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[lord287]

Naruto never denied that Sakura loves him. He denied her statement that she doesn't care about Sasuke anymore.

I believe Naruto does know that Sakura loves him to some extent. Also, your statistics are all off unless you're counting just western fans. Elsewhere, NS is dominant I'm pretty sure.

Naruto very well denied that sakura loves him because he clearly stated himself that she loves sasuke so much and if u don't remember u can view that chapter again! When Naruto said that he hated people who lied to themselves that time it looked like he was saying it only because he knew sakura still cares about sasuke but when sai appears I think kishi made it clear that Naruto believes that sakura loves sasuke and not him!

Naruto has no clue that sakura loves him or can love him in romantic way as I see things. Sakura generally don't do huge things for Naruto and when she tries to do she fails or when she do Naruto is unconscious! Moreover if u go by japanese fandom sasusaku is the most liked pairing I think it got about 125000 votes and narusaku got 75000 votes in japan!

Hey guys. I spent the last few days on another forum debating NaruSaku and NaruHina. She was I guess a SasuSaku shipper that said NaruSaku was dead and NaruHina is more likely. This is what they said:

1. Naruto likes Hinata judging by when he rescued her.
2. Naruto let go of Sakura because she loves Sasuke.
3. You can't compare NS to other people because their all different. Using parallels shows desparation
4. Kishimoto is fond of "opposties attract" couples like Minato/Kushina
5. 540 showed that Sakura only sees Sasuke as a love interest. She isn't ashamed because she accepts who she is and will always love Sasuke.
6. Naruto never giving up on Sakura is invalid because she isn't one of his important goals.
7. NH doesn't need development because this is a shonen and doesn't need romance.
8. MinaKushi is both a parallel to NaruHina too if you replace Kushina with Naruto and Hinata with Minato
9. When Kushina said "Find someone like me" she meant find someone who loves him like she does, not personality-wise.
10. Sakura is only capable of loving Sasuke. If she was truly conflicted between Naruto and Sasuke than Naruto would have also appeared in 540 in shadow if she really didn't know what she feels for him. The manga does not show her confused or conflicted.
11. Killing Sasuke was all for Sasuke, not Naruto.. He
12. Naruto knows Sakura doesn't love him understands her better than anyone.
13. When pictured his friends, Hinata was right up there with Sakura so his feelings changed. She was turned away because she's naturally shy
14. NS is negative on Sakura's character and goes against it( Me: )
15. Sakura filled up Sasuke's lonely existence which proves he did love her.
16. Sakura still wants to be with Sasuke romantically. 540 shows this.
17. Naruto's feelings aren't serious. It's just innocent flirting. Hinata and Sakura are more serious.
18. Hinata won't be rejected. It's clear to me Naruto will get with her. Naruto's feelings aren't exactly clear anyways.
19. NS is just speculation and wishful thinking

I mentioned the NS moments to her but this is what she said. 1st Hug: Sakura hugged Naruto because he's her dear friend and she doesn't wnat him hurt. The crowd that was blushing in the background doesn't mean anything. Feeding Scene: It's Sakura's duty to help others. She's a medic after all and the only reason Sakura had her fist clenched then was because she was annoyedd with Sai and Naruto for fooling around. It wasn't romantic Yamto's unfinished sentence: During Sakura's confession, Yamato was angry so he obviously didn't mean what you think he did. Confession: Kiba was angry and Lee was facepalming. Sakura views Naruto as a brother and she doesn't have romantic feelings for her. This person claims she's a Sakura fan and wants Sakura happy which is why she said Sakura should be with Sasuke since she loves him and not Naruto. According to her, NS has no romantic development while NH and SS do. Can someone please prove these assumptions wrong ESPECIALLY 9, 8, and 10? I don't believe any of this but I find 9, 8, and 10 really hard to go against

As I see things the underlined statements are most probably different way of thinking for different people just like we NS fans believe chapter 540 was anti-SS whereas most people(including neutral ones believe it was anti-NS).
The bold statements look very much true to me! Even if I don't want to beleive them by that I mean sakura loving sasuke only kishi is really throwing off many hints he gave for NS recently including yamato's expression, sai saying she loves sasuke, Naruto saying she loves sasuke etc.

Other than the bold or underlined statements I find her points useless! She is going on like many other SS/NH fans having no facts at all!

