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#861 Akashi

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 08:06 PM

Hmmmm, that'd be completely dependent on what abilities the slugs have I would think. We know they're considered healers but it'd be cool if some possessed genjutsu skills. :D If they do, then I could see them possibly pushing her genjutsu skills in Sage Mode. I actually hope we see a bit more from the slugs considering we haven't seen a lot to be honest. It's been all about the toads. XD 

We can only find out from the chapters... seriously, the wait gets more and more unbearable each week.  :arg:

Would make no sense, because Yamato told her that she doesnt have what needs to perform that Jutsu to supress Naruto's kyuubi form and would totally break the fact she's an underdog and doesnt come from an strong clan.

I prefer her to be at least the only one on this manga who become strong without coming from an OP clan.

Doesn't Rock Lee come from a normal family too? Plus the guy is only capable of taijutsu! But look at how strong he is.. Same goes for other alive!members of team Guy. And I'm only talking about rookies here.. 


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Posted 08 June 2013 - 08:08 PM

 

We can only find out from the chapters... seriously, the wait gets more and more unbearable each week.  :arg:

Doesn't Rock Lee come from a normal family too? Plus the guy is only capable of taijutsu! But look at how strong he is.. Same goes for other alive!members of team Guy. And I'm only talking about rookies here.. 

 

How strong he is?

Dude he just got sidelined as hell, and it's not even on the spotlight didnt even get a power-up, always faced up situations where he could win but always picked an opponent that would beat him, if there was someome who got nerfed on this story certainly would be Rock-Lee, he had a great advantage(on part 1) because of his speed but now none of that matters.

 

He just looks like someome who was strong(on part 1) and  instead of training(part 2) he said "i'm lazy no more training".

 

Kishi's biggest mistake was to make him fight against his own clone(Zetsu) and almost lose badly only to win due to some speech, but sincerely those zetsus were incribly nerfed because if they were like that on this arc, they would simply clone the whole alliance and win.(they could even perform jutsus)

 

Image a whole Zetsu Naruto clone army spamming Rasengan, certain victory. ;P


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Posted 08 June 2013 - 08:13 PM

It's not, because if it was a technique, Madara would not have the necessity to pick up his DNA to use the wood-style, just look at Sage mode, even with Hashirama's DNA he's not capable of perfoming that because unlike the wood-style the sage mode is a jutsu that can only be aquired by training.

 

About the underdog srsly only tells me that you can only be a strong ninja if you come from an strong clan, Sakura was an underdog because not she was weak but because she didnt come from a clan like Naruto and Sasuke.

She was a normal girl that was place on a team with two skilled ninja like Naruto and Sasuke, and dont come saying Naruto was an underdog later it explains that his whole Uzumaki heritage allowed him to not ever give up and surpass his own limits, which was stupid and destroyed the whole "Loser surpassing the Genius".

I'm not even gonna debate about the bolded considering. If Sakura somehow had both water and earth, then who's to say she wouldn't be capable of combining them for wood? 

 

Also, regarding your underdog comment, you first said that you want her to be strong without coming from some OP clan. You'd prefer she was an underdog who gained her skills with hardwork. Well guess what, this doesn't change the point of my post. Having wood style/being able to combine both water and earth doesn't peg her as someone who came from a clan. And Naruto was definitely an underdog in the beginning of the series. Chakra/Kyuubi aside, the guy was pretty much the worst in the class. There're different types of underdogs obviously, and nowhere did I say she was an underdog because she was weak. Like I said before, listing off possibilities that may or may not come to fruition isn't a crime, and setting off such limitations for her is what you may choose to do, but that's not what others do. You feel that she'd lose her underdog status gaining such an ability but I personally feel that it'd add to her successes as a normal girl who had nothing but awesome chakra control and intelligence.  :zaru:


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Posted 08 June 2013 - 08:19 PM

It would be the same case with Sakura, omg she was an underdog then explain that she reached that level due to some heritage from the Senju clan, then forget the underdog thing, because she was an Senju all along and this explain how she reached that level, she had some advantages due to her heritage like Naruto, he was an underdog but then it's explained that he had more endurance than the other kids, he had way more chakra, and also explained how he get that far because of that heritage.
I'm sayign is if she comes from other clans then it's kinda obvious that she wasnt an underdog, she was just a normal girl with a mysterious power which is later revealed to her and then she got an huge power-up.

