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#9021 rikakim94

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 01:45 PM

[quote name='Chatte' date='Jan 24 2013, 05:31 AM' post='432887']
Really?? sad.gif Wow, that sucks...


chatte I know its terrible sad.gif

at first i thought it was a rumor but then i saw the video and the translation and everything......





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Posted 24 January 2013 - 01:52 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 24 2013, 02:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wasn't she the one who asked Kishi that what about Sakura, that she used Naruto's feelings to her advantage? I mean, being her voice actress, I would expect her to know the character better, yet...she was one of those who think Sakura used Naruto...


that's true but I doubt that she made a video interview where she said to dislike Sakura...

Anyway about a 1/2 years ago, someone chatted with her on facebook about the sakura's choice between Naruto and Sasuke if anyone of you remember it well... Her english was poor but still clear btw... We knew that she is/was a SS fan. So someone asked to her what's the best for Sakura. She replied with a strange response that just confused fandoms, especially those's SS... She replied that Sakura would chooses what's the best for her in her own heart or something like that... The strange thing is that she was very neutral here.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 01:54 PM

QUOTE (rikakim94 @ Jan 24 2013, 01:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
at first i thought it was a rumor but then i saw the video and the translation and everything......


Could you post the video?

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:35 PM

QUOTE (Tsubaki @ Jan 23 2013, 11:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"That time, I saw Minato as an amazingly splendid ninja.
He made me believe he could fulfil my dreams, and above all, he changed me…
This ordinary red hair I hated so much had brought me the person of my destiny…
It became the 'red thread of fate'.
Ever since, I liked my own hair and… most of all, I fell in love with Minato."

“I was always chasing you; wanting to overtake you…I just wanted to walk with you…I wanted to be with you. You changed me!
Your smile saved me! So I’m not afraid to die protecting you…Because I love you.”



what do you think about this guys?

Filler from the anime.
Sorry but no.

QUOTE (Derock @ Jan 24 2013, 01:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Its a fake. Keep in mind, that (I don't even know how and why in this lifetime) Kishimoto doesn't have a computer nor has any social media. More importantly, if he has one, he will respond in Japanese, not in English.

He has a computer but it's not fond of social media(but he uses one) and plus no one of the workers on shounen jump japan is following him.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 24 January 2013 - 02:38 PM.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:03 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Jan 24 2013, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Filler from the anime.
Sorry but no.


Actually, it's cannon...


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:20 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 24 2013, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually, it's cannon...


It just shows that for Hinata, Naruto is everything but with Kushina it was likely the inverse, Minato changed the way Kushina looked at herself, and with Hinata was her finding her ninja way which is Naruto.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:25 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Jan 24 2013, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It just shows that for Hinata, Naruto is everything but with Kushina it was likely the inverse, Minato changed the way Kushina looked at herself, and with Hinata was her finding her ninja way which is Naruto.

I know, just pointing that it was cannon.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:33 PM

So Naruto is the damsel to be conquered while Hinata is the prince that will change "her" ... It's funny since that theoretically Naruto is a shounen manga: D

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:36 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Jan 24 2013, 12:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So Naruto is the damsel to be conquered while Hinata is the prince that will change "her" ... It's funny since that theoretically Naruto is a shounen manga: D

it's kinda weird because Minato had the work all his way out for Kushina's affection and he only achieved it when he changed her, not with a smile but showing to her that she's way better than she thinks.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:40 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Jan 24 2013, 04:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So Naruto is the damsel to be conquered while Hinata is the prince that will change "her" ... It's funny since that theoretically Naruto is a shounen manga: D

It's funny because according to NH, that pairing will break the shounen rule. Therefore making an original story. Sawyer7mage said something like that, he also said that there are much more important things than pairings. At the same time, the story will be a clichè if NS happens..

Just like NS will happen just because they are main characters, or because it's a shounen. Besides, it's a difference between sticking to his own genre and making a clichè. So if Naruto was a shoujo, he should end up with Sakura because no that's the shoujo originalitytype..waaatt, logic fail, I don't get it. I should stop writing and eat my ice cream. smile.gif

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:44 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 24 2013, 07:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's funny because according to NH, that pairing will break the shounen rule. Therefore making an original story. Sawyer7mage said something like that, he also said that there are much more important things than pairings. At the same time, the story will be a clichè if NS happens..

