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[Fenris]

Honestly, I don't understand how NaruHina = emotional sense. What the hell?

If I relied on emotional sense for debates and canon fodder, my top ten crack pairings, pairings in general, or just crossovers would all be canon by now.


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Fyi,
they're not.

[CloudMountainJuror]

Honestly, I don't understand how NaruHina = emotional sense. What the hell?

*shrugs* I'm guessing that they just personally feel like NaruHina is the best pairing... without considering logic.

[FoolishYoungling]

*shrugs* I'm guessing that they just personally feel like NaruHina is the best pairing... without considering logic.

[Fenris]

*shrugs* I'm guessing that they just personally feel like NaruHina is the best pairing... without considering logic.

It doesn't even take knowing logic to know that Naruto is attracted and in love with Sakura, though. It's just common sense. Kishi has stressed this over and over. (Naruto asking Sakura on dates (A bit after the first Shippuden Sasuke re-meeting) + Chapter 3 and all of it's scenarios + Literally every thing else.) Even a blind person could see this. It's not that hard to figure out I don't know why they, erm... continue to wage that war on.

Edited by Fenris, 25 February 2012 - 12:41 AM.

[Darth Krypt]

NH fans are Hinata fans. When they saw this character is head over heels for the main character, they started rooting for this pairing. At that moment NS ain't really feasible to be honest so they have been holding that mentality for a few years. Once NS points become more clear after the timeskip, they just turn a blind eye because converting your beliefs is very hard so they just deny any NS moment and still support their pairing.

[FoolishYoungling]

NH fans are Hinata fans. When they saw this character is head over heels for the main character, they started rooting for this pairing. At that moment NS ain't really feasible to be honest so they have been holding that mentality for a few years. Once NS points become more clear after the timeskip, they just turn a blind eye because converting your beliefs is very hard so they just deny any NS moment and still support their pairing.

Or they just bring in a small filler moment to try to reverse it.

[God of All Shinobi]

ROFL is that really what he said "evidence is hidden"

Wow what a big discovery, since when was evidence not hidden hm?, If it was n't the police would have a way easier job.

But anyway away from that I wanted to show everyone here something I found, I don't know if anyone has posted it before but here it is

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Narutomaki

Naruto was actually named after this and if you look closely you can see where Kishimoto actually came with Naruto's image from, the blonde hair is like the colour (it can be yellow as well) the spiky hair is like the shape, but look at the center. Its pink, anyone we know who has pink hair. Perhaps Sakura was conceived from the same place and since cherry blossoms are very common in japan, but hold great significance Kishimoto created Sakura as the heroine and possibly Naruto's future wife because look how they come together. Here is a better pic.

http://www.google.co...k...tx=85&ty=94


what are your views

[dfammer]

ROFL is that really what he said "evidence is hidden"

Wow what a big discovery, since when was evidence not hidden hm?, If it was n't the police would have a way easier job.

But anyway away from that I wanted to show everyone here something I found, I don't know if anyone has posted it before but here it is

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Narutomaki

Naruto was actually named after this and if you look closely you can see where Kishimoto actually came with Naruto's image from, the blonde hair is like the colour (it can be yellow as well) the spiky hair is like the shape, but look at the center. Its pink, anyone we know who has pink hair. Perhaps Sakura was conceived from the same place and since cherry blossoms are very common in japan, but hold great significance Kishimoto created Sakura as the heroine and possibly Naruto's future wife because look how they come together. Here is a better pic.

http://www.google.co...k...tx=85&ty=94


what are your views

looks great! Bet it tast good:)

Edited by dfammer, 25 February 2012 - 01:02 PM.

[sushi.]

^Now that is hidden evidence.

I feel like Hinata's love for Naruto is too...free. Like they have nothing to work with, nothing worth it. Even though NS doesn't always agree with eachother, they always got eachothers backs, and they're selfless. NH have nothing to build on, there is no base on that bond. And Naruto is too much of an honest character to ship with Hinata when he still likes Sakura, he'll never do that to Hinata. Also, NS compliment eachother, they make eachother better shinobi. I can imagine the future of Rokudaime and the head medic! Hinata can go end up with Kiba, if her clan allow her to.

[4000TMNT]

If NaruHina happen(which I think it wont) and if Naruto redeems Sasuke. What was the point of Sakura's character and her relationship with Naruto. What would be her development in the series. It just don't add up at all, that is some of the reason why I think NaruHina won't happen and NaruSaku will. Come on, if you walk up to Kishi and ask him a honest question about who is currently the most romantic development paring you wit en in the series, what paring do you think he is going to say.

[Minori]

^Now that is hidden evidence.

I feel like Hinata's love for Naruto is too...free. Like they have nothing to work with, nothing worth it. Even though NS doesn't always agree with eachother, they always got eachothers backs, and they're selfless. NH have nothing to build on, there is no base on that bond. And Naruto is too much of an honest character to ship with Hinata when he still likes Sakura, he'll never do that to Hinata. Also, NS compliment eachother, they make eachother better shinobi. I can imagine the future of Rokudaime and the head medic! Hinata can go end up with Kiba, if her clan allow her to.

