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#8701 Tsubaki

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 04:24 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 18 2013, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Love the sig & avatar.



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QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Jan 18 2013, 09:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nice sig and avatar. happy.gif

The possibility is endless but Kishi must choose one. Funny, back then, we kept having possibilities that Kishi will do to make NH the main pairing after 615 but he went to the other route. I guess we got carried away. Now for this one, phew, I don't know what will he come up with. One thing for sure is that he is true to his words: Sakura is a heroine. End of story. That made me feel good, so now, we are waiting for "that" moment.


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Yes! this cover couldn't have come at a better time, it clearly showed again to the readers who is the heroine of the story and the fact that she didn't appear with the others in this chapter

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 06:10 AM

Really now, am I the one feeling that everyone, or at least, almost everyone wants to jump at our throats because we have our faith renewed in NS with the last chapter and, not only, cover?
I made a post on Tumblr and I have a girl who is a Sakura fan, but she's SS where I talk about Naruto and Sakura's position and if that could mean something and she was just "Sasuke is there too, you know?"
Jeez, of course i know. But the difference is, Sasuke is a drawing on the scroll! Naruto and Sakura are the ones outside, they're not the drawings. Although, well, technically they are.
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 06:48 AM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 18 2013, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I totally agree with this.
And I was thinking. How would Kishi explain the OVA 2011 or Road to Ninja if Naruto would end up with Hinata? It's just very ... how should I say it, out of its place.



Better to say How would Kishi explain the OVA 2011 or Road to Ninja or episode 235 if Naruto would end up with Hinata if all this count for the manga, but it will count for the anime?

And for the manga i thing Kishi does not have to explain anything, or just that writing romance is not his strong point.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 07:00 AM

QUOTE (Tsubaki @ Jan 18 2013, 11:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Thank you! 121721.gif

Yes! this cover couldn't have come at a better time, it clearly showed again to the readers who is the heroine of the story and the fact that she didn't appear with the others in this chapter

I agree.

You know, what would happen if Hinata was on that cover? How would we all react to it?

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 07:01 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Jan 19 2013, 06:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree.

You know, what would happen if Hinata was on that cover? How would we all react to it?

Well, the 616 thread would have 100 pages by now.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 07:10 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Jan 19 2013, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know, what would happen if Hinata was on that cover? How would we all react to it?

If Hinata was on the cover then it would give those saying that she has taken the position of heroine from Sakura a very real leg to stand on.
Also as Chucky-kun said the 616 thread would be a mess.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 07:34 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Jan 19 2013, 08:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree.

You know, what would happen if Hinata was on that cover? How would we all react to it?


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Posted 19 January 2013 - 10:52 AM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 19 2013, 03:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Really now, am I the one feeling that everyone, or at least, almost everyone wants to jump at our throats because we have our faith renewed in NS with the last chapter and, not only, cover?
I made a post on Tumblr and I have a girl who is a Sakura fan, but she's SS where I talk about Naruto and Sakura's position and if that could mean something and she was just "Sasuke is there too, you know?"
Jeez, of course i know. But the difference is, Sasuke is a drawing on the scroll! Naruto and Sakura are the ones outside, they're not the drawings. Although, well, technically they are.
Geez, drawception! laugh.gif

Kishi, blowing our minds one drawing at a time. laugh.gif



The more I think about it the more I believe that Kishi was specifically thinking about Naruto and Sakura as the representatives of heroes and heroines. After all, in the end Sasuke is the villain in this story.

I don't think it's foreshadowing that Naruto and Sakura will fight Sasuke together, it more of Kishi's reminder that Naruto and Sakura are capable of facing adversity together.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:11 AM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Jan 17 2013, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, maybe Sakura will need extra amounts of chakra in order to help Naruto in his fight but at the beginning has a difficult time absorbing it since it's a tremendous amount of power. Naruto worries while he sees her struggle to control it and then remembers how Mito advised Kushina about the importance of filling the vessel of the beast with love.

So Naruto decides to fill Sakura with his love by kissing her forehead as he keeps transferring chakra. That helps Sakura calm down and concentrate on controlling the extra power.


Canadian DJ was the one who pointed it out first, that's who you should give credit to. Now I love the cover page even more.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 12:50 PM

I wonder, if Sakura's love for Sasuke is meant to be so special to the point that they're meant to be together then why on earth is Ino portrayed to be on the same level? The first thing that came to mind when Ino thought of Sasuke in the latest chapter was how Sakura did the same in 540. And in both scenarios it implied their regretfulness of having those feelings.

