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[T XD]

I got NO idea other than Lee being in shock. Not sure why Tenzo would be like that, given he's the one who seems to see Sakura has feelings for Naruto, even if he doesn't realize how it is and all.

Tenzo seems that he didn't expect her to say something.

[sushi.]

Yamatao had no idea about plan either, Kiba was like "aah, so this is her plan. I see"

Edited by sushi., 26 January 2013 - 07:55 PM.

[Lady_duckish]

I got NO idea other than Lee being in shock. Not sure why Tenzo would be like that, given he's the one who seems to see Sakura has feelings for Naruto, even if he doesn't realize how it is and all.

Lee looks shocked, Kiba looks slightly miffed and /or confused, Yamato looks kind of angry and Kakashi looks no more amused or angry then he does on a regular basis.

Yeah you can make the argument that Yamato's face might negate what most of us thought about the aftermath of the four tails scene , but you could also argue he just knows Sakura isn't being 100% genuine. He remembers what it looked like when Sakura is being open and vulnerable with about how she feels ( the four tails scene), so maybe he can tell that something is up :shrugs:

[Dalton.T.R]

I find it funny how Kakashi is the only character that actually looks like a ninja, haha

[TouKen4Life3g]

hmm. you have a point there. i want to know your opinion about these matter:

do you think the anime team know the ending of the manga? because i think we can't tell about the overall story before the ending. or atleast, do you think that kishimoto involved in the creation on the anime? besides the RtN of course

some debate thread use only the manga as valid evidence, the other allowed the databook and kishi's interview, but none of them allowing the anime and the movies, do you know the exact reason? (nah, im hoping any admin to answer this)

about the RtN. i havent watch the movie yet. but from the way you guys talking about it, its really good for NS. my question is, why do you think kishimoto exposed a lot of sakura's life on the movie but never do that in the manga? because i cant help but thinking the movie is a real fanservice. thats just my feeling, im not going to debate about it

edit: i just want to know your opinion. theres no other purpose

I don't think anime knows the ending but I do think they can sense the obvious, whether they're canon or not, and not as I mean nothing (no NH/SS/NS). So if there's one that really makes the most sense, whether they will be together or open ending, then anime will push it hard and make many bonding moments. For example, Fairy Tail, as obvious it is, has tons of additional scenes for one couple, even if it's not canon. In this case, NS is the best case to it. If it's open ending in the manga, it's not like they screwed up. If NH/SS is canon, then they screwed up because we have a decisive winner(s).

The reason why people don't use them as evidence is because well, it's not written by the original creator. Even though you may heard of the opposite when fillers are in their side, it's neutral to be contradicting. I don't use it as evidence, but I will bring up that anime must know something that we don't, and at times, maybe we may overthinking on stuff. Interviews are more like guess for yourself, because Kishi intends to drift you in or out. He basically dodges the question that asks for what's next or why this event happen.

Lastly, RtN is not really about Sakura's life, it's about Naruto and Sakura switching places and learn from their shoes. Sakura didn't want to live with parents as Naruto wanted to. Their life has switched places. Literally. To the point Sakura acts like Naruto at home (ex: being messy, lazy, eating a lot). It's a life lesson for both of them. The movie is not that "Sakura's year" that Kishi left behind. But it is a story that Kishi wanted to tell but have no place in the manga. The movie is fan service when it comes to K9 because they're alternated. It only last for a very short time and then everything else is what Kishi wanted to tell: parental love. The reason why this movie has plenty of NS is because Naruto and Sakura are always together figuring out what happened and Sakura is always there to witness Naruto's growth.

We only got 2 people that saw the movie in here, but there are also evidences that proved that there were plenty of NS and they can tell that Kishi is serious on NS. You can always check the movie thread to see more. One scene is my sig right now. This movie is in pending to me because while we don't bring into debate, it does have some importance for argument because this is from Kishi and continued to make Naruto loves Sakura and Sakura's potential love for Naruto.

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

I will personally want to see the film before making any further comments about it. It sounds like it is a film where Kishi played with elements he knows he won't be using/won't be able to use in his manga series. In the manga Naruto can never be with his parents again so in the film they sort of show up and they have moments together. In the film Kishi was also able to play with his established characters and have them behave in ways they will never behave in the manga. I suppose that must have been fun. Who knows what the extent and meaning of NS in that film is. Maybe it is meant to foreshadow canon NS or it is one of those elements Kishi put in the film because he knows that he won't be putting NS to the manga. Who even knows how much NS there is in the first place, as not many of us have seen the film after all and know everything about it from other sources.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I will personally want to see the film before making any further comments about it. It sounds like it is a film where Kishi played with elements he knows he won't be using/won't be able to use in his manga series. In the manga Naruto can never be with his parents again so in the film they sort of show up and they have moments together. In the film Kishi was also able to play with his established characters and have them behave in ways they will never behave in the manga. I suppose that must have been fun. Who knows what the extent and meaning of NS in that film is. Maybe it is meant to foreshadow canon NS or it is one of those elements Kishi put in the film because he knows that he won't be putting NS to the manga. Who even knows how much NS there is in the first place, as not many of us have seen the film after all and know everything about it from other sources.

True. But we do have people in here that saw it and they did explain in many details. Of course, I still want to watch it.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I will personally want to see the film before making any further comments about it. It sounds like it is a film where Kishi played with elements he knows he won't be using/won't be able to use in his manga series. In the manga Naruto can never be with his parents again so in the film they sort of show up and they have moments together. In the film Kishi was also able to play with his established characters and have them behave in ways they will never behave in the manga. I suppose that must have been fun. Who knows what the extent and meaning of NS in that film is. Maybe it is meant to foreshadow canon NS or it is one of those elements Kishi put in the film because he knows that he won't be putting NS to the manga. Who even knows how much NS there is in the first place, as not many of us have seen the film after all and know everything about it from other sources.

