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#8621 Chatte

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:33 PM

Well the "I'm gonna stop chasing for you once and for all" has to happen... probably that will be her feelings resolution.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:33 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Jan 17 2013, 09:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not sure. I personally think that her feelings need to be resolved, in realizing that naruto loves sakura by herself or naruto rejecting her. Some people say that theres a possibility tat she will be fully ignored from now but i think a character with such a huge fanbase just needs a resolve for her feelings. Well see, maybe that happens in this arc, if naruto has some romantic contact with sakura.

The thing is that Kishi has lately shows that he doesn't really see anything fitting for Hinata's love life. I think the least he can do is bring it up, but not replacing Sakura at all. I do think in his mind, he only sees Team 7 love triangle and nothing else. Hinata is getting these developments for herself, as same can be said for others (Shikamaru, Ino). If Hinata sees a repeat from chapter 450, then she is done. Otherwise, it depends.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:43 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Jan 17 2013, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The thing is that Kishi has lately shows that he doesn't really see anything fitting for Hinata's love life. I think the least he can do is bring it up, but not replacing Sakura at all. I do think in his mind, he only sees Team 7 love triangle and nothing else. Hinata is getting these developments for herself, as same can be said for others (Shikamaru, Ino). If Hinata sees a repeat from chapter 450, then she is done. Otherwise, it depends.

Yeah of course. Hinata has no need to be paired or something like that, i just think it would be nice to see her feelings resolved so she can move on. I mean she even confessed to naruto. I dont think it would be good writing to just ingnore all that and leave her character unresolved.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:47 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 17 2013, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Think hard, and I mean really hard. Do you see further development of Hinata's character now? Do you think her character is officially done?


almost done, she needs the definitive conclusion for herself: Getting or not Naruto. It all depends from Naruto. But if we knows very him, well we would already know naruto's response...

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:47 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Jan 17 2013, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah of course. Hinata has no need to be paired or something like that, i just think it would be nice to see her feelings resolved so she can move on. I mean she even confessed to naruto. I dont think it would be good writing to just ingnore all that and leave her character unresolved.

I know. Just be warned that there's a good chance that Kishi will brush it off and act like a fanservice moment. Side characters don't get that much opportunity. If there's no resolve, then oh well.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:49 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Jan 17 2013, 11:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah of course. Hinata has no need to be paired or something like that, i just think it would be nice to see her feelings resolved so she can move on. I mean she even confessed to naruto. I dont think it would be good writing to just ingnore all that and leave her character unresolved.


Nope it's bad writing if he starts pairing everyone, he does not need to resolver Hinata's feelings, because Naruto give her no reasons for her to stop loving him, If Naruto loves Sakura, there's nothing she can do, she may be happy because Naruto is happy but it's not something that you need to focus on Hinata, she's a side character, it's the same with Naruto, if Sakura ends up with the emo guy, Naruto will still love Sakura no matter what, and this is bad because he will suffer, Naruto's feelings for Sakura will not vanish.
With Sakura is different, Sasuke give her a lot of reasons for her to give up on her painful love for him, and her loves is not strong as before, and she showed feelings for Naruto, Sakura's case is different than Hinata's.


Who needs to be resolved is Sakura not Hinata.
Ino loves Sasuke and this wont change.

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 17 2013, 11:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Think hard, and I mean really hard. Do you see further development of Hinata's character now? Do you think her character is officially done?

Yes, Hinata does not need any confidence boosts from Naruto, she showed that does not need him on terms of "cheer up", for me her development is done.
A lot of people says that "she has to get rid" of the "all for Naruto" but i doubt he will change that.
She will never surpass Neji in terms of strength, and on 573 she already said that would stop trying to become stronger when she said "i'll stop chasing you".
She already accepted what she is and her "power level".