I don't get how many SS fans want only sakura to be happy ans say the second best thing that can happen to sasuke is getting together with sakura, when the person who really went through hell throughout his life was Naruto and he still wants to help everyone and anyone forgetting his own feelings! Sometimes I really think Naruto is not doing justice to himself becoming so good and selfless but then this is the thing that makes every Naruto fan love him! I really hate people who think only sakura, sasuke or hinata should get happiness(which are generally SS/NH fans) and forget that Naruto should be the one getting all the happiness he dreamed of when he was a little boy, which includes being with one one HE loves(but it doesn't mean that person should love him forcefully, she also should have pure feelings), becoming the hokage, becoming strongest ninja and everything else as well!

[ichaichamaster]

again let's look a 540. look at it. does sakura thinking about sasuke mean she loves him? no and please read my previous comment. about kishi shoving off narusaku ,wtf? how long haven't them been reunited? like more than 1 year. and besides why would kishi spend lots of time developing narusaku just to shove it off? i mean as fanfic writer i know for a fact that any good fanfic has to have rival parings, tension, time and a uncertainy feeling as to if the pairing will become true. this is just basic guys.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

again let's look a 540. look at it. does sakura thinking about sasuke mean she loves him? no and please read my previous comment. about kishi shoving off narusaku ,wtf? how long haven't them been reunited? like more than 1 year. and besides why would kishi spend lots of time developing narusaku just to shove it off? i mean as fanfic writer i know for a fact that any good fanfic has to have rival parings, tension, time and a uncertainy feeling as to if the pairing will become true. this is just basic guys.

i'm not saying he will shove it off, i never mentioned that sakura would stay with sasuke in the end i'm sayin that she loves him but i think it'll change i think she will choose naruto for obvious reasons and even with sasuke redeemed or not she will choose naruto

[ichaichamaster]

oh i see. then i agree with minus the part sakura still loves sasuke. i think she just cares for him as naruto does

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

540 it showed sasuke in that panel that why i cant say that she doesnt

but naruto weakened those feelings for him , showing that he is better ofc there are things that sakura does not like on naruto ofc

Edited by dovahkiin, 20 May 2012 - 02:13 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

[Don-kun]

Naruto very well denied that sakura loves him because he clearly stated himself that she loves sasuke so much and if u don't remember u can view that chapter again! When Naruto said that he hated people who lied to themselves that time it looked like he was saying it only because he knew sakura still cares about sasuke but when sai appears I think kishi made it clear that Naruto believes that sakura loves sasuke and not him!

Naruto has no clue that sakura loves him or can love him in romantic way as I see things. Sakura generally don't do huge things for Naruto and when she tries to do she fails or when she do Naruto is unconscious! Moreover if u go by japanese fandom sasusaku is the most liked pairing I think it got about 125000 votes and narusaku got 75000 votes in japan!

I agree with most of this but the voting gap is not that large, is 85,000 to 105,000 something like that and I'm sure that 85,000 is larger and the 105,000 is smaler seeing the recent developments.

As I see things the underlined statements are most probably different way of thinking for different people just like we NS fans believe chapter 540 was anti-SS whereas most people(including neutral ones believe it was anti-NS).
The bold statements look very much true to me! Even if I don't want to beleive them by that I mean sakura loving sasuke only kishi is really throwing off many hints he gave for NS recently including yamato's expression, sai saying she loves sasuke, Naruto saying she loves sasuke etc.

Other than the bold or underlined statements I find her points useless! She is going on like many other SS/NH fans having no facts at all!

I don't get how many SS fans want only sakura to be happy ans say the second best thing that can happen to sasuke is getting together with sakura, when the person who really went through hell throughout his life was Naruto and he still wants to help everyone and anyone forgetting his own feelings! Sometimes I really think Naruto is not doing justice to himself becoming so good and selfless but then this is the thing that makes every Naruto fan love him! I really hate people who think only sakura, sasuke or hinata should get happiness(which are generally SS/NH fans) and forget that Naruto should be the one getting all the happiness he dreamed of when he was a little boy, which includes being with one one HE loves(but it doesn't mean that person should love him forcefully, she also should have pure feelings), becoming the hokage, becoming strongest ninja and everything else as well!

The bolded part Is what I agree with the rest is only our tipical lord287 point of view so I chose to ignore it.

