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[sushi.]

I was looking for NS. ._. If anyone finds it, it should look like those mysterious letters on my sig, lol placed it there to google it.

[Chatte]

Oh, lol, than it clearly means that all of them are fan-made like on a forum or something. Heh.
And they want to play it as official... Yeah, right!

[Deej]

All the polls seem to be from fan forums. Official? Right.

[Chatte]

All the polls seem to be from fan forums. Official? Right.

At least the so called occidental one is from NarutoBase.
I know the layout since I'm a member there, lol.
Jeez, some are so desperate with things, really. :|

[Don-kun]

^^

I have no clue what any of this means, but the Japanese poll has:

NaruHina - 39.4%
ShikaTema - 33.3%
SasuSaku - 15.2%
NejiHina 6.1%
ItaSasu 6.1%

Does aren't official, type Naruto character popularity poll on the search bar and you will see how many will come up, the thing here is that we all know which are the popular pairing in Japan, the fact that there is no NS, NaruSasu, KakaIru, KakaNaru, show you that there were selected by NH fans. If they could mess-up an interview, ignore manga events what else they will do to convince themselves that NH will happen.

Just type Naruto pairing popularity poll and you will see how many site there are and none are official they could of done the same thing here.

Edited by Don-kun, 26 January 2013 - 02:36 AM.

[sushi.]

Sometimes I see colourpages that looks like popularity polls, they must be official, right?

[neoshadow]

Yup the lack of NaruSasu, NaruSaku, KakaIru etc pretty much dispels it or at least shows it's a selected part of a much bigger picture.
Even outside the omissions I am shocked that any pairing poll has SasuSaku have such a comparatively low rating, from what's been shown in many polls you could easily call it the most popular hetero pairing, to see it get such a low rating in any poll is surprising.

Edited by neoshadow, 26 January 2013 - 02:43 AM.

[Chatte]

Sometimes I see colourpages that looks like popularity polls, they must be official, right?

Those on the manga, yes. They are.
But they're only character popularity poll. As in, individual.
Not pairings.

[MangaReader]

I don't even understand how anyone thinks SasuSaku is a legit pairing... I mean at least Naruto acknowledges Hinata's existence, Sasuke couldn't careless about Sakura, yet people expect him to get a complete personality change when Naruto saves him? How *shrugs*

[sushi.]

I can understand why someone would ship them in fanfics and their imagination, but a canonpairing? wut. No..

[MangaReader]

It's just a bad stereotype pairing... maybe in writing it sounds good, but there's always a catch

[Slextrem]

I'm sorry for quoting my textbook again, but this quote made me smile, and I'm sure it will do the same for everyone else that reads this post!

In regard to attraction, this text compares the idea that people are attracted to those that are similar to them, (i.e. NaruSaku), to the old saying "opposites attract", (i.e. NaruHina).

"There is often a grain of truth in many old sayings, and "opposites attract" is no exception. Some people find that forming a relationship with another person who has complementary qualities (characteristics in the one person that fill a need in the other) can be very rewarding. Research does not support this view of attraction, however. It is similarity, not complementarity, that draws people together and helps them stay together." (Ciccarelli 368)

I know that we're talking about a fictional story with fictional characters that don't have to act the same way that real humans do, but this is still really interesting to think about. The argument of opposites attract for NaruHina has been debunked by research. Typically, complementary qualities do not help form strong relationships or keep a couple together long term. Rather, it is the similarities that the couple shares that draws and keep them together.

I love science.

Edited by Slextrem, 26 January 2013 - 03:13 AM.

[Chatte]

I'm sorry for quoting my textbook again, but this quote made me smile, and I'm sure it will do the same for everyone else that reads this post!

In regard to attraction, this text compares the idea that people are attracted to those that are similar to them, (i.e. NaruSaku), to the old saying "opposites attract", (i.e. NaruHina).

"There is often a grain of truth in many old sayings, and "opposites attract" is no exception. Some people find that forming a relationship with another person who has complementary qualities (characteristics in the one person that fill a need in the other) can be very rewarding. Research does not support this view of attraction, however. It is similarity, not complementarity, that draws people together and helps them stay together." (Ciccarelli 368)

I know that we're talking about a fictional story with fictional characters that don't have to act the same way that real humans do, but this is still really interesting to think about. The argument of opposites attract for NaruHina has been debunked by research. Typically, complementary qualities do not help form strong relationships or keep a couple together long term. Rather, it is the similarities that the couple shares that draws and keep them together.

I love science.

I remember Mizura writing something about that as well... From some science book! I loved that part!

