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[Chatte]

hmm I doubt

I think this it's more like a way to "organize" them there ..

look --Click here to view--

Naruto Is the first, Sakura is the second right after him and Sasuke is on the background.

Hmm, interesting way to view it.
Asked because I already saw SS shippers starting going crazy with this pic, lol.

[Namaenash]

Skipping things, given the last chapter and how Sakura is standing with her back on Sasuke and all determined, don't you think it means something? Like, she's going to be done with him and fight him, something like that?

It could be just rearranging the position. I personally think that it is more into Naruto and Sakura fighting/moving with the common goal or on the same path --hence their body is drawn facing the same direction. While Sasuke is moving with a different goal or on a different path than Naruto/Sakura.

http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/616/5

You can easily compare how Kishi normally draw characters with opposing path / goals. More often than not, especially for covers, typically he draws the the villain looking through his shoulder, or in the opposing direction as the heroes. Of course it'll depends on the context of that chapter.

Some of the examples are:
http://naruto.wikia....me_56_Cover.jpg
http://images.saiyan....php?photo=9847

etc. It's quite common to draw the villain and position them in the background opposing the main characters. Kishi, like other mangakas do this often. It emphasizes their different goals in the story.

[dragonflyx11]

Well. Let's see. I ship most of my ships because there is something in them that I find interesting, and mostly I'm interested in things that are sort of dark and angsty. So my pairings are not always the most healthy or happy ones.

SS certainly has all that: it is pretty dark and messed-up ship with plenty of angst. I also tend to like characters that are very flawed, and Sasuke is totally like that and even Sakura has many flaws, though not as bad ones as Sasuke. I find the two of them very interesting as characters and the idea of them together is also compelling. What I also like about SS is that, even though it has so much darkness in it, it also has some sweet and genuinely good moments, for example even though in part I Sasuke sometimes treated Sakura coldly, he still considered her an important friend and was willing to die for her. Even in part two, Sasuke still occasionally thinks about Sakura and team 7, like he genuinely misses them. That combination of dark and light, cruel and sweet, is really fascinating for me. I also like the themes of redemption and making amends. If Sasuke can change and become a good person, then SS has a real chance to develop into a really good and happy bond. So SS basically has two flawed inviduals in a dark relationship, which still has a genuine chance to become a good and happy union. So a dark journey, but with (potential) happy ending. I really like all of these elements, especially together in the same storyline.

I think that Kishi hasn't really explored SS that much. It is a ship with very much potential, but Kishi hasn't really gone into that so much, not the way he has explored the NaruSasu bond. Just imagine how amazing* it would have been if Sakura had been playing the role Naruto has been playing (or if Kishi had just made Naruto gay). We could have seen a love story on a whole other level than we have seen so far. I don't really read that much fanfiction, but someday I may look for some long SS fanfic just to see that potential between them explored. I don't really care if my ship is or if it will be canon. It would be nice if SS will be canon, but even if it doesn't happen, I'd still ship it.

So there. It is kind of hard to list exactly every reason why I like SS, but hope this post gives at least some idea. I also have no idea if other SS shippers ship this for the same reasons. I might be some kind of exception, some lone SS weirdo.

(*Well, for me anyway. Maybe not for you since you ship some other couple. )

Edit. I also ship NaruSasu, mostly for the same reasons I ship SS: the darkness of it all, yet many sweet moments. In NaruSasu I also really like how deep their bond is.

it is interesting to see your views and its also nice to have someone with other views here that doesnt automatically go. NS sucks SS FTW lol

SS may of been an interesting couple to explore if naruto was a more romance focused manga, and not an action manga with very vague hints of romance in the backround.

[Chatte]

It could be just rearranging the position. I personally think that it is more into Naruto and Sakura fighting/moving with the common goal or on the same path --hence their body is drawn facing the same direction. While Sasuke is moving with a different goal or on a different path than Naruto/Sakura.

http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/616/5

You can easily compare how Kishi normally draw characters with opposing path / goals. More often than not, especially for covers, typically he draws the the villain looking through his shoulder, or in the opposing direction as the heroes. Of course it'll depends on the context of that chapter.

