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[James S Cassidy]

Can i join in? i feel like im the only few ns fans that hates the comparison/parallels towards ns and sk. It just does not feel right ns should be a stand alone pairing.   
 

 

What's really going to blow your mind is is in reality NS is the only pairing that stands alone out of the big four. Especially considering that every other couple tried to imitate it with failed attempts.

Also, personally speaking, I always said they were mirrored, not parallel. (Yes, I consider it different) Which is what Kishimoto did in chapters 660 onward. They are pretty much mirrored in aspects of show casing the girl going after the boy that she loves. In which case, is true. I believe Kishi purposely done this not show parallel, but rather to show that both pairings are supposed to be like this. You can hate it and you can dislike the fact that Kishi did it, but the fact that he has purposely mirrored them is by no accident or interpretation.

Take a look at the other pairings though and see what they tried to accomplished and failed. Now look at where NaruSaku has succeeded. It is almost like the other pairings are trying to imitate NS to the core. However, I don't see NS and SK as a parallel so much as an alternate versions of each other. A flip on how things can go.
 

NaruSaku is the only pairing that has remained steadily rising and not once has it been asspulled into existence. Sure, there are rough patches, but nothing ever just magically fixed itself with it unlike SK where Sasuke just suddenly feels remorse for Karin after he purposely stabbed her or NH with the crap that is 615. I can go on for days on why these felt wrong, but in all honestly SK probably would have worked out if the Kage Summit Arc never happened. The whole thing with "Sasuke stabbed Karin and now they are "back together"" so to speak is what is really leaving bad tastes in people's mouths. I don't blame them, but we can't change that and we can't deny the fact that Kishimoto is purposely trying to push for it.

 

It's one more reason why I like NaruSaku because it is the only pairing that can stand alone and is self-sufficient.

 

[六道仙人]

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3047666764

 

^ The entire RAW

 

someone from MS staff screwed-up the internal netiquette.

[rocci]

 
someone from MS staff screwed-up the internal netiquette.

So did ms translation right or wrong?

[Gojira]

the link doesn't work for me.

[megi]

Oh wow! such high quality raw haha! Great, thanks! 

 

*Edit: Uh, are these the real raw? Why do they have mangastream thing on them? I think it's just a translation?

 

*Figured it out haha

Edited by megi, 18 May 2014 - 02:07 AM.

[redrose3443]

I hope next chapter isn't filler. This one was more made to be a cliffhanger than anything else.

 

 

p.s. Thanks for the explanation DattebayoXShannaro about Sakura's build up.

Edited by redrose3443, 18 May 2014 - 02:14 AM.

[Gojira]

what is the raw about basically? Generally speaking.

[咲耶姫]

Translation of the page which caused so much drama this week:

 

 

サクラ「気にしないで…ナルと」

サクラ「(…サスケくんは…私の事…)」

 

Sakura: Don’t worry about me, Naruto

Sakura: (internally) Sasuke-kun…about me..

 

She trails off and it's left unsaid, but MS and MP are right in that she's asking if he cares about her. They left the "about me" out for some reason though. So it's basically, "Sasuke-kun, do you care about me", although the care part is implied rather than directly asked. The "koto" (事) also means that she isn't just implying her well being, but that she wants to know where she stands with him in general, since him not seeming to care for her injury makes her question what he thinks about her.

 

I'm glad Sakura's coming to the realization that Sasuke doesn't hold her in high esteem. I think this could lead to a final confirmation of what she means to Sasuke (nothing). Finally she might get the final push to move on from him.

 

 

It doesn't change anything for me, I always thought it was logic she was talking about herself and not Sasuke's care in general. Plus, it's better for us, since she's realizing he doesn't care about HER.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Should I write a lap? It's been a while.

[Inferno180]

Even with this still going on, as people argue about whether or not sasuke was seriously going to strike through sakura in an effort for one strike on madara, the only thing that we know for sure, its not good, its not ideal, Sakura is questioning if Sasuke cares about her or even her own safety in the slightest. Naruto reacted as known and theres no issue there, Sakura knows Naruto cares about her but sasuke is a mystery to her. Obviously, she is calling into question some of the stuff from before like what Sai said. Along with the other events, this is just building something up for once Madara is taken care of. Even for all the defense SS fans could put up with right now, this isnt good, its a notion that something is wrong and well, she is questioning sasuke in regards to herself.

 

Even then,lets look at the idea of if sasuke was willing to strike into sakura to get to madara, this was thankfully adverted with a combination of sasuke seeing the clones while naruto leap in to save sakura, after Naruto leaps in to grab sakura and kick the clone while sasuke shifts his sword down in defense towards the other, take a look at his panel when he is flying back, notice how much of the ground was torn up from his lightning infused blade? All that torn up earth, thats a notion of how powerful a strike he was aiming with, this cut up stone and earth, if it had hit Sakura or Madara's clone, it could have been leathal towards either one. But as Sakura questions Sasuke, this means one thing is confirmed, Sakura is changing still in regards to Sasuke much like Naruto too, it proves we were right about 675 with the whole decreased/increased arguement, otherwise if she was still in love truely, she wouldnt need to question it. Now its just a matter of, how can it really increase when she is thinking how Sasuke doesn't even seem to care for her safety. Even then this all just flies back at the "sasuke isnt evil or insane and blind by hate right now like he was at the land of iron, so for all the excuses SS fans want to put on the land of iron, there is no reason sasuke himself couldn't have saved sakura I mean he has a limited teleportation power right now, pretty sure that works better than just fast speed. Sasuke himself could have even told Sakura to stay back. Yet this is the thing I find most hilarious, its not only for the fact sasuke apologized to Karin, its the fact that he works better with his own team taka rather than team 7, he has treated all taka members better than sakura, even if it was just for his initial use in facing itachi.

