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[FireFox]

What really gets me is....Sakura is damn useful. The majority of the alliance would be laying dead right now if it wasn't her remote healing via Katsuyu pancaking everywhere. And he's like:

 

"NAH SCREW THAT SWORD TIEM."

 

It's just....an illogical, bad move on his part. Sasuke is supposed to be some great strategist and that was a bad BAD move.

To Sasuke it doesn't matter as long as he gets his target as fast as possible he doesn't care by what means he does that he doesn't care about that he was even willing to let everybody in the alliance die but only take Naruto and Jugo he's in this war for his own selfish reasons he made that clear when he entered this war for him there is only achieving his goal and nothing else and he never considered Sakura as an great asset to him in this case she was just a tool to him  . 

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 17 May 2014 - 04:43 PM.

[narusaku256]

To Sasuke it doesn't matter as long as he gets his target as fast as possible he doesn't care by what means he does that he doesn't care about that he was even willing to let everybody in the alliance die but only take Naruto and Jugo he's in this war for his own selfish reasons he made that clear when he entered this war for him there is only achieving his goal and nothing else and he never considered Sakura as an great asset to him . 

Agree with you but what hits me is as you said Naruto does affect Sasuke to some aspect apart from Itachi and his clan. Sasuke knows this fact and yet he wants to kill him! I don't understand why he wants to kill the one who probably is the only one who possibly understands him. Do you have any clue on this?

[manbeast101]

No clue, but he is Sasuke, since when does he care about anything?

 

Also, I wonder if Sakura will meet Kushina, I mean she already met Minato, but I can imagine her meeting Kushina could be funny.

Like Kushina could say for her (Sakura) and Naruto to give her some grandchildren or something like that, because that sounds like something Kushina would say.

[FireFox]

Agree with you but what hits me is as you said Naruto does affect Sasuke to some aspect apart from Itachi and his clan. Sasuke knows this fact and yet he wants to kill him! I don't understand why he wants to kill the one who probably is the only one who possibly understands him. Do you have any clue on this?

He wants to kill him because  He is his rival in power and strength and is the person who affects him the most to Sasuke that is an obstacle to achieving his goal and also because Naruto represents the previous Hokages and is a part of that system which icludes the Bijuu's  that's my take .

[narusaku256]

@manbeast 101 this same idea, though not exactly the same as yours but in a similar patter, struck me too. It will seriously be a great thing if Kushina gets to meet Sakura and then Naruto behaves a bit idiotic and Sakura hits him asusual. It will be amazing to watch Kushina to see that her son indeed found a girl just like her . Sadly, I doubt whether this would really happen unless Minato has something presently which contains Kushina's DNA which will help Orochimaru resurrect Kushina. It will be a nice scene nevertheless

@Firefox Yes, maybe you are right on this part. I can take that Naruto is his rival in power and strength and all, because that really is a valid reason for Sasuke to kill Naruto. However I don't think he would just Kill Naruto for him being the guardian of all bijuus. But oh well, who knows, he is Sasuke! Anything and everything can happen to him at anytime XD

[FireFox]

@manbeast 101 this same idea, though not exactly the same as yours but in a similar patter, struck me too. It will seriously be a great thing if Kushina gets to meet Sakura and then Naruto behaves a bit idiotic and Sakura hits him asusual. It will be amazing to watch Kushina to see that her son indeed found a girl just like her . Sadly, I doubt whether this would really happen unless Minato has something presently which contains Kushina's DNA which will help Orochimaru resurrect Kushina. It will be a nice scene nevertheless

@Firefox Yes, maybe you are right on this part. I can take that Naruto is his rival in power and strength and all, because that really is a valid reason for Sasuke to kill Naruto. However I don't think he would just Kill Naruto for him being the guardian of all bijuus. But oh well, who knows, he is Sasuke! Anything and everything can happen to him at anytime XD

Well oddly enough Oro does seem to know about Kushina's abilities which he associated with Karin's so you never know i find it odd that Kishi didn't made two of the most powerful Kunoichi  appear as Edo's and they were both the Jinchuriki of the Kyuubi and Uzumakis  something tells me that its gonna happen but after the war . There was a time when i thought that Naruto is gonna be put in a battle against all of the Hokages  as a means that he has surpassed them in power/skill maybe this is the case with Sakura just imagine her fighting against Mitto and Kushina now that would be BADASS . Maybe all of this this can still happen but like i said after the war .

