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#8821 Slextrem

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 07:27 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Jan 20 2013, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LOL This is what I see happening or something similar.

After things are taken care of with the enemy, Sakura sort of stands in the distance and smiles at Naruto while he's surrounded and everyone is cheering/happy that the war is over.

Sakura: ... You did it Naruto. That boy that wanted so much to be acknowledged is finally being acknowledged by everyone. You're a hero... My hero even. I can't believe... I've actually fallen in love with you.

*Sakura sheds a tear and closes her eyes* I'm not gonna push my feelings on you again.

B-but if she realizes she loves him, I want her to tell him~ eager.gif

LOL. That is a really awesome prediction though. I can actually see something like that happening. Sakura is so selfless, she probably would think something like that, especially considering how her last confession went... Of course, I'm anxious as heck for NaruSaku, so I want her to tell him now. Having to wait for Naruto to confess, especially knowing that Sakura returns his feelings, would be agony~ arg.gif

Edited by Slextrem, 20 January 2013 - 07:28 PM.


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 07:50 PM

It's like I said, Sakura can fall in love with Naruto without making it canon. It's only canon when both agree to be together. Look at FMA, Winry fell in love with Ed, but they're not together because it was saved for the ending. Sakura can do the same in this case. It's Kishi call on this one. One thing for sure is that Naruto will earn a high point on Sakura if he ends the battle in a victory.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 08:35 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 20 2013, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Btw guys, a really interesting thing...




I'm really like SasuKarin even if I don't ship them that much, Karin is herself around Sasuke, she calls him weak or idiot and he doesn't care! he let her say what she wants ... I never thought a girl could act like that around Sasuke so first I was surprised but then I started to like the idea of them end up together.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 08:45 PM

Karin said "I just wanted to see that face once more". Perhaps it means that she wants him to smile like he did when they met. She misses the one he once was. Sasuke needs someone like her, not someone who is ashamed of having feelings for him.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 08:48 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 20 2013, 05:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Karin said "I just wanted to see that face once more". Perhaps it means that she wants him to smile like he did when they met. She misses the one he once was. Sasuke needs someone like her, not someone who is ashamed of having feelings for him.

Sasuke needs no one, i doubt that this guy will be paired, i dont care but SK is abusive as SS.

And i think that Karin is in Konoha i remember when she said that she wanted to be happy like the villagers and Naruto.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 20 January 2013 - 08:50 PM.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 08:50 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Jan 20 2013, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sasuke needs no one, i doubt that this guy will be paired, i dont care but SK is abusive as SS.

Everybody needs someone. Thing is, he does not want someone, or anybody.

Edited by sushi., 20 January 2013 - 08:50 PM.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 08:50 PM

Everyone got their opinions. Me, I'm stuck in between. I just want to see the first interaction with each other. If she's in Konoha still, then looks like we will soon see that.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 08:53 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 20 2013, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Everybody needs someone. Thing is, he does not want someone, or anybody.

He did worse, Karin healed Sasuke and was at his side without asking nothing in return, she had no place to go and remain with him because of her bond, then he betray her.
Sasuke did a lot of evil stuff to a lot of people, to karin, to Naruto, to Sakura, a lot of people.
Even if he needs a girl he does not deserve it, the only pairing that is not abusive for Sasuke is with Ino which i dont like either.

Sasuke does not need anyone there's no girl that can match/complete his personality.

For me i think kishi will make only one pairing which is NS and that's enough.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 20 January 2013 - 08:54 PM.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 08:53 PM

I'm actually becoming somewhat of an SK shipper.

Honestly, I can get over the sacrifice of her life for one simple reason; Sasuke was never mean to her, unlike how he was to Sakura. He seemed to genuinely care about her (before he slipped off the deep end).

Although trying to justify it is wrong and silly, Sasuke didn't try to kill Karin; he tried to kill Danzo, and Karin was in the way. Harsh, I know, but that's the difference between SK and SS. Sasuke tried to kill Sakura twice, with no ulterior motives other than wanting her dead.

How people can prefer SS over any ship is beyond me.


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 08:56 PM

QUOTE (swagosaurus @ Jan 20 2013, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm actually becoming somewhat of an SK shipper.

Honestly, I can get over the sacrifice of her life for one simple reason; Sasuke was never mean to her, unlike how he was to Sakura. He seemed to genuinely care about her (before he slipped off the deep end).

Although trying to justify it is wrong and silly, Sasuke didn't try to kill Karin; he tried to kill Danzo, and Karin was in the way. Harsh, I know, but that's the difference between SK and SS. Sasuke tried to kill Sakura twice, with no ulterior motives other than wanting her dead.

How people can prefer SS over any ship is beyond me.

