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[Enermil]

Here I have some scans from vol 28 spanish version

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Sakura thinking

Of course he hasn´t changed only in the physical way, he is more mature too. It´s sad to admit it but you have become a man, Naruto.

Knowing you, I´m sure that your have learned a lot of incredible techniques before coming home

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Sakura when she grabs Naruto

Hasn´t your little brain matured anything?

It´s been two years without seeing you and in less than two minutes you show me that you are more an idiot than before.

What do I do now with the feelings you awakened in me idiot? Should I eat them?

Here I was thinking that I would miss seeing your foolishness.

The translations might not be accurate in certain things due to spanish jokes and expressions.

[Radon]

I've seen a lot of the initial trans refer to it as her "shining shojo heart" so it's possible. And curse the Spanish and their official part 2 trans -.-;

[Enermil]

And curse the Spanish and their official part 2 trans -.-;

What´s the matter with the spanish translation?

[Radon]

Nothing, it's just I like having my official English translation from VIZ after they come out here but sadly the US and Canada are still stuck before the Sasuke retrieval ark. They are gonna do an accelerated release schedule so that we get part 2 by mid January 08' but still, were damn far behind.

[Enermil]

Nothing, it's just I like having my official English translation from VIZ after they come out here but sadly the US and Canada are still stuck before the Sasuke retrieval ark. They are gonna do an accelerated release schedule so that we get part 2 by mid January 08' but still, were damn far behind.

I see, but here Naruto was published five years ago when no one knew Naruto, before it reached it´s huge popularity thanks to the fansubs. 6 vol per year is the rate in Spain. One vol every two months. It´s been a very long way to reach part 2.

[Kasey]

OMGROFLLOLMAOWTFBBQ!!!!1!1!1!!!111oneoneone. Some of the choices were funny as feck. oh god, mah ribs, oh mah lungs.... Summons gang hump????? oh god have mercy on my soul.

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Rock on!

[Nick Soapdish]

"Should I eat them?"

[shiroihato]

I feel real sad... look at how desperate SasuSakuers are... how low can you get...?

It Burns!!

Not only is it disgusting, it's rude to the people who like SasuIno.

EDIT: Probably should have put "Some" in there, sorry.

I understand that is not all sasusaku fans views. And I'm not excatly pro-InoSasu myself, though I have nothing agaist the people who enjoy it. I just haven't found much background, though I'd enjoy hearing it. ....Anyway, back to what I was saying, I just have to point out that Sauke is a bit ooc, don't you think? Did you catch the sarcasm, LOL.

[Enermil]

"Should I eat them?"

Typical Spanish expression, used in an ironical way when you are disappointed . You can see that Sakura is using it that way because she was thinking that Naruto was more mature and she is going to miss "her idiot", only to be seriously disppointed when he sees that Naruto is still an immature idiot.

[Nick Soapdish]

Typical Spanish expression, used in an ironical way when you are disappointed . You can see that Sakura is using it that way because she was thinking that Naruto was more mature and she is going to miss "her idiot", only to be seriously disppointed when he sees that Naruto is still an immature idiot.

I was hoping it was an expression.

[crimson_lily]

I feel real sad... look at how desperate SasuSakuers are... how low can you get...?

It Burns!!

Not only is it disgusting, it's rude to the people who like SasuIno.

EDIT: Probably should have put "Some" in there, sorry.


Wow that is sad

[gamerman_007]

For the good of the world, and for mozzarella cheese, these debates must end. It's old, tired, and wasteful.

Damn those newbies for reviving them.

[Hopestar]

Face it guys they shall continue until the end of Naruto but there's a chance that the pairing war shall if Naruto, Sakura, & Sasuke arent paired with anyone. Simple take Dragonball GT pairings Trunks/Pan or Trunks /Marron for example.

[whoamii]

Lol, if by the end of Naruto there still aren't any established pairings, the world shall face WWIII Yikes...the horror.

...Or should I say AnimeVerse War I? or AVWII if you count the DBZ...I guess...