Is really hard to believe that here in america people chose Hinata and Sakura happiness, what about Naruto the one what is doing everything possible to bring peace to the Ninja System.
People condemn a lie with good intentions, but an murder attempted with malicious intentions is blessed and looked with favorably eye by many fans, people also have high hope and faith in the future of the relationship.
But what about all the development between NS and the non-development between NH & SS doesn't that count too?

540 it showed sasuke in that panel that why i cant say that she doesnt

but naruto weakened those feelings for him , showing that he is better ofc there are things that sakura does not like on naruto ofc

I don't belive in this at all, ShiKamaru and Sai weakened her feelings for Sasuke, but Sasuke is the main reason why her feelings for him are low.
Naruto in the other hand is the main reason why Sakura still believe in her love for this guy.
Naruto is always reassuring her that everything will go back to the way it was before, I will jump and say that Naruto is the one with the biggest wall of denial when it comes to Sasuke.

[Don-kun]

Sorry about the double post since no one wants to write anything, I have something I pick up in another forum and I want to share it here to get some opinions.

This is the best way I ever seen someone defend Sakura feelings for Naruto and her confession .


NAruHina
Nuetral fan I think this person is a SS fan, I'm not sure.



I like how Hannah acts as if Sakuras confession to Naruto wasn't a selfish move but rather a move for Naruto Right after Sakura went to kill Sasuke,Sai told the reasons why Sakura went to kill Sasuke.The reason was:Because she loves him too much that she can't see him suffer anymore(If you don't rembember here read the chapters again )it is also mentioned that she wanted to do it because of the promise but the main reason was because she couldn't see the man she loves sink deeper in the hole.

So you think I should read the manga?

Spoiler:

confession --Click here to view--

"I've come here because I want you to come back to the village with me! That's all!"

If it was all about Sasuke and she only thought about him, why did she try
this first?
To go back to to Konoha with Naruto?

Here is what Sai explains:
Spoiler:

Confession --Click here to view--

"She thought she'd lessen your burden.."

This was a real offer.
Then Sai says:

"But you still wanted to save Sasuke.."
Spoiler:

Confeesion --Click here to view--

Yamato:

"..that means she never meant to tell him in the first place.."

This shows she was there with only one thing in mind, to offer Naruto a relationship and drag him away from Sasuke as much as possible, while Konoha deals with him.
That also clearly shows she first thought about Naruto before Sasuke and that her "selfish deed" wasn't her plan, but desperation.

She wanted to lessen Naruto's burden one way or another. One was to love him, the other to kill Sasuke herself. Either way, Naruto getting trough this shielded from everything, was the plan.

Spoiler:

Confession --Click here to view--

Now here Sai explains she wants to kill him because she loves him. But, as obvious from the panels above, she was going to lead Naruto away, not deal with Sasuke. So why did she change her mind? (you know Sai kept talking)

Spoiler:

Confession --Click here to view--

"...and she also knows that might make you hate her. That's her way of making up for trying to saddle you with a lifelong burden."

Her love for Sasuke was a reason to "save" him from darkness by having him die. I never denied this.
But her love for Naruto was the reason she wanted to do it herself. So Naruto would hate her, not rest of rookie 9 or Kakashi. So Naruto would blame her.
When Sai says "making up", that isn't coming from a business obligation towards Naruto that is just her own, but her love for him. She cares about Naruto so much that she wants to rid him of the burden. It's her love for Naruto that is causing her to want to make this up to him. Sasuke is only a partial drive and it seems as if even secondary.



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Let's assume she did it just( or )mostly for Naruto.How the hell was she so sure that she would albe to kill Uchiha Sasuke (the name sounds already sounds scary)? She wasn't If she was, this would have made her situation even worse,because it would made her the most stupid ninja.Since Sakura is meant to have a sharp mind,the chances aren't very high that she was sure that she could kill Uchiha Sasuke with her lame skills .

Now you are claiming something you can't possibly back up by manga pages. How would you know Sakura didn't think she had a shot in killing Sasuke? She was going to use deception, not fight him head on. You are moving on with this presumption to, as I mentioned earlier, sway the biased conclusion where you want it.

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So Sakura who knew that Naruto loves her put herself in such a danger and did this because of Naruto.Doesn't make sense to me if I'm being honest.

Why not? Itachi who loved Sasuke killed his entire family and made Sasuke hate him.
So why does Sakura killing Sasuke and making Naruto hate her, not make sense to you?
Itachi made Sasuke become stronger.
Sakura would have made Naruto blame her, hate her and heal. It wasn't Naruto's failure, she did it. She would have taken his burden.
Spoiler:

Confession --Click here to view--

Sakura:

"I can't let you bare this burden Kakashi-sensei!!"