Does not change the fact because Danzou grab her because she thought Sasuke cared about her, and he said that she was a burden, she did a lot of things for him and got betrayed, if he had any signs of "good" he would try to figure a way out of killing danzou without trying to kill her.
A guy that has a sharingan and a lot of a$$pull jutsus suddenly had any jutsu to do the right thing.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 20 January 2013 - 08:57 PM.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:06 PM

Well, I do believe Kishi will have one canon pairing. Everything else is up for interpretation. You can simply say, "At least they're close friends." Even in FMA did this like did everyone besides Ed and Winry got married with kids and such. No, but you can say that others at least stood together. Kishi can do this and to be honest, it is likely. Anyway as for SK, well they have to start somewhere again to get back on. Doesn't have to be romance level, but they sure need to get along in order Team Taka to live on.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 20 January 2013 - 09:23 PM.


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:11 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Jan 20 2013, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I do believe Kishi will have one canon pairing. Everything is up for interpretation. You can simply say, "At least they're close friends." Even in FMA did this like did everyone besides Ed and Winry got married with kids and such. No, but you can say that others at least stood together. Kishi can do this and to be honest, it is likely. Anyway as for SK, well they have to start somewhere again to get back on. Doesn't have to be romance level, but they sure need to get along in order Team Taka to live on.

When you said "at least they are close friends", where you talking about SK or NS? Because for NS i cant say that.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:20 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Jan 20 2013, 04:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When you said "at least they are close friends", where you talking about SK or NS? Because for NS i cant say that.

Side characters and a main character with a side character. Case in point, close friends would be SK and canon would be NS.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 20 January 2013 - 09:21 PM.


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:32 PM

I kinda like the SK, but I'm going to wait till they reunite and see where things go with them.

If they still on the same level, I don't know what I'll think. But, if things were good between them more than before like Sasuke showing more of some care and other stuff and same goes for Karin, well, I'll take it in consideration.
Though, I don't think there will be future between them but, we'll see what Kishi has for this one. Friends or something else.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:36 PM

Dunno about you guys, but after reading Kanae's manifesto, I totally loved it. I mean, I was shipping them a bit but after I read that, I saw the potential in them to be the second cannon pair.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:45 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Jan 20 2013, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I kinda like the SK, but I'm going to wait till they reunite and see where things go with them.

If they still on the same level, I don't know what I'll think. But, if things were good between them more than before like Sasuke showing more of some care and other stuff and same goes for Karin, well, I'll take it in consideration.
Though, I don't think there will be future between them but, we'll see what Kishi has for this one. Friends or something else.

Like I said, close friends is an option.

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 20 2013, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dunno about you guys, but after reading Kanae's manifesto, I totally loved it. I mean, I was shipping them a bit but after I read that, I saw the potential in them to be the second cannon pair.

I feel the same. Right now, I'm just waiting for the interaction to see where.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:58 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 20 2013, 06:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dunno about you guys, but after reading Kanae's manifesto, I totally loved it. I mean, I was shipping them a bit but after I read that, I saw the potential in them to be the second cannon pair.

I like SasuKarin because it's a nice contrast to NaruSaku.

Sakura is part of Naruto's journey of light and Karin is part of Sasuke's journey of darkness. Sakura has been alongside Naruto as he became a hero and Karin has been alongside Sasuke as he became a villain. NaruSaku is the light couple and SasuKarin is the dark couple.

Even the Summit arc portrayed conflict in each couple. First you have Naruto rejecting Sakura's love and then you have Sasuke betraying Karin's trust.

Look at the ways that Naruto and Sasuke mirror each other:

Pre-stroy:
- Sasuke suffered from family loss / Naruto suffered from loneliness
- Sasuke wants revenge / Naruto wants acknowledgment

Zabuza arc:
- Sasuke awakens the sharingan / Naruro awakens the kyuubi

Chunin exams and Search for Tsunade:
- Sasuke learns lion combo / Naruto learns Naruto rendan (very similar taijutsu moves)
- Sasuke improves his taijutsu / Naruto learns summons and better kyuubi control
- Sasuke learns chidori / Naruto learns rasengan

Sasuke Retrieval:
- Sasuke achieves Curse Seal form / Naruto achieves One-tail kyuubi form

In Part 2 they both improve, but Sasuke has an initial edge:
- Sasuke is generally more proficient / Naruto learns rasenshuriken

Itachi / Pain arc:
- Sasuke fights Itachi / Naruto fights Pain (both with feelings of revenge)
- Sasuke obtains mangekyo sharingan / Naruto obtains sage mode
- Sasuke paves his road of revenge / Naruto paves his road of peace