Some of the examples are:
http://naruto.wikia....me_56_Cover.jpg
http://images.saiyan....php?photo=9847

etc. It's quite common to draw the villain and position them in the background opposing the main characters. Kishi, like other mangakas do this often. It emphasizes their different goals in the story.

Oh, I see.
Thanks for the clearing.

[T XD]

Hmm, interesting way to view it.
Asked because I already saw SS shippers starting going crazy with this pic, lol.

What SS has anything to do in this pic ? 0_o

[Chatte]

What SS has anything to do in this pic ? 0_o

Well, Sakura and Sasuke are closer in the picture and stuff, you know?

This reminds me of Tales of Gallant Jiraiya drawings, to be honest...the drawing, I mean.

Edited by Chatte, 16 January 2013 - 02:53 PM.

[lord287]

Well guys I think we are in definite denial if we think NS even has a 50% chance of happening. If kishi wanted NS to not fall off the pairing he would definitely had given some kind of interaction or atleast transfer of kyubi power to sakura but no their was no such moment. I think it is over for us guys. Going by the rule kishi used to give some kind of NS moment soon enough whenever NH had a moment but it has been so much time since we have got any NS moment but we have got acknowledgement from Naruto towards hinata in chapter 559(don't remember the chapter exactly) and then chapter 573 hinata's hand holding statement then now hinata got to hold Naruto's hand by Naruto's own will. And simultaneously we got NS backdrops i.e Sakura Fake confession(it was totally fake to me), chapter 540 when sakura has the image of sasuke in her thoughts(again I know u guys think differently but seeing the recent chapters and remembering my first thought on that chapter, I believe sakura stilll love sasuke), chapter 573 sakura properly said it not only us but everyone will be together. I haven't seen a tre NS moment as far as i remember after the NS hug in pein arc.

So it turns out that we were the guys who were been given NS fan service all these years and the pairing which hardly had any development was the true pairing in kishi's mind. But definitely I still have hopes for NS till the very end. Kishi hadn't done anything sensible at all by giving such prominent hints for NH recently and it will be a huge sad feeling for me if this pairing indeed comes out to be true in the end!

[dragonflyx11]

Well guys I think we are in definite denial if we think NS even has a 50% chance of happening. If kishi wanted NS to not fall off the pairing he would definitely had given some kind of interaction or atleast transfer of kyubi power to sakura but no their was no such moment. I think it is over for us guys. Going by the rule kishi used to give some kind of NS moment soon enough whenever NH had a moment but it has been so much time since we have got any NS moment but we have got acknowledgement from Naruto towards hinata in chapter 559(don't remember the chapter exactly) and then chapter 573 hinata's hand holding statement then now hinata got to hold Naruto's hand by Naruto's own will. And simultaneously we got NS backdrops i.e Sakura Fake confession(it was totally fake to me), chapter 540 when sakura has the image of sasuke in her thoughts(again I know u guys think differently but seeing the recent chapters and remembering my first thought on that chapter, I believe sakura stilll love sasuke), chapter 573 sakura properly said it not only us but everyone will be together. I haven't seen a tre NS moment as far as i remember after the NS hug in pein arc.

So it turns out that we were the guys who were been given NS fan service all these years and the pairing which hardly had any development was the true pairing in kishi's mind. But definitely I still have hopes for NS till the very end. Kishi hadn't done anything sensible at all by giving such prominent hints for NH recently and it will be a huge sad feeling for me if this pairing indeed comes out to be true in the end!

he did not show her for a specific reason, he is saving something big for her i mean look at the cover art. this chapter should of erased your worries not increased them. i mean it showed that all the naruhina interaction last ch was a big troll. it was just to transfer chakra an for hinatas development. if you wanna abandon ship that is your right but i think your jumping the gun here

[Zatheko]