Quote:
Oh I know why it doesn't make any sense,it's because if Sasuke had really killed her (which wasn't unlikley at all )she would have made Naruto sad (actully this would have f**cked everything up) rather than happy

Yes Naruto would have been sad. One sad alive hokage...

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But hey let's assume Kishi forgot Sakuras character and made her stupid as kitten and Sakura really went to kill Sasuke with the confirmation that she could kill Sasuke for her friend Naruto,then why the hell didn't she kill him ? Now I rembember,she thought at Naru- wait the flashback were just about her and Sasuke and she ''actually'' went there because of Naruto.This doesn't make sense because if it was mostly for Naruto she would have killed him regardless of the past.

Sakura has a WEAK WILL.
Spoiler:

Confession --Click here to view--

Confession --Click here to view--

I mentioned it's her indecisiveness and a weaker character I dislike. The reason she couldn't do it was because she let her emotions for Sasuke get the best of her, when it mattered the most. That doesn't mean she did all of it for Sasuke, it doesn't mean she doesn't care about Naruto. Her hart and mind were with Naruto, but she was too weak to do it. Her love for Sasuke, took the front seat here, of course. But that doesn't make her motives ANY different, or her love for Naruto go away.
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Sakura going for killing Sasuke made her selfish and showed how much she is blinded by her love for him.

She is not blinded by her love for him. She is weakened by it.
If anything blinded her view of Sasuke it was this:
Naruto gives her hope, he wants to shoulder Sasuke's hatred, he wants to save him.
People who see things good, want the criminals killed, not retrieved and murdering their friends.

[Super Boom]

I haven't debated Naru/Saku in a while, but I do love numbered lists, so I'll take a stab at this.

1. Naruto likes Hinata judging by when he rescued her.
2. Naruto let go of Sakura because she loves Sasuke.
3. You can't compare NS to other people because their all different. Using parallels shows desparation
4. Kishimoto is fond of "opposties attract" couples like Minato/Kushina
5. 540 showed that Sakura only sees Sasuke as a love interest. She isn't ashamed because she accepts who she is and will always love Sasuke.
6. Naruto never giving up on Sakura is invalid because she isn't one of his important goals.
7. NH doesn't need development because this is a shonen and doesn't need romance.
8. MinaKushi is both a parallel to NaruHina too if you replace Kushina with Naruto and Hinata with Minato
9. When Kushina said "Find someone like me" she meant find someone who loves him like she does, not personality-wise.
10. Sakura is only capable of loving Sasuke. If she was truly conflicted between Naruto and Sasuke than Naruto would have also appeared in 540 in shadow if she really didn't know what she feels for him. The manga does not show her confused or conflicted.
11. Killing Sasuke was all for Sasuke, not Naruto.
12. Naruto knows Sakura doesn't love him. He understands her better than anyone.
13. When pictured his friends, Hinata was right up there with Sakura so his feelings changed. She was turned away because she's naturally shy
14. NS is negative on Sakura's character and goes against it( Me: )
15. Sakura filled up Sasuke's lonely existence which proves he did love her.
16. Sakura still wants to be with Sasuke romantically. 540 shows this.
17. Naruto's feelings aren't serious. It's just innocent flirting. Hinata and Sakura are more serious.
18. Hinata won't be rejected. It's clear to me Naruto will get with her. Naruto's feelings aren't exactly clear anyways.
19. NS is just speculation and wishful thinking

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1.) ...So Naruto likes everyone he rescues, right? Well, that's good news for N/S then! It's also good news for Sasu/Naru, Naru/Ino, and Naru/Kakashi fans.

Seriously though, this is a pretty bad point for this person to start their list on. Hopefully it gets better from here.

2.) This seems more like speculation. I think he's acknowledged that Sakura has feelings for Sasuke, but I haven't seen any strong evidence that he's 'let go' of her. And given how many times Kishi's driven the point home regarding Naruto's selfless feelings for Sakura, I'd like to think it'd warrant something a little heavier than the botched confession.

3.) Okay, that's fine, if that's truly this person's stance on parallels, even if they are insanely obvious. Let's just hope this person stays consistent with his/her stance.

4.) Wow. That was fast.

