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#8861 StriderC

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:03 AM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Jan 21 2013, 02:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just had to point that out. biggrin.gif

It felt kind of weird going from an anime series loaded with filler to an anime series that followed the canon to a T. LOL. I recommend you read the manga. I used to read it at the library all of the time when I was in high school. It was awesome~


I may have to give it a look. I've seen snippets of the manga and I must say that the art isn't so bad. I liked the anime a lot because of the art.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:17 AM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Jan 21 2013, 02:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I may have to give it a look. I've seen snippets of the manga and I must say that the art isn't so bad. I liked the anime a lot because of the art.

The art gets better as it goes along, though I don't remember it being all that bad at the beginning. I remember it looking very... elegant? Traditional? I don't know how to describe it. It's just really nice to look at. happy.gif

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:16 PM

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The art gets better as it goes along, though I don't remember it being all that bad at the beginning. I remember it looking very... elegant? Traditional? I don't know how to describe it. It's just really nice to look at. happy.gif


Inuyasha was totally what got me into anime in the first place. Like my first love LOL.

Ironic thing is I lost almost all interest in the series when I got introduced to Naruto tongue.gif. Like from my POV...after a while I was quite tired of the same old love triangles (KagInuKik). Just my opinion, but after a while, I felt that the characters were too...static, in the sense that they didn't really develop or change much. Like is Kagome still 15 after all this time???? (In comparison to Naruto, which I then had started watching.) Sadly, I got kind of bored how everything was just linked to Naraku who was just evil...for the sake of it. It got too repetitive! (I really really loved the concept in the beginning).

I'd wished Inuyasha explored more stuff like his parents (a mortal woman and a demon lord = perfect star-crossed love story), what happened to make the demons all disappear in the modern era, whether Kagome might create some sort of paradox etc etc!

Sorry, no offense intended and I don't mean this to be directed at those of you who loved it! I did too...but I guess what I liked just changed!

Naruto has its ups and downs but one thing I give props to Kishi for is expanding and making use of his universe and trying to show how characters change.

Edited by fireandice, 21 January 2013 - 12:17 PM.


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:08 PM

QUOTE (fireandice @ Jan 21 2013, 06:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Inuyasha was totally what got me into anime in the first place. Like my first love LOL.

Ironic thing is I lost almost all interest in the series when I got introduced to Naruto tongue.gif. Like from my POV...after a while I was quite tired of the same old love triangles (KagInuKik). Just my opinion, but after a while, I felt that the characters were too...static, in the sense that they didn't really develop or change much. Like is Kagome still 15 after all this time???? (In comparison to Naruto, which I then had started watching.) Sadly, I got kind of bored how everything was just linked to Naraku who was just evil...for the sake of it. It got too repetitive! (I really really loved the concept in the beginning).

I'd wished Inuyasha explored more stuff like his parents (a mortal woman and a demon lord = perfect star-crossed love story), what happened to make the demons all disappear in the modern era, whether Kagome might create some sort of paradox etc etc!

Sorry, no offense intended and I don't mean this to be directed at those of you who loved it! I did too...but I guess what I liked just changed!

Naruto has its ups and downs but one thing I give props to Kishi for is expanding and making use of his universe and trying to show how characters change.

Don't worry! You're not hurting anyone's feelings. I completely understand what you mean. smile.gif

The very first series that I was crazy over was Sailor Moon. I started watching the anime when I was five and I've been in love with it ever since. Of course, that series ended a while ago, and eventually my love for it faded. I still have a special place in my heart for it, but I'm not nearly as obsessed with it as I used to be. tongue.gif

From that point on, I was just jumping from manga to manga for entertainment. Inuyasha was a really great series as well as Ranma 1/2, but there wasn't anything about either that captured my attention the same way that Sailor Moon did. Then my friend showed me an AMV of Naruto's fight with Sasuke at the Valley of the End. I was curious, so I started looking up the anime episodes (at the time, I didn't know you could read the manga chapters online), and I fell in love all over again. wub.gif