You're assuming that she HAS to come from a clan to gain such an ability and I'm clearly saying she doesn't. :P Lets just agree to disagree on the matter.  :thumb:



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Posted 08 June 2013 - 08:22 PM

You're assuming that she HAS to come from a clan to gain such an ability and I'm clearly saying she doesn't. :P Lets just agree to disagree on the matter.  :thumb:

Wood style == Senju, Water/Earth/Vitality.

Also kekkei genkai and also yamato, Madara, Tobi got that due to DNA stuff which proves that it's a kekkei genkai rather than a jutsu that you can learn, making her to use that it's inconsistent and crap writing.

Agree to Disagree.

 

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 08:25 PM

How strong he is?

Dude he just got sidelined as hell, and it's not even on the spotlight didnt even get a power-up, always faced up situations where he could win but always picked an opponent that would beat him, if there was someome who got nerfed on this story certainly would be Rock-Lee, he had a great advantage(on part 1) because of his speed but now none of that matters.

 

He just looks like someome who was strong(on part 1) and  instead of training(part 2) he said "i'm lazy no more training".

He's a lot more stronger that some jounin-level ninjas that come from various shinobi clans/ANBU/Root. Take Sai, or Kankuro: I'm sure it would take him a few minutes to beat them without opening the gates. If Neji was alive, I guess that Lee could've win against him too (but that would require him opening the inner gates)!

A lot of people has been complaining that we didn't see team Guy this chapter, but I'm sure we will soon. I sincerely hope that unlike team 8 and team 10, their motivation would not be competition but a memory of Neji - their closest friend and teammate. That's when they'll show their true power. Just you wait.  :wink:



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Posted 08 June 2013 - 08:27 PM

He's a lot more stronger that some jounin-level ninjas that come from various shinobi clans/ANBU/Root. Take Sai, or Kankuro: I'm sure it would take him a few minutes to beat them without opening the gates. If Neji was alive, I guess that Lee could've win against him too (but that would require him opening the inner gates)!

A lot of people has been complaining that we didn't see team Guy this chapter, but I'm sure we will soon. I sincerely hope that unlike team 8 and team 10, their motivation would not be competition but a memory of Neji - their closest friend and teammate. That's when they'll show their true power. Just you wait.  :wink:

I hope he manages to use that attack gai uses and that tiger fist.
Funny how they just removed Ten-ten's power up that relics.


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Posted 08 June 2013 - 08:29 PM

Does anyone have any thoughts on what's going to happen with sasuke after this war? I think he will be a wanderer until Naruto becomes hokage and will probably go with team Taka. Any thoughts?

 

Sasuke is going to betray the alliance and initiate emo mode. He's probably gonna kill someone (sai or ino my bets)


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Posted 08 June 2013 - 08:33 PM

I'd love for Sakura to gain wood element after earth and water. She'd likely have no problem combining the two of them. She'd be a damn beast for sure! Make it happen Kishi!! 

 

The problem with that is that Wood Release is a Kekkei Genkai of ether the Senju Clan (or what ever clan Hashirama mother was from) and it was stated by Kishi himself that Sakura has no special background.

 

I have a feeling that Kishi has a few more awesome techniques for Sakua under his sleeve. The grand battle has just started and Jyuubi is about to go true form: I don't think that Yin seal will be good enough for that kind of challenge. A few months ago we couldn't even hope for what's happening right now in the manga, which means that we're likely to get a few more nice surprises.  :wink:

 

I think that once the Jubi reaches it's final form it will be just Naruto in full Biju Mode and Sasuke in (Perfect?) Susanoo and maybe the Hokages (depending on if Hashirama and Madara start to fight each other) fighting the Jubi.

 

Agree. I'm still hoping for one Mano y Mano for her. Or at least same size as her.

 

The problem is who would she fight? even if Taka and Orochimaru became the final villains Sakura would easily be able to wipe the floor with anybody except Sasuke, and a Sakura vs. Sasuke fight would be pointless because we already know that Naruto and Sasuke will fight each other, the only thing a Sakura vs. Sasuke fight would do for the story is it would be used to address their relationship and how Sakura is no longer a Sasuke fangirl, and while for us NaruSaku shippers that would be good, but if Kishi was trying to create the most drama then he would most likely wait until the very last chapter before making any pairing canon making sure to give the impression that either NS or SS could happen.