Anyways, 'Opposites Attract' is a pretty poor argument, given that you can basically apply it to any two characters in the series. Besides, Minato and Kushina never really struck me as being that different from each other to begin with. Both sought recognition, both voiced desire to become Hokage, and both seemed to have Naruto's "Never give up" mantra. Personally, it seems to me that Kishi prefers couples that complement each other, rather than ones that are simply supplementary.

5.) Yeah, and I also think of my love interests surrounded in flames and glaring at me demonically.

Honestly, though, this is just this is just person's assumption, so there's not really too much to argue.

6.) Not one of his important goals, no, but it wouldn't make it any less OOC for him to give up on her romantically.

7.) InuYasha says Hi.

8.) *Looks at person's 3rd point* Interesting...

9.) Assumption is an assumption. Either way, I think this individual needs to pick a stance on the whole Mina/Kushi parallel argument and stick with it.

10.) Honestly, I absolutely despise Would have/Should have arguments. By that logic, if Naruto has feelings for Hinata, he should have talked to her after the Pein Invasion. Or Kishi should have at least showed it. If Sasu/Saku was his OTP, he should have had Yamato say something about Sasuke during the Tenchi Bridge scene. Or had Sasuke give more than a "Thank you" after Sakura's confession. Or not had Sasuke try to kill her twice in close succession during the Iron Country Arc.

See how silly that argument is? Kishi has a reason for doing what he's doing, so this person just needs to chill and wait. Each chapter is meant to be a read as part of a whole, not as a seperate entity that instantly negates anything that happened prior. The fact that Sakura's feelings were brought up there, and showed in that light, tells me that something is going to happen to resolve this whole love triangle before the end of the manga. Which honestly shouldn't be that surprising to anyone.

11.) Wait, is this person serious? I'm pretty sure it was established in canon that she was doing it to alleviate the burden of the POAL. She didnt want to see Sasuke sink any lower, obviously, but the fact that she spoke with Naruto first makes it pretty clear where her priorities were.

12.) This is sort of the same point as #2, or at least my counter-point is the same.

13.) Okay, so Hinata's as important to Naruto as the girl you don't think he has feelings for? I'm not sure how this is a good point for this person's argument.

14.) And ending up with someone who's attempted to kill you three times isn't negative at all, right?

15.) If that assumption is true, I guess he must love Naruto as well, then. Uh oh, how's this gonna work out?

16.) I'm not sure how this is different than #5. This is starting to seem more like a rant than a serious argument.

17.) Look at the overall tone of the Naruto's reaction to the Sasu/Saku hug in the hospital, the POAL, and Naruto's conversation with Sai, and tell me again that his feelings aren't that serious. If you don't think it's Kishi's endgame, good for you, but it's hard to look at N/S in a non-serious light after his feelings have been portrayed as being this selfless over and over again.

18.) Maybe not clear in the sense that's it not being shoved down our throats constantly, but it's definitely obvious that his feelings for Sakura grew beyond a simple crush at same point. Out of three main het pairings, Naruto's are the only ones shown in the selfless light I've mentioned above. That seems pretty clear to me.

19.)

Edited by Boom...Winning, 20 May 2012 - 05:08 PM.

[Gravenimage]

again let's look a 540. look at it. does sakura thinking about sasuke mean she loves him? no and please read my previous comment. about kishi shoving off narusaku ,wtf? how long haven't them been reunited? like more than 1 year. and besides why would kishi spend lots of time developing narusaku just to shove it off? i mean as fanfic writer i know for a fact that any good fanfic has to have rival parings, tension, time and a uncertainy feeling as to if the pairing will become true. this is just basic guys.

Exactly thank you somebody understands me.

[kidNinja]

Well, does anybody want to beat Hinata's statement in 573 to death?

[kirabook]

Naruto very well denied that sakura loves him because he clearly stated himself that she loves sasuke so much and if u don't remember u can view that chapter again! When Naruto said that he hated people who lied to themselves that time it looked like he was saying it only because he knew sakura still cares about sasuke but when sai appears I think kishi made it clear that Naruto believes that sakura loves sasuke and not him!

Naruto has no clue that sakura loves him or can love him in romantic way as I see things. Sakura generally don't do huge things for Naruto and when she tries to do she fails or when she do Naruto is unconscious! Moreover if u go by japanese fandom sasusaku is the most liked pairing I think it got about 125000 votes and narusaku got 75000 votes in japan!