In the beginning they both share the same path as Team 7, but then form part 2 onwards:
- Sasuke has his team with Karin, Suigetsu and Juugo / Naruto has his team with Sakura, Sai and Kakashi
- Sasuke now has Orochimaru / Naruto maybe will retake Yamato

Kage Summit and Turtle Island:
- Sasuke develops Susanoo / Naruto develops kyuubi cloak
- Sasuke betrays Karin's trust / Naruto refuses Sakura's confession
- Sasuke is said to have changed by Sakura / Naruto is said to be bright by Karin

Ninja War:
- Sasuke unleashes Eternal MS / Naruto unleashes full kyuubi mode
- Sasuke fights Kabuto / Naruto fights Tobi
- Sasuke looks for answers / Naruto's resolve is challenged by Obito

Pairings:
- Sasuke descent towards darkness is witnessed by Karin / Naruto's ascension to the light is witnessed by Sakura
- Sasuke is loved by Sakura / Naruto is loved by Hinata (both girls uninvolved in the journey of said love)

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:01 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Jan 20 2013, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I like SasuKarin because it's a nice contrast to NaruSaku.

Sakura is part of Naruto's journey of light and Karin is part of Sasuke's journey of darkness. Sakura has been alongside Naruto as he became a hero and Karin has been alongside Sasuke as he became a villain. NaruSaku is the light couple and SasuKarin is the dark couple.

Even the Summit arc portrayed conflict in each couple. First you have Naruto rejecting Sakura's love and then you have Sasuke betraying Karin's trust.

Look at the ways that Naruto and Sasuke mirror each other:

Pre-stroy:
- Sasuke suffered from family loss / Naruto suffered from loneliness
- Sasuke wants revenge / Naruto wants acknowledgment

Zabuza arc:
- Sasuke awakens the sharingan / Naruro awakens the kyuubi

Chunin exams and Search for Tsunade:
- Sasuke learns lion combo / Naruto learns Naruto rendan (very similar taijutsu moves)
- Sasuke improves his taijutsu / Naruto learns summons and better kyuubi control
- Sasuke learns chidori / Naruto learns rasengan

Sasuke Retrieval:
- Sasuke achieves Curse Seal form / Naruto achieves One-tail kyuubi form

In Part 2 they both improve, but Sasuke has an initial edge:
- Sasuke is generally more proficient / Naruto learns rasenshuriken

Itachi / Pain arc:
- Sasuke fights Itachi / Naruto fights Pain (both with feelings of revenge)
- Sasuke obtains mangekyo sharingan / Naruto obtains sage mode
- Sasuke paves his road of revenge / Naruto paves his road of peace

In the beginning they both share the same path as Team 7, but then form part 2 onwards:
- Sasuke has his team with Karin, Suigetsu and Juugo / Naruto has his team with Sakura, Sai and Kakashi
- Sasuke now has Orochimaru / Naruto maybe will retake Yamato

Kage Summit and Turtle Island:
- Sasuke develops Susanoo / Naruto develops kyuubi cloak
- Sasuke betrays Karin's trust / Naruto refuses Sakura's confession
- Sasuke is said to have changed by Sakura / Naruto is said to be bright by Karin

Ninja War:
- Sasuke unleashes Eternal MS / Naruto unleashes full kyuubi mode
- Sasuke fights Kabuto / Naruto fights Tobi
- Sasuke looks for answers / Naruto's resolve is challenged by Obito

Pairings:
- Sasuke descent towards darkness is witnessed by Karin / Naruto's ascension to the light is witnessed by Sakura
- Sasuke is loved by Sakura / Naruto is loved by Hinata (both girls uninvolved in the journey of said love)


I have to put this on Tumblr.
You, sir, are a genius!
Of course I've noticed this by myself, but I was too lazy to type them, lol. xd
Btw, you were the one who said that while Sakura has witnessed Naruto's jurney to light, Karin has witnessed Sasuke's to darkness, or something like this, right?
I know I put that on Tumblr as well, but I was so excited by this quote that I even forgot to give credits, sorry! ^.^

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:14 PM

@redragon88: That got to be one of the best post ever...of all time.

It's no wonder media still placing ads about Sasuke with his team, even after they're split apart. Even in games, they still place him there. You really pointed out what I have been thinking this whole time. I guess that's why I always said that Karin is Sasuke's "I'll be waiting for your return" person and Sakura for Naruto. Not saying they won't take action but they will wait for the final battle to end. Anyway, thank you so much.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:32 PM

And given that Kishimoto chose to insert such a random flashback of Karin being saved by Sasuke when they were younger I see it as his way of establishing Karin's relationship with Sasuke as something more significant than when you compared to Suigetsu and Juugo.

Karin's relationship with Sasuke seems more significant than what people actually think.




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