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[Tsubaki]

Disappointed? That's not what I meant. I just want Kishi to make the heroine of this series to shine. And her genjutsu abilities haven't been touched on in ages, it's so irrelevant that it's gotten to the point where I don't even care about that ability anymore. Thnx Kishi.

Same here, I do want Kishi give her some moments to shine! she deserves it!

My faith that it will happen just increase more and more .. Come on, he gives an incredible moment for Hinata, Ino and etc. .. So why he wouldn't give an awesome moment to his heroine? I think her time to shine is coming, something big ... something to make her hates to shut up forever.

I shouldn't let my hopes so high but I can't help myself.

[T XD]

Same here, I do want Kishi give her some moments to shine! she deserves it!

My faith that it will happen just increase more and more .. Come on, he gives an incredible moment for Hinata, Ino and etc. .. So why he wouldn't give an awesome moment to his heroine? I think her time to shine is coming, something big ... something to make her hates to shut up forever.

I shouldn't let my hopes so high but I can't help myself.

Agree. Why would Sakura disappear in this chapter even when Naruto was given chakra to everyone ? and not just her, there's also Sai and Kakashi.

I think their turn are in the next chapter or so.

[sushi.]

Possible heroic scenarios for Sakura:
- Get summoned by Katsuyu, or fly with Sai to save the Kages.
- If the moon eye plan actually arrives, I see her genjutsu skills come into action. Seriously, I would lose a lot of my respect for Kishi if all this foreshadowing actually was for nothing. And genjutsu is not a very common thing outside of Uchihas, so she and Kakashi may cooperate.
- Figure out a weakness of Obito/Madara/Juubi, honestly this girl can analyze weakpoints..she analyzed Sasori's fingermoves, and Zetsu! XD
- Summon Katsuyu and heal crowds of people.
- Have no idea how, but protect the one she loves, Chiyo's words. :3 Or maybe after the fight between Sasuke and Naruto, Sakura may protect Naruto from team Taka+Orochimaru while he's uncoscious? She can't take all of them, maybe Sai and Kakashi will join. And I don't see why they would be interested in killing Naruto, since it's between Naruto and Sasuke. Just a twisted, yet low possibility

Hmm...quite a few ideas. This is what I can come up with now, it's probably more.

Edited by sushi., 18 January 2013 - 10:20 PM.

[六道仙人]

What if Sakura will be the last one to blowing the Juubi with her great phisical power? If she gets chakra from Naruto, she would the right power justo to destroy the entire world xD

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Possible heroic scenarios for Sakura:
- Get summoned by Katsuyu, or fly with Sai to save the Kages.
- If the moon eye plan actually arrives, I see her genjutsu skills come into action. Seriously, I would lose a lot of my respect for Kishi if all this foreshadowing actually was for nothing. And genjutsu is not a very common thing outside of Uchihas, so she and Kakashi may cooperate.
- Figure out a weakness of Obito/Madara/Juubi, honestly this girl can analyze weakpoints..she analyzed Sasori's fingermoves, and Zetsu! XD
- Summon Katsuyu and heal crowds of people.
- Have no idea how, but protect the one she loves, Chiyo's words. :3 Or maybe after the fight between Sasuke and Naruto, Sakura may protect Naruto from team Taka+Orochimaru while he's uncoscious? She can't take all of them, maybe Sai and Kakashi will join. And I don't see why they would be interested in killing Naruto, since it's between Naruto and Sasuke. Just a twisted, yet low possibility

Hmm...quite a few ideas. This is what I can come up with now, it's probably more.

I expect her fighting alongside Naruto for once.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 18 January 2013 - 10:30 PM.

[sushi.]

I expect her fighting alongside Naruto for once.

Yeah. I forgot that. Last time I saw real teamwork between them was the second bell test! I think it will come true as well, cuz she said she would fight with Naruto.

[Jake]

Possible heroic scenarios for Sakura:
- Get summoned by Katsuyu, or fly with Sai to save the Kages.