[ChibiChan]

^
Good call! xD AMWWII probably: It shall go down in history!! FOREVER!! xD
Man...if Kishimoto leaves it unresolved...that's so many tedious and dedicated blood/sweat/tearing hours of...dedication...that the Naruto pairing-verse have just wasted

If When NaruSaku is decided however, I just hope Kishimoto makes it good and that the animators animate it well

[Daidoji_Tangen]

Here's a fun comparison between NaruSaku and NaruHina development:

The Kyuubi

Sakura is (I'm almost certain, I don't feel like going back through the entire series to check) the only person that Naruto has ever told about the *Kyuubi.

Hinata has been told by Kabuto. Not Naruto.

Naruto's decision to tell her shows the depths of his trust and feelings and her closeness to him. It does seem to be true she had learned beforehand, but Naruto still wanted her to hear it from him. He still felt the need to tell her.

NaruHina fans might say Naruto might later tell Hinata too, but considering he was there when she found out, it would be be kinda redundant.

Also, the second part is the development between the two.

Naruto and Sakura's relationship was developed for most of the chapter with her thinking about his suffering and promising to save him and Sasuke.

Naruto and Hinata were ignored after Kabuto left. Seriously, Kishimoto could had the scene switch back to them during the Sasuke/Deidra fight to drag it out if anything. But apparently, he felt that one of Naruto's biggest and darkest secerts being revealed to Hinata really wasn't important enough to go into.

This also kinda digs at the arguement that Naruto opened up to Hinata in ways he had never before or since with anyone else before the Chunin Exam. Hinata can be argued to just happen to be in the right place at the right time. Naruto didn't run into anyone else.

He has had plenty of time to reveal his secert to others, but has chosen only to reveal it to Sakura.

*Some people will argue that Naruto didn't confess only to Sakura.

1. Temari just happened to be there and overhear. He wasn't talking to her.

2. He said monster in front of Shikamaru (who thought he was full of ****). It really doesn't count as a confession if you make some vague comment full of bravado that's not even believed. Likely, he purposely said monster and not Kyuubi to not give away his secert.

3. Gaara realized he was telling the truth. But like with Shikamaru, Naruto didn't say Kyuubi. The difference is when he says "monster inside me," Naruto is making a threat full of confidence in his power. When he says Kyuubi, he's admitting the monster that destroyed the village is inside him.

This arguement is not argueing that he has never admitted to being a junchuuriki in front of someone besides Sakura. It's saying he never told anyone else that he has the monster that almost destroyed the village, killed the Fourth leaving no suitable replacement (otherwise, the Third would not have come out of retirement), and killed alot of shinobi.

He has boosted about his power, but not his pain to others.

4. Lee was unconscious.

5. Orochimaru told Sasuke, or Sasuke figured it out by the comments the Kyuubi made.

6. Danzo probaly told Sai. Naruto has never mentioned it to him (I think, certainly not before the bridge where Sai think about the Kyuubi's power).

[Nick Soapdish]

He didn't actually tell Sakura although he didn't seem concerned about her knowing.

He mentioned it in front of her, but he prefaced it by saying "I'm sure that you already know". The statement, and more the reflection on Gaara's past, did spur a flashback for her. We find out later that Sakura learned on her own, but we don't find out her initial reaction. Presumably, it would've been at least a bit different from that scene since we would've gotten some surprise or something.


We don't know who told Hinata.

Kakashi mentioned that he was a jinchuuriki in front of her and the rest of Team 8, but nobody even blinked. So presumably they had already learned of it at some other point. Kishi didn't use the scene as an opportunity to show Hinata's reaction to Naruto's past. She had already known that he was considered a loser, but didn't give up about it, but she didn't seem to know about the loneliness and prejudice that he faced. Now the Kabuto scene as written (as I understand it) wasn't especially conducive to showing her reaction, but it easily could've been particularly if he'd shown more interaction between them before. The earlier one could've easily had a quick page or two of Team 8's reactions, focusing on Hinata's and me-tooing by Kiba and Shino. Kishi hasn't had a problem interrupting fight scenes or conversation scenes for stuff like that in the past.

So it suggests to me that her reaction to that part of his life just isn't important in Kishi's mind.