It seems to me that their love for Sasuke was meant to be portrayed as something that they were eventually meant to overcome of in order to achieve their characters resolution.

Just saying.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 12:57 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Jan 19 2013, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wonder, if Sakura's love for Sasuke is meant to be so special to the point that they're meant to be together then why on earth is Ino portrayed to be on the same level? The first thing that came to mind when Ino thought of Sasuke in the latest chapter was how Sakura did the same in 540. And in both scenarios it implied their regretfulness of having those feelings.

It seems to me that their love for Sasuke was meant to be portrayed as something that they were eventually meant to overcome of in order to achieve their characters resolution.

Just saying.

Funny, i thought the same, also if sakura ends up with sasuke, what would ino say? laugh.gif

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 01:09 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Jan 19 2013, 09:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wonder, if Sakura's love for Sasuke is meant to be so special to the point that they're meant to be together then why on earth is Ino portrayed to be on the same level? The first thing that came to mind when Ino thought of Sasuke in the latest chapter was how Sakura did the same in 540. And in both scenarios it implied their regretfulness of having those feelings.

It seems to me that their love for Sasuke was meant to be portrayed as something that they were eventually meant to overcome of in order to achieve their characters resolution.

Just saying.

I disagree with you there, ino already got a resolution for her character after her father's death( you became a beautifull flower), and i didnt see her looking negatively at her love interest "Sasuke" the difference of Ino and Sakura is that Sakura know who Sasuke is and he's not a great guy or whatever, but ino still see Sasuke like he's still the same guy.
When it comes to Sasuke, Ino and Sakura are the same they only believed that Sasuke was evil when they see him, and i dont even think that she knows that Sasuke tried to kill Sakura two times.
Ino's character is already closed, she's strong and have her own determination, and value her friends.


i didnt see her looking negatively at Sasuke she was smilling and was even at her father's death.

There's nothing to Ino to overcome.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 19 January 2013 - 01:30 PM.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 01:57 PM

QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 18 2013, 11:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
More likely it would be Shikamaru, after all Shikaku gave him that job if his strategy fails.

You got me wrong. Sakura detected Zetsu, and Shikaku made a plan out of it. This may happen again. I never said she would make a strategy.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 02:06 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Jan 20 2013, 12:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I disagree with you there, ino already got a resolution for her character after her father's death( you became a beautifull flower), and i didnt see her looking negatively at her love interest "Sasuke" the difference of Ino and Sakura is that Sakura know who Sasuke is and he's not a great guy or whatever, but ino still see Sasuke like he's still the same guy.
When it comes to Sasuke, Ino and Sakura are the same they only believed that Sasuke was evil when they see him, and i dont even think that she knows that Sasuke tried to kill Sakura two times.
Ino's character is already closed, she's strong and have her own determination, and value her friends.


i didnt see her looking negatively at Sasuke she was smilling and was even at her father's death.

There's nothing to Ino to overcome.

Sakura and Ino IMO had the same level of feelings towards Sasuke. Ino, in the most recent chapter flashbacked to little Sasuke, not the current Sasuke because even though she knows Sasuke has gotten worse, she doesn't know the full extent of it. Sakura, during her attempt to kill Sasuke only flashed back to his genin days as well, meaning both Ino and Sakura had feelings for little Sasuke, not this maniacal villain.
Ino should know that Sasuke tried to kill Sakura twice but I because she wasn't actually there she wouldn't know the full context.
Well, I agree with you mostly, she wasn't looking at Sasuke negatively. Think about it like this.

Ino thought that period of time where she was infatuated with Sasuke was a learning phase, and she thanked 13 year old Sasuke for teaching her there are more important things than coolness.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 02:12 PM

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Jan 19 2013, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sakura and Ino IMO had the same level of feelings towards Sasuke. Ino, in the most recent chapter flashbacked to little Sasuke, not the current Sasuke because even though she knows Sasuke has gotten worse, she doesn't know the full extent of it. Sakura, during her attempt to kill Sasuke only flashed back to his genin days as well, meaning both Ino and Sakura had feelings for little Sasuke, not this maniacal villain.
Ino should know that Sasuke tried to kill Sakura twice but I because she wasn't actually there she wouldn't know the full context.
Well, I agree with you mostly, she wasn't looking at Sasuke negatively. Think about it like this.