Yeah, I feel the same way.

I'm 99,9% sure this won't happen, but even if Naruto won't end up with Sakura (for whatever reason, like her death {oh no, this definitely won't happen}) I still don't think he will end up with Hinata, or some other girl. I'm talking about JiraTsu scenario. I bet Naru will never stop loving Saku, and just won't be able to have a serious relationship with another woman (that way he will only hurt himself and that other girl, and Naru's not the kind of person who can do such a thing).

Edited by Minori, 25 February 2012 - 03:17 PM.

[Shadow Wolf]

Or they just bring in a small filler moment to try to reverse it.

But we has moar NS fillers, mwahahahahahahaha

ROFL is that really what he said "evidence is hidden"

Wow what a big discovery, since when was evidence not hidden hm?, If it was n't the police would have a way easier job.

But anyway away from that I wanted to show everyone here something I found, I don't know if anyone has posted it before but here it is

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Narutomaki

Naruto was actually named after this and if you look closely you can see where Kishimoto actually came with Naruto's image from, the blonde hair is like the colour (it can be yellow as well) the spiky hair is like the shape, but look at the center. Its pink, anyone we know who has pink hair. Perhaps Sakura was conceived from the same place and since cherry blossoms are very common in japan, but hold great significance Kishimoto created Sakura as the heroine and possibly Naruto's future wife because look how they come together. Here is a better pic.

http://www.google.co...k...tx=85&ty=94


what are your views

O_O!!!

.....I'm hungry! XD

I'm 99,9% sure this won't happen, but even if Naruto won't end up with Sakura (for whatever reason, like her death {oh no, this definitely won't happen}) I still don't think he will end up with Hinata, or some other girl. I'm talking about JiraTsu scenario. I bet Naru will never stop loving Saku, and just won't be able to have a serious relationship with another woman (that way he will only hurt himself and that other girl, and Naru's not the kind of person who can do such a thing).

I agree with you here. Naruto is not the kind of guy who would either give up or hurt someone. He felt bad when he hurt Sakura in his 4-tails form and he is determined to not hurt her again, so why would he hurt any other friend? (with the exception of Sasuke, of course)

[Fenris]

That symbol on the food reminds me of Sakura's clan symbol on her back.

[Minori]

That symbol on the food reminds me of Sakura's clan symbol on her back.

I guess that 'swirl' thing suits Uzumaki clan more. Uzumaki means swirl(s). I believe that's how Kishi came up with Naruto's surname.

[Fyuria'sLeo]

That symbol on the food reminds me of Sakura's clan symbol on her back.

But Sakura's symbol is a plain circle unlike the Uzumaki clans which is a swirl.

[narulsaku]

i actually do not think like that but i think it will be better narusaku . If i said somthing wrong please forgive me

[Former Captain]

This is what differentiates Naruto of Sasuke: Sasuke has both his mind and his emotions set on revenge (confirmed when he says that he chose to walk the path of darkness). So I have to disagree when you say that Naruto pulled a Sasuke in the fight against Pain.

I didn't say he pulled one, I said he started to pull one By this I mean that if the Kyuubi had taken over (as it was very, very close to doing), then Naruto's mind really wouldn't matter anymore, and for all intents and purposes he would be more powerful but a completely different person - putting him in a similar position to Sasuke, who has certainly gained the power he sought but at a heavy price (the person he was or, depending on how you view it, could have been).

Oh, and just in case, I have to add one more detail: The fact that he succumbed to his feelings after Hinata was "killed" does not mean he succumbed as an answer to her feelings. He was already angry over the deaths of Kakashi and Jiraiya and on top of that the seal has been weakening.

Of course. His succumbing was as an answer to seeing her die, not because she told him she loved him, but because she was a friend. Not to mention that he appreciates her growth from pre-Exams to afterward and as such was enraged to see someone, who'd been like him, go down. But not to her feelings, this is true.

I'm sure it's because of my lack of English skills, but I don't really understand what you are trying to say here. When has Naruto given up on something?

I probably should have said "given in". Shadow Wolf has a really excellent explanation about willpower in the post before yours that corrected me (thanks, SW).

And Naruto still wants to save Sasuke from revenge. There was a reason why Kishi didn't make Sasuke kill any of the rookie nines or Kakashi for that matter. Because, if Sasuke crosses that line then he is really irredeemable, wholly consumed by revenge. That is why Naruto wants Sasuke to take out all his hatred in the battle with himself, before he crosses the line. Or die with Sasuke and his chain of hatred. So Naruto isn't giving up on anything. His final battle with Sasuke is still to save him before it's too late.

Yes, he does. My point was that while he wants to save Sasuke, his belief that he will die with Sasuke runs against his core dream, and if he doesn't resolve this then he's a) going to become Hokage with Sasuke dead and by his admission feel unworthy, or b) he and Sasuke will die together, so he may be beloved and revered by the village but won't see his dream (and his parents', and Tsunade's brother's and lover's) fulfilled.

