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[luffyq1]

This is the most fun I've had watching a thread in a while.

Nothing will ever top 615, which spanned to 171 pages.

[FreakySandra1995]

Not yet.

This is really the most anticipated raw yet, is it?

Tell me about ot I don't think I have ever pressed F5 on a raw site like these days

[Nostradamus]

Tell me about ot I don't think I have ever pressed F5 on a raw site like these days

Why aren't you using a plugin to refresh the page automatically?

[FreakySandra1995]

Why aren't you using a plugin to refresh the page automatically?

Something like this exist? D: What have I been doing with my life? x)

[TouKen4Life3g]

Something like this exist? D: What have I been doing with my life? x)

Lol they have plugin for anything nowadays. The wonder of Internet.

[Nostradamus]

Something like this exist? D: What have I been doing with my life? x)

Well if you have Firefox the plugin is called ReloadEvery, you can set a time like 5 seconds, 30 seconds, a minute etc and it will refresh that page to that timer. For Chrome I don't really know, you could search for the same thing or try searching for similar thing like "automatically refresh" and I'm sure you'll find something.

[FreakySandra1995]

Lol they have plugin for anything nowadays. The wonder of Internet.

 

 

Well if you have Firefox the plugin is called ReloadEvery, you can set a time like 5 seconds, 30 seconds, a minute etc and it will refresh that page to that timer. For Chrome I don't really know, you could search for the same thing or try searching for similar thing like "automatically refresh" and I'm sure you'll find something.

Haha. never realised that until now Why didn't I think about searching something like that before xD

[Gojira]

Not yet.

This is really the most anticipated raw yet, is it?

When does it come out nowadays?

[Hiraishin]

It's much less weird compared to an adolescent brother trying to peek his adolescent sister in the hot springs, introducing his sister as a girlfriend to his own father and trying to ask his sister on a date every chance he's got, and the sister confessing her love to her brother in the crowd.

Pfft, a 13 year old young girl's fangirling to her cool brother is much more acceptable.






Sorry I just kittening HATED the NS are siblings argument! *runs out of breath*

I'm gonna drink some water and calm down.

Same. There's literally NOTHING in the manga to back this up, only evidence against it. I mean who would ask their brother if they look more womanly, especially while blushing and in that pose?

Curious, have Japanese fans said this as well? About them being siblings?

[Inferno180]

Nothing will ever top 615, which spanned to 171 pages.

 

I bet it will be topped should a high NS moment come after the battle or around the end of the series.

 

Otherwise, its really not dependent on the raw, just a matter of how the story actually played out and well, what still exists for NS still exists and for SS its just, well theres still a big gaping hole for everything else even if this was actually one event for the SS crowd, otherwise theres just plain logic saying that its more reasonable for Sakura to no longer love him than to somehow have increased it.

 

Some stuff would be obvious but other fandoms just try to make a huge deal out of it (631 as we all know) but other stuff like 615 didnt give all the answers when the same fandom (NH in this case) assumed it was game set match, dont ask anymore questions and well, we know the result only 16 chapters later..

 

in this case some take it as ambiguous, I say just keep in mind how the story went and progessed so far and how the characters progressed, I mean theres no debating the fact that so many events for SS were just negative in part 2, theres no justifying it as positive. Otherwise this whole mess could be extended by considering opinions from Sai and Kakashi as different and fans could still make a case out of it, but its pretty dam obvious that from sais view and in the same chapter that both kakashi and sakura asked sasuke his view, its a no-nonsense deal that theres a motive and notion of distrust. So it just even no matter how this stuff is argued, a notion of mistrust still objectifies that theres a mess of negativity still present in SS even if it was somehow increased as SS fans want it to be. But its still most likely decreased.

 

I know some people are surprised at this, but believe me, the old stuff I've read on the Avatar and Harry Potter pairing wars still far exceeds what we experience here. Some of the oldest Zutara stuff would make all the ramble between narutos pairing fanbases, different and same, would make any heated debate of ours look more like a fancy debate of gentlemen and high class people trading words of sophisitication as insults while eating snacks, coffee, and tea.

[arian_rad]

Am I the only one thinking that the raws really won't make any differance. I mean if the entire translation was supposed to be about the fact that Sakura's love for Sasuke is now greater than ever.. The overall message of what kakashi was saying would make no sense? He was picturing a girl who dreamed of becoming Sasuke's girlfriend and saying that the way she feels is different now meaning she now wants to be his girlfriend even more?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I bet it will be topped should a high NS moment come after the battle or around the end of the series.
 
Otherwise, its really not dependent on the raw, just a matter of how the story actually played out and well, what still exists for NS still exists and for SS its just, well theres still a big gaping hole for everything else even if this was actually one event for the SS crowd, otherwise theres just plain logic saying that its more reasonable for Sakura to no longer love him than to somehow have increased it.
 
Some stuff would be obvious but other fandoms just try to make a huge deal out of it (631 as we all know) but other stuff like 615 didnt give all the answers when the same fandom (NH in this case) assumed it was game set match, dont ask anymore questions and well, we know the result only 16 chapters later..
 
in this case some take it as ambiguous, I say just keep in mind how the story went and progessed so far and how the characters progressed, I mean theres no debating the fact that so many events for SS were just negative in part 2, theres no justifying it as positive. Otherwise this whole mess could be extended by considering opinions from Sai and Kakashi as different and fans could still make a case out of it, but its pretty dam obvious that from sais view and in the same chapter that both kakashi and sakura asked sasuke his view, its a no-nonsense deal that theres a motive and notion of distrust. So it just even no matter how this stuff is argued, a notion of mistrust still objectifies that theres a mess of negativity still present in SS even if it was somehow increased as SS fans want it to be. But its still most likely decreased.
 