He did not deny Sakura's love. He denied her not caring for Sasuke. What did they debate the rest of the chapter? Giving up Sasuke and making Naruto come with her. Not "You don't really love me". It's also silly and naive to think that someone can't be in love with 2 people at once. I'm not completely sure she is in love with Sasuke to this day, but she was completely lying when she said she doesn't care about him anymore. Naruto could see that, and so could everyone else.

You can see that no one really got upset until Sakura started going off at the mouth about breaking the POAL and after the she didn't know what she was thinking, etc, etc.

You have no idea whether or not Naruto knows about Sakura's love other than your own assumptions. I've said before, Naruto is dense, but not that dense. After someone says they love him to his face, Sakura or Hinata, he'll know. But he also knows or believes that Sakura still has feelings for Sasuke. Whether she truly does or not, time will tell.

Lastly, I still think the "anti" stuff is stupid and I wish people would stop considered any development for other pairings that way. Development is development, good or bad. If the good relationship building outweighs the bad, then they are higher on the "could happen" list. If a pairing has any development at all, it's always rated higher than a pairing that hardly has none.

[Nostradamus]

Guys/Girls tomorrow or the day after tomorrow I'm going to release the ultimate rant of the ultimate rant of the ultimate rant of the ultimate rant of the ultimate rant. And it's going to be very very very very long. But I want to guys/girls to read it all. But again I'll warn you it's going to be very very long. It's going to be divided in parts of course.

[kidNinja]

Guys/Girls tomorrow or the day after tomorrow I'm going to release the ultimate rant of the ultimate rant of the ultimate rant of the ultimate rant of the ultimate rant. And it's going to be very very very very long. But I want to guys/girls to read it all. But again I'll warn you it's going to be very very long. It's going to be divided in parts of course.

Is it going to be on here or youtube?

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Thank you to all of you that replied to me post. I feel mostly the same. Most of this person's points didn't really shake me but some did. She's so stubborn though. I've tried and tried the past few days to counter her posts(mine were perfectly logical) but she hasn't once considered NS a possiblity. She even said this "Sorry. I've read this manga three times and do not see one hint that NaruSaku is two-sided. You're just putting sparkles and romance behind every Naru/Saku interaction that just aren't there." Funny how she says NaruSaku is just speculation when NH and SS are even worse for wear. I point-blank told her I do not understand how you can defend SS and like that couple since it's the worse. She said "I see SS in a different light. NS is negative to her character because Sakura can only love and stay loyal to one person." She also said she does not see one panel where Sakura is conflicted and that Sakura is sure she loves only Sasuke otherwsie Naruto would have showed up in 540.


I haven't replied to her quite yet but I'll show you her next response when she replies to me either today or tommorrow. So you can again disseact her words and see how stubborn she is. She says she just wants Sakura's happiness which is why she supports SasuSaku. Here is another ridicuolus line she said about Naruto's feelings for Sakura: "It's like on on hand, he wants her but on the other, he's not sure if he truly does."

[Namaenash]

Well, does anybody want to beat Hinata's statement in 573 to death?

We'll have to wait and see. It is still in the middle of an arc, so, anything could happen as the arc progresses.

I'm actually glad it came out now, in the middle of an arc. It reminds me of Hinata confession which ends with Sakura hugging Naruto. Another NH/SS moment which is closed by NS moment. If you have been following Kishi since the start, you know it is his style

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

More response she said to me about NaruSaku vs. NaruHina and SasuSaku

Me: Hinata only cares about Naruto. She's his only goal.

I wouldn't say that, she cares about many things in her life. She's just in love and wants to help Naruto, it shows

You said Naruto will surpass the previous, so when Jiraya isn't able to do something, maybe Naruto will. Clinging to other people's life to support NS is a thin line to walk on

Naruto feels good with Sakura, because he spent a lot of time in her company. When Hinata didn't have the chance. But their little moments prove Naruto likes her, and feels good around her as well.

The blood vow was not romantic but the 'promise of a life time' was ? Naruto also promised Sakura something because she was a nice person and he didn't want to see her in pain. He took her burdan, just like he did with Hinata's. I can't see any difference, besides the finding Sasuke was also his personal goal. I give Hinata as much credit as every other character, because I don't consider her worse and a side character like some people do.