Knowing Kishi and the style of this story, Naruto will solve the problem, but I prefer to keep myself in suspense

And Shikamaru, Choji, Ino, Shino, Kiba, Neji, Tenten, and Lee. Just because, Hinata is on that list along with others doesn't make NH happen. If being on the list of people that gives him support, respect, and love is enough to be with Naruto then I think a NaruHarem is in order with more yaoi than het.

It doesn't, and I agree. (NH perspective: it doesn't mean the pairing is dead, either, and the counter here would include something about how Hinata was among the first to give him those things when everyone still thought he was a fool...well, only a fool, that is.)

When has Hinata had a code that she hates people who lie to themselves?

Naruto shares his Ninja Way with Hinata, because she admired it and took it as her own. That's what I was referring to. The fact that Naruto hates people who lie to themselves is a reflection of his Ninja Way -- "he'll never go back on his word" is easily comparable to not lying, not making false promises...basically being open, honest, forthright, they're all aspects of his Ninja Way. I didn't intend to imply that Naruto shares that exact trait with Hinata. Sorry if that's what you took.

Yeah, he said that he hates people who lie to themselves. But the state of the fact is that he still doesn't hate Sakura. If he doesn't hate Sakura herself, I'd have to think that he hated that certain part of her. And if he hates a certain part of somebody and calls out on it, I'm sure that he himself doesn't have that certain part himself, which is to lie to their self. So, even if Hinata has genuine thoughts and words, it will still be lying to himself if he were to date her just because she doesn't have a certain flaw. Therefore NH is dead.

As someone else stated and I also brought up, that particularly point was a stretch. I brought it up because it is readable from the panel - not the best by a very long shot, but not impossible.

NH as a canon couple does not exist. NH as a potential canon couple will die, so to speak, when Kishi says it does, which I anticipate being relatively soon despite the rather odd focus on Hinata recently (not focus, exactly, but panel-time). NH as a ship will never die. That's the way fandom works.

I think it is the other way around. If something has changed there has to be a panel indicating that. The accused is guilty unless proven otherwise. There is no panel indicating that Naruto doesn't love Sakura anymore, and Sakura's actions towards him doesn't act as proof of him changing his feelings. Just like Sasuke trying to kill Sakura, doesn't act as a proof of Sakura changing her feelings for Sasuke. Therefore, I believe it's natural to think that Naruto still loves her.

Agreed.

[redragon88]

ROFL is that really what he said "evidence is hidden"

Wow what a big discovery, since when was evidence not hidden hm?, If it was n't the police would have a way easier job.

But anyway away from that I wanted to show everyone here something I found, I don't know if anyone has posted it before but here it is

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Narutomaki

Naruto was actually named after this and if you look closely you can see where Kishimoto actually came with Naruto's image from, the blonde hair is like the colour (it can be yellow as well) the spiky hair is like the shape, but look at the center. Its pink, anyone we know who has pink hair. Perhaps Sakura was conceived from the same place and since cherry blossoms are very common in japan, but hold great significance Kishimoto created Sakura as the heroine and possibly Naruto's future wife because look how they come together. Here is a better pic.

http://www.google.co...k...tx=85&ty=94


what are your views

Wow my mind has been officially blown away. I don't care if people say I'm grasping at straw, than pink spiral is too huge of a deal for me to ignore. I'm actually staring to believe this is how Kishimoto decided to come up with Sakura as well.

I just keep having an image of Kishi as a young mangaka thinking of what other characters to add to his story besides Naruto while eating some Narutomaki when all of a sudden he notices the pink spiral. He has an eureka moment and decides that Naruto's love interest should have a pink theme since that color is part of the yellow Narutomaki that inspired him to create Naruto. Later on to make the pink theme more obvious he decides to give her pink hair and name her Sakura.

Now that I think about it, correct me if I'm wrong, but, isn't Sakura the only pink haired character in this series?

In the past few month I've heard that Kishimoto, although doesn't give Sakura much screen time, is very fond of her (as if she was his own daughter). To the point that he felt embarrassed to draw her in a bikini (which I think was for a special issue cover page of the magazine) so he changed her bottom to short pants to make it less revealing. I also heard the Oda (creator of the One piece manga) once commented that during Kishimoto's wedding his bride looked very much like Sakura. So I really think that Kishimoto hold a special place for that character even if she isn't part of the main action, so I think he has always wanted to give her a satisfying ending.

Edited by redragon88, 26 February 2012 - 04:17 AM.

[God of All Shinobi]

^ my reaction exactly, it would explain why Sakura was said "to have a unique look" by Kishimoto, to me this stuck out like hell. Screw Hinata completing Naruto, Sakura literally does complete him. Imo this is a big hint. But lets see what others think.

[narulsaku]

what are the chances of sakura falling in love with naruto and why