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[swagosaurus]

I don't think it's Kishi's fault either. I think his is making Hinata the way she is by intention. He must be fully aware of it. So it's Hinata's fault that I don't like her. I don't hate her at all, but I'm very indifferent to her, she is one of few characters I don't care for. She is indirectly doing bad things, behind good intentions. The only reason I got pissed when she gasmed over his hand was because her cousin's body- who just sacrificed his life for both of them, is growing cold behind her feet.

Her characterization has been terrible in comparison to Sakura's; the excuse that Kishi is bad at writing female characters doesn't exactly work with that sort of contrast. It's almost like she doesn't even care that Neji just died for her, especially in 616. I don't mean to sound bashy, but all she did was fangirl over Naruto. Seriously.

[sushi.]

That is even more interesting^
He is in front of her, his dead body is clearly visible and they just left him there. XD The sad moments were taken over by Rock Lee.
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I think we're writing at the same time , I must edit. swagosaurus, I agree with you again. : ) When he continously shows panels where Hinata does something wrong, there is something wrong with her, not Kishi. It's not the same with Sakura, he has freezed her development, not decreased it. I think Kishi really really intends for Sakura to be a well liked character, that and the reason she's the main female is why I have faith in what Kishi has planned for her.

Edited by sushi., 20 January 2013 - 12:33 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

It's like I said, Hinata is all about Naruto with his nindo. Sakura is all about Naruto with his nindo, suffering, happiness, relationships (Sasuke as a brother), enemies, and more. Sakura has the developments that is suited to be a guy's wife.

[Slextrem]

That is even more interesting^
He is in front of her, his dead body is clearly visible and they just left him there. XD The sad moments were taken over by Rock Lee.

That actually really irritated me. It felt like Kishimoto turned Neji's death into a comedic event. I mean, the panel of Lee crying isn't exactly moving. Also, why are Tenten and Guy perfectly fine with it? I expected them to at least have the same kind of reaction that Shikamaru had when his father died. No tears, but he obviously looks hurt. Neji didn't get any of this from the people he was closest to. Not from Tenten, not from Guy, not even from Hiashi (?).

Like swagosaurus said, it felt like Hinata didn't even care that Neji died protecting her. She cried for him a little bit, but in the next chapter she was suddenly over it and fawning over Naruto's hand, like a fangirl. It bothers me so much. Neji was an awesome character. He deserves more respect than that.

[kirabook]

I've always wondered if that's why people adored Hinata so much, because she was shy and introverted.

I'm a shy and introverted girl (not the point of stuttering unless I have to do a speech int he middle of class or something XD). I was even moreso when I first started reading Naruto and actually, Hinata's shyness and introvertedness reminded me so much of myself back then that I outright hated her and everything she was.

I did like when she was trying to stand up for herself and do something, but I still hated that every time Naruto looked in her direction she would blush or every time she spoke she stuttered as if she were facing a crowd of hundreds.

Now-a-days, I feel I can't exactly blame her for being that way. Some people are just that shy and introverted, much more than I could ever be. By part 2, I thought she would have matured and found her own way and reason to be strong, but it turns out we left off exactly when we last saw her in part 1. I was not happy with her introduction at all. I also did not like that she was still leeching off of Naruto's strength or that she had resolved to earn Naruto's praise rather than become strong for her clan.

I guess that is also why I can't support Hinata and her dream. Her dream is not where I think Kishi should have taken her character. I think she would be much more fleshed out if instead we say her trying to impress her father or shine in front of her clan to earn their approval, but no, she just wants to shine for Naruto. :/ I hate girls like that, girls my age focusing on love so much and not on their family. Your family is usually much more important than and random crush you have.

[sushi.]

It's like I said, Hinata is all about Naruto with his nindo. Sakura is all about Naruto with his nindo, suffering, happiness, relationships (Sasuke as a brother), enemies, and more. Sakura has the developments that is suited to be a guy's wife.

