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#8581 T XD

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:32 PM

QUOTE (Atheck @ Jan 17 2013, 01:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ino is even more vain and hormonally delusional than they generalize Sakura as being. True she cries less frequently and she does have a KG but I still prefer Sakura to her. Perhaps it has to do with Sakura being one of only three K12 rookies who does not have a KG or an inherited chakra entity to exploit that makes me enjoy her more as a character. Well that and I like her personality more. Plus she just has that heroine/lead female "vibe" about her. I've heard some people suggest what it would be like if Tsunade had taken Ino as her apprentice instead of Sakura. Well for starters Ino is less intelligent than Sakura. The Databook confirms this with the intelligent stat. She would become an advanced medic, no doubt, but she wouldn't have the same potential as Sakura IMO since Sakura was naturally a genjutsu type who requires a high degree of analytical and intellectual ability. Secondly Ino's abilities and fighting style are supplementary in design. I can't help but think that learning and using Tsunade's super strength would conflict with that. Of course it could potentially help her in using Shintenshin for all we know. Well, I just don't like the concept and it wouldn't be the best choice to have as an apprentice going by the strengths and weaknesses of the kunoichi in the K12.

Yup, Sakura has more potential in genjutsu and abilities.
Yet, you have " Ino should have been the lead female role". I'll just stop here.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:33 PM

I wonder if Kishi will bring back that genjutsu potential he keeps talking about...

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:35 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Jan 17 2013, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yup, Sakura has more potential in genjutsu and abilities.
Yet, you have " Ino should have been the lead female role". I'll just stop here.

First hinata, then Ino, whose next? TENTEN!

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:39 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 16 2013, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I enjoyed reading your post about the heroine of the series on tumblr. Good kitten.

His reason was fairly ignorant. I think it was something along the lines of "Ino's flashback of Sakura says it all"

I don't agree with a lot of the stuff he spits out, but I am not offended. Because he does not shove NH up in my face all the time. (OK, maybe the last chapter XD). And he can admit when he is wrong, and I don't blame people for not liking Sakura when Kishi has been wasting her potential. I think that is about to change. But he said something that really caught me off guard. Ino has more potential than Sakura? ...No, I have nothing more to say.

Still, I obviously do respect the dude. tongue.gif

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:39 PM

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Jan 17 2013, 01:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
First hinata, then Ino, whose next? TENTEN!

You have read my mind.

Kurenai, too, will be among the candidates. Won't be surprised if I heard that fu.png

Edited by T XD, 16 January 2013 - 10:39 PM.


#8586 luffyq1

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:41 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 16 2013, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Heh, thanks! smile.gif
One it's Tricksie's though. smile.gif
But I just shared because that thing was just too badass biggrin.gif


Oh. Well I'm glad you shared it smile.gif

Would like to know your opinion on this. Do you think Naruto giving out chakra to everyone pretty much downgrades the NH hand moment? I'm already hearing arguments saying that Naruto only slapped the rest of the people's hand, while he clearly was holding Hinata's hand longer. But what about Shikamaru?

Edited by luffyq1, 16 January 2013 - 10:43 PM.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:46 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 16 2013, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh. Well I'm glad you shared it smile.gif

Would like to know your opinion on this. Do you think Naruto giving out chakra to everyone pretty much downgrades the NH hand moment? I'm already hearing arguments saying that Naruto only slapped the rest of the people's hand, while he clearly was holding Hinata's hand longer. But what about Shikamaru?


It was a romantic moment, and doesn't downplay it, but it definitely removes any romantic intention on Naruto's part. Once again. tongue.gif

He gave the main Ino-Shika-Cho more chakra (and held their hands longer) because they were the main practitioners of the plan; same with Hinata, I think.

Edited by swagosaurus, 16 January 2013 - 10:47 PM.



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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:48 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 16 2013, 11:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh. Well I'm glad you shared it smile.gif

Would like to know your opinion on this. Do you think Naruto giving out chakra to everyone pretty much downgrades the NH hand moment? I'm already hearing arguments saying that Naruto only slapped the rest of the people's hand, while he clearly was holding Hinata's hand longer. But what about Shikamaru?


Actually, it does downgrade from Naruto's part, not Hinata. Heh, it's always about Naruto.
Of course he held more the chakra because in one of the translations Kurama says sorry I had to keep you waiting this much or something like this.
But anyway, the thing is, with Shikamaru he did take his hand longer, to say like this.
That was drawn to show different sides of the same action.
Also, if you notice, he gives chakra to specific clans such as Ino-Shika-Chou as they were part of the plan.

