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#841 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 01:45 PM

None of it makes sense to me. How come only the SS fans have the supposed "raws", and there hasn't been anything posted on the internet. I just want the real raw out and have thus be over because it has gotten very annoying to see how wrong their interpretations are.And it is very unheard of to have both MP and MS to be incorrect. I'm just gonna ignore any SS "raw" until the actual one comes out.

How should we feel if they are lying completely?

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 02:12 PM

He didn't worded it in an ambiguous way, it's the fans that make Kakashi's speech ambiguous.


Sort of I mean he was basically throwing words around like "still liking him but differently" which just establishes that she doesn't have a fan girl crush on him anymore the lack of raw, fake script and differently interpreted Chinese translations don't exactly help either

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 02:16 PM

I was afraid of saying anything before, because of the responses I got from the 674 thread. Very agressive and too many tempers running hot. However, if that translation is confirmed then it's going to be exactly like I predicted. Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are genuine now. She'll chose on an even ground between Sasuke and Naruto.



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Posted 10 May 2014 - 02:19 PM

How should we feel if they are lying completely?

 

 I will go full trolling mode on them besides its not  the first time they have pulled something like this remember altering : the DB . the interviews , that cover page  yeah that's SS for you  they have a law : anything that is against SS will be rendered useless and then altered so it can fit the awesomeness that is SS because SS can't have anything negative -_-  .   


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 02:25 PM

I was afraid of saying anything before, because of the responses I got from the 674 thread. Very agressive and too many tempers running hot. However, if that translation is confirmed then it's going to be exactly like I predicted. Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are genuine now. She'll chose on an even ground between Sasuke and Naruto.

???

Genuine as in genuine friendship you mean?
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Posted 10 May 2014 - 02:25 PM

So basically people aren't happy until they'll dissect Kishimoto's brain to see what he actually wanted to say in the latest chapter. And even if that happens, they still won't be happy because it contradicts their own personal interpretation. 


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 02:26 PM

I remember, the last time Kishi made Sakura's confession in an ambiguous way there was a huge uproar among the fandoms and now when he has clearly stated that she is over with Sasuke, there is still an uproar! Honestly, even if it was Sakura saying what Kakashi said, they would still say "Yes its true! Sakura no more likes Sasuke because now she loves Sasuke". How ridiculous can it get? At this rate I doubt if the raws will help either! They are gonna say NS fans have manipulated the raw! Good lord! When Sakura will confesses to Naruto, I don't know what the NH and SS fandoms are gonna say about her. I can't even imagine it. She's gonna get abused in every way and for what reason? She did not love Sasuke and she came in between Hinata and Naruto's love which didn't even exist in the first place! Sometimes I really really find myself lucky to get involved with NS.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 02:27 PM

He didn't worded it in an ambiguous way, it's the fans that make Kakashi's speech ambiguous. 

I agree with this. My first and last conclusion came to a normal wording. Should have just said "you still love the guy" in the beginning of the next panel. I'll explain later. I'm at work but man, this is too easy. Kind of wish I keep this part of job.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 02:28 PM

So basically people aren't happy until they'll dissect Kishimoto's brain to see what he actually wanted to say in the latest chapter. And even if that happens, they still won't be happy because it contradicts their own personal interpretation. 

That's what it's resorting to now...

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 02:29 PM

Problem is this entire thing could have been solved if Kakashi was just straightforward with his monologue "You don't love him anymore but he's still one of your closest friends who you can't let go" as oppose to "you still like him but its different now, you still have feelings for the one you liked" etc. it can be taken either or.

All he was really saying is that she's matured and aint a fangirl anymore which we already knew by part 2.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 02:40 PM

I was afraid of saying anything before, because of the responses I got from the 674 thread. Very agressive and too many tempers running hot. However, if that translation is confirmed then it's going to be exactly like I predicted. Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are genuine now. She'll chose on an even ground between Sasuke and Naruto.

