Can we please not post tumblr posts about SS and NH
I think it's unnecessary
Edited by TheMagicConch, 27 August 2014 - 08:03 PM.
Posted 27 August 2014 - 08:03 PM
Can we please not post tumblr posts about SS and NH
I think it's unnecessary
Edited by TheMagicConch, 27 August 2014 - 08:03 PM.
Posted 27 August 2014 - 08:05 PM
I doubt that Sakura will still wants to be with him.She doesn't trust in him yet those fans still say she will go to Sasuke.SS ship is sunk.
Posted 27 August 2014 - 08:09 PM
Posted 27 August 2014 - 08:16 PM
Posted 27 August 2014 - 08:20 PM
Are there any NS theories that have manga support and mytology?
Posted 27 August 2014 - 08:35 PM
There are good amount of them. Chatte knows them. Heck, she got some right, yet others remain in question.Are there any NS theories that have manga support and mytology?
Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 27 August 2014 - 08:36 PM.
Posted 27 August 2014 - 09:01 PM
Idk about any theories, but I know of the Japanese folk tale The Tale of the Gallant Jiraiya. Its characters are Jiraiya, Tsunade, and Orochimaru (former comrade, later enemy of Jiraiya) who are masters of frog, slug, and snake magic, respectively. Jiraiya falls in love with Tsunade in the tale, and they get married. And we all know the canon parallels of Jiraiya and Tsunade..Are there any NS theories that have manga support and mytology?
Posted 27 August 2014 - 09:05 PM
well, talking about chapter 689... have you guys seen this? http://raypazza.tumb...ythology-is-the
That's an interesting Theory, though the part about the three gifts Ninigi came down with, Sasuke only wields one of the three gifts, The sword of Kusunagi, (though also the same name is given to Orichimaru's sword, and apparently the Sword Itach's Susanoo wields is also a variant of the Kusunagi sword, but that's according to Narutopedia so not sure how accurate that is). The Yata no Kagami is wielded by Itachi's Susanoo, and the Yasakani no megatama look like the beads around Narutos' neck when goes into Kurama mode. So that part of the theory seems a bit weak, but I don't know Japanese folklore anywhere near enough to make any concrete argument for or against.
Besides this is Kishi, he takes inspirations loosely from folklore, we have bits of Journey to the West all over the place, Kaguya's tale has been altered to make her into an antagonist. There are too many stories, legends and folklore mixed in to really use any of these legends as concrete proof. Come on when the Sage's brothers name was unvielded to be Hamura, people started to speculate Sakura was his decendant because the flower for the District of Hamura in Tokyo is Sakura.
Posted 27 August 2014 - 09:18 PM
Well this sucks. I just hope that we at least get to keep seeing the chapters, even if it is at a later date.
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Posted 27 August 2014 - 09:27 PM
These are dark days right now lol
Posted 27 August 2014 - 09:33 PM
That's an interesting Theory, though the part about the three gifts Ninigi came down with, Sasuke only wields one of the three gifts, The sword of Kusunagi, (though also the same name is given to Orichimaru's sword, and apparently the Sword Itach's Susanoo wields is also a variant of the Kusunagi sword, but that's according to Narutopedia so not sure how accurate that is). The Yata no Kagami is wielded by Itachi's Susanoo, and the Yasakani no megatama look like the beads around Narutos' neck when goes into Kurama mode. So that part of the theory seems a bit weak, but I don't know Japanese folklore anywhere near enough to make any concrete argument for or against.
Besides this is Kishi, he takes inspirations loosely from folklore, we have bits of Journey to the West all over the place, Kaguya's tale has been altered to make her into an antagonist. There are too many stories, legends and folklore mixed in to really use any of these legends as concrete proof. Come on when the Sage's brothers name was unvielded to be Hamura, people started to speculate Sakura was his decendant because the flower for the District of Hamura in Tokyo is Sakura.
I read a theory about Black Zetsu being Hamura ya know.
Posted 27 August 2014 - 09:36 PM
These are dark days right now lol
The night is darkest just before the dawn. I promise you the dawn is coming.
Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.
Posted 27 August 2014 - 09:45 PM
The night is darkest just before the dawn. I promise you the dawn is coming.
How sweet.
Posted 27 August 2014 - 09:53 PM
well, talking about chapter 689... have you guys seen this? http://raypazza.tumb...ythology-is-the
Oh brother not that stupid ridiculous SS theory again . Ok let me put this shortly a theory works or can work only and only if the manga supports it has similar events for example like @Hiraishin said "The Tales of Jiraiya the Gallant" which has similar events in the actual manga and romance subplot SS on the other hand is just pulling kitten out of their ass so it can fit their already ridiculous and disgusting paring THE END .
