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#8781 Tsubaki

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 01:51 AM

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 02:06 AM

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Jan 20 2013, 08:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NH fans love the underdog story and therefore support Hinata.

They ignore the fact Naruto is also an underdog and use this double-edged sword.

Therefore they only care about Hinata's feelings.


and sakura too is underdog, she is not from famous clan, doesn't has kekkei genkai, doesn't has secret jutsu either. even shikamaru in part one call her useless with no speciality.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 02:18 AM

QUOTE (rocci @ Jan 19 2013, 09:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
and sakura too is underdog, she is not from famous clan, doesn't has kekkei genkai, doesn't has secret jutsu either. even shikamaru in part one call her useless with no speciality.


Well from what little we have to go on with her fighting skills back then she seemed to be pretty good with using basic ninja tools and clone feints; moreso than alot of the other rookies actually to a point where she was able to take Zaku and Ino by surprise when she was fighting them. She wasn't the best fighter by any means but I think people don't give her enough credit when she's determined. Plus she's naturally a genjutsu type so that had to have an impact on her fighting ability seeing as how she was having to rely primarily on taijutsu to fight.

Curse Kishi for not developing her abilities further. I would have liked to see Sakura go to Kurenai for genjutsu training so that aspect of her character would be appropriately explored.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 02:28 AM

QUOTE (Atheck @ Jan 20 2013, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well from what little we have to go on with her fighting skills back then she seemed to be pretty good with using basic ninja tools and clone feints; moreso than alot of the other rookies actually to a point where she was able to take Zaku and Ino by surprise when she was fighting them. She wasn't the best fighter by any means but I think people don't give her enough credit when she's determined. Plus she's naturally a genjutsu type so that had to have an impact on her fighting ability seeing as how she was having to rely primarily on taijutsu to fight.

Curse Kishi for not developing her abilities further. I would have liked to see Sakura go to Kurenai for genjutsu training so that aspect of her character would be appropriately explored.


Aah genjutsu. now i know why sakura don't get it. if sakura can use genjutsu in part two, her fight with sasori is more easy. she can oneshot hidan. look the only genjutsu user who use it in this manga belong to uchiha.

because genjutsu is so strong that kurenai can kill/hurt kisame if not for itachi intervention, and that's why she swap to the side for her pregnancy because if not, hidan and kakuzu will be in danger.

genjutsu is overpower, and that's why only uchiha permited to use that.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 02:28 AM

QUOTE (Enkai @ Jan 19 2013, 07:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm I would say Sakura could take Hinata due to her intelligence, however since they haven't shown any of her genjutsu techniques assuming she has some since the databook rated her genjutsu as 3.5 which was higher than her ninjutsu, in close combat its very likely Hinata would defeat Sakura but if Sakura could catch Hinata in a genjutsu for long enough she could probably beat Hinata. Since the Pein arc Hinata has shown the twin lion fists and the air palms so those could prove deadly against Sakura if she were able to get close enough.


Hmm, I don't think genjutsu is needed. I think Sakura could win. As a medic-nin, she was specifically trained by Tsunade to not get hit. And you factor in the chakra-enhanced strength, where one hit can immobilize you, I don't know, I think Sakura would have a chance. Hinata isn't exactly a ninja know for much defense. Eh, I'm just going to ask this:

If you were to bet on who would win, would you bet on a ninja with chakra-enhanced strength that could end you with literally one hit, who is trained to evade attacks, who can heal themself with medical ninjutsu mid-combat, and who knows the human anatomy (and possibly the location of the chakra paths, I would assume a medic-nin would know this) OR, would you bet on the ninja that can see the chakra in your body and possibly end up cutting off your chakra and damaging your vital organs, with enough hits?

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 03:25 AM

Hands down, I'd place my bets on Sakura mainly because of what we've seen of her.

1. She's an analytical fighter. Even in Part 1, she found a way to do damage. Her fight against the Sound Nin. She used basic skills and was able to land a punch on an enemy who seemed to be a lot stronger than her.

- Her fight with Sasori. She studied his movements, managed to take down the Kazekage puppet on her own, and then some.

2. She's a medical ninja so while she is very good at fighting for a medical nin, she's also great at dodging. I love how people call her "slow" but what is this being based from exactly? She's fast enough to easily turn the tables against Zetsu, and then she was able to prevent Sasori from making swiss cheese out of Chiyo. Even in Part 1, given her low stamina and such, she was able to tie with Ino.

