to date, someone who he wants to get close, a lover of his life

Why you think I grew huge heart for Naruto? Because he too has a huge heart for his friends. That said why Aang is exclusive to this and Naruto has to go to lower level. Heck, it was season 2 that I grew to like Kaatang. I wish I can go more, but this was a poor excuse for Hinata to come in.

[BlueStarSaber]

Ok those are good

[sushi.]

Can you give the link? I wanna observe this..

[BlueStarSaber]

Can you give the link? I wanna observe this..

 

You mean to the post were I found it?

[sushi.]

 

You mean to the post were I found it?

Your response, when you're done posting ofc