I always supported the equal footing. Pro SS or anti SS, it's a win-win for me.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 02:42 PM

Once the raw is out and I confirm the NS victory, I'm going to call SS the SiblingS relationship.
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Posted 10 May 2014 - 02:44 PM

Once the raw is out and I confirm the NS victory, I'm going to call SS the SiblingS relationship.

They aren't even siblings! What kind of a brother tries to stab his sister, that too not one but two times!

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 02:47 PM

btw when does the viz scan is coming out ?


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 02:49 PM

This Monday.

Heck, that's how I would have classified SS. More so than NS. I mean maybe I would have but they got too intimate now. Naruto can't stop loving her and Sakura feels pain when he's in one.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 02:51 PM

They aren't even siblings! What kind of a brother tries to stab his sister, that too not one but two times!

Naruto considers Sasuke as a sibling though. If Sakura is together with Naruto on the journey to save Sasuke, she might as well think of him like a brother too (since Naruto and Sakura are basically the same).

Anyways, this is my payback for all the stupid "NS is a sibling" arguments I had to hear from SS fans. If Sakura basically shares the same feelings with Naruto in regards to Sasuke,

WHO ARE THE SIBLINGS NOW? (Troll face) *sticks the middle finger*

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 02:52 PM

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 02:52 PM

Naruto considers Sasuke as a sibling though. If Sakura is together with Naruto on the journey to save Sasuke, she might as well think of him like a brother too (since Naruto and Sakura are basically the same).

Anyways, this is my payback for all the stupid "NS is a sibling" arguments I had to hear. If Sakura basically shares the same feelings with Naruto in regards to Sasuke, WHO IS THE SIBLINGS NOW? (Troll face

Honestly, that has more grounds than NS. I already wrote why so you get the picture.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 02:58 PM

Naruto considers Sasuke as a sibling though. If Sakura is together with Naruto on the journey to save Sasuke, she might as well think of him like a brother too (since Naruto and Sakura are basically the same).

Anyways, this is my payback for all the stupid "NS is a sibling" arguments I had to hear. If Sakura basically shares the same feelings with Naruto in regards to Sasuke, WHO IS THE SIBLINGS NOW? (Troll face

With this logic, yeah! But I still find it antagonistic. I mean brothers don't go anhilating their sisters! And again its weird since, Sakura sometime did love Sasuke XD

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 03:04 PM

Man, the hypocrisy has become thick in entire Naruto fandom.

Okay, for a long time people have been trying to cram down my throat that Sakura has always genuinely loved Sasuke since the beginning. "She has always loved Sasuke romantically and she she wants him back." The NS fans believed her love was only a shallow crush at best and there was no basis for it. She had feelings for him, but it wasn't that strong because she didn't know him. For a long time, as long as I can remember reading this manga, people keep telling me that since part 1 Sakura's love for Sasuke was genuine and pure and strong.

 

Now when this chapter comes out and Kakashi questions Sakura's love for Sasuke and comment how it changed, all of a sudden everyone is saying "Well, in Part 1 it was only a crush and it wasn't that strong, but now Kakashi says it is "genuine and she now truly in love with him." Am I the only one that sees a problem with this logic? Right when they are proven wrong about Sakura's feelings, they flip their whole story and say that they are just stronger now because they never were that strong to begin with?

I am just...flabbergasted. People want to argue ambiguity saying that well "If Kakashi meant she was not in love with Sasuke, he could have just said that straight forward." I'd argue he could have said it the other way too. Why not just have Kakashi say "Well, you were only a kid having a crush back then, but now you are a woman with true love in your heart for him."

What kind of love did Sakura have for Sasuke in the beginning because now all of a sudden everyone is changing their minds about it. Even the NS here are saying now that it was only a child crush that got stronger.

As for the "kind girl" comment, I do not read it as "Oh you are still in love with him after all the stuff he had done....that's a kind girl." I read it instead as: "You are still willing to forgive and try and save him despite what he tried to do to you. You are kind that way." This going off the basis that even Kakashi tried to kill Sasuke and Obito for all they have done, but everyone else was forgiving.


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