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#9141 BlueStarSaber

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:47 PM

Say I found this thread on the Naruto base on Hinata's love for Naruto made by someone who appears to be natural when it comes to pairings. It seems to make positive points on Hinata and her love for Naruto, but it does not say she must get with Naruto nor does it implies bashing of any sought. So I was wondering if this would be interesting to discuss without anyone feeling the need to bash http://narutobase.ne...ad.php?t=441234



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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:49 PM

Sasuke already broke the bond he has with Sakura, the only bond he has is with Naruto and this was shown over and over, the only thing happens when he thinks about her, it's the team 7 thing and still Naruto is the focus of it.
Last time we saw he thinking about his bonds we could barely see Sakura it was focused on Naruto and his will to erase his past by killing Naruto, Sakura or even Kakash wasnt even take in account.

Couldn't agree more. Naruto is the only one that's holding that bond. Also, the last time it was a full on Team 7 focus, not one favoritism, is Killer Bee and that's only because it was a team focus.

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:51 PM

Couldn't agree more. Naruto is the only one that's holding that bond. Also, the last time it was a full on Team 7 focus, not one favoritism, is Killer Bee and that's only because it was a team focus.

 

I wonder how Sakura is goanna confront Sasuke about this?



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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:53 PM

Couldn't agree more. Naruto is the only one that's holding that bond. Also, the last time it was a full on Team 7 focus, not one favoritism, is Killer Bee and that's only because it was a team focus.

The scratch was on Naruto not on the entire team.

Meaning that his only bond is with the team 7 not individual like Sasuke > Sakura or Sasuke > Kakashi, it's only Sasuke to Naruto which holds the bond with the team 7.

He doesnt look at them individually but as whole while with Naruto is individually.


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:54 PM

 
I wonder how Sakura is goanna confront Sasuke about this?

Well, she already left Naruto to do that. The only thing she can do is to rethink her own feelings with him.

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:05 PM

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Obirin = NS purpose for me, to answer the question if naruto love sakura or not. I mean even after 631 there're people who think naruto didn't serious. And yes I agree with you the parallel only highlight naruto feeling, not sakura. Because I believe kishi will make it canon in the end of manga.

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:26 PM

The scratch was on Naruto not on the entire team.
Meaning that his only bond is with the team 7 not individual like Sasuke > Sakura or Sasuke > Kakashi, it's only Sasuke to Naruto which holds the bond with the team 7.
He doesnt look at them individually but as whole while with Naruto is individually.

Yeah, I know. He never think of that individually. Just Naruto. Falls to the victim of brotherhood.
  

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Obirin = NS purpose for me, to answer the question if naruto love sakura or not. I mean even after 631 there're people who think naruto didn't serious. And yes I agree with you the parallel only highlight naruto feeling, not sakura. Because I believe kishi will make it canon in the end of manga.

Well, the parallel can serve a lot than just Naruto's feelings. It also does leave a message of surpassing. Anyway, the parallel can lead to many things, but it all depends on the direction. Lastly, this parallel can really make it more obvious than ever and at this point, it is time to give in. So again, the parallel can lead to much mkfe , it's only matter of time.

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:43 PM

Watch Kishi pull a total troll and have Naruto get with Ino. She did say she could fall for him after the fight with Pain, so...there's a veeeeeeeeeeeeery small possibility lol.

 

I still approve. I am perfectly fine with any female character other than Hinata getting with Naruto.

 

Though I'd prefer Sakura :P


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:50 PM

Well I do crackship NaruIno..but I prefer them as a brother and sister ship. This is just my ideal fanfic headcanon though, they should be closer friends in the manga. :P


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:51 PM

I'm still wondering just why people go overborad with the simple concept thinking that Naruto and Sakura ending up together, to them its a disaster equivalent to a nuclear reactor aboard one of the 11 US aircraft carriers going critical and irradiating the surrounding ocean it takes place on.

 