 

Well for Sasuke the Bijuu's are a part of the old system and Naruto is also a Jinchu and their guardian and he did wanted to BURN them but like you said he's Sasuke the little kitten doesn't have a clue what he really wants .  

[ramenanmitsu]

@ramen
This is the last chance for my prediction to happen, and I am okay if it doesn't happen.
The reason? I believe the one who will beat madara is naruto and the one who will finish him off is obito and sasuke become jealous like usual.
So this will play like naruto vs garra but this time it's sakura who protect naruto.

Well, I hope for you that your prediction comes true man
  

This my friend is a great post something I 100% agree with and like you is there one thing I hate doing is hand waiving some characters flaws but displying some heavy criticism on other characters. Hinata, Naruto, Sakura and Sasuke characters have some terrible flaws but some are praise while the others are heavily bashed and since I got punish for engaging with others on the hate on SS but love of SK,  I decided that the best thing for me to do is to be quiet but honestly I will never understand the logic behind loving something bad while hating something similarly bad. 

 
Me neither.

SasuKarin and SasuSaku are twin pairings. Nothing more, nothing less. If I hate one, I'll hate the other as well.

 

I have adressed it before too but i stopped because it always end up in a fight.As for asspulls i dont see it as negative because that's Kishimoto's drawing my only problem is that he dosnt make asspulls for Sakura too. 

I don't really see your posts often so can't really speak for you. My bad.

I can't consider asspulls as a positive thing because it goes against the theme of the manga for me.
 

 Always make me rage.

Me too. The "how SK is better than SS" arguments have always made me feel nauseated. It's okay to ship any pairing you want, but if you're going to bash a rival ship, make sure your ship doesn't have the same design.

[narusaku256]

Well oddly enough Oro does seem to know about Kushina's abilities which he associated with Karin's so you never know i find it odd that Kishi didn't made two of the most powerful Kunoichi  appear as Edo's and they were both the Jinchuriki of the Kyuubi and Uzumakis  something tells me that its gonna happen but after the war . There was a time when i thought that Naruto is gonna be put in a battle against all of the Hokages  as a means that he has surpassed them in power/skill maybe this is the case with Sakura just imagine her fighting against Mitto and Kushina now that would be BADASS . Maybe all of this this can still happen but like i said after the war .
 
Well for Sasuke the Bijuu's are a part of the old system and Naruto is also a Jinchu and their guardian and he did wanted to BURN them but like you said he's Sasuke the little kitten doesn't have a clue what he really wants .  

You are good at pointing out details man! If it is indeed the way you say, then we do have a chance that maybe Kushina and Mito will be resurrected. Yes, this thing is probably gonna happen after the war and maybe instead of Minato it will be Kurama this time, who maybe will handover Kushina's and Mito's chakra to Oro or Kabuto. Its not far fetched considering the fact that they both were his jinchuuriki and the fact that tailed beasts continuously absorb their jinchuuriki's chakra. So it might be that, Kurama will help too and probably he and Naruto are good friends now, so he won't mind helping him. Yes indeed, we do have a possibility of that happening. Although I feel, they won't battle with each other XD. Not for the fact of power but as far as Kushina's character goes, if she finds out something is brewing between Naruto and Sakura or she finds out that Sakura is Naruto's better half, she would team up with her and give her advices on how to control her knuckleheaded son . Their interactions will be cute, if they are meant to happen .

And yes, about Sasuke....maybe you are right! But I guess waiting is a better option since we have no clue as to what his goals are.

[luffyq1]

SasuKarin and SasuSaku are twin pairings. Nothing more, nothing less. If I hate one, I'll hate the other as well.
 

The "how SK is better than SS" arguments have always made me feel nauseated. It's okay to ship any pairing you want, but if you're going to bash a rival ship, make sure your ship doesn't have the same design.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I can't consider asspulls as a positive thing because it goes against the theme of the manga for me.

I'm indifferent when it comes to asspulls because people often criticize Sasuke for his asspulls but forget that everyone did it.
Itachi, Naruto, Kakashi(spamming his mangekyou when he could barely use two, low chakra was a hidrance to him and he's now pratically on Naruto's level), Madara, Obito, Hinata and etc...

Also i dont know what theme the manga has.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 17 May 2014 - 06:00 PM.