I didn't start reading the manga until Hinata's confession was out. I saw a bunch of people fighting over it on an AMV and asked what they were talking about, because I had absolutely no idea. sweatdrop.gif Of course, I was really unhappy to see Hinata confessing in the canon (also the first time I learned the difference between canon and filler), but I started reading from the beginning and the rest is history. love.gif

I used to feel the same way about Bleach, but the quality of that manga has been dropping since the Soul Society arc. It has far too many characters to keep track of and became obnoxiously repetitive like Inuyasha was, but Kubo made it unbearable to read: Ichigo gets beaten by an enemy, he meets a new group of people and trains with them, he gets hax powers and defeats the enemy, repeat. I'm so tired of that. I was officially done when it was hinted that his mom was a Quincy. dry.gif

Edited by Slextrem, 21 January 2013 - 05:10 PM.


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:04 PM

I started by watching the anime on DVD. But even though they threw Sakura's character out of proportion in the anime I still thought she would go well with Naruto. smile.gif

Edited by Phantom_999, 23 January 2013 - 10:21 PM.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:08 PM

QUOTE (Phantom_999 @ Jan 21 2013, 10:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I started by watching the anime on DVD. But even thought they threw Sakura's character out of proportion in the anime I still thought she would go well with Naruto. smile.gif


That was one of the many problems with Pierot. They increased Sakura's tsundere character hitting Naruto way more times than she did in the manga. And although that is comic relief and the Japanese understand that well enough, it is not that understandable in the west. Western fans don't understand the cliche of" heroine hitting the male protagonist to correct him for a mistake he made, or for comic purposes or even as a sign of hidden affection they don't even know what a tsundere is. Because of that those westerns fans hated Sakura quite a lot, but then again all heroines in shounen manga will always hit the male protagonist for comic relief purposes.

Edited by Gravenimage, 21 January 2013 - 06:09 PM.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:29 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jan 21 2013, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That was one of the many problems with Pierot. They increased Sakura's tsundere character hitting Naruto way more times than she did in the manga. And although that is comic relief and the Japanese understand that well enough, it is not that understandable in the west. Western fans don't understand the cliche of" heroine hitting the male protagonist to correct him for a mistake he made, or for comic purposes or even as a sign of hidden affection they don't even know what a tsundere is. Because of that those westerns fans hated Sakura quite a lot, but then again all heroines in shounen manga will always hit the male protagonist for comic relief purposes.

True. It seems that the fans who read only Naruto or the new ones are the majority that despise Sakura.
I think if they have read other manga than the rate of the despise for Sakura will be lower.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:33 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jan 21 2013, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That was one of the many problems with Pierot. They increased Sakura's tsundere character hitting Naruto way more times than she did in the manga. And although that is comic relief and the Japanese understand that well enough, it is not that understandable in the west. Western fans don't understand the cliche of" heroine hitting the male protagonist to correct him for a mistake he made, or for comic purposes or even as a sign of hidden affection they don't even know what a tsundere is. Because of that those westerns fans hated Sakura quite a lot, but then again all heroines in shounen manga will always hit the male protagonist for comic relief purposes.

Lack of creativity. laugh.gif There are more comedic aspects than violence. They just increase the comic relief to the point where we get tired of it. If seen it in several anime. Another example, the character Usopp from One Piece is known as a scaredy-cat, but he is not that much of a pussy in the manga. It's annoying when an animation team decides to discrace a character by overdoing the humour. It's like the the animators are just making a fool out of the characters.

Edited by sushi., 21 January 2013 - 06:33 PM.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:42 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 21 2013, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lack of creativity. laugh.gif There are more comedic aspects than violence. They just increase the comic relief to the point where we get tired of it. If seen it in several anime. Another example, the character Usopp from One Piece is known as a scaredy-cat, but he is not that much of a pussy in the manga. It's annoying when an animation team decides to discrace a character by overdoing the humour. It's like the the animators are just making a fool out of the characters.