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Posted 08 June 2013 - 08:33 PM

 

Sasuke is going to betray the alliance and initiate emo mode. He's probably gonna kill someone (sai or ino my bets)

or naruto ta da ta ta



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Posted 08 June 2013 - 08:34 PM

 
Sasuke is going to betray the alliance and initiate emo mode. He's probably gonna kill someone (sai or ino my bets)


I think if his dream is to become hokage then one of the possibilitys kishi could go down would be for him to betray the alliance to gain some sorts of power

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 08:38 PM

 

The problem with that is that Wood Release is a Kekkei Genkai of ether the Senju Clan (or what ever clan Hashirama mother was from) and it was stated by Kishi himself that Sakura has no special background.

 

 

I think that once the Jubi reaches it's final form it will be just Naruto in full Biju Mode and Sasuke in (Perfect?) Susanoo and maybe the Hokages (depending on if Hashirama and Madara start to fight each other) fighting the Jubi.

 

 

The problem is who would she fight? even if Taka and Orochimaru became the final villains Sakura would easily be able to wipe the floor with anybody except Sasuke, and a Sakura vs. Sasuke fight would be pointless because we already know that Naruto and Sasuke will fight each other, the only thing a Sakura vs. Sasuke fight would do for the story is it would be used to address their relationship and how Sakura is no longer a Sasuke fangirl, and while for us NaruSaku shippers that would be good, but if Kishi was trying to create the most drama then he would most likely wait until the very last chapter before making any pairing canon making sure to give the impression that either NS or SS could happen.

I just looked it up. LOL  :sweatdrop: No wood style for Haruno Sakura. 



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Posted 08 June 2013 - 08:41 PM

I think that once the Jubi reaches it's final form it will be just Naruto in full Biju Mode and Sasuke in (Perfect?) Susanoo and maybe the Hokages (depending on if Hashirama and Madara start to fight each other) fighting the Jubi.

The Jyuubi is a few chapter away from going full form, and Sakura has just made her dream come true: to fight alongside Naruto and Sasuke. I don't think that after killing off a few dozens of mini!jyuubis she'll be satisfied and will go back healing the wounded.



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Posted 08 June 2013 - 08:41 PM

The problem is who would she fight? even if Taka and Orochimaru became the final villains Sakura would easily be able to wipe the floor with anybody except Sasuke, and a Sakura vs. Sasuke fight would be pointless because we already know that Naruto and Sasuke will fight each other, the only thing a Sakura vs. Sasuke fight would do for the story is it would be used to address their relationship and how Sakura is no longer a Sasuke fangirl, and while for us NaruSaku shippers that would be good, but if Kishi was trying to create the most drama then he would most likely wait until the very last chapter before making any pairing canon making sure to give the impression that either NS or SS could happen.


Not unless you use plot device. But anyway, you never know, as well as I don't either. Sometimes, you just have to wait and be surprise. At the very least, I want a tag team, but again, we don't know what's in store.

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 08:51 PM

Mokuton is a KG that is exclusively available to the Senju Clan, specifically Hashirama. It's for that same reasoning that various other intermixed elements such as Hyoton and Yoton are unteachable to anyone who are not biologically related to clans who possess those innate abilities; the former should technically be extinct now unless it was revealed that a few scattered remnants of Haku's clan were able to survive the persecution of groups with biological abilities. Despite Kishi's initial impressions of Naruto being a child of unfortunate circumstances with little talent the only aspect in Naruto's life that was hindering him was his isolation from general society and the lack of mentors to instruct him on how to become a powerful shinobi at a young age. But as you can see the moment he began to receive worthwhile training Naruto's abilities and his rank rose dramatically in a very short period of time. You can attribute his success not just to his own personal tenacity but his exorbitant stamina and chakra levels that he received from being a jinchuuriki and Uzumaki. Really, even without Kurama Naruto would still be considerably powerful as SM would remain an option for him as a primary combat state to use and he would capable of fusing with Ma and Pa as well.

 

Sakura didn't have nearly as many advantages as Naruto did but her precise chakra control, natural affinity for genjutsu, and  intelligence are qualities which helped to distinguish her from the likes of Rock Lee who was incapable of using two core fighting styles of a ninja and originally disadvantaged at the one area of fighting that he was able to use. As sad as it is to say being naturally gifted will likely place you on a higher pedestal than what anyone who doesn't have a genetic ability, a chakra beast, or some other perk like enormous chakra reserves can achieve. Most of the known Kages who have ever existed appeared to have had either bloodline inheritances (Mei and Onoki), were a jinuuriki (Yagura), or they had some other natural advantage that placed them above their peers (4th Raikage). The only exceptions to this who defied the odds and were able to achieve the position of Kage are Hiruzen and Minato.



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Posted 08 June 2013 - 08:53 PM

Not unless you use plot device. But anyway, you never know, as well as I don't either. Sometimes, you just have to wait and be surprise. At the very least, I want a tag team, but again, we don't know what's in store.