I mean is reading really that hard for some fans or is it really just blind fanism at this time? I mean I stumbed across some guy called Commander Kurama on tumblr, and okay yes he is putting down NS and saying stuff like NH has already done 3 laps around it, but seriously. I'm getting tired of the numerous anti-ns arguments that either rely on just downgrading or twisting stuff with Naruto and Sakura and somehow trying to insert SS into the mix or just using NH fillers saying this matters but none of the NS manga stuff does or that 469 is still "the end" of NS despite we got a good clear answer that Sakura has been the only girl in anyway shape or form so far canonically compared to Kushina and that Naruto still has feelings for her. Not to mention the lack of NH in the manga being summed up to just the neji fight, pain event, and 615 and this should somehow justify it as the main pairing despite the other frequent stuff NS has shown. Worst of all, in most arguments I've seen from NH hardly give a concise argument to actually boost their own. Maybe is it because NS has a lot more focus this is just too easy for us to argue our side? Even over events like 469 which even have Kishi commenting why he portrayed Sakura like that not out of the simpleton approach all these haters give it trying to just make the 4 of them go to the land of iron for ending a possible pairing for almost no reason to switch to something else with is hardly addressed or hardly touched upon. I don't debate with NS haters much because its become too easy at this point. I feel the more this goes on, because NS has the best developed relationship (even if left as just friendship) it still blows all others out of the water. I feel like this point any fan arguing for NS against NH who has read the manga and has good reading skills, (competent and not twisting or using bias) could understand NS has a much bigger presence and potential than the others. More reason for it. Its like if we had to make an evidence war and use the manga only, the comparison would be like NS having the size of the U.S. nuclear arsenal (we crazy Americans have enough weaponry to blow the world over 15 times, maybe we can blame the cold war for that?) while the others would only be like a scattered war torn country like Somalia or Afghanistan. Rather, this is like that scale when we want to include all Naruto media, even the overblown NH stuff from the fillers and such cannot compare to all the NS media given. No matter what there is a bigger presence of NS in any naruto media, but in the manga, because it runs along with the series and has much more focus than NH which has gone unaddressed well, what are people going to expect at this point? Seriously if we get a cold winter morning in the next 6 months with Sakura loving Naruto and people wondering how this occured, Im just going to sit and watch and wait for the rage and confusion of people who cannot even read something for a freaking 5th to 8th grade level. Its that easy, not every event is final, this is exactly what happened with 469 and look what 631 did, otherwise why would kishi have wasted so much time when he could have actually used the time to further NH rather than just gimp on NH development if it was to become canon? See how stupid that sounds, even more reason NH has its work cut out for it if its even going to attempt to be canon. 631 put a big issue for NH no matter how fans look at it, Naruto still liking Sakura and the Sakura Kushina deal, well what else is Kushinas foreshadow going on right now? There are no other girls canonically compared to her so far. The manga is near the end and Hinata has no purpose in the Naruto vs Sasuke fight where Sakura does. NS has a front row seat to that fight, NH has no purpose there.



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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:52 PM

Commander Kurama is the leader of the anti NS fanclub on NF, so don't be surprised. XD ^


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:59 PM

Before I post something else, here's a question.

At what point was the moment of "Abandon ship?" Even if you stay on the ship, still name a point that gives you that vibe.

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 11:08 PM

Before I post something else, here's a question.

At what point was the moment of "Abandon ship?" Even if you stay on the ship, still name a point that gives you that vibe.

If I start believing the characters are not good for eachother, or if I ever were to write a fic or headcanon I would have to make them OOC to make them fit.

 

I've never left a ship, but I had a thing for ErenxMikasa a little while. Now I think especially Mikasa needs to grow as a person before she gets with Eren if she ever does. I am now neutral to the ship, yet open for it, it just doesn't seem like Isayama is taking the road I thought he would. I even tend to understand and agree with him in some aspects and I will not ask him "why? :umm:"(unlike NS) if they don't get together.

 

Just an example.


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 11:12 PM

Good post though I meant what already happened. Like did 437 gives you abandon ship feeling even if you stick by it? Did 615 give you that? Oh ho, I know tons on that one.

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 11:16 PM

I just found it funny how the whole concept of shipping with the Naruto fandom, if something like NS goes canon then Nh would be an aircraft carrier going down in a nuclear accident and chaos would follow all in that surrounding area, why are shipping metaphors just chaotically funny like that?



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Posted 30 September 2013 - 11:19 PM

Before I post something else, here's a question.

At what point was the moment of "Abandon ship?" Even if you stay on the ship, still name a point that gives you that vibe.

 

I'd have to say that when I was watching the pre-Shippuden Filler arcs on Toonami (this is before I knew there was such a thing as manga) was the only point I thought that NaruHina might happen, but fast-forward a few years I started reading the manga and haven't lost hope since.


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 11:20 PM

I just found it funny how the whole concept of shipping with the Naruto fandom, if something like NS goes canon then Nh would be an aircraft carrier going down in a nuclear accident and chaos would follow all in that surrounding area, why are shipping metaphors just chaotically funny like that?

Or SS and NH being the same boat. The Titanic would fit those two perfectly.

 

NH = the front end of the ship. It just went under. 

 

The rear of the ship = SS which will bob in the water for a while after the ship snaps apart. But eventually sink to its watery grave.


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 11:20 PM

Nh = obirin

For me it's the ultimate insult.

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 11:22 PM

Nh = obirin

For me it's the ultimate insult.

More like the ultimate WTF O_O


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 11:23 PM

Good post though I meant what already happened. Like did 437 gives you abandon ship feeling even if you stick by it? Did 615 give you that? Oh ho, I know tons on that one.

No, because in my head I can only imagine NS being happy together. NS not becoming canon won't make me stop ship them. To me, they make sense..canon or not. I started shipping them in the first place because I liked their relationship, not because I thought they would be canon..that just came along the way.

 

The strongest hesitation I had was the confession because I thought Sakura was simply being mean to Naruto(sillysilly), but that was probably because I hadn't been into the series for long and I was young(er). After I gave it some thought, I changed my mind and my shipping heart was solid.

 

Hope I got you right this time XD


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