3. Even though Sakura doesn't have a nindo, she NEVER gives up easily, and she's reckless. She also has quite the endurance as well and that'd be quite useful in any battle.

4. Super KO Strength. Took out a summon with ease, and was able to subdue Zetsu with little to no problem as well. She can level the terrain and throw any ground jutsu off track and it's a given that if you get hit, you're gonna be at a disadvantage after because those punches can't be brushed off.

Then she has sleeping bombs, tags, etc that she uses and I'm sure given all of this stuff he has Hinata and everyone else doing, Sakura will most likely, if not definitely have a new move in her arsenal. biggrin.gif

Also, why are people naming moves that Hinata currently doesn't have. Do you all seriously count filler jutsu? I guess we should say she's a healer as well huh...

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 06:24 AM

Yeah I'm gonna have to go with sakura on this one I think she would win, not that hinata wouldn't make it a bit difficult, but I think sakura would prevail smile.gif

Edited by zatheko, 20 January 2013 - 06:24 AM.


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:22 AM

Why NH running there mouth saying that Kishi says that he will date Hinata, but many conveniently forget the part where he says that if he is forced maybe he date her.
It means that willingly he doesn't wants to date her or anyone.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:29 AM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Jan 20 2013, 06:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why NH running there mouth saying that Kishi says that he will date Hinata, but many conveniently forget the part where he says that if he is forced maybe he date her.
It means that willingly he doesn't wants to date her or anyone.


It makes sense, actually. Kishimoto said himself it would be weird to date one of his own characters. laugh.gif As a writer myself, I can totally agree with him on that. I don't see why his statement proves NaruHina though. I mean, he's fond of Sakura and sees her character as a "daughter". Wouldn't it be a little weird if he said he'd want to date his daughter? rolleyes.gif

Basically, it's an insignificant detail. The manga is the most reliable source and while the creator is just as reliable, you can't take things out of context like that. Out of context leads to badness and messed-up proof.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 20 January 2013 - 10:30 AM.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 01:10 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Jan 20 2013, 03:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hands down, I'd place my bets on Sakura mainly because of what we've seen of her.

1. She's an analytical fighter. Even in Part 1, she found a way to do damage. Her fight against the Sound Nin. She used basic skills and was able to land a punch on an enemy who seemed to be a lot stronger than her.

- Her fight with Sasori. She studied his movements, managed to take down the Kazekage puppet on her own, and then some.

2. She's a medical ninja so while she is very good at fighting for a medical nin, she's also great at dodging. I love how people call her "slow" but what is this being based from exactly? She's fast enough to easily turn the tables against Zetsu, and then she was able to prevent Sasori from making swiss cheese out of Chiyo. Even in Part 1, given her low stamina and such, she was able to tie with Ino.

3. Even though Sakura doesn't have a nindo, she NEVER gives up easily, and she's reckless. She also has quite the endurance as well and that'd be quite useful in any battle.

4. Super KO Strength. Took out a summon with ease, and was able to subdue Zetsu with little to no problem as well. She can level the terrain and throw any ground jutsu off track and it's a given that if you get hit, you're gonna be at a disadvantage after because those punches can't be brushed off.

Then she has sleeping bombs, tags, etc that she uses and I'm sure given all of this stuff he has Hinata and everyone else doing, Sakura will most likely, if not definitely have a new move in her arsenal. biggrin.gif

Also, why are people naming moves that Hinata currently doesn't have. Do you all seriously count filler jutsu? I guess we should say she's a healer as well huh...


In terms of skills and techniques Sakura wipes the floor with Hinata even though she has Byakugan, I mean like I said all she really has is Juken but without 32 or 64 palms so its just basic juken from what we know(What she did against Neji in the chunin exams). Now recently the air palms and twin lion fists, overall in a fight Sakura would take her because of all the versatile skills she has, although it would be really good to see Sakura do some beast genjutsu that would make her character by far the strongest kunoichi.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 01:31 PM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Jan 20 2013, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It makes sense, actually. Kishimoto said himself it would be weird to date one of his own characters. laugh.gif As a writer myself, I can totally agree with him on that. I don't see why his statement proves NaruHina though. I mean, he's fond of Sakura and sees her character as a "daughter". Wouldn't it be a little weird if he said he'd want to date his daughter? rolleyes.gif

Basically, it's an insignificant detail. The manga is the most reliable source and while the creator is just as reliable, you can't take things out of context like that. Out of context leads to badness and messed-up proof.