Doubt it because

1. no threat and
2. Tsunade summoned Katsuyu to heal the other Kages

- If the moon eye plan actually arrives, I see her genjutsu skills come into action. Seriously, I would lose a lot of my respect for Kishi if all this foreshadowing actually was for nothing. And genjutsu is not a very common thing outside of Uchihas, so she and Kakashi may cooperate.

Doubt this to because even though Sakura is a genjutsu type, the Infinite Tsukuyomi is a genjutsu from the Mangekyo Sharingan which makes it harder to brake (look at Kakashi when Itachi trapped him in just the basic Tsukuyomi) add to that that the Infinite Tsukuyomi will be fueled by the Juubi's chakra so it will be even harder to brake.

- Figure out a weakness of Obito/Madara/Juubi, honestly this girl can analyze weakpoints..she analyzed Sasori's fingermoves, and Zetsu! XD

More likely it would be Shikamaru, after all Shikaku gave him that job if his strategy fails.

- Summon Katsuyu and heal crowds of people.

This is the most likely to happen but the only way she could do so is with a chakra transfer from Naruto, otherwise she wouldn't have enough chakra.

- Have no idea how, but protect the one she loves, Chiyo's words. :3 Or maybe after the fight between Sasuke and Naruto, Sakura may protect Naruto from team Taka+Orochimaru while he's uncoscious? She can't take all of them, maybe Sai and Kakashi will join. And I don't see why they would be interested in killing Naruto, since it's between Naruto and Sasuke. Just a twisted, yet low possibility

Plus chances are that Naruto and Sasuke's fight will be the last fight of the manga.

[luffyq1]

Same here, I do want Kishi give her some moments to shine! she deserves it!

My faith that it will happen just increase more and more .. Come on, he gives an incredible moment for Hinata, Ino and etc. .. So why he wouldn't give an awesome moment to his heroine? I think her time to shine is coming, something big ... something to make her hates to shut up forever.

I shouldn't let my hopes so high but I can't help myself.

Love the sig & avatar.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Same here, I do want Kishi give her some moments to shine! she deserves it!

My faith that it will happen just increase more and more .. Come on, he gives an incredible moment for Hinata, Ino and etc. .. So why he wouldn't give an awesome moment to his heroine? I think her time to shine is coming, something big ... something to make her hates to shut up forever.

I shouldn't let my hopes so high but I can't help myself.

Nice sig and avatar.

The possibility is endless but Kishi must choose one. Funny, back then, we kept having possibilities that Kishi will do to make NH the main pairing after 615 but he went to the other route. I guess we got carried away. Now for this one, phew, I don't know what will he come up with. One thing for sure is that he is true to his words: Sakura is a heroine. End of story. That made me feel good, so now, we are waiting for "that" moment.

[Don-kun]

Thanks for the reality check Jake.

What's up with all these wild speculation, I swear some of these stuff song like those fanfic speculation from the NH fandom.
The two most popular one are, Son and Moon fallow by Hinata helping Naruto to control Kurama to unlock his powers, or even Hinata unlocking golden Byakugan and along with Naruto the two of them manage to defeat the Juuibi, Madara and Tobi.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Thanks for the reality check Jake.

What's up with all these wild speculation, I swear some of these stuff song like those fanfic speculation from the NH fandom.
The two most popular one are, Son and Moon fallow by Hinata helping Naruto to control Kurama to unlock his powers, or even Hinata unlocking golden Byakugan and along with Naruto the two of them manage to defeat the Juuibi, Madara and Tobi.

I don't know, I was just having fun. We got a week to wait and perhaps we get the feeling like how NH fans felt after 615. Thinking the possibility of them. I actually thought working together would happen but nope. That's reserved. Anyway, we are just having fun. If one of them actually happens, then lol but yeah. You know, I want Kuruma to talk to Sakura. I don't know why, but a apology would be nice since he did hurt her. Naruto could force it. I don't know, I'm just throwing out there ideas.

[swagosaurus]

Think about it this way; Hinata's monologue in 573 came true, literally. Sakura's probably will as well.

[Don-kun]

Think about it this way; Hinata's monologue in 573 came true, literally. Sakura's probably will as well.

For other Naruto and Sakura will never have any interaction again, they will just keep avoiding each other and never be close again.
People just refuse to accept that there is still an pending resolution between Naruto and Sakura and the ones that knows this are wishing for Sakura to die or only get focus with Sasuke and no one else.