Edited by Chatte, 16 January 2013 - 10:51 PM.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:49 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 16 2013, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I knew I would regret watching sawyer7mages Naruto review.

"Ino should have been the lead female role."

I rarely get pissed off, but this crap is something I can't ignore, seeing as I'm a devoted Sakura fan. mad.gif

Wow. I haven't watched his videos in years because he says things like this. That comment reinforces my decision to stay away from his channel. He's bias, but pretends he's not, and he likes to subtly attack NaruSaku/Sakura whenever he can. I don't understand why so many NaruSaku fans subscribe to him.

I prefer to watch TwilightLink21xx for chapter reviews. At least he doesn't attack Hinata and pretends he didn't. Plus he gives much more in-depth reviews, which I like. Sawyer, from what I remember, just summarizes the chapter (which is not a review) and inserts a joke here or there. huh.gif

Edited by Slextrem, 16 January 2013 - 10:59 PM.


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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:51 PM

At this point, how can it be called that gesture as a romantic thing if it was from the very beginning part of Shikaku's plan, in other words giving the kyuubi's chakra to everyone with the purpose to give them a great powerup...?


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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:55 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Jan 16 2013, 11:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
At this point, how can it be called that gesture as a romantic thing if it was from the very beginning part of Shikaku's plan, in other words giving the kyuubi's chakra to everyone with the purpose to give them a great powerup...?

Sawyer said Naruto didn't keed to hold Hinata's hand for such a long time. I'll give him that, but I honestly don't care because I am not worried about NS.

Edited by sushi., 16 January 2013 - 10:55 PM.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:56 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Jan 16 2013, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow. I haven't watched his videos in years because he says things like this. That comment reinforces my decision to stay away from his channel. He's bias, but pretends he's not, and he likes to subtly attack NaruSaku/Sakura whenever he can. I don't understand why so many NaruSaku fans subscribe to him.

I prefer to watch TwilightLink21xx for chapter reviews. At least he doesn't attack Hinata and pretends he didn't. Plus he gives much more in-depth reviews, which I like. Sawyer, from what I remember, just summarizes the chapter (which is not a review) and inserts a joke here or there. huh.gif


The bolded parts just made me fall in love with you. wub.gif

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:01 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 16 2013, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sawyer said Naruto didn't keed to hold Hinata's hand for such a long time. I'll give him that, but I honestly don't care because I am not worried about NS.

It's more like "Get ready, because the plan is about to start. Before I go RKM, I have to thank you and Neji. That beast...I will stop it!" *starts powering up* "Let's go, Hinata!" That's all.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:07 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 16 2013, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sawyer said Naruto didn't keed to hold Hinata's hand for such a long time. I'll give him that, but I honestly don't care because I am not worried about NS.

...But he didn't hold it for a long time. It seems that way because of the three week break we took after 615, but if you read 615 and then 616, he really doesn't hold her hand any longer than he needs to. In 615, he moves her hand off of his face, thanks her for the encouragement, charges up his power, and begins to transfer his chakra. In 616, he completes the chakra transfer in one panel ( http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/616/7 ) and then lets go of her hand to make clones (on the next page). He does what he needs to do and then moves on. It's not like she got any special kind of treatment. He was just following the plan.

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 16 2013, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The bolded parts just made me fall in love with you. wub.gif

Sorry, I'm taken. sweat.gif

But seriously, it's so true. I can't wrap my head around why he has so many NaruSaku fans subscribed to his channel. I was done with him after he uploaded "NaruSaku=Much Luv???" dry.gif

Edited by Slextrem, 16 January 2013 - 11:18 PM.


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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:15 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Jan 17 2013, 12:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...But he didn't hold it for a long time. It seems that way because of the three week break we took after 615, but if you read 615 and then 616, he really doesn't hold her hand any longer than he needs to. In 615, he moves her hand off of his face, charges up his power, and begins to transfer his chakra. In 616, he completes the chakra transfer in one panel (http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/616/7) and then lets go of her hand to make clones (on the next page: http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/616/8). He does what he needs to do and then moves on. It's not like she got any special kind of treatment. He was just following the plan.