HAHA.

Lol, I mean he's the mangaka of Naruto!...if he wanted to make NH canon there should be more hints in the plot. Not relying on these interviews!

About Sakura vs. Hinata, Sakura hands down. The databook shows she's the strongest of the Konoha girls and we know she's pretty good at strategy, so she would be able to get around Hinata's advantages with the Byakugan. And she was trained by Tsunade.

Edited by fireandice, 20 January 2013 - 01:32 PM.


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 02:25 PM

QUOTE (Enkai @ Jan 20 2013, 07:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In terms of skills and techniques Sakura wipes the floor with Hinata even though she has Byakugan, I mean like I said all she really has is Juken but without 32 or 64 palms so its just basic juken from what we know(What she did against Neji in the chunin exams). Now recently the air palms and twin lion fists, overall in a fight Sakura would take her because of all the versatile skills she has, although it would be really good to see Sakura do some beast genjutsu that would make her character by far the strongest kunoichi.


I hope we see something new from her in this war because it's been way too long. I don't want to see a new item or creation from her, but an actual new technique/jutsu. I'd be happy if she's able to move faster due to using chakra at her feet thus making her an even faster opponent. Something that'll give her an edge. I also hope we see what she's capable of with Naruto's chakra running through her. biggrin.gif Can you imagine a punch with her amazing control??? cool.gif

Anyway, she may not have the byakugan and that advantage, but it's as you and I have pointed out. Sakura is a very versatile fighter with a nice set of moves, and she's the strongest of the Konoha girls. And it's also almost certain that she'd know about Hinata's skills and what not due to her even having the Byakugan.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 02:35 PM

Aha! Maybe that's why he made Minato so awesome, he's the father of Naruto! -and if things go as we think they are, Sakura's father in law-

Of course Kishi had to make his in-manga self amazingly awesome and handsome. tongue.gif

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 02:49 PM

Sakura vs Hinata ? I say Sakura would win and the reasons are, well, what you guys mentioned.

Plus, I like to mention again the fact that one punch from her and her opponent is KO'ed XD... Hands down.

Edited by T XD, 20 January 2013 - 02:49 PM.


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 03:07 PM

God, I've been doing Sakura vs Hinata so many times that I can't tell, I lost the count, lol.
But trust me, Sakura takes this one. Overall she has tactics and intelligence.
Hinata has only Gentle Fist, Twin Lion and Air Palm. And, well, the Byakugan. But she has showed in the damn war not being able to use it, back when Naruto saved her. Like, really, you're in a war, enemies are surrounding you, use the damn Byakugan.
Sleep gas bombs and a punch and bye bye Hinata.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 03:27 PM

I want to hear people's opinion on these.

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Jan 19 2013, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
On an unrelated note, since Sakura already said "suki" to Naruto in her confession, wouldn't it be nice if when she fully realized the extent of her feelings for Naruto that instead she says "aikitteneru".

I think that will be more impacting, and also reminiscent to how happy Naruto was when he heard Kushina say it to him.



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Posted 20 January 2013 - 03:38 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Jan 20 2013, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I want to hear people's opinion on these.


I'd love to hear that.
I also asked my friend what's the difference between suki, dai-suki and aishteru.
Well, suki is as in, I like you.
Dai - suki is as in, I like you, but, you know, as in a open relationship and aishteru is like in commited. smile.gif

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 03:46 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 20 2013, 04:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd love to hear that.
I also asked my friend what's the difference between suki, dai-suki and aishteru.
Well, suki is as in, I like you.
Dai - suki is as in, I like you, but, you know, as in a open relationship and aishteru is like in commited. smile.gif

We just need to find a good translation. boogie.gif

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 03:47 PM

Well then, if Sakura has another confession, maybe the next one will not only be more meaningful and true, she'll use "aishiteru". XD
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I don't think that'll be the case though unless there was a big emphasis on "suki" vs "aishiteru". What did Hinata use during her confession?

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 03:53 PM


I found a raw, wait for 0:57-0:58.

Hmm..ramenanitsu we need you XD

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