[Chatte]

For other Naruto and Sakura will never have any interaction again, they will just keep avoiding each other and never be close again.
People just refuse to accept that there is still an pending resolution between Naruto and Sakura and the ones that knows this are wishing for Sakura to die or only get focus with Sasuke and no one else.

This is so true. Maan, you don't wanna know the amount of threads that started to look for some special NH interactions ever since 616 came out, that basically confirmed our supposition and didn't make NH cannon.
I avoid those threads now, to be honest, though I know I could easily dismiss any of their proof. But unfortunately, you don't have with whom to talk... they just deny every evidence that shows them NH isn't as special as they think it is and NS has more development and other stuff that indicate romantic implications.

[swagosaurus]

I don't know if it's just biased, blunt denial on my part or common sense, but I seriously cannot see NH/SS being canon. For some reason, it just doesn't feel like it fits the manga or Kishi's style. He clearly has a love for Tsunderes, and Hinata isn't one of those (neither is Sakura when it pertains to Sasuke).

I dunno, man. I just don't feel those ships even have a chance of becoming canon. Kishi said that the RtN movie, a film that was literally filled with shipping moments/fan service, has hints towards the future of the manga. It could be a reach, but doesn't the wilting rose symbol for Sakura's love for Sasuke seem a little too specific? Same with Naruto's blatant lack of caring for Hinata's alternate, tsundere and aggressive personality.

If the movie was just a tease for NS fans, then why would he make those events happen? If it was a last hurrah for us, as some NH/SS fans are saying, then why would he just shut down both of those ships in the movie? Usually in movies/the anime, they don't have concrete, solid pairing moments. They just have small teases/implications. I'm probably the only one who really paid attention to it, but the fact that Kishi put a wilting rose in the movie as a metaphor for the SS ship means a great deal.

Edited by swagosaurus, 19 January 2013 - 02:42 AM.

[Chatte]

I don't know if it's just biased, blunt denial on my part or common sense, but I seriously cannot see NH/SS being canon. For some reason, it just doesn't feel like it fits the manga or Kishi's style. He clearly has a love for Tsunderes, and Hinata isn't one of those (neither is Sakura when it pertains to Sasuke).

I dunno, man. I just don't feel those ships even have a chance of becoming canon. Kishi said that the RtN movie, a film that was literally filled with shipping moments/fan service, has hints towards the future of the manga. It could be a reach, but doesn't the wilting rose symbol for Sakura's love for Sasuke seem a little too specific? Same with Naruto's blatant lack of caring for Hinata's alternate, tsundere and aggressive personality.

If the movie was just a tease for NS fans, then why would he make those events happen? If it was a last hurrah for us, as some NH/SS fans are saying, then why would he just shut down both of those ships in the movie? Usually in movies/the anime, they don't have concrete, solid pairing moments. They just have small teases/implications. I'm probably the only one who really paid attention to it, but the fact that Kishi put a wilting rose in the movie as a metaphor for the SS ship means a great deal.

I totally agree with this.
And I was thinking. How would Kishi explain the OVA 2011 or Road to Ninja if Naruto would end up with Hinata? It's just very ... how should I say it, out of its place.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I don't know if it's just biased, blunt denial on my part or common sense, but I seriously cannot see NH/SS being canon. For some reason, it just doesn't feel like it fits the manga or Kishi's style. He clearly has a love for Tsunderes, and Hinata isn't one of those (neither is Sakura when it pertains to Sasuke).

I dunno, man. I just don't feel those ships even have a chance of becoming canon. Kishi said that the RtN movie, a film that was literally filled with shipping moments/fan service, has hints towards the future of the manga. It could be a reach, but doesn't the wilting rose symbol for Sakura's love for Sasuke seem a little too specific? Same with Naruto's blatant lack of caring for Hinata's alternate, tsundere and aggressive personality.