[FireFox]

You are good at pointing out details man! If it is indeed the way you say, then we do have a chance that maybe Kushina and Mito will be resurrected. Yes, this thing is probably gonna happen after the war and maybe instead of Minato it will be Kurama this time, who maybe will handover Kushina's and Mito's chakra to Oro or Kabuto. Its not far fetched considering the fact that they both were his jinchuuriki and the fact that tailed beasts continuously absorb their jinchuuriki's chakra. So it might be that, Kurama will help too and probably he and Naruto are good friends now, so he won't mind helping him. Yes indeed, we do have a possibility of that happening. Although I feel, they won't battle with each other XD. Not for the fact of power but as far as Kushina's character goes, if she finds out something is brewing between Naruto and Sakura or she finds out that Sakura is Naruto's better half, she would team up with her and give her advices on how to control her knuckleheaded son . Their interactions will be cute, if they are meant to happen .

And yes, about Sasuke....maybe you are right! But I guess waiting is a better option since we have no clue as to what his goals are.

No no no  Edo Tensei doesn't work like that you don't need the person's chakra  to resurrect him you need his DNA for that a simple drop of blood will do , and well if Oro already had the DNA of all of the Hokages then i'm pretty sure he already has the DNA of Kishina and Mitto . And hey it can be both ways them fighting against each other and talking to each other XD . And  I can't accept the fact that Naruto was able to see his father in person but his mother only as a spirit  nope that ain't happening lol XD .

[narusaku256]

No no no  Edo Tensei doesn't work like that you don't need the person's chakra  to resurrect him you need his DNA for that a simple drop of blood will do , and well if Oro already had the DNA of all of the Hokages then i'm pretty sure he already has the DNA of Kishina and Mitto . And hey it can be both ways them fighting against each other and talking to each other XD . And  I can't accept the fact that Naruto was able to see his father in person but his mother only as a spirit  nope that ain't happening lol XD .

What if....Oro was the one who transplanted Kushina's and Mito's DNA into Karin because we know he did those random experiments with DNA on people. And maybe due to this Karin got her healing from bite and Chakra Chains abilities. Also its not entirely impossible for Oro to not have Kushina's and Mito's DNA since they are stated to have special chakra and Oro had DNAs of everyone who were special/had special chakra. Seeing that Karin's chakra chains were not astonishing to Oro it can go the way like he used Kushina's and Mito's DNA and mixed it up with Karin since they are maybe compatible because all the three are Uzumakis. And maybe Sasuke knew this that's why he acknowledged Karin to be the strongest and was of interest to him? But anyways, if this is true then it all goes down to the fact that Oro does have Kushina's and Mito's DNA and if that's the case he might ressurect them both. Though I don't know for what reason he'll ressurect Mito but still its worth a shot. Yes, if Naruto has to meet his father in person then he has the right to meet his mother too XD, just like you said.

[ramenanmitsu]

I'm indifferent when it comes to asspulls because people often criticize Sasuke for his asspulls but forget that everyone did it.Itachi, Naruto, Kakashi(spamming his mangekyou when he could barely use two, low chakra was a hidrance to him and he's now pratically on Naruto's level), Madara, Obito, Hinata and etc...Also i dont even know what the theme is.

One of the main themes of NARUTO was hard work. It was emphasized again and again with Naruto's training, Rock Lee's appearance, Naruto's fight with Neji, Naruto's rivalry with Sasuke and so on.

However in part two, that theme seemed to have disappeared from the surface of the earth.....and all we see now is anything BUT hard work.

[LuckyChi7]

Made this vid, yesterday and thought I'd share it with you. Some points may have been brought up already, but I just discussing it.

 

 

[AzureWaters]

Translation of the page which caused so much drama this week:

 

 

サクラ「気にしないで…ナルと」

サクラ「(…サスケくんは…私の事…)」

 

Sakura: Don’t worry about me, Naruto

Sakura: (internally) Sasuke-kun…about me..

 

She trails off and it's left unsaid, but MS and MP are right in that she's asking if he cares about her. They left the "about me" out for some reason though. So it's basically, "Sasuke-kun, do you care about me", although the care part is implied rather than directly asked. The "koto" (事) also means that she isn't just implying her well being, but that she wants to know where she stands with him in general, since him not seeming to care for her injury makes her question what he thinks about her.

 

I'm glad Sakura's coming to the realization that Sasuke doesn't hold her in high esteem. I think this could lead to a final confirmation of what she means to Sasuke (nothing). Finally she might get the final push to move on from him.

 

 

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

One of the main themes of NARUTO was hard work. It was emphasized again and again with Naruto's training, Rock Lee's appearance, Naruto's fight with Neji, Naruto's rivalry with Sasuke and so on.