There's also something else. That the anime is more affecting than the manga. A person who watches the anime with the motion and all that, the impact of an action will be stronger than the manga.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:15 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jan 21 2013, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That was one of the many problems with Pierot. They increased Sakura's tsundere character hitting Naruto way more times than she did in the manga. And although that is comic relief and the Japanese understand that well enough, it is not that understandable in the west. Western fans don't understand the cliche of" heroine hitting the male protagonist to correct him for a mistake he made, or for comic purposes or even as a sign of hidden affection they don't even know what a tsundere is. Because of that those westerns fans hated Sakura quite a lot, but then again all heroines in shounen manga will always hit the male protagonist for comic relief purposes.

This is basically the most fundamental misconception that the people that hate NaruSaku and Sakura as a character have. If only they knew.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:14 PM

just a question for you, guys... They supposed that the color cover was about team 7.... If so, shouldn't be there also Kakashi? unsure.gif

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:41 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Jan 21 2013, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
just a question for you, guys... They supposed that the color cover was about team 7.... If so, shouldn't be there also Kakashi? unsure.gif

Much like Naruto himself, the main important one are those 3. Ever noticed that these 2 (Naruto excluded) are the one that brought up everytime for Naruto since they are the only ones that are not complete. Anime and manga. I know I can't explain well, but these three are what Kishi carefully developed and for Naruto, these two are the most important ones, explained by Yamato.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:30 AM

Well, there was that picture of Naruto pretending to pop Kurama's big snot bubble and I considered that a "team 7" or "team Kakashi" cover even though Sasuke was nowhere in sight.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:38 AM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Jan 22 2013, 01:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, there was that picture of Naruto pretending to pop Kurama's big snot bubble and I considered that a "team 7" or "team Kakashi" cover even though Sasuke was nowhere in sight.


Yeah, there was even Sai who was paiting the scene... That was supposed to be a team 7 cover...

Ma this... doesn't sounds to me as a team7 cover... It sounds just like a cover about the new sannin.... Naruto, Sakura and Sasuke.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:47 AM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Jan 22 2013, 12:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, there was even Sai who was paiting the scene... That was supposed to be a team 7 cover...

Ma this... doesn't sounds to me as a team7 cover... It sounds just like a cover about the new sannin.... Naruto, Sakura and Sasuke.


I really hope this happens, really!

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:51 AM

One thing for sure is that when it comes to Team 7 cover, it's always Naruto and Sakura. Then you fill in with either Yamato, Sai, Kakashi, and/or Sasuke. That's usually the case.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:54 AM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Jan 22 2013, 12:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, there was even Sai who was paiting the scene... That was supposed to be a team 7 cover...

Ma this... doesn't sounds to me as a team7 cover... It sounds just like a cover about the new sannin.... Naruto, Sakura and Sasuke.


Yeah, plus the focus on Naruto and Sakura, whereas Sasuke is the scroll...? As someone mentioned on this thread, like the 'evil emperor'! tongue.gif

That's why I'm quite interested in what Kishi has planned for Sasuke...I mean after Itachi talked to him he seemed a bit saner than the Kage summit arc where he was even TALKING to himself and an imaginary Itachi. Before this, I'd have thought Sasuke's redemption would come before any final battle with Madara, Obito and the Juubi. But it doesn't seem to be playing out this way...? Cos the cover seems to suggest Naruto and Sakura having to fight Sasuke.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:07 AM

Guys, I might be thinking too much into it... HOWEVER, remember that red thread of fate thing? Sure, we all do...
Now, ever since the new chapter came out, I keep thinking about one thing.
Back in the days, there was this cover with Sakura...



See those little things over her fan?

Now, guess what?

They somehow appear in 616





And only Sakura and Naruto's costumes have it. And they're red. Could it mean something? Am I reading too much into it? Is it a coincidence? Is it not?
What do you guys think?

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:13 AM

Good thoughts. Sometimes, I feel that Kishi is purposely connecting them but that's just me. Anyway, it could be coincidence. Maybe. Where did you get those pics without background and all. Such a worthy of NS art moment. happy.gif

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:18 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Jan 22 2013, 01:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good thoughts. Sometimes, I feel that Kishi is purposely connecting them but that's just me. Anyway, it could be coincidence. Maybe. Where did you get those pics without background and all. Such a worthy of NS art moment. happy.gif


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I even posted it on my Tumblr biggrin.gif
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