If the movie was just a tease for NS fans, then why would he make those events happen? If it was a last hurrah for us, as some NH/SS fans are saying, then why would he just shut down both of those ships in the movie? Usually in movies/the anime, they don't have concrete, solid pairing moments. They just have small teases/implications. I'm probably the only one who really paid attention to it, but the fact that Kishi put a wilting rose in the movie as a metaphor for the SS ship means a great deal.

I don't blame you. It's like I said a long time ago: the damage is done. Anything else will be out of place and damaging to the series as a whole. That's why a lot of people thought chapter 615 was the first indication of him taking it to a whole new.

[swagosaurus]

I totally agree with this.
And I was thinking. How would Kishi explain the OVA 2011 or Road to Ninja if Naruto would end up with Hinata? It's just very ... how should I say it, out of its place.

Exactly. I'm usually nonbiased and understanding when it comes to this kind of stuff, but the transition from 615-616 just ruined any...how do I say it...respect for NH as a legit pairing. 615 was a HUGE moment for NH and Hinata; I mean, beyond NS huge. I was seriously worried that it actually was going to become canon. Hinata's wish came true, and Naruto instigated it.

But then, in 616, there's no follow-up to it. Naruto, once again, shows no romantic interest or lingering feelings towards her. He wasn't even holding her hand to be nice, or to thank her; it was just to give her chakra.

fuenafaeofnaoneoawfaff. I'm almost frustrated with how rustled I was over such an insignificant piece to the plot. It literally meant nothing when concerning Naruto's feelings. While that sounds harsh, it's the truth. This wasn't one of Kishi's usual ship-teases that are cute or whatever. This was a legit, pairing-deciding moment.

And nothing came from it.

[Zatheko]

I totally agree with this.
And I was thinking. How would Kishi explain the OVA 2011 or Road to Ninja if Naruto would end up with Hinata? It's just very ... how should I say it, out of its place.

NH would just make everything feel... awkward, all the wasted development, from the series and from the movies / ovas, would just make kishi look like a really bad writer IMO.

[Chatte]

Exactly. I'm usually nonbiased and understanding when it comes to this kind of stuff, but the transition from 615-616 just ruined any...how do I say it...respect for NH as a legit pairing. 615 was a HUGE moment for NH and Hinata; I mean, beyond NS huge. I was seriously worried that it actually was going to become canon. Hinata's wish came true, and Naruto instigated it.

But then, in 616, there's no follow-up to it. Naruto, once again, shows no romantic interest or lingering feelings towards her. He wasn't even holding her hand to be nice, or to thank her; it was just to give her chakra.

fuenafaeofnaoneoawfaff. I'm almost frustrated with how rustled I was over such an insignificant piece to the plot. It literally meant nothing when concerning Naruto's feelings. While that sounds harsh, it's the truth. This wasn't one of Kishi's usual ship-teases that are cute or whatever. This was a legit, pairing-deciding moment.

And nothing came from it.

Exactly.
This is what makes me think that if it wasn't for the chakra transfer... He would've just dropped her hand and thanked her, not keep it.
I swear Kishi is a genius at mocking us, at least, lol.

NH would just make everything feel... awkward, all the wasted development, from the series and from the movies / ovas, would just make kishi look like a really bad writer IMO.

Exactly! And every person with basic comprehension would see that. Don't want to be rude towards NH fans or anti NS, but really, if you look it overall, it wouldn't fit.
Why have her on the covers with him, why on the movies all those hints, why so many other things if he would plan to make Hinata be with him and Sakura with Sasuke?
If it would have been development on both sides, see Naruto twisted over what to do best, such as worried if he feels something for Hinata but he wouldn't want to hurt Sakura or viceversa, some internal conflict regarding this, I'd be worried.
Yet, I am not.
Gladly, I took 615 quite calm. Probably because I was home, out of internet reach. Just from my phone here and there, so I was let's say, covered by all this madness.

Funny enough, when I talk to some about Sakura's development, everyone says that's too late, yet when it comes to NH they consider it not to tale, when I tell them it is too late to develop a pairing now? Whereas, with power-ups, it's so different.
You can always have them off-panel. Hell, some Sakura skills were off-panel, so I wouldn't be amazed if something like this happens now.
Yet, with romance is totally different!

Edited by Chatte, 19 January 2013 - 03:48 AM.