However in part two, that theme seemed to have disappeared from the surface of the earth.....and all we see now is anything BUT hard work.

It has 3 i guess.

First was hard work which you explained very well.
Second was "Friendship" i can hardly call what Naruto and Sasuke has a friendship because they dont have development on part 2, all i see is someome who wants to save someome who doesnt want to be saved.

And Third and most painfull.
"Redeemable villains"

Recently we see it with Obito, he did a lot of assholeish things because of Rin's death, he was cruel, used people killed characters on the story.
Now Kishimoto want us to feel sympathetic and sorry for Obito because it was all Madara's fault with his plan of capturing and killing Rin.
WTF.
 

I'm glad Sakura's coming to the realization that Sasuke doesn't hold her in high esteem. I think this could lead to a final confirmation of what she means to Sasuke (nothing). Finally she might get the final push to move on from him.
). Finally she might get the final push to move on from him.

She came to that conclusion because Sasuke didnt give her attention?

i cant believe this can someome confirm it?

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 17 May 2014 - 06:22 PM.

[FireFox]

What if....Oro was the one who transplanted Kushina's and Mito's DNA into Karin because we know he did those random experiments with DNA on people. And maybe due to this Karin got her healing from bite and Chakra Chains abilities. Also its not entirely impossible for Oro to not have Kushina's and Mito's DNA since they are stated to have special chakra and Oro had DNAs of everyone who were special/had special chakra. Seeing that Karin's chakra chains were not astonishing to Oro it can go the way like he used Kushina's and Mito's DNA and mixed it up with Karin since they are maybe compatible because all the three are Uzumakis. And maybe Sasuke knew this that's why he acknowledged Karin to be the strongest and was of interest to him? But anyways, if this is true then it all goes down to the fact that Oro does have Kushina's and Mito's DNA and if that's the case he might ressurect them both. Though I don't know for what reason he'll ressurect Mito but still its worth a shot. Yes, if Naruto has to meet his father in person then he has the right to meet his mother too XD, just like you said.

Well Sasuke for certain doesn't know that if that was the case because he didn't even knew that Karin was an Uzumaki he found out that from Kabuto in the Itachi Sasuke vs Kabuto battle so that rules out that possibility . But you never know with Oro he might just do that or as i like to think that Kushina is Karin's aunt i say both options  are possible . As for Mitto well she was an Uzumaki and one heck of a strong woman and we know so little about her all we know is that she had the Byakugou Seal on her forehead the same seal as Sakura and Tsunade , that she was the first Jinchuriki of the Kyuubi and had the same ability as Naruto to sense malevolence i personally want to see more of her and what she can do  . 

[TouKen4Life3g]

You know what they say: it's horrible to not care when you're already acknowledged. It's like in drama or any fictional stuff. Like you rather get a reaction (yay or boo) than knowing you're there, but no one cares. I forgot how its worded, but I remember hearing if I go to somewhere else, they won't notice me but at least they have a reason not to care about me. I'm not sure that's it goes but it's disheartening.

I do think I should share a post about what's going on.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 17 May 2014 - 06:24 PM.

[luffyq1]

Translation of the page which caused so much drama this week:

 

 

サクラ「気にしないで…ナルと」

サクラ「(…サスケくんは…私の事…)」

 

Sakura: Don’t worry about me, Naruto

Sakura: (internally) Sasuke-kun…about me..

 

She trails off and it's left unsaid, but MS and MP are right in that she's asking if he cares about her. They left the "about me" out for some reason though. So it's basically, "Sasuke-kun, do you care about me", although the care part is implied rather than directly asked. The "koto" (事) also means that she isn't just implying her well being, but that she wants to know where she stands with him in general, since him not seeming to care for her injury makes her question what he thinks about her.

 

Trans do seem to make sense considering that Naruto showed concern over Sakura getting stabbed, while Sasuke wasn't even phased by it.

[Hanabi]

I'm indifferent when it comes to asspulls because people often criticize Sasuke for his asspulls but forget that everyone did it.
Itachi, Naruto, Kakashi(spamming his mangekyou when he could barely use two, low chakra was a hidrance to him and he's now pratically on Naruto's level), Madara, Obito, Hinata and etc...

Also i dont know what theme the manga has.

maybe the main theme is rivalry.

 

indra-ashura (even though this came out of nowhere, their chakra ghosts have been fighting over generations)

hashirama-madara (given importance since valley of the end)

naruto-sasuke (don't even need to explain this)

Edited by Hanabi, 17 May 2014 - 06:41 PM.