 

This is just the deal that gets me, I mean its character development, but its also the fact that sakura is changing, did people honestly expect her to have the same view of sasuke after all these years the story ran? It wasn't just going to stay the same or stop somewhere else. The idea is, well Sakura is confronting a harsh situation on herself, how does she truely feel about sasuke when she is now questioning how he doesnt even have concern for her safety? This is something she will find an answer too and otherwise, yes it will have events of concern towards naruto. Sakura is maturing but if people dont like this, well thats their problem. She cares for and has no problems with Naruto yet she still questions sasukes real motives and how he doesnt regard her. This will continue with other events and its going to be along these same lines, its not going to be all smiles and sunshine like may hope for. Really if Sakura is questioning sasukes disregard for her, then its otherwise already 100% confirmed sasuke isn't even going to give her a second thought or even think about her.

[Rozette]

Should I write a lap? It's been a while.

 

Yes! Write that LAP~ 

 

May I ask a question for you to include your thoughts on in it? A few chapters ago, Kakashi questioned Sasuke's current dream- what do you think it is?

Edited by Rozette, 18 May 2014 - 04:47 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
Yes! Write that LAP~ 
 
May I ask a question for you to include your thoughts on in it? A few chapters ago, Kakashi questioned Sasuke's current dream- what do you think it is?

What's his dream? Well I guess I got two things to write.

[ramenanmitsu]

It doesn't change anything for me, I always thought it was logic she was talking about herself and not Sasuke's care in general. Plus, it's better for us, since she's realizing he doesn't care about HER.

You know, this scene looks really out of place to me. Why is she realizing that NOW?

I agree with your interpretation. Just the scene looks misplaced.

[咲耶姫]

You know, this scene looks really out of place to me. Why is she realizing that NOW?

I agree with your interpretation. Just the scene looks misplaced.

I think the only logical answer to this question is that the author simply decided to put an end to pairing war now. So there is no logic to why she realizes it now and not before, it's just that Kishi is now slowly killing SS.

[luffyq1]

You know, this scene looks really out of place to me. Why is she realizing that NOW?

I agree with your interpretation. Just the scene looks misplaced.

It's like the Maxtrix where Sakura is Neo and she's finally walking up to reality.

[ramenanmitsu]

I think the only logical answer to this question is that the author simply decided to put an end to pairing war now. So there is no logic to why she realizes it now and not before, it's just that Kishi is now slowly killing SS.

  
Good point. I think you're right.

It's like the Maxtrix where Sakura is Neo and she's finally walking up to reality.

I've never seen Matrix. The only thing I know is that a guy with sunglasses are dodging bullets from an impossible angle.

[DattebayoXShannaro]

Translation of the page which caused so much drama this week:

 

 

サクラ「気にしないで…ナルと」

サクラ「(…サスケくんは…私の事…)」

 

Sakura: Don’t worry about me, Naruto

Sakura: (internally) Sasuke-kun…about me..

 

She trails off and it's left unsaid, but MS and MP are right in that she's asking if he cares about her. They left the "about me" out for some reason though. So it's basically, "Sasuke-kun, do you care about me", although the care part is implied rather than directly asked. The "koto" (事) also means that she isn't just implying her well being, but that she wants to know where she stands with him in general, since him not seeming to care for her injury makes her question what he thinks about her.

 

I'm glad Sakura's coming to the realization that Sasuke doesn't hold her in high esteem. I think this could lead to a final confirmation of what she means to Sasuke (nothing). Finally she might get the final push to move on from him.

 

 

 

I believe she already knows.  This is just a confirmation for her to know that Sasuke isn't the person she should hold feelings for, or as the injured nin put it, the "great person" she likes.  For as long as Kishimoto has continued Sakura's feelings for Sasuke, I sincerely hope he intends to resolve them once and for all before this arc's end.  Considering the attention he's been giving it in this war alone (chapters 540, 635, and now 675-676), I want to think that's the case.

 

I hope next chapter isn't filler. This one was more made to be a cliffhanger than anything else.

 

 

p.s. Thanks for the explanation DattebayoXShannaro about Sakura's build up.

 

I'm glad it was found to be informative.

[ramenanmitsu]

I believe she already knows.  This is just a confirmation for her to know that Sasuke isn't the person she should hold feelings for, or as the injured nin put it, the "great person" she likes.  For as long as Kishimoto has continued Sakura's feelings for Sasuke, I sincerely hope he intends to resolve them once and for all before this arc's end.  Considering the attention he's been giving it in this war alone (chapters 540, 635, and now 675-676), I want to think that's the case.
 

 
I'm glad it was found to be informative.

I always like your analysis including the Sakura one few pages back.

Unfortunately, I'm out of like's :(

[TouKen4Life3g]

Join me in the debate thread for one question I should ask to get the better understanding.

[DattebayoXShannaro]

I always like your analysis including the Sakura one few pages back.

Unfortunately, I'm out of like's :(

 

Thanks, ramenanmitsu.  I'm glad to know my analysis get positive feedback.

Edited by DattebayoXShannaro, 22 May 2014 - 08:17 PM.