I remember mentioning this in one of my YT rants. It was something like "While Hinata acknowledges what she takes inspiration of(his nindo), Sakura acknowledges -what you mentioned" Because Naruto wants to be acknowledged for who he is, not just his nindo.

Slextrem, I also think they got over his death too fast. It was almost like Guy and Tenten didn't need to get over it. And Hiashi was like "I've failed you, Hizashi.", then we got no more panels of him. The griefing progression should go like this: Shock - sadness - get back on your feet. They missed the first two parts, but I am impressed that Shikamaru made it in 5 sec.

And as kirabook said, Hinata is leeching Naruto's strength. It's OK to be inspired, but Naruto is basically her lifeforce. She needs to do something for herself.

Edited by sushi., 19 January 2013 - 10:01 PM.

[Tsubaki]

Seems like I'm the only one who sometimes blame the anime team for all this popularity that NaruHina has ? at least in the West... because here people watch more anime than read the manga.

they portray Hinata in a better way than the manga , I can't even conside episode 166 as a canon since they totally twisted her confession making it seem much more heroic than it actually was and Naruto and Hinata have some moments in fillers episodes ... He even saw her naked!!!!

[piinkfairymagic]

I don't know why NH/SS fans do not know hinata and sakura act the same way when they are around naruto and sasuke like fangirls. That's why many fans support both although they don't know that the girls development stop when they are around them. I'm not bashing or anything I'm just saying what I believe . that's a major reason why I support narusaku naruto actual make sakura a better person and she's herself when around him unlike when she's around sasuke.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Seems like I'm the only one who sometimes blame the anime team for all this popularity that NaruHina has ? at least in the West... because here people watch more anime than read the manga.

they portray Hinata in a better way than the manga , I can't even conside episode 166 as a canon since they totally twisted her confession making it seem much more heroic than it actually was and Naruto and Hinata have some moments in fillers episodes ... He even saw her naked!!!!

Ah yes. Filler hell. Good times, good times...But seriously, maybe it was filler hell that created it or at least boost it, even though Naruto is always dense and a lot of them are really throw away, whereas recent ones are like effort into it which happened to have some NS. Funny how it works, no?

[sushi.]

Ah yes. Filler hell. Good times, good times...But seriously, maybe it was filler hell that created it or at least boost it, even though Naruto is always dense and a lot of them are really throw away, whereas recent ones are like effort into it which happened to have some NS. Funny how it works, no?

The worst is her confession. Hmm..so she actually had a fight with Pain(no, it was slaughter), was bullied(No, Sakura was).

In the manga, the way she was portrayed when she stepped in was that she was going to kill herself, and she needed to get the confession of her chest before she would die in front of Naruto's eyes. In the manga, it looked to me like she was just stupid and thought she would be a challenge to Pain.

The editors notes are also partly to blame. Many people don't know Kishi doesn't write them. They're full of NH.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Road to Ninja will be launched on 24/04/2013.

[Slextrem]

Seems like I'm the only one who sometimes blame the anime team for all this popularity that NaruHina has ? at least in the West... because here people watch more anime than read the manga.

they portray Hinata in a better way than the manga , I can't even conside episode 166 as a canon since they totally twisted her confession making it seem much more heroic than it actually was and Naruto and Hinata have some moments in fillers episodes ... He even saw her naked!!!!

I'm with you there. Studio Pierrot has admitted that they have a lot of Hinata fans on staff, so it makes sense that they include her in so many of the fillers and have done little things to make her moments seem larger than they were in the manga. For example, her confession episode.

The confession itself was maybe 4 pages with some flashbacks of her watching Naruto, then Hinata charges at Pein and is down and out in one panel. In the episode though, they added in that filler story about Hinata being bullied and Naruto coming to her rescue, extended her fight with Pein, let her actually land a hit on him, had her break some of the chakra rods in Naruto, she was given top notch animation, plus she got her own ending during that arc. That is very, very, misleading stuff, Studio Pierrot. I don't care how many Hinata fans are on your staff. Shame on you!