[Daidoji_Tangen]

He didn't actually tell Sakura although he didn't seem concerned about her knowing.

He mentioned it in front of her, but he prefaced it by saying "I'm sure that you already know". The statement, and more the reflection on Gaara's past, did spur a flashback for her. We find out later that Sakura learned on her own, but we don't find out her initial reaction. Presumably, it would've been at least a bit different from that scene since we would've gotten some surprise or something.
We don't know who told Hinata.

Kakashi mentioned that he was a jinchuuriki in front of her and the rest of Team 8, but nobody even blinked. So presumably they had already learned of it at some other point. Kishi didn't use the scene as an opportunity to show Hinata's reaction to Naruto's past. She had already known that he was considered a loser, but didn't give up about it, but she didn't seem to know about the loneliness and prejudice that he faced. Now the Kabuto scene as written (as I understand it) wasn't especially conducive to showing her reaction, but it easily could've been particularly if he'd shown more interaction between them before. The earlier one could've easily had a quick page or two of Team 8's reactions, focusing on Hinata's and me-tooing by Kiba and Shino. Kishi hasn't had a problem interrupting fight scenes or conversation scenes for stuff like that in the past.

So it suggests to me that her reaction to that part of his life just isn't important in Kishi's mind.

I know Sakura knew about it beforehand. But she is the only Naruto confessed it to (even though he realized she already knew, he felt the need to tell her himself). Sorry if I wasn't being clear.

And yeah, I forgot about the reference to Naruto being a junchuuriki at the beginning of the hunt. Both there, and when Kabuto gets more detailed, Hinata's reaction to Naruto's biggest secert isn't shown at all. Not very supportive of NaruHina.

[Nick Soapdish]

Don't agree about the first. I don't ask my sisters out on dates and they don't flirt with me like Sakura has been in part 2.

Being a DBZ fan doesn't mean that he's going to copy everything. Somebody that knows more (like anything ) about DBZ will have to do more with it.

She's different from the other girls in that respect although Tenten and Temari weren't that interested in Sasuke either nor did either mistreat Naruto (possibly due to a lack of opportunity). That's all ancient history.

I don't even understand the reasoning behind the point of the last comment. Are they saying that Kishi has been unable to develop the relationship because he's been unable to give her screentime? And regarding the rapid development of their relationship, Sakura's turnaround in her estimation of Naruto took fewer chapters and Naruto has shown similar swift turnarounds in his opinion of Lee, Gaara, Neji, Chouji, Shikamaru, Tsunade and maybe more. Hinata isn't unique in that respect.

[canis]

I guess I can't comment on the parallel to DBZ since I never read the manga but even if Kishi is a fan of Toriyama it doesn't mean he would ollow the pattern of the series.

Hinata really has recognized Naruto from the start, but that doesn't make her the more likely choice.
Sure, Naruto stated, that he liked people like her but apart from that there was just to little development between them.
Apart from that I don't think Hinata should be put on a pedestal, like some NaruHina Fans like to do. She's got issues and pretty serious ones at that. Being shy and having low self esteem may look cute in the manga, but it really hampers your growth. Her teamleader herself admitted, that she used to be a quitter and pretty unreliable (During her fight in the Preliminaries). Just ignoring that would make her seem like a pretty doll and honestly Hinata is not as twodimensional as that.
Besides to me it would make more sense for her to grow for herself. Naruto may have inspired her fighting for recognition just like she wants to, but if she would just change for him wouldn't really help her get on with her life.
Let's see what the author has in store for her, but I really doubt that she will replace Sakura as Naruto's love-interest. They had their moments during the last arcs and if Kishi would want to shift focus he would need her to do some catching up (He's claiming if NaruHina had more screentime it would happen? But it doesn't have it atm )...
And Naruto's reaction to Sakura's development (Naruto's smile during the second bell-test at her super-strength or his awe at the performance of her medical skills when she saved Kankurou) as well as his face when Sakura was about to feed him (He looked like a small boy at christmas ) made it pretty clear where his heart lies imo....

He, but if you really wanna shut him up, let him read Mizuras Essay