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:58 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Jan 17 2013, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nope it's bad writing if he starts pairing everyone, he does not need to resolver Hinata's feelings, because Naruto give her no reasons for her to stop loving him, If Naruto loves Sakura, there's nothing she can do, she may be happy because Naruto is happy but it's not something that you need to focus on Hinata, she's a side character, it's the same with Naruto, if Sakura ends up with the emo guy, Naruto will still love Sakura no matter what, and this is bad because he will suffer, Naruto's feelings for Sakura will not vanish.
With Sakura is different, Sasuke give her a lot of reasons for her to give up on her painful love for him, and her loves is not strong as before, and she showed feelings for Naruto, Sakura's case is different than Hinata's.


Who needs to be resolved is Sakura not Hinata.
Ino loves Sasuke and this wont change.

Yeah i know, youre right but i ment something different.
I wanted to say that it wouldnt be good to just forget hinata from now. Kishi should at least show her realizing that naruto loves someone else. I wasnt saying that everybody needs to be paired up, i also think that would be bad.
I mean even if she will be totally ignored from now on i wouldnt mind, but i think it would be fair to show it for the hinata fans.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:48 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Jan 17 2013, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not sure. I personally think that her feelings need to be resolved, in realizing that naruto loves sakura by herself or naruto rejecting her. Some people say that theres a possibility tat she will be fully ignored from now but i think a character with such a huge fanbase just needs a resolve for her feelings. Well see, maybe that happens in this arc, if naruto has some romantic contact with sakura.


Agreed. It would be unsettling to have her feelings ignored, especially since it's the basis of her character.

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Jan 17 2013, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Depends. Mangaka usually ignore the side character after the development. If Hinata doesn't find out Naruto's love or Kishi just say screw it and let it be done, then yes, she is done.

As much as I would love for that to happen, I don't think that's a possibility. Her feelings for Naruto are pretty much the driving force of her character.

QUOTE (kirabook @ Jan 17 2013, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can't see any more pairing advancement for Hinata, but there is plenty of opportunity for her to grow more as a character and learn to stand on her own feet. (Obviously she's well on her way to that)


I think she's already reached that point. This chapter and the previous one showed that she does have a back bone, even though it took Neji's death for it to really be shown facepalm.png But I think this time it's going to be permanent. She only can grow a pair when it's a dire situation and Naruto is involved in some way, shape, or form. She regressed after her confession, which was shown in 558 - 559. But this time I think it's officially here.

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 17 2013, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well the "I'm gonna stop chasing for you once and for all" has to happen... probably that will be her feelings resolution.


Agreed. Just as she said she wants to hold his hand, I believe that quoted part of your post will come to fruition as well. I love the fact that Kishi came up with a way to make Hinata's claim of "holding hands" with Naruto to have a tactical meaning behind it. It all started with Kurama giving Kakashi chakra. Very smart, Kishi.

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Jan 17 2013, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
almost done, she needs the definitive conclusion for herself: Getting or not Naruto. It all depends from Naruto. But if we knows very him, well we would already know naruto's response...


Yep. Based on Naruto's character, it's pretty obvious he isn't changing. 616 chapters later and we still haven't seen anything slightly hinting that Naruto has romantic feelings for Hinata.


P.S. Am I the only one who laughed at Lee when he was crying in that panel? LOL, too funny


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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:54 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 17 2013, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agreed. Just as she said she wants to hold his hand, I believe that quoted part of your post will come to fruition as well. I love the fact that Kishi came up with a way to make Hinata's claim of "holding hands" with Naruto to have a tactical meaning behind it. It all started with Kurama giving Kakashi chakra. Very smart, Kishi.[/img]


Man, sometimes Kishi amazes me, really. We all expected romance, yet is tactical.
What if Sakura's thoughts in 573 who seem to be tactical, will be turned, in the end, romantic? fu.png
Oh, you, Kishi! th_7eyytubokky7rehok1k.gif

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:59 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 17 2013, 10:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Man, sometimes Kishi amazes me, really. We all expected romance, yet is tactical.
What if Sakura's thoughts in 573 who seem to be tactical, will be turned, in the end, romantic? fu.png
Oh, you, Kishi! th_7eyytubokky7rehok1k.gif

That will be incredibly middle finger to NH, especially now. I remember someone said what if Naruto kiss her on her forehead to transfer chakra. That will be...wow... laugh.gif Of course it won't happen, but we can always dream.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 04:07 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Jan 17 2013, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That will be incredibly middle finger to NH, especially now. I remember someone said what if Naruto kiss her on her forehead to transfer chakra. That will be...wow... laugh.gif Of course it won't happen, but we can always dream.


lol I said that on NF biggrin.gif

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 04:07 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Jan 17 2013, 03:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That will be incredibly middle finger to NH, especially now. I remember someone said what if Naruto kiss her on her forehead to transfer chakra. That will be...wow... laugh.gif Of course it won't happen, but we can always dream.