Well guys I think we are in definite denial if we think NS even has a 50% chance of happening. If kishi wanted NS to not fall off the pairing he would definitely had given some kind of interaction or atleast transfer of kyubi power to sakura but no their was no such moment. I think it is over for us guys. Going by the rule kishi used to give some kind of NS moment soon enough whenever NH had a moment but it has been so much time since we have got any NS moment but we have got acknowledgement from Naruto towards hinata in chapter 559(don't remember the chapter exactly) and then chapter 573 hinata's hand holding statement then now hinata got to hold Naruto's hand by Naruto's own will. And simultaneously we got NS backdrops i.e Sakura Fake confession(it was totally fake to me), chapter 540 when sakura has the image of sasuke in her thoughts(again I know u guys think differently but seeing the recent chapters and remembering my first thought on that chapter, I believe sakura stilll love sasuke), chapter 573 sakura properly said it not only us but everyone will be together. I haven't seen a tre NS moment as far as i remember after the NS hug in pein arc.

So it turns out that we were the guys who were been given NS fan service all these years and the pairing which hardly had any development was the true pairing in kishi's mind. But definitely I still have hopes for NS till the very end. Kishi hadn't done anything sensible at all by giving such prominent hints for NH recently and it will be a huge sad feeling for me if this pairing indeed comes out to be true in the end!

IMO now that hinata is out of the way with her development, I can see NS happening even more so then before, if anything I'm gonna continue to believe NS, naruto hasn't shown ANY romantic feelings towards hinata, and if her helping to pop him out of his dark state didn't get a feel out of him, than im convinced nothing will. I'm completely convinced hinata is nothing more than a friend in narutos eyes.

And haven't you ever heard save the best for last? This happened in the pain arc and many arcs before, Hinata getting a moment with naruto then BAM sakura getting an even bigger moment with naruto a few chapters later.

Edited by zatheko, 16 January 2013 - 03:08 PM.

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

I have to agree with you on that , I'm a formerly SS fan and I liked them for that same reason and I stopped to ship them for the same reason that you commented, Kishi just don't explored them as a couple (and tbht the lack of feelings for Sasuke's side also bothered me). They had so much potential but Kishi stopped developing them when Sasuke left the village. If Sakura had been playing the role Naruto has been playing, it would be another story, I'd probably still ship SS (or both SS and NS idk)

It doesn't really bother me that SS is not explored that much. I mean that I never expected Kishi to deal with it like he has been dealing with NaruSasu bond. It would have been nice if he had explored it more, but it's not something that bothers me. I like all the SS moments of the manga that we have gotten so far and am looking forward to their eventual meeting (even if that meeting just destroys SS ). I can settle for what little I get.

he did not show her for a specific reason, he is saving something big for her i mean look at the cover art. this chapter should of erased your worries not increased them. i mean it showed that all the naruhina interaction last ch was a big troll. it was just to transfer chakra an for hinatas development. if you wanna abandon ship that is your right but i think your jumping the gun here

I don't know about that. The hand holding was longer and more intimate with between Hinata and Naruto, not just some hand slapping another for a second then moving on. NH hand holding was given much more emphasis and their moment also included Hinata encouraging Naruto and inspiring him back to strength, not just a brief chakra transfer. And they are still near each other, fighting next to one another. As far as I see, NH has nothing to worry about. NS still has a good chance, it is not like this chapter sunk NS or anything. So you guys still have some hope. But so does NH.

Edited by Poison_In_Your_Coffee, 16 January 2013 - 03:33 PM.

[dragonflyx11]

It doesn't really bother me that SS is not explored that much. I mean that I never expected Kishi to deal with it like he has been dealing with NaruSasu bond. It would have been nice if he had explored it more, but it's not something that bothers me. I like all the SS moments of the manga that we have gotten so far and am looking forward to their eventual meeting (even if that meeting just destroys SS ). I can settle for what little I get.