I know some people are surprised at this, but believe me, the old stuff I've read on the Avatar and Harry Potter pairing wars still far exceeds what we experience here. Some of the oldest Zutara stuff would make all the ramble between narutos pairing fanbases, different and same, would make any heated debate of ours look more like a fancy debate of gentlemen and high class people trading words of sophisitication as insults while eating snacks, coffee, and tea.

Only the end of the series, it had nothing to do with 615 having a big moment but rather the 3 week hiatus we got right after that and trolls.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 10 May 2014 - 07:25 PM.

[Inferno180]

Only the end of the series, it had nothing to do with 615 having a big moment but rather the 3 week hiatus we got right after that.

 

And 615 was just overblown by both bases, made more about nejis death than anything considering the events based on 615 afterwards, anytime it came up again it was neji's death to this point, not naruto thinking about hinata so the feeling I get from that event is that it was about neji, not Hinata as many thought at first.

 

But otherwise NS still has a lot going for it and nothing really has changed for us on our end. I mean things are still going good for NS despite anything else and theres still a lot of development serving as its reason and merit to go canon, not to mention what still has to come for it.

[Kster95]

So are the raws out yet? 

[FireFox]

Am I the only one thinking that the raws really won't make any differance. I mean if the entire translation was supposed to be about the fact that Sakura's love for Sasuke is now greater than ever.. The overall message of what kakashi was saying would make no sense? He was picturing a girl who dreamed of becoming Sasuke's girlfriend and saying that the way she feels is different now meaning she now wants to be his girlfriend even more?

I agree its like her crush has gotten  stronger  while at same time saying she wants to save him out of duty (not out of love ) and that she's a kind girl because of that (why would that be kind of her if she loved him ?) and Kakashi is admiring that fact doesn't make any sense non of it does actually . But when you have a fandom that is so delulu like SS well i think you get the point :) .

[TouKen4Life3g]

When does it come out nowadays?

Used to be Friday. Now I don't know.

[Awes9]

I don't think the raw will change anything MS and MP who are the only one who have access to the real japanese raw until now translated it the same way and there was no ambiguity in Kakashi's statement.

[arian_rad]

I agree its like her crush has gotten  stronger  while at same time saying she wants to save him out of duty (not out of love ) and that she's a kind girl because of that (why would that be kind of her if she loved him ?) and Kakashi is admiring that fact doesn't make any sense non of it does actually . But when you have a fandom that is so delulu like SS well i think you get the point :) .

Kakashi was saying how Sakura was so kind because even after Sasuke tried to kill her she hasn't given up on him. She can't throw her emotions to the side and forget about him which is understandable. If he was referring to how pure Sakura's love for Sasuke was wouldn't he have used any word other than "kind" to describe her? Maybe "loving" or something else?

[FireFox]

Kakashi was saying how Sakura was so kind because even after Sasuke tried to kill her she hasn't given up on him. She can't throw her emotions to the side and forget about him which is understandable. If he was referring to how pure Sakura's love for Sasuke was wouldn't he have used any word other than "kind" to describe her? Maybe "loving" or something else?

Exactly and this is why SS  script doesn't make any sense he wouldn't have labeled her as "kind" because when you are in love with someone you do that without thinking not because you are "kind" Sakura being called kind girl means that she didn't have to save Sasuke but she wants to as a comrade and as a friend , and yes he would have used different word if she was in love with  something like "your devotion for him is great" or "your love for him is unwavering"  something like that .  

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 10 May 2014 - 07:54 PM.

[Gojira]

I have given my entire view of this damn chapter on 5 different occasions in the past 2 weeks alone in the debate thread alone. I am not giving it again and I am tired of people not listening to me when I do give my opinion because they want to be stubborn. Because they believe that Sakura merely just having a thought about Sasuke means "tur lurve." (True Love.) Yeup. Logic detects to ignore the fact that the thought was negative or she has this feeling of regret on her face. Yes, let's just ignore that in favor of "She thought of Sasuke, so it must be canon."

Once again, we continue to prove that to fans when it comes to Pro-NS, or Anti-SS or Anti-NH, it is all a matter of "interpretation" and is "too ambiguous to figure out," but when it comes to anti-NS scenes or Pro-SS/Pro-NH scenes....they are apparently straight up and are not ambiguous in any way. Are we sure this is a NS fan club? Because about half the fandom seems almost anti-NS with the way people talk.

Context context context context context.

The logic of this forum is all NS scenes are ambiguous and pure interpretation, but all SS and NH scenes are straight and absolutely mean canon.

....anyway speaking of chapter 540

I think it could be interpreted differently it wouldn't make sense for Sasuke to be the other one she was referring to, because that would imply that she felt confident enough that they could be in a relationship despite....literally everything that happened the day before.

I just hope Kishi follows that chapter up and we get possible clarification. who knows maybe love fodder is still alive.....and why is the raw so late?