Ino thought that period of time where she was infatuated with Sasuke was a learning phase, and she thanked 13 year old Sasuke for teaching her there are more important things than coolness.

540 shows Sasuke as what he is, in the attempt she thought about him as the "little Sasuke" but this changed and she thinks about him as what he's now "540" enforces it, Ino still thinks about Sasuke as the "little Sasuke".
Just to complete this thought.

I think for Sakura it opened the path for her to "move on" from Sasuke while Ino still love Sasuke and will stop only when he do something bad for her.

Ino's characters is already closed and even her father states this.

And the bolded one, i hope she knows but i dont think she knows about this.

And what her father says, is that love is not enough to be happy because what's more important than this type of love is her love for her friends.

Just ot finish

Sakura knows what Sasuke really is, even that little Sasuke she now knows that he was like that all along, that deep inside he was evil.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 19 January 2013 - 02:15 PM.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 02:13 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 19 2013, 08:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You got me wrong. Sakura detected Zetsu, and Shikaku made a plan out of it. This may happen again. I never said she would make a strategy.


True but I still think that it would most likely be Shikamaru who notices any weaknesses, seeing as how he's been the one to do so every other time he was involved in battle.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 02:18 PM

Ino knows what Sasuke truly is now. She doesn't like Sasuke like she used to.

By ch.616, it seems that she still have some feelings for him but not like before and she questions this when she remembers Sasuke.
This shows us that she's in the process of moving on but Sakura is already ahead of her.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 02:20 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Jan 19 2013, 11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ino knows that Sasuke that is not the same little Sasuke. She doesn't like Sasuke like she used to.

By ch.616, it seems that she still have some feelings for him but not like before and she questions this when she remembers Sasuke.
This shows us that she's in the process of moving on but Sakura is already ahead of her.

I dont think so. deep inside she refuses to believe, Sakura was the same as this state but she only knew that Sasuke wasnt the same when she saw him and he tried to kill her twice.
The question that she made is about if this "love" is enough.
Her father replies that her love for her friends is more important.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 02:46 PM

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Jan 19 2013, 02:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, the 616 thread would have 100 pages by now.



QUOTE (neoshadow @ Jan 19 2013, 02:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If Hinata was on the cover then it would give those saying that she has taken the position of heroine from Sakura a very real leg to stand on.
Also as Chucky-kun said the 616 thread would be a mess.



QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Jan 19 2013, 02:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
biggrin.gif freak out a little.

Lol. Yeah, to be honest, I don't think even I can't defend it. It would have been "Ah crap..." moment. Luckily, that didn't happen at all. So at least we got that cover. That's a relief. Sheesh, Sakura is sure getting those color pages more than Hinata. The only to have her in there is if K11 is involved (bath, AU!)

About Ino, well I don't know. Maybe I should read into it more when I get the most proper translation, but yeah, her friends are what matters the most. I don't know if Kishi would go that deep for her but I feel like that's going to used on Sakura because the thing about her is that she has two leads, unlike Ino who don't have any lead. Like she drops Sasuke and then got to search for a new guy, while Sakura can drop him and Naruto is already on radar. That's not to say he's second place, but she will think that Naruto is the more suitable guy than Sasuke. That way there's no second place, rather a true gold. Ino leaving Sasuke could come from her dad, but for Sakura, it could from Naruto if/when she realizes that she loves him.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 02:52 PM

QUOTE (Tsubaki @ Jan 19 2013, 02:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes! this cover couldn't have come at a better time, it clearly showed again to the readers who is the heroine of the story and the fact that she didn't appear with the others in this chapter

... could means that something big will happen to her /for some reason my post didn't appear entirely mellow.gif

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Jan 19 2013, 05:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree.

You know, what would happen if Hinata was on that cover? How would we all react to it?



QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Jan 19 2013, 05:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
biggrin.gif freak out a little.


More like freak out a lot laugh.gif

if she had appeared in this cover, she would be equaled with the protagonists and I would be really scared with it. (It would be like that shippuden ending that Pierrot put Hinata in a "Team 7 ending" ....That was weird!) .... but for some reason Kishi avoided giving a color page or a cover to NH, I have to say I was expecting that, but I was happily surprised with a team 7 cover! cool.gif

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