Maybe you're right. x) emoticon_monocle.gif I thought he was right at first, because he held her hand at the end of 615, and is still holding her on the beginning of 616. It was probably only seconds in the manga, but three weeks for us. laugh.gif What was really unecessary of him was that he put "Naruto didn't need to hold Hinata's hand : D" in the description, and nothing more. The chapter was not about that..oh well, I still have his One Piece reviews. :3

Edited by sushi., 16 January 2013 - 11:16 PM.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:31 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Jan 16 2013, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry, I'm taken. sweat.gif

But seriously, it's so true. I can't wrap my head around why he has so many NaruSaku fans subscribed to his channel. I was done with him after he uploaded "NaruSaku=Much Luv???" dry.gif


Oh... oK. *cries in a corner sad.gif*

Don't even get me started on that video! His sarcasm, his insults, his condescending tone. Ugh...

Edited by luffyq1, 16 January 2013 - 11:51 PM.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:45 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 16 2013, 05:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh... oK. *cries in a corner sad.gif*

Don't even get me started on that video! His sarcasm, his insults, his condensing tone. Ugh...

Awe, don't cry. I'll love you like a friend. th_glomp.gif love.gif

The best part was when he told NaruSaku fans not to make a response. rolleyes.gif
Of course that was the first thing StriderCrestone, LordofIce72, and myself did when he uploaded it. If you're going to play the game, play fair.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:47 PM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 16 2013, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh... oK. *cries in a corner sad.gif*

Don't even get me started on that video! His sarcasm, his insults, his condensing tone. Ugh...

I find it funny that near the end he explains what are the 3 main themes of Naruto which coincidentally can be applied to NaruSaku

1) Never giving up (Naruto won't give up on winning Sakura over no matter how hard it seems)
2) The new generation surpasses the old one (JiraTsu, ObiRin, MinaKushi, they all got bad ends but NaruSaku will get the good end)
3) Naruto has the power to change people (throughout the series Naruto has caused Sakura to change her perspective of him which in turn has made her kinder)

Unrelated

Why are some people saying Naruto is not ready to be Hokage? I can't think as to why not expect that Tsunade still holds the title.

- It can't be about age since Gaara is the same age as him.
- It can't be about his high energy given that we have a certain Raikage who thinks it's better to punch through walls instead of opening doors. laugh.gif

I honestly think that Mabui (Raikage's secretary) spent her entire time either forcing the Raikage to the paperwork or maybe doing it herself. Speaking of which, wasn't Mabui at HQ, she wasn't shown when it was destroy so we only assume she was there. I guess she also died then. I would've thought Kishi could've at least shown one panel with her. Maybe when the scene is animated it will happen.

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Jan 16 2013, 08:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Awe, don't cry. I'll love you like a friend. th_glomp.gif love.gif

Just don't ever say that to Obito. tongue.gif

Edited by redragon88, 16 January 2013 - 11:49 PM.


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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:49 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Jan 16 2013, 08:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I find it funny that near the end he explains what are the 3 main themes of Naruto which coincidentally can be applied to NaruSaku

1) Never giving up (Naruto won't give up on winning Sakura over no matter how hard it seems)
2) The new generation surpasses the old one (JiraTsu, ObiRin, MinaKushi, they all got bad ends but NaruSaku will get the good end)
3) Naruto has the power to change people (throughout the series Naruto has caused Sakura to change her perspective of him which in turn has made her kinder)

Unrelated

Why are some people saying Naruto is not ready to be Hokage? I can't think as to why not expect that Tsunade still holds the title.

- It can't be about age since Gaara is the same age as him.
- It can't be about his high energy given that we have a certain Raikage who thinks it's better to punch through walls instead of opening doors. laugh.gif

I honestly think that Mabui (Raikage's secretary) spent her entire time either forcing the Raikage to the paperwork or maybe doing it herself. Speaking of which, wasn't Mabui at HQ, she wasn't shown when it was destroy so we only assume she was there. I guess she also died then. I would've thought Kishi could've at least shown one panel with her. Maybe when the scene is animated it will happen.


Naruto said so many times that he wont be hokage until he saves Sasuke, this is the reason why he wont be hokage after this arc.
Even if she dies or whatever happens he will reject the invite.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 16 January 2013 - 11:50 PM.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:54 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Jan 16 2013, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Naruto said so many times that he wont be hokage until he saves Sasuke, this is the reason why he wont be hokage after this arc.
Even if she dies or whatever happens he will reject the invite.

I'm not talking about whether he'll become Hokage now. I'm talking about whether he could become one right now.

What prevents him from being Hokage are two things:

1) Tsunade is the Hokage right now
2) He refuses to become one before Sasuke has been dealt with

Other than that I don't believe there's any other reason to say Naruto isn't ready to be Hokage. Arguments like age or his level of maturity just seem forced given the examples I previously mentioned with Gaara and A.

Edited by redragon88, 16 January 2013 - 11:54 PM.





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