IF you watch the movie expecting to show NS canon or the contrary you will be disappointed because the movie is not about it there's no foreshadowing there are parallels and and extreme abuse of parallels but it does not foreshadow anything.
The movie is not about how certain characters would behave, he had to make a set-up where Naruto could interact with his parents with a reasonable reason.
So he created a world were everyone was different or just the opposite but still the main theme was unnaffected, even on the AU!'s world the love triangle was the same and this is no mention that Sakura loved Naruto and even on the ending she didnt showed that she fall in love with Naruto.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 26 January 2013 - 10:24 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

IF you watch the movie expecting to show NS canon or the contrary you will be disappointed because the movie is not about it there's no foreshadowing there are parallels and and extreme abuse of parallels but it does not foreshadow anything.

Not supposed to foreshadow. It's there to let us know what we already know. It's the idea that made NS legit, rather than a crack pairing or not as serious.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Not supposed to foreshadow. It's there to let us know what we already know. It's the idea that made NS legit, rather than a crack pairing or not as serious.

If it was to show that Minato and Kushina was Naruto and Sakura we already knew that way before and who deny it is just on a extreme denial i'm saying is that the movie did not write "NS is Canon!".

But the fact that the role model family resembles Minato/Kushina and even her parents resembles them in a certain point of view gives a strong argument that NS is the best pairing, because on the movie she wasnt "Naruto-kun(x666)" even Hinata's AU had the same obssession with Naruto.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 26 January 2013 - 10:28 PM.

[Chatte]

Is it me or actually Road to Ninja is a satire up to a certain point? From what I've seen, heard, etc, this Road to Ninja is something like Kishi putting in there what the fans want, mixed with satire and his true intentions.
After I'm going to see it, I'll really make a big post about it.

Edited by Chatte, 26 January 2013 - 10:32 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

If it was to show that Minato and Kushina was Naruto and Sakura we already knew that way before and who deny it is just on a extreme denial i'm saying is that the movie did not write "NS is Canon!".

But the fact that the role model family resembles Minato/Kushina and even her parents resembles them in a certain point of view gives a strong argument that NS is the best pairing, because on the movie she wasnt "Naruto-kun(x666)" even Hinata's AU had the same obssession with Naruto.

Of course not. It's just that there are people that thinks NS as a bond is not as serious or strong. The movie proves it. You're right that it does make it the best pairing out of all. It doesn't scream NS is canon but it sure had people thinking new that NS is the most likely pairing in the end. We have seen a lot of posts from Japan talking about this. Anyway, I still can't wait for the movie.

[That Uchiha]

I will personally want to see the film before making any further comments about it. It sounds like it is a film where Kishi played with elements he knows he won't be using/won't be able to use in his manga series. In the manga Naruto can never be with his parents again so in the film they sort of show up and they have moments together. In the film Kishi was also able to play with his established characters and have them behave in ways they will never behave in the manga. I suppose that must have been fun. Who knows what the extent and meaning of NS in that film is. Maybe it is meant to foreshadow canon NS or it is one of those elements Kishi put in the film because he knows that he won't be putting NS to the manga. Who even knows how much NS there is in the first place, as not many of us have seen the film after all and know everything about it from other sources.

This is the exact reason why I don't like to see RtN being used as NaruSaku proof. Kishimoto said that the movie is basically everything he couldn't put in the manga, that might include NaruSaku as well.

Hmm, who knows what Kishimoto is trying to do.
Still can't wait for RtN Sasuke though!

[Qia]

This is the exact reason why I don't like to see RtN being used as NaruSaku proof. Kishimoto said that the movie is basically everything he couldn't put in the manga, that might include NaruSaku as well.

Hmm, who knows what Kishimoto is trying to do.
Still can't wait for RtN Sasuke though!

Even if he said it's basically everything he couldn't put in the manga, it doesn't necessarily have to mean that he means NS. It could mean specific moments that occur between them, or it may have barely anything to do with pairings at all. We know for sure that Sakura's parents are one of those things though...which sucks.

Edited by Qia, 26 January 2013 - 11:37 PM.

[Chatte]

When he said that, he was clearly referring at Sakura's parents, Minato and Kushina's relationship so on and so forth.

[MangaReader]

This is the exact reason why I don't like to see RtN being used as NaruSaku proof. Kishimoto said that the movie is basically everything he couldn't put in the manga, that might include NaruSaku as well.

Hmm, who knows what Kishimoto is trying to do.
Still can't wait for RtN Sasuke though!

I don't think anyone can force him to choose a different pairing XD

[六道仙人]

When he said that, he was clearly referring at Sakura's parents, Minato and Kushina's relationship so on and so forth.

true...

[Chatte]

true...

He even made it clear in the interview about Sakura's parents.

[六道仙人]

yeah.... I remember that day... He was clear about that during the interview regarding Sakura and her parents... He admited then he made anime staff crying because he was been very selfish about the story... I guess that Kishimoto and anime staff were in conflict on some stuff...

[neoshadow]

I guess that Kishimoto and anime staff were in conflict on some stuff...

If I had to guess probably the lack of screen time for the Konoha 11. They were emphasized in the marketing quite a bit but appear in the movie briefly making it look like they had a much larger role, it seems like something that the anime staff would've liked to use more based on the earlier movies, and I can't say I'd blame them.