[MangaReader]

I'm sorry for quoting my textbook again, but this quote made me smile, and I'm sure it will do the same for everyone else that reads this post!

In regard to attraction, this text compares the idea that people are attracted to those that are similar to them, (i.e. NaruSaku), to the old saying "opposites attract", (i.e. NaruHina).

"There is often a grain of truth in many old sayings, and "opposites attract" is no exception. Some people find that forming a relationship with another person who has complementary qualities (characteristics in the one person that fill a need in the other) can be very rewarding. Research does not support this view of attraction, however. It is similarity, not complementarity, that draws people together and helps them stay together." (Ciccarelli 368)

I know that we're talking about a fictional story with fictional characters that don't have to act the same way that real humans do, but this is still really interesting to think about. The argument of opposites attract for NaruHina has been debunked by research. Typically, complementary qualities do not help form strong relationships or keep a couple together long term. Rather, it is the similarities that the couple shares that draws and keep them together.

I love science.

I may or may not fine something like this in my Psychology class. If the research does pop up, it's just even more conclusive evidence

[Chucky-kun]

The latest poll taken straight from ChuckyNarutofanbaseforumsheavenandearth.net.com.org.www

Narusaku:100%
SakuNaru:100%
Naruhina:2.6315%
SasuSaku:-9000%

[Qia]

The latest poll taken straight from ChuckyNarutofanbaseforumsheavenandearth.net.com.org.www

Narusaku:100%
SakuNaru:100%
Naruhina:2.6315%
SasuSaku:-9000%

This made me smile xD

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

I'm sorry for quoting my textbook again, but this quote made me smile, and I'm sure it will do the same for everyone else that reads this post!

In regard to attraction, this text compares the idea that people are attracted to those that are similar to them, (i.e. NaruSaku), to the old saying "opposites attract", (i.e. NaruHina).

"There is often a grain of truth in many old sayings, and "opposites attract" is no exception. Some people find that forming a relationship with another person who has complementary qualities (characteristics in the one person that fill a need in the other) can be very rewarding. Research does not support this view of attraction, however. It is similarity, not complementarity, that draws people together and helps them stay together." (Ciccarelli 368)

I know that we're talking about a fictional story with fictional characters that don't have to act the same way that real humans do, but this is still really interesting to think about. The argument of opposites attract for NaruHina has been debunked by research. Typically, complementary qualities do not help form strong relationships or keep a couple together long term. Rather, it is the similarities that the couple shares that draws and keep them together.

I love science.

Cool, we can argue that against the NaruHina fans now. Even though they'd probably deny it, it'd still be funny to see their reactions. I never really did truly understand "opposites attract" argument. Sure, it's possible and it's probably happened a lot in real life, but if you're too different with each other, you can't agree on anything and it can sometimes to lead to trouble.

Though it's important to note that similiar personality-based couples can't always get along. Like I said once before, "When you're a lot like someone, you'll ever kill each other or become the best of friends. No inbetweens." I think for Sakura at first it was the former in the beginning of Part 1 (She tried to act all mature and different from Naruto, despite being almost exactly like him. Inner Sakura's proof of that), but now it's the definitely latter.

I remember a NaruHina fan telling me something about this the other day: "Hinata will get with Naruto because Kishi wrote her to be the polar opposite of him." I still can't believe someone argued that.

Just ... wut?

[MangaReader]

On a lot of NaruSaku stuff I see NaruHina fans posting chapter 615... I have half the mind to tell them to remember the Pain Arc and how that ended XD

[Chatte]

Well... Sakura is like Naruto. Established, right?
I am totally like Sakura (it's even strange, lol)... Established.

I once tried to date someone opposite than myself. Hinata type and I mean it!

Well, we broke-up after the first month.

It's like... I didn't had with whom to argue, lol. He was all like "as you say, we'll do as you wish" so on and so forth. So no, it didn't worked out, at all! That's how I'd see Hinata with Naruto, to be honest. And I'd see Naruto in the end getting bored, as I did. Me and that guy, remained friends, but couldn't date. I'd see the same result with NaruHina as well. Hinata's no challenge for Naruto. The type of personality he has needs to be continuously challenged. And we all know who does that.

So, sorry, but opposite may attract themselves, but they definitely don't wear themselves. At the end, they will go in opposite directions because that's why they're called opposites in the first place.

Edited by Chatte, 26 January 2013 - 05:30 AM.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

You know, I said something on youtube. I got an invasion from all sides.

"Hinata placed herself infront of Naruto, she looked like football keeper that was planning to catch the ball(toothpicks). Then, Neji jumped in mid air and catched them instead."

I am relieved that I am still alive.