Just like NS will happen just because they are main characters, or because it's a shounen. Besides, it's a difference between sticking to his own genre and making a clichè. So if Naruto was a shoujo, he should end up with Sakura because no that's the shoujo originalitytype..waaatt, logic fail, I don't get it. I should stop writing and eat my ice cream. smile.gif


Yeah, I feel like giving myself some shock therapy trying to follow that pattern of thinking... XD It's so weird! Besides, Sakura didn't even love Naruto at first! XD She is starting to figure it out right now, but it isn't easy! And at least it wouldn't feel forced. I mean, I know I may be off track here, but one flaw I had in pairings for The Legend of Korra was how forced it seemed Korra and Mako ending up together was, when the writers could have done something different, given it was kinda cliché.

But with NaruSaku, it's different since Sakura didn't even like Naruto at first, but that changes over time, to the point she actually mentions how more any nearly anyone else, Naruto has always been there for her, and helped her when she needed someone most, and he also is someone he believes in her the most.

Edited by Bryon_Konoha_Ninja, 24 January 2013 - 03:48 PM.


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:51 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 24 2013, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's funny because according to NH, that pairing will break the shounen rule. Therefore making an original story. Sawyer7mage said something like that, he also said that there are much more important things than pairings. At the same time, the story will be a clichè if NS happens..

Just like NS will happen just because they are main characters, or because it's a shounen. Besides, it's a difference between sticking to his own genre and making a clichè. So if Naruto was a shoujo, he should end up with Sakura because no that's the shoujo originalitytype..waaatt, logic fail, I don't get it. I should stop writing and eat my ice cream. smile.gif

Hinata is clingy, and the fact that Hinata can only act heroish when Naruto is close she has no other motive, Neji's death is a proof of it, everyone suffered from it but since Naruto was close she acted like Neji was not really important as Naruto.
Kushina wasnt like that.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:56 PM

QUOTE (Bryon_Konoha_Ninja @ Jan 24 2013, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I feel like giving myself some shock therapy trying to follow that pattern of thinking... XD It's so weird! Besides, Sakura didn't even love Naruto at first! XD She is starting to figure it out right now, but it isn't easy! And at least it wouldn't feel forced. I mean, I know I may be off track here, but one flaw I had in pairings for The Legend of Korra was how forced it seemed Korra and Mako ending up together was, when the writers could have done something different, given it was kinda cliché.

But with NaruSaku, it's different since Sakura didn't even like Naruto at first, but that changes over time, to the point she actually mentions how more any nearly anyone else, Naruto has always been there for her, and helped her when she needed someone most, and he also is someone he believes in her the most.

I never really cared about MakoxKorra. I have nothing against it and it doesn't decrease my enjoyment of the series, but I tend to ship the canon pairing. This is one of the few exceptions.

It's because the base of their relationship were sheer attraction(and jealousy lol), not any buildup of friendship, bonding or comfort. Katara comforted Aang numerous times, they made eachother smile and she seemed to be the only who who could calm him down in a stressful situation. Mako and Korra don't have that, maybe I would've shipped them more if Mako found out about Korra's angst in episode 4 and comforted her. Mike and Bryan even had to sacrifice two awesome characters' hearts to make them canon. facepalm.png

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Jan 24 2013, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hinata is clingy, and the fact that Hinata can only act heroish when Naruto is close she has no other motive, Neji's death is a proof of it, everyone suffered from it but since Naruto was close she acted like Neji was not really important as Naruto.
Kushina wasnt like that.

I don't understand how that is a reply to my post, but I agree with you.

Edited by sushi., 24 January 2013 - 03:57 PM.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:02 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 24 2013, 07:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I never really cared about MakoxKorra. I have nothing against it and it doesn't decrease my enjoyment of the series, but I tend to ship the canon pairing. This is one of the few exceptions.

It's because the base of their relationship were sheer attraction(and jealousy lol), not any buildup of friendship, bonding or comfort. Katara comforted Aang numerous times, they made eachother smile and she seemed to be the only who who could calm him down in a stressful situation. Mako and Korra don't have that, maybe I would've shipped them more if Mako found out about Korra's angst in episode 4 and comforted her. Mike and Bryan even had to sacrifice two awesome characters' hearts to make them canon. facepalm.png


Trust me, Sushi, a lot of times, I try to ship the canon pairing, but Mako x Korra was one of the exceptions due to it being rushed, or having the "Red String of Fate" strangling them like a garrot. It's like with sorato in Digimon, given Matt and Sora had NO developement unlike Tai AND Sora did.

This is why I was worried at first with the hand holding from Naruto and Hinata that Kishimoto was just gonna try to focus NaruHina on us without giving them proper developement, which would be dumb. Especially since nothing between Naruto and Sakura has happened in a while, and I bet Sakura thinks Naruto hates her due to his reaction to the confession when she wanted him to stop chasing Sasuke, considering he didn't realize she wanted to ease the burden she put on him.