I wish a Naruto and Sakura tag team battle but after their romantic relationship is settled, kitten man why Jiraiya had to die i would love Naruto/Sakura vs Jiraiya/Tsunade for Naruto to be hokage, or well they edo tensei'd Naruto's mother then Naruto/Sakura would fight against Minato/Kushina.  :wibble: (Overkill)

 

Or just Naruto/Sakura vs Minato.


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Posted 08 June 2013 - 08:57 PM

I wish a Naruto and Sakura tag team battle but after their romantic relationship is settled, kitten man why Jiraiya had to die i would love Naruto/Sakura vs Jiraiya/Tsunade for Naruto to be hokage, or well they edo tensei'd Naruto's mother then Naruto/Sakura would fight against Minato/Kushina.  :wibble: (Overkill)
 
Or just Naruto/Sakura vs Minato.

More like I wish someone in there have Jiraiya's cell or anything enough to use Edo Tensei and when/if Tsunade dies, especially when Naruto and Sakura don't get the proper closure as in meeting her, then revive her and bam, masters vs. students. Too bad for Sasuke since he wants to be an a--hole and not join since he's "one man army" guy...

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 09:10 PM

The Jyuubi is a few chapter away from going full form, and Sakura has just made her dream come true: to fight alongside Naruto and Sasuke. I don't think that after killing off a few dozens of mini!jyuubis she'll be satisfied and will go back healing the wounded.

Agreed, and given how important she is, and her role as the successor of the Hokage, I can't see her taking a seat either especially considering how much of an asset she'd be to the disposal of the Juubi. Hopefully, Kishi doesn't feel that her taking out a nice chunk of Juubi is satisfactory. :P 



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Posted 08 June 2013 - 09:19 PM

 

The problem with that is that Wood Release is a Kekkei Genkai of ether the Senju Clan (or what ever clan Hashirama mother was from) and it was stated by Kishi himself that Sakura has no special background.

 

 

I think that once the Jubi reaches it's final form it will be just Naruto in full Biju Mode and Sasuke in (Perfect?) Susanoo and maybe the Hokages (depending on if Hashirama and Madara start to fight each other) fighting the Jubi.

 

 

The problem is who would she fight? even if Taka and Orochimaru became the final villains Sakura would easily be able to wipe the floor with anybody except Sasuke, and a Sakura vs. Sasuke fight would be pointless because we already know that Naruto and Sasuke will fight each other, the only thing a Sakura vs. Sasuke fight would do for the story is it would be used to address their relationship and how Sakura is no longer a Sasuke fangirl, and while for us NaruSaku shippers that would be good, but if Kishi was trying to create the most drama then he would most likely wait until the very last chapter before making any pairing canon making sure to give the impression that either NS or SS could happen.

How would Kishi give a decent impression that SS could happen reasonably?

 

1) he would have to either: Have to put Sasuke way OOC and have him confess love for Sakura

 

2) regress sakura to part 1, because as of now (540)she see's her love for sasuke as bad so he wouldn't be able to do it without regressing her.

 

so i dont think he's going to give much impressions if any of SS, other then Sakura kicking out her remaining old feelings for sasuke and realizing Naruto as her true love


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Posted 08 June 2013 - 09:25 PM

How would Kishi give a decent impression that SS could happen reasonably?

 

1) he would have to either: Have to put Sasuke way OOC and have him confess love for Sakura

 

2) regress sakura to part 1, because as of now (540)she see's her love for sasuke as bad so he wouldn't be able to do it without regressing her.

 

so i dont think he's going to give much impressions if any of SS, other then Sakura kicking out her remaining old feelings for sasuke and realizing Naruto as her true love

And i also dont think he's going to give impression that NH could happen because he basically stated his feelings for Sakura two chapters before, so no matter what type of fanservice he give to Hinata it's not gonna change, i feel that the impression that i got is that he's resolving the pairings, for me he resolved NH and SS is giving hints that he also resolved the whole SS thing putting her to be basically oblivious to Sasuke in terms of romance and not giving hints that she's still in love with him, not even a blushing lol.

Putting all the kunoichis to compare with her, Showing Ino, Karin regressing back to p 1 and showing Sakura as a matured woman that already moved on and loves Naruto? 

Putting Hinata to be so centered on Naruto to a point that it's selfish to compare with Sakura and her selfless love with Naruto, it's like Kishi putting Sakura into a pedestall and say "look haters this the female heroine" lol.


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