Lucky they never bite your head off for that

It's always the quiet ones ....

Joking aside, I partially disagree with you. Hinata is a good-hearted individual with good intentions, and I don't think she only cares about Naruto and herself. Hinata is selfish true and a Naruto satellite, but not "Omg she's such a b*tch" selfish. I believe Hinata cares about others, but her Naruto tunnel vision constantly hinders her. If anything ever involves Naruto, it's like all she sees his Naruto and all she focuses on is her feelings for him. That is a terrible trait for a character to have. She sees everything through rose-tinted glasses when it comes to her love for him, ironically reflecting her fanbase and their love for her. Hinata needs to grow up, and I don't mean that in a harsh way. Perhaps my biggest problem with Hinata is in 573, when unlike the rest (who we reasonably focusing on fighting, as they should), all she cared about was being with Naruto romantically. Why would you think something like that during a war? It's so immature.

Tbh, I miss the Hinata who was satisfied with Naruto's acknowledgement and nothing more in Pt. 1. Now she expects so much more from him, she's determined to be with him. Naruto's acknowledgement of her strength isn't enough anymore. I'd be okay with this, if only she still seemed to care about her Clan and making her father proud. But no, instead of working to fulfil her role, she's still chasing boys and obsessing. Reminds of Part 1 Sakura with her feelings for Sasuke. She neglected her training and focused on her looks so Sasuke could like her. Hinata's doing the same, procastinating her Hyuga heiress role and instead putting "Naruto-kun wil notice me now!" above it. That disappoints me.

If Kishi could only do what you suggested about her heiress role and thinking about her family other than Naruto, I know I could like her. I don't really have any problems with her, it's just her innate selfishness when it comes to Naruto and her love for him that throws me off. It brings out both the best and the worst in her. It's nice she gets inspired by him, but she's blinded to everything else. Never will I forget the moment that she arrived with the alliance, totally ignored the bleeding Guy and Kakashi, and worriedly asked "Naruto-kun, are you alright?!" when he wasn't even that hurt to begin with.

In some ways, Hinata reminds me of a character from the TV show Buffy the Vampire Slayer named Angel (To clarify, he is a boy my friends. ). Buffy was the heroine, and Angel one of her main love interests. Angel's life was a complete and total hellhole beyond imagination, he had absolutely no friends and a lot of other terrible things happened that I can't begin to cover. But then he saw Buffy one day and matter-of-factly claimed to her later he fell in love with her when he first saw her. Total gushy "love at first sight" story. By seeing her, Buffy motivated him to be someone and to change himself, to help people. She inspired him. Just like Hinata with Naruto, he "saved" her and stopped her from giving up. She also always liked him, too. Like Hinata, Angel also loved the image of inspiration and hope Buffy had with him, he didn't truly know her as a person until he got into a relationship with her. Another thing I realized is that Hinata's obsession is similiar to the unhealthy love Angel had for Buffy (Though amazingly, his was more severe). She was literally his world and he could never stay away from her. No one ever mattered like she did, he once stated that himself. She "saved him", so he could never let it go. Clearly, Angel was a very needy guy with her. He also had some problems with petty jealousies and possessiveness to other guys who were into her, even after he broke up with her. Some of his key character flaws: pettiness, jealous, and overprotectiveness .

Angel's character was as one-dimensial and bland as Hinata's is. He was literally nothing more, but a guy who was in love with her. Hinata's terribly Naruto-centric, Angel was terribly Buffy-centric. He disappointed me and was boring, though his story was sympathetic. It was only until after three bad character development years, he broke up with her for her own good because he was holding her back (Long story. You'd have to watch the TV show to get what I mean). Once he left Buffy, and cemented his own friends and goals eventually, he became extremely likable character for me. His satelitte tendencies were gone and you could no longer describe him in one sentence. Angel grew away from his obsession and constant "Buffy, Buffy" thoughts. True, Angel continued to love her years and years after he left her. It never went away or lessened at all. But at least he was more than his feelings for her. It's because of that he's my second favorite character in the series and I actually ship his relationship with Buffy.

Angel is the Hinata-type example in romance that succeded. Hinata is still a failure in that aspect. My entire point with this is that if Hinata grows away from her obsession and learns to focus on other things like her heiress role, I feel like I could like her. I want to, I really do. She's certainly no Angel with his badass fighting, assertive personality, and funny dark quips but it's a start. In my eyes, Hinata can only truly grow when she realizes Naruto is not everything. I'd prefer her to get over him, but I'd deal with it okay if she just takes her Hyuga status more seriously.

My honest opinion is the only way she's going to mature out of this is to take away the source of strength, which is Naruto dying.