Hah, that'd be nice, however, it's only a dream... sad.gif
But what if dreams will come true? biggrin.gif

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 17 2013, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
lol I said that on NF biggrin.gif


Oh, you bad, bad luffy! tongue.gif

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 04:13 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 17 2013, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
lol I said that on NF biggrin.gif

Lol oh should I have known. tongue.gif

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:19 PM

I had a very intriguing thought regarding the cover, As it was explained by a respected user on the chapter discussion thread Sakura's weapon is a support weapon, as compared to Naruto using full samurai swords, could it be since (according to research Samurai's wives used this and protected the home) Sakura travels back to Konoha when a message is sent it is under attack (most likely, its oro afterall) and Sakura goes to help mount a defensive there, it wuld totally tie in everything, from the picture to the symbolization


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Show me thy appearance...
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I am the ruler of the stars...
Aspect became complete...
Open thy malevolent gate.
O 88 Stars of the heaven...
Shine!

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:38 PM

OMG, trink!
Naruto and Sakura are actually there, not a scroll like Sasuke... And those are Samurai costumes. And Sakura's costume resembles Samurai wives.
And there's only Naruto and Sakura there, Sasuke's a scroll... Husband and wife? biggrin.gif

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:40 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 17 2013, 12:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OMG, trink!
Naruto and Sakura are actually there, not a scroll like Sasuke... And those are Samurai costumes. And Sakura's costume resembles Samurai wives.
And there's only Naruto and Sakura there, Sasuke's a scroll... Husband and wife? biggrin.gif

You just found out now? Lol. I did find out late too and I believe redragon88 pointed it out for me. But yeah, how cool is that? Someone should just edit the picture and have Naruto and Sakura side-by-side.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:45 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Jan 17 2013, 05:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You just found out now? Lol. I did find out late too and I believe redragon88 pointed it out for me. But yeah, how cool is that? Someone should just edit the picture and have Naruto and Sakura side-by-side.

AH, the scroll Sasuke I know.. But trink at Sakura and Naruto husband and wife thingie... th_7eyytubokky7rehok1k.gif

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:50 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 17 2013, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hah, that'd be nice, however, it's only a dream... sad.gif
But what if dreams will come true? biggrin.gif

Well, maybe Sakura will need extra amounts of chakra in order to help Naruto in his fight but at the beginning has a difficult time absorbing it since it's a tremendous amount of power. Naruto worries while he sees her struggle to control it and then remembers how Mito advised Kushina about the importance of filling the vessel of the beast with love.

So Naruto decides to fill Sakura with his love by kissing her forehead as he keeps transferring chakra. That helps Sakura calm down and concentrate on controlling the extra power.

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You just found out now? Lol. I did find out late too and I believe redragon88 pointed it out for me. But yeah, how cool is that? Someone should just edit the picture and have Naruto and Sakura side-by-side.

Canadian DJ was the one who pointed it out first, that's who you should give credit to. Now I love the cover page even more.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:52 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 17 2013, 12:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
AH, the scroll Sasuke I know.. But trink at Sakura and Naruto husband and wife thingie... th_7eyytubokky7rehok1k.gif

That's why I want a edited picture of them side-by-side as a sig. I may want to take that. Someone could also edit that latest ending with the eye. Yes, what a week. Here's hoping soon we get to see NS. It's inevitable.

@redragon88: Oh ok. Thank you, Canadian DJ. smile.gif

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 06:17 PM

I just want Sakura to do something badass without needing Naruto's chakra in order to accomplish it. That'd definitely separate her from the rest of the group. I'd be ok if she does receive chakra, but only after she shows an incredible feat.

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