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:03 PM

Anyway, the most basic thing with Hinata is that she never disliked Naruto at first, like Kushina did with Minato.
Whereas a certain other female did...

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:03 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 24 2013, 08:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's funny because according to NH, that pairing will break the shounen rule. Therefore making an original story. Sawyer7mage said something like that, he also said that there are much more important things than pairings. At the same time, the story will be a clichè if NS happens..

Just like NS will happen just because they are main characters, or because it's a shounen. Besides, it's a difference between sticking to his own genre and making a clichè. So if Naruto was a shoujo, he should end up with Sakura because no that's the shoujo originalitytype..waaatt, logic fail, I don't get it. I should stop writing and eat my ice cream. smile.gif


Well people like cliche it never gets old at least to the Japanese. Shounen pairings have been accepted and famous by Japan and they don't seem to mind if NS happens they're not that stupid they can clearly see its going to be NS in the end unlike western fans. Sawyer7mage is smarter than he is, but apparently he can be very biased and him saying NH will break the shounen rule that pretty much is bias. I bet he can see it too it's going to be NS but he doesn't want to admit it. Now that you mention it I will find it quite cliche if the male protagonist ends up with the shy girl who has always been in love with him instead of the girl with a fan girl crush that treats the protagonist mean at the beginning and eventually she falls in love with him as the story goes.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:15 PM

ya know...i feel bad for sakura's VA

i feel bad for sakura.....

she has so much potential as a character and kishi isn't using it...

if i was writing naruto i would never push her to the side like this....


it's so hard to find a good heroine in a good manga these days.......
in american cartoons(especially superhero ones) the girls are kicking butt right along side the dudes.....so it's frustrating to see sakura and many other konoha girls be supporting or barely shown fighting......

it's easy to make a kickbutt minor character......but why is a heroine so hard?

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:32 PM

QUOTE (Atheck @ Jan 24 2013, 04:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm also curious now. Particularly about whether she may be aware of certain details pertaining to the future of the manga that we may not. Would Pierrot or members from the anime team happen to have been told anything about its future by Kishi? This is a question directed at others here. Like could there have been an interview or statements made by the voice actors/actresses that would imply them having additional knowledge about what's to come?

It is sad to hear that Nakamura supports the opposing pairing. You know I heard elsewhere on other forums that she was supposedly taking a break from the anime for a year. Is that true or is it just a farfetched rumor?


I doubt that! The mangaka rarely has any connection with the anime team. This is something I've been hearing in other fandoms too. Even TVTropes stated that (I konw, this is not a good source, but it's ok) :

Unless they work in very close tandem with the writer of the original manga, which is very rare since they're usually really busy with the manga as it is, so the people in charge of the anime will thus have to start making things up on their own, and create a unique plotline from the point they ran out of manga to base things on.

Even the editors don't know what will happen for sure. They probably are people who know more about the future of the manga,  but they don't know everything and probably don't know how it will end. I can use as an example Tite Kubo's editor, he tried to make predictions of which espadas would return in this last arc, he said the Harribel was a unlikely option and then... she was the first espada to appear in the manga.

and about Nakamura supports NaruHina, I really was a little disappointed, I thought the fact that she is Sakura's voice actor she probably would prefer the Sakura end up with someone like Naruto, but if she's a SasuSaku fan so it's no surprise she be NaruHina too, but it's good to clarify that this is just her opinion, it doesn't change anything in the manga or how it will end.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 05:58 PM

QUOTE (rikakim94 @ Jan 24 2013, 10:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
About the japanese voice actress of Sakura there was this video were she was asked if she liked sakura.

she said she didn't like sakura or something like that....... i was disappointed in the actress sad.gif. I think the video was in this website awhile ago some one made topic out of it.



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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:16 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jan 24 2013, 07:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well people like cliche it never gets old at least to the Japanese. Shounen pairings have been accepted and famous by Japan and they don't seem to mind if NS happens they're not that stupid they can clearly see its going to be NS in the end unlike western fans. Sawyer7mage is smarter than he is, but apparently he can be very biased and him saying NH will break the shounen rule that pretty much is bias. I bet he can see it too it's going to be NS but he doesn't want to admit it. Now that you mention it I will find it quite cliche if the male protagonist ends up with the shy girl who has always been in love with him instead of the girl with a fan girl crush that treats the protagonist mean at the beginning and eventually she falls in love with him as the story goes.

Yeah. I mean manga isn't a Hollywood movie where the ones that has one main character and we'll see which girl/boy he/she'll be with, which there's a lot of movies like that. Japanese knows the principles of manga, and they're at ease.

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