I don't know about tha 615 . The hand holding was longer and more intimate with between Hinata and Naruto, not just some hand slapping another for a second then moving on. NH hand holding was given much more emphasis and their moment also included Hinata encouraging Naruto and inspiring him back to strength, not just a brief chakra transfer. And they are still near each other, fighting next to one another. As far as I see, NH has nothing to worry about. NS still has a good chance, it is not like this chapter sunk NS or anything. So you guys still have some hope. But so does NH.

maybe, but i think its cause it took him longer with hinata cause he did not have the chakra built up, even said so himself that he was getting the hang of it. i dont see the hand holding as intimate at all, he never once looked in her eyes as he did this or commented on it at all, he gave her the chakra an moved on. i still see it as just hinata development. so lets just agree to disagree an see in the future which one of us is wrong

[Zatheko]

maybe, but i think its cause it took him longer with hinata cause he did not have the chakra built up, even said so himself that he was getting the hang of it. i dont see the hand holding as intimate at all, he never once looked in her eyes as he did this or commented on it at all, he gave her the chakra an moved on. i still see it as just hinata development. so lets just agree to disagree an see in the future which one of us is wrong

Same here, it was his first attempt at it and that's why it took longer, IMO.

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

maybe, but i think its cause it took him longer with hinata cause he did not have the chakra built up, even said so himself that he was getting the hang of it. i dont see the hand holding as intimate at all, he never once looked in her eyes as he did this or commented on it at all, he gave her the chakra an moved on. i still see it as just hinata development. so lets just agree to disagree an see in the future which one of us is wrong

Sure thing. I'm sure we will eventually find out if it was romantic or not.

[Atheck]

There are subtle clues that others have brought up which I think should be factored in. Characters blushing or stuttering, their choice of words, or their personality in general. There were a few noticeable qualities about Naruto in #615 such as the lack of blushing, the reciprocation of intimate facial expressions, and of course the lack of romantic words. There weren't any of the commonplace attributes. Of course everything is open to interpretation but one thing that I can deduce is an inconsistent display of emotions when in comparison to the enamored expressions Naruto gave like when Sakura offered to feed him. But then any divergent parties will argue that since these events occurred on a battlefield that the inclusion of blushing, stuttering, or anything commonly associated with infatuation would be out of place. In which case I would that yes, this is true but simultaneously I haven't seen the level of intimacy or closeness from Naruto to Hinata that he shared with Sakura on or off the battlefield. 615 was the closest to that but IMO I don't think it quite matches up to the various scenes of when Naruto and Sakura were together.

Anyway, that's all I wanted to say for now.

Edited by Atheck, 16 January 2013 - 04:54 PM.

[merryGOflava]

i think we should be moving our attention to sasusaku as a threat now

well not really a threat.......

if there's no more naruhina(dont wanna jinx it) than all we have to worry about is sasusaku...

but since sasuke doesn't like any girl (never has)

then maybe it's "does sakura still like sasuke" we should be worrying about instead? :3

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

i think we should be moving our attention to sasusaku as a threat now

well not really a threat.......

if there's no more naruhina(dont wanna jinx it) than all we have to worry about is sasusaku...

but since sasuke doesn't like any girl (never has)

then maybe it's "does sakura still like sasuke" we should be worrying about instead? :3

I would say that SasuIno is more of a threat to sasusaku, and Sakura had bad thoughts about her love for Sasuke, while with Ino was the inverse, she smiled when she remebered of sasuke as a "sincere love".
sasuke never give any hint of love towards Sakura and if he had something about her deep on his heart he would not be able to kill her like he did, sakura could not kill him because she loves him but Sasuke can kill her because he feels nothing for her.

My thoughts is of Sasuke ending up with no one, or dying after being saved after all naruto give the hint that he would not stop living if he save Sasuke but he dies.

[Haaky]

When Naruto and Sasuke starts humping each other in a fight, if Sakura jumps in again, this time she won't survive xD

[Chatte]

When Naruto and Sasuke starts humping each other in a fight, if Sakura jumps in again, this time she won't survive xD

I doubt that.
If she's foreshadowed as Tsunade with the "I'll never die in battle" I think she won't die.
It all depends on Tsunade situation, though, lol.

[Haaky]

I doubt that.
If she's foreshadowed as Tsunade with the "I'll never die in battle" I think she won't die.
It all depends on Tsunade situation, though, lol.

I think Tsunade will die making place for Naruto as the new Hokage.

[Zatheko]

I think Tsunade will die making place for Naruto as the new Hokage.

Idk, IMO naruto is still to young to take the role of hokage (16 right?) sure he has matured but I'm not sure hes really ready for the role just yet even as much as I want him to be the next hokage