Honestly though, I feel sorry for the fans of Hinata that only watch the anime. They've been given this misconception that Hinata is the heroine of the series and it's all because of what they've seen in the anime. Imagine their surprise when they read the manga and see just how small of a role Hinata actually plays in the series.

That being said, it's also no wonder that so many anime fans dislike Sakura. For one, they're always using her punches as comic relief, so she's beating on Naruto far more than she ever has in the manga. Then, for a while, they were doing fillers that took place back in Part One, where Sakura is still fangirling over Sasuke. Don't get me wrong, Team Seven interaction is always cute, but I really hate seeing Sakura back to the way she was at stage one. Her English voice actress isn't very good either - she sounds bossy all of the time.

Has the anime team been better lately? Yes, but they still show their bias every now and then.

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Hinata using medical ninjutsu in the recent filler arc, or cradling Naruto in her lap as soon as she enters the scene, anyone?

That's why I don't really watch the anime anymore. SP ruined it for me. Although, I do enjoy the Rock Lee Springtime of Youth series.

Edited by Slextrem, 19 January 2013 - 10:31 PM.

[T XD]

I really want to know why we didn't get the reactions of Neji's death from Tenten and Gai. I was looking forward for how will they react, and not just Lee.

They were just standing and looking at Lee with Neji in his arm...

Sometimes, I think about it and the only thing that comes to my mind is that he just wants to show Lee's reaction more than Tenten and Gai.

Road to Ninja will be launched on 24/04/2013.

There's still 2 months and a half. Great XD, it's not very far from now.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Actually, he's in front of her feet.

This panel really grossed me out when I noticed Neji just laying there.

Neji just teleported, he was behind Naruto now he was in front of him.

This translation is wrong, it's saying that the chakra belongs to Naruto not "Naruto-kun".

The drawing is ugly too, Naruto looks horrible and FAT.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 19 January 2013 - 10:32 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

The worst is her confession. Hmm..so she actually had a fight with Pain(no, it was slaughter), was bullied(No, Sakura was).

In the manga, the way she was portrayed when she stepped in was that she was going to kill herself, and she needed to get the confession of her chest before she would die in front of Naruto's eyes. In the manga, it looked to me like she was just stupid and thought she would be a challenge to Pain.

The editors notes are also partly to blame. Many people don't know Kishi doesn't write them. They're full of NH.

Yeah, even the games didn't make a big deal. I remember I play the game and then out of nowhere, Hinata got stabbed and that's it. I was like, "Um, where's that confession?" They sure kept the hug but not confession? Ok, works for me. But yeah, anime still has that favoritism in them, but oh well, as long they don't interfere Naruto's life. Play all you want with Hinata, but mess with the plot. Relevent plot (sorry for anti).

Road to Ninja will be launched on 24/04/2013.

Oh cool. Hopefully, if we get a good note on NS, this movie won't be awkward to watch. If 615 did have a follow up to make NH 95% canon, oh man, I don't even know if I should watch it.

[Slextrem]

Neji just teleported, he was behind Naruto now he was in front of him.

This translation is wrong, it's saying that the chakra belongs to Naruto not "Naruto-kun".

The drawing is ugly too, Naruto looks horrible and FAT.

He has his buffet pants on.

Edited by Slextrem, 19 January 2013 - 10:35 PM.

[T XD]

He has his buffet pants on.

Lolz

His jumpsuit makes him appear full and wider !

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

He has his buffet pants on.

It's worse than chouji, Naruto is changing is weight every chapter.

[T XD]

He has his buffet pants on.

Lolz

His jumpsuit makes him appear full and wider !

Edited by T XD, 19 January 2013 - 10:45 PM.

[kirabook]

My brother decided to use the anime to catch up to the manga just recently and I had to remind him a million times that some of those things did not happen in the manga and that Kishi doesn't have anything to do with writing the anime. Even some people on DA thinks Kishi writes the anime or that the anime is the same as the manga.