Posted 27 August 2014 - 11:54 PM
Oh brother not that stupid ridiculous SS theory again . Ok let me put this shortly a theory works or can work only and only if the manga supports it has similar events for example like @Hiraishin said "The Tales of Jiraiya the Gallant" which has similar events in the actual manga and romance subplot SS on the other hand is just pulling kitten out of their ass so it can fit their already ridiculous and disgusting paring THE END .
I really hate this theory too because while yes some folklore references are in Naruto they are not direct references. Again in the story they tell, both characters were in love with each other, but in the manga Sasuke doesn't love Sakura at all. The Tales of Jiraiya the Gallant is another folklore that is much heavier referenced, but is not even similar to the actual folklore either. Tsunade and Jiraiya in Naruto were not a couple. Heavy hints that they could have been, but it never came to pass. I could reference this to Naruto and Sakura by saying well they are inheritors of the Frog and Slug and thus they will get together like the story with Sasuke being the snake.
Also, I thought parallels meant nothing? Why do people keep saying parallels mean nothing and yet parallel everything in Naruto to Japanese folklore?
Edited by James S Cassidy, 27 August 2014 - 11:54 PM.
Posted 28 August 2014 - 12:04 AM
Parallels don't mean anything to them unless it actually supports their pairings. Double standards everywhereI really hate this theory too because while yes some folklore references are in Naruto they are not direct references. Again in the story they tell, both characters were in love with each other, but in the manga Sasuke doesn't love Sakura at all. The Tales of Jiraiya the Gallant is another folklore that is much heavier referenced, but is not even similar to the actual folklore either. Tsunade and Jiraiya in Naruto were not a couple. Heavy hints that they could have been, but it never came to pass. I could reference this to Naruto and Sakura by saying well they are inheritors of the Frog and Slug and thus they will get together like the story with Sasuke being the snake.
Also, I thought parallels meant nothing? Why do people keep saying parallels mean nothing and yet parallel everything in Naruto to Japanese folklore?
Posted 28 August 2014 - 12:06 AM
I really hate this theory too because while yes some folklore references are in Naruto they are not direct references. Again in the story they tell, both characters were in love with each other, but in the manga Sasuke doesn't love Sakura at all. The Tales of Jiraiya the Gallant is another folklore that is much heavier referenced, but is not even similar to the actual folklore either. Tsunade and Jiraiya in Naruto were not a couple. Heavy hints that they could have been, but it never came to pass. I could reference this to Naruto and Sakura by saying well they are inheritors of the Frog and Slug and thus they will get together like the story with Sasuke being the snake.
Also, I thought parallels meant nothing? Why do people keep saying parallels mean nothing and yet parallel everything in Naruto to Japanese folklore?
Pretty much what you said . SS theory just have to many loop holes it isn't even funny the biggest one is their actual relationship doesn't fit with this folktale , if Sakura and Sasuke were referenced as Ninigi and Konohana or if there was a mention a hint of that folklore in the manga then yes they would have been right otherwise what they are doing with this is like always making up stuff out of their ass so it can fit their paring really its nothing new when it comes to SS its getting very very old .
Yes The Talles of Jiraiya at least is referenced in the manga as well as the Yamata no Orochi and last the Kaguya one that's the difference in here .
Oh you You know that when it comes to SS everything matters but not for NS nope we can have that now it goes against everything that is SS so double standards pretty much like always .
Posted 28 August 2014 - 12:08 AM
Parallels don't mean anything to them unless it actually supports their pairings. Double standards everywhere
Exactly. They will reject any parallels/hints/moments that support Naruto and Sakura. But as soon as they smell some NH, they will instantly declare that Kishi uses symbolism and parallels to tell us the future. Hypocrites all of them.
Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.
Posted 28 August 2014 - 12:11 AM
Edited by rocci, 28 August 2014 - 12:13 AM.
Posted 28 August 2014 - 12:11 AM
See, and that's absolutely why I don't take any of their "theories" seriously. They look for something that's not supported at all in the story, while all of our proof is thrown right into their faces and they still try their hardest to ignore it.Exactly. They will reject any parallels/hints/moments that support Naruto and Sakura. But as soon as they smell some NH, they will instantly declare that Kishi uses symbolism and parallels to tell us the future. Hypocrites all of them.
Edited by Swagkura, 28 August 2014 - 12:12 AM.
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