It's only speculation. You don't know who Naruto feels about Hinata now, because the manga didn't mention it at all recently. Hinata is also not forcing herself on Naruto, where did you even get that? She was usually shy and never spoke to him. When she gathers the courage and wants to support him, she's suddenly forcing something? Everyone in love has a right to fight for it when they weren't given an answer and they still have hope. I don't know why you NS fans see her in such a bad light for loving Naruto.

If Sakura still loves Sasuke, I don't know how how lost any hope of being with him when he'll change. But let's say you're right. I'm not sure if redeemed Sasuke looks up to Sakura when he notices she still loves him after all this time, she'll turn him down. She was the one that filled his lonely existence, so I don't know who on this world will understand him better than Sakura.

Where does Sakura scold herself for loving Sasuke? It's a pure guess from your side, NS takes all these things from speculations. Give me manga prove.
In the ninja world almost all people are murderers and Sasuke will be treated differently than in the real world. Besides trying to kill members of Team 7, he didn't do much bad things. Just killed a few wanted criminals.
You explained she loves two people out of your own speculation, you haven't given me manga proof, so...how can I believe something like this?

If Sakura is not constantly thinking about Sasuke, why did she try so hard to bring him back? She trained so hard everyday to become a medical ninja and help Naruto with bring Sasuke back. When she fought Sasori, she was determined to get information out of Orochimaru. So all her bleeding was about getting information about Sasuke.
She went to kill him with the thought of saving him from darkness. She's thinking about him through the war, when she heals people. How is that different from Hinata? Maybe Sakura has more screentime than Hinata, that's where your illusion about Hinata thinking about Naruto more than Sakura does with Sasuke came from.

Maybe you're right, that Hinata wouldn't be jealous of the hug. But that still doesn't explain Sakura's behavior in front of her. That's why I don't think Sakura hugged Naruto romantically. It was out of worry and emotions. I doubt Sakura would try to hurt Hinata by hugging Naruto so it's platonic hug. NS pictures Sakura in a bad light, one of the reasons I dislike it.
If you're depending on the crowd so much, why weren't they happy when Sakura confessed? Lee was facepalming, Kiba was pissed, and Yamato(love cupid gone wrong) was willing to stop Sakura from what she was doing and Kakashi was looking suspicious. Crowds reaction cannot support a pairing.

You say Naruto makes Sakura happy while Sasuke doesn't? Love doesn't always bring happiness, it's also negative emotions. Sakura doesn't see Naruto as a brother ? What evidence? All I've seen is them acting like siblings.

I have my reasons for supporting SS. Sakura can be very happy with Sasuke if he'll be redeemed. Fighting next to him always made her happy when they were still together on Team 7.

Not the Sakura=Kushina theory again ! I say the same thing...NS depending on parallels makes it a really poor pairing.
Knowing Naruto, he was kidding about liking Sakura's forehead. He never 'admired' Sakura's forehead again, if he likes it so much like you say, we would probably hear him complimenting it many times.
Minato was serious about liking Kushina's hair.
You're trying to force MinaKushi to be a NS parallel, when there is no proof in the manga that Kushina punched Minato. They were a agreeable, loving couple. Again, speculations, it's all NS is feeding on

Naruto susposed to surpass his master in more serious matters, like becoming the child of prophecy and save the world. Romance is a private thing and doesn't have anything to do with surpassing someone. You can't surpass someone in love life. What for? That argument actually leads nowhere.

Sakura knows what she feels for both Naruto and Sasuke, it shows in chapter 540. She isn't confused. Rest is speculation and NS's dream. I don't see the most developed feelings of Sakura and Hinata to be pushed back and turned down in the end. But that's my opinion, given how developed they are.

Anyone else want to stab at this?

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 21 May 2012 - 02:12 AM.

[Gravenimage]

Only thing I can say is that person is in complete denial and envious. Denial because he knows that everything he has just said is BS and filled with envy because he wished that NH and SS had all the development NS has been given since the beginning in part 1.

[Dragunov]

More response she said to me about NaruSaku vs. NaruHina and SasuSaku

Me: Hinata only cares about Naruto. She's his only goal.




























Anyone else want to stab at this?

His arguments are crap. I dont even have time to respond.

[FoolishYoungling]

Only thing I can say is that person is in complete denial and envious. Denial because he knows that everything he has just said is BS and filled with envy because he wished that NH and SS had all the development NS has been given since the beginning in part 1.

truth hurts